PRIVATE DEPUTIES' BUSINESS. - THE FLAX-GROWING INDUSTRY—MOTION BY DEPUTY O'DONOVAN.

I move the motion standing in my name:—

That the Dáil is of opinion that a conference representative of the flax growers, flax spinners and scutch mill-owners in Saorstát Eireann should be convened as early as practicable for the purpose of suggesting what action, if any, should be taken to ensure the stabilisation and development of the flax industry.

I ask the leave of the House to amend the motion by inserting after the word "convened" the words "by the Minister for Lands and Agriculture." Some Deputies may think that this is not a matter of much importance, but that it is of importance is shown, I think, by the fact that last season out of the 26 counties in the Free State flax was grown in 13 counties, and in 17 counties in 1925. It was grown in 20 counties in the year 1920. That flax was grown in 13 counties in the Free State last season shows that the industry is one of some importance, and I hope the House will give this motion favourable consideration. The conditions in Ireland greatly favour the production of flax. It is only in moist and humid climates that flax can be grown successfully, and in a way to produce a strong fibre. Hence it is that we have only a few countries in the world that can compete with us in the matter of flax-growing. Ireland has always been prominent in the growing of flax, and in doing so successfully. Therefore, I think we should not let the industry die out. We do a lot in trying to promote and propagate some crops which other countries in the world can produce better than we can. Another aspect of the question to be considered is that in the counties which grow flax we have the machinery and mills and the trained hands.

The mills that we have are as up-to-date as any that are to be found in any of the flax-growing countries in the world. We have the trained hands, able to take part in the handling and management of the crop in any quantity. Should the industry be allowed to die out, the result will be that these trained hands will have to go elsewhere.

I might mention that an acre of flax grown in the Free State gives employment to four hands all the year round, that is, from the growing of the crop on the farm until the linen leaves the weaving mill. Therefore, if you grow 4,000 acres of flax you can give employment to 16,000 hands. I am not going to put suggestions before the Minister as to what the result of the conference should be. I hope he will agree to call the conference together. If a conference representative of all parties really interested in the industry is called together, it will, I am sure, be able to hammer out a scheme that may be of the greatest benefit to this industry and to the country generally. Last season there were practically 7,000 acres under flax in the Free State. Putting the yield at an average of 30 stone to the acre, which is not an extraordinary yield—that would be much below the average in a good many counties—and taking the price that we got for it this year, the crop was value for £120,000. That, taken with the amount of employment that was given in the production of the crop in the Free State, is a very important matter. I might point out in that connection that, while the prices for all other classes of farm produce dropped last year, the price of flax soared.

During the past four years I have been asked repeatedly by those interested in flax production in the different counties in the Saorstát to bring forward a motion of this kind, but I did not feel in a position to do so during the period of depression that has continued since 1920. Now that we see that the tide has turned and that there is a possibility that the flax and linen industries are about to take their rightful place amongst the industries of the country, a place which they held for centuries, I think it is only right that this conference should be called together to suggest ways and means for promoting their welfare. During the past season the growing of flax was as profitable and economic a project to tackle as in the boom years from the end of 1917 to 1920. In 1919, we were getting from 35/- to 45/- a stone for flax. Every stone of flax that year cost about 32/- to produce. This season we got on an average 11/- a stone, and every stone of flax was produced at 4/-. Consequently it was as economical a proposition to grow flax this season, when there was a profit of from 6/- to 7/- a stone on it, as it was in the boom years.

According to figures supplied to me by the Department of Agriculture, the acreage under flax in 1920 was very high. It was about 34,000 acres. In 1926, the acreage was practically 7,000 acres. Speaking for my own county— the County Cork, where not only ourselves but our fathers before us were cradled in flax—we suffered very much more than any other of the flax-growing counties, for reasons which I am not going to mention now. As I stated before, it cost us 32/- a stone to produce flax in the boom years, in the year 1919-20, but for reasons that I need not go into we were unable to sell the flax until late in the year 1922 or early in 1923. In the year 1919-20 we could have got an average price of 30/- per stone for it—the price on the Belfast market at the time was from 30/- to 35/—but we had to hold it over for two years, and then all we could get for it was from 8/- to 10/- per stone. The result was that the acreage under flax dropped in my part of the county.

