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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 14 Jul 1932

Vol. 43 No. 7

Financial Motion—Emergency Imposition of Duties Bill, 1932.

The Dáil went into Committee on Finance.

The last line of this motion should be altered to read as follows: "Until confirmed by subsequent legislation or allowed to lapse, as the case may be."

Perhaps the Ceann Comhairle would read the whole of Section 2. I take it the alteration refers to Section 2?

Yes. The section now reads:

That every order so made by the Executive Council shall have statutory effect immediately upon the making thereof and shall, subject to any amendments or variation thereof by a subsequent order, continue to have statutory effect until confirmed by subsequent legislation or allowed to lapse as the case may be.

The words "revoked by a subsequent order" are changed?

Yes. These words have been deleted.

Is it the intention of the Opposition to debate the principle of the Bill on this Resolution?

Has the Minister for Finance any statement to make on the Financial Resolution? We would be glad to have any statement the Minister might make on the Resolution, and then a general debate could be taken on the Second Reading.

Will the Opposition permit us to take the Second Reading of the Bill this evening?

In that event, and in order to avoid unnecessary repetition, I would suggest that the Financial Resolution and the First Reading of the Bill should be taken now, and then open the debate on the Second Reading.

If the Minister wants to have it that way, very good.

Accordingly I move:—

(1) That the Executive Council may, if and whenever they think proper, do by order all or any of the following things, that is to say:—

(a) impose, whether with or without qualifications, limitations, drawbacks, allowances, exemptions, or preferential rates a customs duty of such amount as they think proper on any particular description or descriptions of goods imported into Saorstát Eireann on or after a specified day, and, where such goods are chargeable with any other customs duty, so impose such first-mentioned duty either in addition to or in substitution for such other duty;

(b) vary, in any manner or respect whatsoever, in regard to goods imported into Saorstát Eireann on or after a specified day any customs duty in force at the passing of this Resolution or imposed by any Act passed or order made after the passing of this Resolution or any qualification, limitation, drawback, allowance, exemption, or preferential rate in force at the date of such order in relation to any such duty;

(c) limit any such imposition or variation as aforesaid to goods consigned from or grown, produced, or made in particular countries;

(d) impose, whether with or without qualifications, limitations, allowances, exemptions, or preferential rates, an excise duty on any particular matter or thing as from any specified day and for the purpose of such duty, require the taking out of a licence for the doing of any particular thing;

(e) vary, in any manner or respect whatsoever and as from any specified day, any excise duty in force at the passing of this Resolution or imposed by any Act passed or order made after the passing of this Resolution or any qualification, limitation, allowance, exemption, or preferential rate in force at the date of such order in relation to any such duty;

(f) impose, whether with or without qualifications, limitations, allowances, or preferential rates, a stamp duty on any particular description of document or transaction as from any specified day and, for the purpose of such duty, require a document or a particular form of document to be used in or in connection with any particular description of transaction;

(g) vary, in any manner or respect whatsoever and as from any specified day, any stamp duty in force at the passing of this Resolution or imposed by any Act passed or order made after the passing of this Resolution, or any qualification, or preferential rate in force at the date of such order in relation to any such duty;

(h) apply (with or without modification) to or in respect of any duty imposed or varied by any such order any statutory provision regulating the collection of or imposing penalties in relation to duties of the class to which such duty belongs:

(i) place any duty imposed or varied by any such order under the care and management of the Revenue Commissioners;

(j) amend, vary, or revoke any order previously so made.

(2) That every order so made by the Executive Council shall have statutory effect immediately upon the making thereof and shall, subject to any amendment or variation thereof by a subsequent order, continue to have statutory effect until confirmed by subsequent legislation or allowed to lapse, as the case may be.

This motion is necessary in order to give effect to item No. 7 on the Order Paper. It is necessary to move it before the introduction of item No. 7, which is "a Bill entitled an Act to authorise the Executive Council to impose, vary and remove by order customs duties, excise duties and stamp duties." The purpose of that Bill, as the House has been already informed, is to give the Executive Council powers which are essential to deal with the situation created by the action of the British Government proposing to impose penal tariffs on Irish agricultural produce.

As indicated in reply to the Minister, we do not wish to discuss the matter on the Financial Resolution in deference to his suggestion, but we propose to divide on the Resolution.

