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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 25 Apr 1928

Vol. 23 No. 4

No. 11.—CUSTOMS.

I move:—

(1) That where a manufacturer in Saorstát Eireann of goods, in the manufacture or preparation for sale of which varnish made with spirit (in this resolution referred to as spirit varnish) is used, shows to the satisfaction of the Revenue Commissioners

(a) that a spirit varnish made in Saorstát Eireann and reasonably efficient for the purposes of such manufacturer is not obtainable, and

(b) that a substantial proportion of the said goods is exported, the Revenue Commissioners may, subject to the provisions of this resolution and to compliance with such conditions as they think fit for the security of the revenue from time to time to prescribe, allow the importation by such manufacturer without payment of spirit duty of such quantity of spirit varnish as they consider reasonable for the said purposes of such manufacturers.

(2) That no spirit varnish shall be imported under this resolution without payment of spirit duty unless the Revenue Commissioners are satisfied that such varnish is made with spirit which has before use in the manufacture of such varnish been sufficiently denatured to render such spirit impotable.

(3) That no continuing authority for the importation of spirit varnish without payment of spirit duty shall be granted under this resolution by the Revenue Commissioners for any period exceeding three years, but any such continuing authority may, so long as the Revenue Commissioners are satisfied that the conditions prescribed by them under this resolution continue to be fulfilled, be renewed from time to time for periods not exceeding three years.

(4) That any such continuing authority as aforesaid or any renewal thereof may be withdrawn by the Revenue Commissioners at any time.

(5) That if any person acts in contravention of any of the conditions prescribed by the Revenue Commissioners under this resolution he shall for each offence incur a penalty of fifty pounds, and any varnish in respect of which such contravention has taken place shall be forfeited.

(6) It is hereby declared that it is expedient in the public interest that this resolution shall have statutory effect under the provisions of the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act, 1927 (No. 7 of 1927).

Number 11 is for the admission, free of duty, of certain spirit varnish. It is really a concession that is being given in the interests of a particular firm. With the setting up of the Free State varnish containing spirit became liable to the spirit duty. So far as the ordinary grades of varnish were concerned we set about and made them in the country but for the purpose of varnishing biscuit tins Messrs. Jacobs found that they could not obtain any varnish made in the country that suited their requirements. When they first protested, the view I took was that they would have to try some more and I refused in that year to give them any concession. Experience has shown that it is actually impossible to get made here quick-drying varnish of the type they want. The varnish that they have been able to get when put on these biscuit tins does not dry quickly enough. The tins consequently stick to their conveyers when taken from one part of the factory to another and trouble occurs also when girls handle them; owing to the varnish not being dry it sometimes happened that the biscuits get soiled. It involves very little in the way of duty and is a handicap on a firm which is doing a big export trade and I thought it would be desirable that we should allow that as the varnish cannot be made in the country as we know now after four or five years' experience.

Has the Minister satisfied himself that it is not possible to have that varnish produced in this country? It seems to me—I have not had the opportunity of reading this as carefully as I would like but I do not think there is any question of licence, and to meet the position it seems to me that it would be very much better, during the time when experiments could be made in the production, that varnish should be allowed in for the sake of that firm on licence only.

This makes it discretionary. It gives a discretion to the Revenue Commissioners to admit. As a matter of fact, if we find that it can be made in the country we would refuse any permission to admit, but we have insisted on this firm for four years now using varnish made here. I went to the factory myself and was shown the process and am entirely satisfied that the varnish they have had to use was not entirely suitable. I was certainly very reluctant to make a concession in the general front of the duty and did not do it until the matter had been tried out for several years.

This is simply a remission of the present tax. Is it to continue definitely? Will you have to introduce a new resolution to reimpose it?

No. I think the Revenue Commissioners could refuse to permit it.

In other words, the effect is really the same as if it were under licence.

Practically.

I take it that the licence could be withdrawn if at any time the varnish could be made in this country to meet the requirements of the factory. I also had an opportunity of inspecting the conditions under which the firm are working, and they are working under a handicap with the varnish they are using at present. After I had an opportunity of examining the conditions, I got in touch with some firms in this country that are interested in this business, and I am aware that some of them are working at present on experiments in the hope that they will be able to produce varnish that will meet the requirements of the firm. If they succeed, I presume the licence given under this resolution can be withdrawn, so as to ensure that the firm would have to get it here.

This matter has been under the consideration of Deputies in various parts of the House and has been put before the Minister by them. They are satisfied that the varnish is unsuitable for the firm's requirements. Messrs. Jacob's tins reach China and the West Indies in a rusted condition. They are spoiled very much because of having to use varnish at present which is not suitable.

As far as I can see, this concession that the Minister is giving in this motion is merely giving effect to a promise he made to a deputation which met and discussed this matter at very great length in Government Buildings some time ago. Deputy Kerlin, I understood, was representing the Fianna Fáil Party on the deputation. We approached the Minister with a view to urging him to give this concession. I understood that Deputy Kerlin was speaking on behalf of Deputy Lemass on that particular occasion.

Question put and agreed to.
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