Another reason for the drop in that year was the closing down of the spinning-mill in Cork. The City of Cork can lay claim to having erected the first mill in which flax was spun by machinery in Ireland. It was erected over 150 years ago. The present structure was built and fully equipped in 1854, and normally employed 900 hands. In pre-war days it had a turnover of £125,000 a year, while during the boom years the turnover reached practically £350,000. The value put on a spinning-mill may be gauged from the fact that if you were to put up an up-to-date one now like that, the cost would be at least a quarter of a million. The machinery in the Cork mill is as up-to-date as any to be found in any of the mills in the North or in any other place where they have spinning-mills. The skilled hands are still in Cork City to handle the flax, just as they are in the country. As regards the conference that was held by the Department of Agriculture twenty-five or thirty years ago with regard to the revival of the flax industry, what was wrong with it was, I believe, that the spinners, those at the finishing end of the business, were not brought in touch with those at the other end of it.

There was no cohesion between them. This motion is intended to get that cohesion. Although this factory is not working, the representatives of it are still there to attend the conference and give us the benefit of their advice, and, I believe, some good would result.

I have before me the profit and loss accounts of the factory from 1899 up to 1923, when the factory ceased to work. During that time there were only four years in which there was a loss. These years included 1920, 1921, 1922, and 1923, when everybody suffered losses. The losses were small compared with the losses that some of us suffered at that time. From 1899 to 1920 a profit was shown, and a dividend and bonus paid each year, except in 1901. I appeal to the Minister to bring this conference into being, so that we may be able to place this industry on a solid foundation. As a result of the war, the factory lost its market abroad, owing to Government control. They had formerly Continental and American markets, although the bulk was sold in Belfast. When the depression came, they were not able to recover their foreign markets. Our Government has trade emissaries on the Continent and in America, which is the principal market for Irish linen. Irish linen holds the premier place in the world—there is no other linen like it. If our trade emissaries were able to provide markets for our linen it would be of great benefit to the country. The factory used to work about 780 tons of flax per year. If the factory were working it would mean a second market for the flax-growing farmers. To-day the one and only market they have is Belfast. If this factory were working it would supply an alternative market for practically half the flax produced this year in the southern portion of the Free State.

I again appeal to the Minister to call this conference together. If he does so, I am confident it will have good results. It would not be establishing a precedent. We had a Flax Advisory Committee under the old regime. When you are dealing with a highly technical matter such as this, the advice of those who are engaged in the industry would be very valuable. I hope that the Minister will give favourable consideration to my motion, and see that the conference is called at the earliest possible moment, in order to try and revive one of our oldest industries.

I second the motion. Deputy O'Donovan knows this industry from A to Z. I confess that twelve months ago I was not very optimistic as to the future of flax-growing in this country. It is generally recognised that the desperate competition of artificial silk has done irreparable damage to the linen industry. Twelve months ago I do not think that even the most optimistic were hopeful of an early revival of the linen industry. But I have during the last couple of weeks, in my own county, come across farmers who grew flax last season, and who are as well satisfied with the price they obtained for it as the price they obtained for any other product of their farms. Undoubtedly the industry is native to the country. The soil is suitable for growing flax, and the farm labourers and factory workers have the technical skill required.

From the point of view of industrial revival it would seem that a far better case can be made for the making of an effort to restore this industry than can possibly be made for the building up of new industries for which we have not the skilled hands and the technical knowledge required. The contention of those engaged in this industry is that it is capable of standing on its own without any financial assistance from the State. So many committees and commissions have been set up by this Government that quite a good case has been made by the Deputy. Whatever point of view the Minister may have, I think it would be a good policy to get the people interested in this industry together, so that they can review the position and see if they cannot hammer out a scheme for its revival.