Question put.
The Committee divided: Tá, 66; Níl, 51.

  • Allen, Denis.
  • Bartley, Gerald.
  • Beegan, Patrick.
  • Blaney, Neal.
  • Boland, Gerald.
  • Boland, Patrick.
  • Bourke, Daniel.
  • Brady, Bryan.
  • Brady, Seán.
  • Breathnach, Cormac.
  • Breen, Daniel.
  • Briscoe, Robert.
  • Browne, William Frazer.
  • Carty, Frank.
  • Clery, Mícheál.
  • Colbert, James.
  • Cooney, Eamonn.
  • Corish, Richard.
  • Corry, Martin John.
  • Crowley, Fred Hugh.
  • Crowley, Tadhg.
  • Curran, Patrick Joseph.
  • Derrig, Thomas.
  • Dowdall, Thomas P.
  • Everett, James.
  • Flinn, Hugo V.
  • Flynn, John.
  • Flynn, Stephen.
  • Fogarty, Andrew.
  • Geoghegan, James.
  • Gibbons, Seán.
  • Gormley, Francis.
  • Gorry, Patrick Joseph.
  • Goulding, John.
  • Harris, Thomas.
  • Hayes, Seán.
  • Hogan, Patrick (Clare).
  • Jordan, Stephen.
  • Kelly, James Patrick.
  • Kennedy, Michael Joseph.
  • Keyes, Raphael Patrick.
  • Kilroy, Michael.
  • Kissane, Eamonn.
  • Little, Patrick John.
  • Lynch, James B.
  • MacEntee, Seán.
  • Maguire, Ben.
  • Maguire, Conor Alexander.
  • Moane, Edward.
  • Moore, Séamus.
  • Moylan, Seán.
  • Murphy, Patrick Stephen.
  • O'Grady, Seán.
  • O'Reilly, Matthew.
  • O'Reilly, Thomas J.
  • O'Rourke, Daniel.
  • Powell, Thomas P.
  • Rice, Edward.
  • Ruttledge, Patrick J.
  • Ryan, Robert.
  • Sexton, Martin.
  • Sheehv, Timothy.
  • Sheridan, Michael.
  • Smith, Patrick.
  • Walsh, Richard.
  • Ward, Francis C. (Dr.)

Níl

  • Anthony, Richard.
  • Beckett, James Walter.
  • Bennett, George Cecil.
  • Bourke, Séamus A.
  • Brasier, Brooke.
  • Broderick, William Jos.
  • Brodrick, Seán.
  • Burke, Patrick.
  • Byrne, John Joseph.
  • Coburn, James.
  • Esmonde, Osmond Grattan.
  • Finlay, Thomas A.
  • Fitzgerald-Kenney, James.
  • Good, John.
  • Gorey, Denis John.
  • Hennessy, Thomas.
  • Hennigan, John.
  • Hogan, Patrick (Galway).
  • Keating, John.
  • Keogh, Myles.
  • McDonogh, Fred.
  • MacEoin, Seán.
  • McMenamin, Daniel.
  • Minch, Sydney B.
  • Mongan, Joseph W.
  • Morrissey, Daniel.
  • Collins-O'Driscoll, Mrs. Margt.
  • Conlon, Martin.
  • Cosgrave, William T.
  • Craig, Sir James.
  • Davis, Michael.
  • Desmond, William.
  • Dockrell, Henry Morgan.
  • Doherty, Eugene.
  • Doyle, Peadar Seán.
  • Duggan, Edmund John.
  • Mulcahy, Richard.
  • Murphy, James Edward.
  • Nally, Martin.
  • O'Brien, Eugene P.
  • O'Connor, Batt.
  • O'Higgins, Thomas Francis.
  • O'Leary, Daniel.
  • O'Mahony, The.
  • O'Neill, Eamonn.
  • O'Sullivan, John Marcus.
  • Reidy, James.
  • Reynolds, Mrs. Mary.
  • Roddy, Martin.
  • Thrift, William Edward.
  • White, John.
Tellers:—Tá: Deputies G. Boland and Allen; Níl: Deputies Duggan and P. S. Doyle,
Question declared carried.
Resolution reported and agreed.
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