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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 27 Jun 1933

Vol. 48 No. 10

In Committee on Finance. - Vote 63—Wireless Broadcasting.

I move:—

Go ndeontar suim ná raghaidh thar £29,030 chun slánuithe na suime is gá chun íoctha an Mhuirir a thiocfaidh chun bheith iníoctha i rith na bliana dar críoch an 31adh lá de Mhárta, 1934, chun na dTuarastal agus na gCostaisí eile a bhaineann le Fóirleatha Neashrangach.

That a sum not exceeding £29,030 be granted to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1934, for the Salaries and other Expenses in connection with Wireless Broadcasting.

The amount of the Estimate for the Broadcasting Service for the year 1933-34 is £43,530 as compared with £60,310 for 1932-33, that is a decrease of £16,780 due to the cost of the high power station having been almost cleared last year. The original estimate of cost of erection of the high power station including buildings was £70,000 and the actual cost will probably be slightly less. The revenue from wireless receiving licences last year amounted to approximately £17,296; from customs tax on wireless apparatus to about £64,682 (including about £12,000 for customs duty on plant for high power station). The revenue from advertisements and miscellaneous receipts amounted to about £220, making gross revenue of £82,918. The revenue for the current year is estimated at £20,000 from licences, £50,000 from customs duty and £18,000 from advertising programmes, making an estimated total of £88,000. The number of wireless receiving licences issued last year was 33,083 representing an increase of 4,438 over the previous year. The probable increase of licences as a result of the opening of the high power station in February last cannot yet be estimated with any degree of accuracy but in any case the growth of licences up to probable saturation point is likely to continue for several years. The expenditure on the broadcasting service out of all Votes last year amounted to about £87,945, including £46,100 for the high power station. This leaves an estimated deficit on the year's working of about £5,747 due entirely to the expenditure on the high power station. The expenditure on the broadcasting service out of all Votes in the current year is estimated at £55,000.

The outstanding events of the programmes last year were the broadcast of the Eucharistic Congress which included a world-wide transmission of the closing ceremony in the Phoenix Park and the broadcasting of an address by His Holiness the Pope. Other events of particular importance included President de Valera's address at the official opening of the High Power Station on 7th February last and also the President's address at the opening of the League of Nations Assembly. The evening programme hours have been extended to run from 6.0 p.m. to 11.0 p.m. on week-days, one hour, 9.45 p.m. 10.45 p.m., being reserved for advertising programmes. One hour's afternoon programme on Sundays has also been introduced and proposals are under consideration to extend this to two hours and also to extend the mid-day programme on week-days to an hour. The orchestra of the Dublin Station was recently increased from 6 to 19 players, which has considerably strengthened the programme generally. The all-round standard of programmes has been well maintained. Six concerts were given by the Symphony Orchestra of the Dublin Station and five concerts of the Dublin Philharmonic Society were broadcast. The station opera company performed a number of operas and there were also relays of concerts from Waterford, Galway, Sligo and other provincial centres. The "Talks" programmes have been considerably developed and included during the year series of talks on Irish history, Irish music, art, natural history, domestic economy and a special series of talks for farmers arranged by the Department of Agriculture. Special attention is being given to the Irish part of the programme with a view to the extension of the use of the Irish language in the programmes generally. In addition to the Irish lessons talks in Irish on general subjects are given regularly and Irish traditional music is given a prominent place on the programme.

Has the Minister any control over the fare that is offered in these programmes? I should like to refer to one point in particular. In the morning paper we very often read that Mr. So-and-So has arrived in this country. That night, in the late broadcast, when we are supposed to get the latest news, we have a repetition of the very same thing. Surely it is not necessary to give us an item such as that. We need not, of course, listen to the programme if we do not wish, but I think there is room for considerable improvement. Without wishing to be too critical, and at the risk of being told that I am trying to play England's game if I suggest that Daventry is a better station to listen to, I think I can truthfully say that there is great room for improvement in the fare provided for Irish listeners in the Dublin programme.

I should like to know if there is any reason why politics are excluded in this country from the wireless programmes to a greater degree than in any other country?

A Deputy

That is a recommendation.

I do not happen to be possessed of a wireless set nor have I possessed one, but I have heard very interesting political discussions from wireless sets in the houses of other people. I remember, for example, listening to a most interesting debate that had been specially arranged between Mr. Maxton and Sir Ernest Benn. It seems to me that the interest of the programmes for Irish listeners would be greatly increased if such discussions were introduced here—supposing one evening there was a debate over the wireless between Deputy Corry and Deputy Belton, and another evening between Deputy Norton and Deputy Hugo Flinn. I feel that the number of wireless sets that would be installed in this country would be greatly increased if there was a prospect of such entertainment as that. I commend it to the serious consideration of the Minister.

There is one instrument which appeals strongly to the Irish people, and yet I do not think I have heard it more than a few hundred times since the Dublin Station was opened. I refer to the Irish harp. We have numbers of skilled performers on the harp in this country and I do not know why it is practically boycotted at the Dublin Station. Perhaps the Minister would consider giving the Irish people more frequent performances from their national instrument.