I should like to say a few words in favour of the desirability of reviving the flax industry in this country. As a representative of a county that in the past has been the greatest flax-growing county in Ireland, I can speak with a considerable amount of experience on the matter. Although there are adverse circumstances in regard to the marketing of linen, on the whole I think there is a great possibility of an intelligent effort being able to restore this industry. What has caused the falling off in the cultivation of flax in the first instance has been the quality of the seeds supplied in the past eight or nine years. A defective quality of seed has been supplied. Whether that was done deliberately or not, or what was the cause of it, I cannot say. In 1921, 1920, 1919, and even earlier, a statute acre was able to produce 48 stones of flax. In one or two years that quantity fell suddenly to less than a half. It could not have arisen from any other circumstances than that there was something wrong with the seed, because the land was as capable as it was in previous years of producing the same quantity and the same quality of fibre. Not alone did the yield fall off to the extent of one-half, but the fibre was also said to be defective in quality.

The Minister for Agriculture for Northern Ireland the other day said that he proposed to have an inquiry into the question of the supplying of seeds, as the quality was defective and the supply had fallen off. The farmer who used to grow flax and make it one of the most profitable of his crops finds it now altogether unprofitable. It is important that that phase of the question should be inquired into. If those who inquire into it are able to solve the problem of getting the seed back to its former standard, the crop should be a very valuable one for the tillage farmers, because flax is very valuable in tillage rotation. There are special processes through which the soil has to go for the reception of this crop which, combined with the intensive cultivation it requires, make it immensely valuable for tillage. It also has the merit of removing weeds from the soil.

With all these advantages to tillage, I think that Government agencies would be very well employed if they directed their energies to the revival of this industry. Notwithstanding the adverse markets for linen. I believe that there is a future for the cultivation of flax in rotation, and the additional employment which it will give will be a very valuable item in itself. At present there is very little employment for agricultural labourers, and flax growing would give a large amount of employment. In fact, it is the crop above all others that gives most employment. In addition, it is a crop that is at all times in demand to a certain extent. No doubt there have been agencies in the Flax Spinners' Association in Belfast that have very rigidly controlled prices. I cannot see why any body like that should be allowed to control prices to such an extent that flax growing would be uneconomic in our area. We should have some means of putting ourselves in a better way than we are in relation to the marketing of this crop. Co-operation, of course, is necessary and will be forthcoming. Surely there is in the future some prospect of the land yielding more per statute acre than it does at present? It is not yielding anything like what it should yield. If the yield is not increased, the population will decrease. If land only produces £2 per acre by grazing cattle on it, our population is bound to decrease, and there is no future for the country. In every agricultural Bill there should be a bias towards tillage. In the Agricultural Credit Bill there should be such a bias—the benefits given should be in proportion to the increased amount of tillage on a holding. I would, therefore, strongly urge the calling into conference of those who can assist in reviving flax growing, which is one of the best ways of giving employment. It was the industry in the past by which the tillage farmer was able to live economically. If that is not done I do not see how some of those who are at present living by tillage will be able to meet their obligations in the very adverse circumstances that prevail. I think on all these heads that it is the duty of the Minister for Lands and Agriculture, who is certainly applying himself with every assiduity, so far as I can see, towards doing all he can to better the condition from the agricultural point of view, to include this particular item in his repertoire, and try to get flax back into cultivation once more.

