There was a reference made to the history of the League and to the activities of the League. If I am to take that as referring to its activities in a particular year, then I may say in regard to the last delegation, the only delegation which had to report to me as Minister for External Affairs, its report has been published. The International Labour Offices, which are not specially on the Vote and which have been referred to, will give reports from time to time, particularly on any matter in which we have a special interest, such as there was at this year's meeting. As to the point that there are two Votes, I think that is a reasonable division, particularly as anyone can see that there is no attempt to hide anything or to delude people. There is a statement under Sub-head A that the item is "the share of Saorstát Eireann of the general expenses of the League including the expenses of the permanent Court of International Justice but excluding those of the International Labour Organisation." There is there a definite indication. There is a further footnote on page 302, which says that "the contribution of Saorstát Eireann to the League of Nations includes a contribution to the expenses of the International Labour Organisation. Provision for the latter contribution and for the travelling, etc., expenses of the delegation and staff, for the annual conferences of the organisation is not made under Sub-head A of this Estimate but is made in the Estimate for Industry and Commerce." So that the public, if it is a discerning public and has any intelligence, quite easily and very simply can get details of the amount voted. It seems to be a better segregation that money which is specially voted in connection with the International Labour Office connected with the labour side, the peace in industry side, is included in the Vote of the Ministry for Industry and Commerce, and the rest left to this special vote.
I am asked to say what our delegates do, and I reply generally by saying that our reports have been and will be published as often as there are delegations. I do not suppose that it would serve any useful purpose to produce monthly reports of the proceedings of the League. I think it would be best to produce summaries after our delegations visit the League of Nations, as they do visit each year, and after visits to the International Labour Office, which take place a few times a year. With regard to the point which Deputy Lemass referred to, I think he would be much better advised to pay no attention to rumours of that kind, particularly to rumours of the type to which he has referred. I know nothing about the procedure in regard to a vacant seat. It has not figured on the agenda of any meeting I know of, privately, openly, or in any group of the League of Nations, or in connection with it. As to our attempting to run for a seat which is not yet vacant, I know nothing. I have seen that stated in the paper, but I do not know where the information came from. It is one of those things which fill a paragraph and can be taken by Deputies and given different colours here. The expenses of the League have gone up, but what Deputies are asked to do is to vote money to pay our share. It is on a sort of proportional basis. We pay ten units out of something like 910 units. The actual budget of the League is dealt with each year by a special committee which is set up to deal with the finances of the League. It votes money for expenses, and it keeps a close eye on them.
As long as new activities are given to the League, as they have been from time to time, particularly on the Labour side, and as long as new fields are created for survey, particularly in industry, their is going to be extra expenditure incurred at Geneva. Consequently our share will show some small increase. There is no committee about which there is so much violent disagreement at the League of Nations as the Budget Committee, which deals with the whole expenditure of the League. The small States, whose share is not an absolutely big one but one which is relatively large in proportion to their resources, are most vocal and most watchful to keep expenditure down. Some of the big nations have rather magnificent ideas of the work which could be done, but they are kept definitely in check by the small nations on this budgetary committee. However, expenditure did go up, and consequently we have had to pay a little extra. I think that the only way in which the reports can be issued is sometime after the delegations have gone, and when the final reports, as printed by the League, have come through. These reports can then be issued definitely, giving the part played by the members of the Free State delegation.
Incidental to that, there may be reference to the larger volumes which will contain the more general matter referring to the League of Nations. The same thing will apply, I think, to the International Labour Office—that reports should only be issued from the delegates or when the delegates return. There is a little more difficulty there——