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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 27 Sep 1933

Vol. 49 No. 14

Bills From the Seanad - Land Bond Bill, 1933—From the Seanad.

Recommendations.
1. Section 1. After the word "was" in line 44 to insert the words "agreed upon or".
2. Section 4, sub-section (5). To insert before the sub-section a new sub-section as follows:—
(5) The Minister for Finance shall, by regulations made by him under this Act, provide for the immediate redemption of new land bonds transferred by order of the Judicial Commissioner in redemption of land purchase annuities charged on lands acquired by the Land Commission under the Principal Act.

There are two recommendations from the Seanad and it is proposed to ask the Dáil to agree to both of them. The first is an amendment to Section 1 and proposes to insert the words "agreed upon or" after the word "was" in line 34. Paragraph (d) would then read "untenanted land which hereafter becomes vested in the Land Commission under Section 24 of the Land Act, 1923, but the price of which was agreed upon or fixed before the passing of this Act". It is considered probable that the paragraph in its original form might be held not to be sufficiently wide to include cases in which the price has been agreed upon between the Land Commission and the owner but in which there has not been an actual fixation by publication in Iris Oifigiúil. The words are inserted to overcome that difficulty.

The Dáil agreed with the Seanad in recommendation No. 1.

Message to be sent to the Seanad accordingly.

The second recommendation is to insert a new sub-section before sub-section (5) of Section 4. The new sub-section is set out on the Order Paper. Section 14 of the Land Act, 1923, provided that where land, which is subject to a purchase annuity has been acquired by the Land Commission under that Act, then in such case the annuity for the repayment of the original advance shall be regarded and dealt with as a claim attaching to the purchase money of the land advanced under the Act of 1923. This meant that the purchase annuity set up under the earlier Acts had to be redeemed by means of a payment in land bonds. With land bonds fluctuating in value it would have been practically impossible to fix with any accuracy the amount of land bonds required to redeem the annuity. It was consequently provided in Section 1 of the Land Act, 1923, that regulations to be made by the Minister for Finance for the drawing of land bonds should provide for the immediate redemption of bonds transferred by order of the judicial commissioner in satisfaction of death duties or in redemption of land purchase annuities. The amount of bonds transferred in satisfaction of the death duties was very large, and the sinking fund portion of the Act was quite insufficient to provide redemption money for these bonds. The result was that considerable draws had to be made on the Guarantee Fund and the grants had to be withheld from the local authorities. Section 3 of the Land Act of 1931 provided that bonds transferred in satisfaction of death duties were no longer to be drawn for immediate redemption. This provision was made possible by the fact that the land bonds were then over par and were not likely to fall below par, and that consequently there was likely to be no loss of revenue. There is no necessity for providing for the further redemption of land bonds tendered for death duties, but there remains the problem of purchase annuities that may be charged upon the land acquired under the new Land Bill, and it is proposed in that case where payment is made under this Act of 1923, that there shall be immediate redemption as in the case of former land bonds. In the case of the redemption of purchase annuities any serious draws on the Guarantee Fund are unlikely.

At premium?

No, on the normal value as previously.

The Minister expects them to be a premium.

Well, yes.

How is it to be met? By the Guarantee Fund?

No, we will redeem these bonds immediately at their normal face value. That is to say, we will not issue them.

Recommendations Nos. 1 and 2 from the Seanad agreed to.

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