I am aware of some of the difficulties that the growers of flax have had to contend with in past years, and the rather rapid rise and fall in the area under cultivation, consequent on the great variation in prices. But I think, nevertheless, that the claim for special consideration for flax growing is a good one, and I hope that the Minister will agree to the proposition. There is no doubt whatever of the value of the flax crop from the point of view of the employment of labour. Everything that was said in respect of the beet sugar proposition can be said, and perhaps with added force up to the point of marketing, in respect of flax. It employs more labour than beet, it is at least as good for the following crops, and the after employment in preparation for the marketing of the ultimate product employs very much more labour than in the case of beet sugar making. I happen to have at hand a very close analysis of the figures relating to the production of linen cloth, from the point of sowing the flax seed to the production and the sale of the finished linen cloth. I find that between the sowing of the seed on 714 acres to the spinning into yarn—these are pre-war figures—£9,000 was spent in wages. All that can be related to the actual work in and around the flax-growing areas. Deputy Donovan has pointed out that the work of producing the fibre and spinning it is more or less complementary, and that we have facilities in the Free State for producing to that point. We have also facilities for going further; we have weaving factories, and I hope that any inquiry that may be made will not leave out that factor. Following the yarn spinning into the weaving, bleaching and finishing processes, out of the 714 acres, sown with flax seed worth £710, with the price of seed at that time —and the price of seed is about the same at present—the expenditure on wages, pre-war, was £13,000, producing £26,000 worth of cloth. These are all pre-war figures and would require to be adjusted according to present prices and costs, but they at least give an illustration of the possibilities of utilising soil, machinery and labour in actual production within the country.

The question of a market arises at once. There is at least a limited market for linen cloth in the Free State, a market which could very well be increased almost indefinitely. The proposition, as I would view it, is that this should be taken as part of a national economic policy, and one could see the desirability of encouraging flax growing, of encouraging flax spinning, of encouraging the making of linen and the making up of linen garments to be worn by the people of the country, all done within the country. But there is another possibility whereby such utter dependence upon the Belfast buyers would be eliminated. There is the possibility, if we were to specialise in growing flax and spinning, and weaving into linen goods, of making a special market, for Free State linen goods in the United States of America. It is well known that the greater portion of the Northern market for finished linen goods is in the United States. I believe that it is not at all outside the bounds of possibility that we could find a special market in the United States for Free State linen goods, and our definite fiscal freedom in this matter could be utilised in time to make a reciprocal arrangement with the United States for our linen goods in exchange for freedoms that United States goods have in this country in respect of certain articles of commerce —I have motor cars specially in mind.

There is a distinct possibility of specialising upon the production of linen cloth grown in the Free State, spun in the Free State and woven in the Free State, and getting a market for our surplus in the United States. Therefore, any inquiry that might be made should not be confined to flax-growers, spinners, and scutch-mill owners, but that also weavers in the Free State—and there are at least two weaving mills that could deal with linen cloth—should be brought into conference. There is a possibility so long as linen is marketable anywhere that we could usefully produce that linen, and there is a distinct possibility, if our economic policy is well directed to a definite end, that the use of linen goods by the people of this State, in preference to cotton and even artificial silk, to a very much greater extent than has hitherto been the case, might be encouraged. I would urge that that aspect of this question be borne in mind in making any inquiry such as is foreshadowed by Deputy Donovan. There is not the slightest doubt about the value of the industry, both from the agricultural point of view and from the industrial point of view, to the community as a whole, and I hope that the Minister will accede to this proposition with the addendum that I have urged, not necessarily in the form that I have suggested, but that certainly we should have in mind a consultation with the weaving side of this industry.

Deputy Johnson's suggestion was that a linen industry could be built up in this country, that flax could be grown, yarn could be spun and cloth could be made, that you could find a market for it in this country and that that would be well worth considering. He also indicated that a market, presumably for the surplus, could be very well found in the United States of America, and he pointed out, quite rightly that this country was specially suitable for the production of flax, and, generally, for the linen industry. He pointed out also that flax to some extent was a crop rather like sugar beet, and that if special measures were taken to establish a sugar beet industry in the country some attention should certainly be paid to the flax industry, which brings land under tillage, and gives a very big amount of employment, and in the end there is a factory process employing labour as well. That is all true. These are considerations undoubtedly that should be taken into account. But surely Deputy Johnson realises that his programme is extremely ambitious, and that a programme of that sort could not be carried out without consideration extending over months and months, without bringing in technical skill of the highest order from outside the country, and without having an entirely different sort of conference from the conference that is suggested here——

I think there is plenty of skill in the country.