Mr. Boland

On the question of news services, it has to be remembered that we have not got the same news services as newspapers. It would be a very costly business to get an up-to-date news service. The amount paid for the news by the broadcasting department is very small indeed, and to get the most up-to-date news would not be practicable at all. Undoubtedly, most of the news that is broadcasted in the evening is contained in the evening papers, but everybody in the country does not get an evening paper. I should like Deputy Minch to remember that.

I referred to the news in the morning paper.

Mr. Boland

There are some people in the country who do not even get the morning paper every day and they might possibly have a wireless set. I quite confess that there is not what one might call an up-to-date news service attached to the broadcasting station, but we would require a very considerable addition to the staff to provide that, an addition which is not considered to be warranted. That is the only explanation I have to offer in regard to that item. In regard to the general programme, each person has his own taste in regard to the programme that he would like broadcast. I am not a judge in these matters myself. What would please me might turn poor Deputy Minch sick. I have heard all sorts of complaints. I have heard some people on the other side say that the Dublin Station is very good. Others say it is very bad. The only way to test public feeling would be to take a census of the listeners. I do think myself there is room for improvement, but, as I say, I am not an authority on music. We have an Advisory Board on which there are a number of experts to advise us as to what they consider to be the best programmes. It may possibly be that we could improve the personnel of that Advisory Board, but the whole question boils down in the end to one's individual taste, whether a person prefers one type of entertainment to another. I think we shall have to leave it at that. If Deputy Minch definitely prefers Rome or Paris he will have to tune in and cut out Dublin. We cannot get a common level.

There is one instrumentalist there, and when he gets going he does not stop for an hour.

Mr. Boland

We hope to have an improvement, but I do not say that we will please everyone. That would be impossible. We will have to do the best we can. I agree that there is room for improvement. I do not know what is the idea of bringing politics into this matter. I think we get enough of them here. It might attract more subscribers if we did, but that also is a matter of opinion. We have had a harp occasionally, perhaps not as often as we might have it.

Can the Minister say how often?

Mr. Boland

A couple of times a month. Each instrument gets a date in the month. I will see if we can have it more frequently.

Is the Minister aware that the duty on strings is very heavy.

Mr. Boland

I am not.

Mr. Boland

We will try to meet the Deputy's wishes. He could send me word when the harp is not on the programme regularly.

What about the Irish pipes?

Would the Minister consider the desirability of setting up some sort of selection committee, particularly with regard to Irish music. While we have very attractive discourses on Irish music over the wireless, there seems to be a rather tedious tameness about the instrumental part. We get the "Walls of Limerick," the "Blackbird" and "Phil the Fluter's Ball," until we are sick of them. Surely the resources of Irish music do not end there. We had most elevating and interesting lectures over the wireless by famous Irish musicians, but the instrumental portion is very monotonous. We get the same thing over and over again. That does not make a good impression. It is an insult to Irish music to have to listen to "Phil the Fluter's Ball" every night.

In view of the new conditions between Donegal and Sligo, could the Minister arrange that there would be some direct communication in the area? Deputy Anthony pertinently stated that while we hear a lot about Irish music we hear very few competent exponents of it. I ask the Minister to consult the Director of the Broadcasting Station to see if further time could not be given to good traditional singing. One or two hardy annuals turn up regularly. I may be taken as praising that or otherwise, but whatever the method the hardy annuals are always there. There are numbers of beautiful traditional singers in the country who ought to be given an opportunity of broadcasting Irish music. The Minister might with advantage consult the Director of the Broadcasting Station in regard to that matter. As far as I am concerned, the best programmes now are the sponsored programmes, where you really get something worth listening to. It is a great pity that the programmes for which the Station is responsible are so manifestly inferior to the sponsored programmes. I suggest to the Minister that if the Director cannot improve the programmes himself he should consult the persons responsible for the sponsored programmes, and let them run the whole programmes. I do not know if economy is the reason why the programmes are of such a low standard. That may be the cause. If Philco and Beecham's Pills can afford to spend money, the Station ought to be able to do a little more than it has been doing. I direct the Minister's attention to the question of traditional singing.

Mr. Boland

I will certainly see that that matter is looked into. I agree that there is room for improvement there. I was interested in hearing Deputy Dillon say that the sponsored programmes were more interesting than the others. Most of the people I heard speaking on that matter said the reverse. It shows—Ní lia duine ná baramhail.

At least they could get the No. 1 Army Band once a week.

Mr. Boland

As far as I can I will make efforts to improve the programme. If any member of the public has any suggestions to make they will be considered. We will do our best to meet them.

Why are not the market prices given, the same as Daventry and other places?

Vote put and agreed to.
Progress reported. The Committee to sit again on Wednesday, 28th June.
The Dáil adjourned at 10.15 p.m. until 3 p.m. on Wednesday, 28th June.
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