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COMMITTEE OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS debate -
Thursday, 21 Nov 2002

Vol. 1 No. 1

Working Group on Court Funds Report.

Mr. Purcell

The committee last considered the management and accountability of court funds at its meeting of 29 March 2001. Court funds are funds lodged in court pursuant to court orders or in compliance with legislative requirements. There are over 30,000 individual accounts with an estimated value of €700 million to €800 million, the bulk of which is represented by funds administered on behalf of wards of courts and minors. The committee's concern centred around the lacuna in the accounting and auditing arrangements which could result in the Exchequer having to meet the financial consequences of failings in individual cases.

At the time annual accounts had not been prepared for many years and there was no audit of the funds. The upshot of the committee's meeting was a request to establish a working group to examine the issue and report back within a specified period. In view of time constraints, I will not go through the group's terms of reference, but it submitted a report to the committee in July 2001 which set out the matter quite well and recorded the progress made in modernising the management of the funds by the Courts Service since its establishment in 1999. New investment arrangements, computerisation and improved accounting and auditing systems have been introduced.

The working group was unable to conclude at the time whether the Comptroller and Auditor General should be given a statutory power to audit court funds and, by extension, whether this committee should exercise an oversight role in relation to the funds pending the receipt of advice from the Attorney General. This advice was provided in December 2001 and formed the basis of a supplementary report by the group to the committee in early January this year. In summary, the Attorney General advised that, while it was a policy choice for the Department to decide who should audit court funds, he was of the view that the Comptroller and Auditor General was not somehow disqualified from discharging this function.

The other piece of relevant correspondence for the committee to consider is a letter dated 16 April 2002 from the chief executive of the Courts Service to the committee in which he outlined the progress made on the programme of reform and modernisation arrangements for the management and investment of court funds. Much has been achieved. I would like to think that my involvement and that of the committee has helped to give an impetus to action already instigated by the Courts Service when it took over responsibility for this area. Without wishing to overstate the position, it was very much in Dickensian times. Significant progress has been made.

I will make a very brief comment because the Comptroller and Auditor General has addressed nearly everything. To bring the committee right up to date, this was a major task among many that the new Courts Service had to address. As the Comptroller and Auditor General stated, about €700 million is held in trust by the courts, mainly on behalf of wards of court and minors who have had awards granted to them on foot of road traffic accidents or whatever.

Essentially, a number of things happened. Our director of finance, a professional accountant, is now also the accountant of the courts of justice. This was a recommendation the National Treasury Management Agency made when we asked it to review this whole area immediately following our establishment.

We will have a computer system. All of the funds will be computerised at the beginning of next year. As the Comptroller and Auditor General said, there is a huge a number of accounts, all of which are handled manually at present. External auditors have been appointed pending a decision on the role of the Comptroller and Auditor General. Annual financial statements were prepared for 2000 and 2001. The 2001 accounts were externally audited by PricewaterhouseCoopers, which was engaged following a tender exercise. The only minor qualification——

I apologise for interrupting, but we will have a vote shortly. We fully appreciate that significant progress has been made. The Comptroller and Auditor General has provided clarification about the very significant sum of up to €800 million. It is reassuring to note the progress made to date. It is also reassuring that the accounts are being audited by an outside auditor. The advice of the Office of the Attorney General has been unambiguous in stating the Comptroller and Auditor General is not disqualified from conducting an audit of the funds. This is a matter of policy which must be decided by the authorities. Having initiated the review process, the Committee of Public Accounts wishes to be kept informed of the decisions taken in this matter and intends to return to the issue in some detail in the future.

The witnesses withdrew.

The Committee adjourned at 1.35 p.m. sine die.
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