Mr. HOGAN

—And the conference suggested here as extended by the Deputy's own suggestion, to bring in the weavers. What is the position? Flax growing in the Free State is not entirely unknown. Farmers in the flax-growing districts know as much about flax-growing as they know about the growing of mangolds and turnips. The methods of cultivation are well known, the results we have to expect are well known, the weight of the crops, the quality of the fibre, and all the rest of it, is fairly well known. I do not say that there is not room for improvement in development and research, but there is room for improvement in development and research in regard to the mangold crop, oats, or any other crop. Flax is in exactly the same position. The process is very well known. equally there is nothing new to be known about the weaving and spinning. So far as there is a problem it is purely a commercial problem, and it exists not only in the Free State, where it is comparatively unimportant at present, but in the North of Ireland, where it is of the profoundest importance. What is the position with regard to our flax-growing? I suppose one-fourth of the flax grown in Ireland is grown in the Free State—I am guessing my figures, but they are approximately accurate—and of that one-fourth I should say that not one-fourth again is grown in the South of Ireland. I should say that three-fourths—or perhaps five-sixths would be nearer to it— of the flax that is produced in Ireland is produced in Ulster, including Free State Ulster.

The entire market for that flax is in the North of Ireland, and was always in the North of Ireland, even when we had a spinning mill here. While a certain amount of flax was spun in the South of Ireland, nevertheless the yarn went to the North. The price of the yarn depended on the linen industry in the North, and, again, the price of the flax depended on the price of the yarn, and, ultimately, on the condition of the linen industry in the North. It is suggested now that we should call a conference of the flax growers of the Free State. There was one spinning mill here and it is closed. I did not know that there were any weaving mills open in the Free State——

There is one in Drogheda and one at Greenmount, Harold's Cross.

And there is no reason why the Cork weaving mill should not be going.

Mr. HOGAN

As far as I know of the Drogheda mill, it is operating in the Free State, but I should say that it is controlled, to a certain extent, from outside the Free State.

That is not so.

Mr. HOGAN

In any event, we have it that there is one weaving mill in Drogheda. We are to call this conference. When these people come together, what are they to do? Suppose we had them here this moment, what would they say? The growers would say "flax is not a profitable crop; though it is a little more profitable this year than it was last year." The weavers would say: "We are getting a slightly better price for linen, but there is no sign of stability yet and no great sign of an economic price." Having said all that, what would they say next, unless they were to attempt to tackle the problem Deputy Johnson outlined—the problem of establishing a linen industry in the Free State, the growing of the flax, the making of the linen, the finding of a profitable market in the Free State and the finding of a profitable market in America for the surplus. Surely it would be waste of time to call together representatives of the flax growers of the Free State, of the one spinning mill of the Free State, and of the Drogheda weaving mill, to discuss such a programme as that. If you drop that very ambitious programme—to outline some method of setting up a linen industry which does not exist at the moment, of protecting the Free State market so as to give a profitable price for the linen within the Free State, a price better than that in Belfast or than the Belfast people can get in the world—what are you going to discuss? I said that five-sixths of the flax of Ireland is grown in Ulster, and that far and away the biggest proportion of the flax grown in the Free State is grown in Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan. How can I get a better price for the flax growers of Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan? Their only market is the Northern market. The Northern millers know all that is to be known about the flax industry. They do things really well, and yet the industry is unprofitable. They are not able to give a decent price to flax growers, and they will not be able to get a decent price for their linen until world conditions change. Have we any control over those world conditions? Would any such conference as is proposed show us how we could control those world conditions? Let us turn to the South. Supposing it became profitable to open, again, this flax spinning factory in Cork, could that factory give any better price than the Northern factories are giving?

We were not looking for that. That would pay as well as the Northern factories.

Mr. HOGAN

The price that the South could give can be got in the North at the moment. If that were a profitable price, there would be more flax grown. It is a better price than could be given last year; hence there was a slight increase in the crop. If the position gets better in the North, the Northern factories will be able to give a better price. There will be more flax grown. But how is the opening of the Southern factory, which is now closed, going to get a better price for the farmer? Will it not always be the same price as the price in the North, and does not that depend on world conditions? Is it seriously suggested that in a conference of a few scutch mill owners, and a few growers, with representatives of the weaving mills which Deputy Johnson mentions, anything could be done to get us a better price?

Certainly.

Mr. HOGAN

I could take two views on this motion. I could save myself a lot of trouble by saying that I agreed with the resolution. I could then go back to the Department and ask the Chief Inspector, who deals with this particular question, to arrange a conference, call these people together and let them talk for a week. But that would be mere deception. If I thought that the conference could achieve any possible good, I would call it. But what could it do except talk? Do not tell me that this simply means bankruptcy—that the suggestion is that nothing whatever can be done for the flax industry. Of course, things can be done for the flax industry if you are willing to pay for them. I daresay that if you got a really efficient examination of the whole position by first-class men in a conference of this sort, they could tell you (1) what price would ensure the placing of a big area under flax in the Free State; (2) what sort of subsidy would start the spinning mills; (3) what size of tariff would afterwards enable you to protect the Irish market, which is extremely small, and (4) what sort of export bounty would afterwards "collar" the American market. If you got four or five really able men together, who had full technical knowledge of the flax-growing side, the spinning side and the weaving side, and if you gave them a year to get all the evidence together, they could give you fairly accurate information on all these points. Then you could decide whether the moneys necessary— the direct moneys by way of subsidies, or the indirect moneys by way of remissions of taxation or tariffs—would be worth expending on this particular sort of service, and whether you would get sufficient result from it. But to expect a conference composed of representatives of the flax growers of the Free State, of the company that formerly owned a spinning mill in Cork, and of the Drogheda and Greenmount Mills—to expect that conference to give you any assistance, to make any investigations that would enable you to express an opinion on the merits of the question, as raised by Deputy Johnson, to expect that, after a conference lasting a day, or two days, is, I suggest, absurd.

The Deputy may say: "Well, get your four or five men and have the question examined." But you are not going to decide a matter of policy offhand.

This industry is now at a very low ebb in the particular district which had a monopoly of it—in the place which used to do the linen business better than any other place in the world. At a time such as the present, when the industry in that district is sinking, you are to expend big sums of money in stabilising it here which could be more usefully expended otherwise! If the industry recovers in the North, well and good. There will always be a market for flax in the North if the market recovers. If the industry becomes more profitable the spinning mills here will be re-opened. If the spinning mills have a proposition to put up, let them put it up. If any of these mill-owners consider that they could be helped through the medium of the Credit Facilities Act, or by any other method, they know how to put the proposition forward. But merely to call together a conference of the flax growers and of representatives of the spinning and weaving mills, to put these people in a room and say: "Hammer out something between you that will stabilise the linen industry," when there is more money and brains and enterprise being used in an attempt to stabilise it in other countries, is absurd.

I am very sorry that the Minister has regarded this question from the viewpoint he did. I think he is taking a very narrow view, and I fear he does not realise his position as Minister for Agriculture when he speaks of the oldest industry we have in the light fashion he has spoken of it.

Mr. HOGAN

I have not spoken of it in a light fashion.

The Minister considers that this conference would not bring the results which I have suggested. I consider that, as farmers and flax growers, we have as good right to an inquiry into this question as the fishermen had to inquiry and conference in respect to their industry. I was asked three years ago to bring forward this motion. I waited until I saw that there was a trade revival—a definite trade revival. I have it from the best authorities in the linen industry in the States that there is a trade revival.

Mr. HOGAN

So much the better.

If Deputy Johnson's suggestions were followed, our representatives in other countries might be as well employed in looking for a market for our Irish linen as they are in looking, perhaps, for hopeless markets in regard to other things. There are several suggestions which this conference could put up. In the conference held in the past there was not the necessary cohesion, because there was only one end of the trade represented. The spinning and weaving end of the trade was not represented.

Deputy McGoldrick referred to seed production. Knowing the industry from A to Z, I say that that is the keynote of the whole situation. If we get reliable seed, as we did get when it was carefully handled, picked and cleaned by the Russian peasents in the old days, and if we have a return of fifty stone to the statute acre as I frequently saw in the old days—sometimes it reached sixty stone—the price will not affect the farmer. It is the yield that counts. If he gets a good yield, flax-growing will be an economic proposition for him. It will be more economic than any other crop. The Northern Government are at present subsidising the flax industry, particularly in the direction of the development of pure linseed.

They have a big area in Canada where they are growing flax solely for the production of linseed, and they expect, within a year or two, to put it on the market in sufficient quantities to revolutionise the flax industry in their province in the North. I do not see why we could not do it here. I put it up to the Minister two years ago to try and get some of this pure linseed for distribution amongst some of our progressive flax growers in the Saorstát. Even if it were done in small quantities it would not be long until we could put economically on the market a seed that would give us an economic return for our labour. As regards the statement of the Minister that the conference would be an abortive one, there are several matters that could be dwelt on, such as the saving of seed for feeding purposes, which would be of immense monetary value; the centralisation of rettings and other things that could be suggested and would, if carried, save the industry. I am very sorry that the Minister has taken this motion in a light vein, because I certainly am confident that if he did accede to my request it would have good results. I would ask him again to consider the position and see whether a conference could be set up that would hammer out a scheme that would be satisfactory.

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 18; Níl, 33.

  • Pádraig Baxter.
  • John Conlan.
  • Connor Hogan.
  • Séamus Mac Cosgair.
  • Tomás Mac Eoin.
  • Risteárd Mac Fheorais.
  • Risteárd Mac Liam.
  • Liam Mag Aonghusa.
  • William Norton.
  • Tomás O Conaill.
  • Liam O Daimhín.
  • Tadhg O Donnabháin.
  • Mícheál O Dubhghaill.
  • Seán O Duinnín.
  • Donnchadh O Guaire.
  • Mícheál O hIfearnáin.
  • Pádraic O Máille.
  • Pádraig O hOgáin (Luimneach).

Níl

  • Earnán de Blaghd.
  • Séamus Breathnach.
  • Seoirse de Bhulbh.
  • Próinsias Bulfin.
  • Máighréad Ní Choileáin Bean Uí Dhrisceóil.
  • James Dwyer.
  • Desmond Fitzgerald.
  • John Hennigan.
  • Seosamh Mac a' Bhrighde.
  • Donnchadh Mac Con Uladh.
  • Liam Mac Cosgair.
  • Pádraig Mac Fadáin.
  • Patrick McGilligan.
  • Seoirse Mac Niocaill.
  • Pádraig Mag Ualghairg.
  • Martin M. Nally.
  • Michael K. Noonan.
  • Peadar O hAodha.
  • Mícheál O hAonghusa.
  • Seán O Bruadair.
  • Risteárd O Conaill. Parthalán O Conchubhair.
  • Máirtín O Conalláin.
  • Eoghan O Dochartaigh.
  • Séamus O Dóláin.
  • Peadar O Dubhghaill.
  • Pádraig O Dubhthaigh.
  • Eamon O Dúgáin.
  • Fionán O Loingsigh.
  • Séamus O Murchadha.
  • Pádraig O hOgáin (Gaillimh).
  • Máirtín O Rodaigh.
  • Mícheál O Tighearnaigh.
Tellers.—Tá: Deputies Baxter and Heffernan; Níl: Deputies Dolan and P.S. Doyle.
Motion declared lost.