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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 28 Jul 1936

Vol. 63 No. 16

Supplementary Estimate. - Sale of Food and Drugs (Milk) Bill, 1936—Second Stage.

I move that the Bill be now read a Second Time. The object of the Bill is to further correlate the provisions of the Sale of Food and Drugs Acts in relation to milk with recent milk legislation and to amend and clarify certain provisions of these Acts. Thus, Section 2 confers the powers of a sampling officer under the Sale of Food and Drugs Acts on a sampling officer of a sanitary authority for the purposes of the Milk and Dairies Act, 1935. Inasmuch as the sanitary authorities are charged with the duty of securing the purity and wholesomeness of the milk supply, it is desirable that the powers possessed by sampling officers under the Milk and Dairies Act, to take and submit samples of milk for bacteriological examination, should be extended to include the taking of samples for analysis as to chemical content under the Sale of Food and Drugs Acts.

Again, Section 3 enables the Minister to prescribe the manner of sampling and the amount of the sample. The purpose of this section is to ensure uniformity in the operations of sampling officers which has already been achieved in connection with samples taken under the Milk and Dairies Act. It will be appreciated that the result of an analysis of milk depends to a considerable extent on the method of sampling, and it has been brought to the notice of my Department that serious discrepancies have been found in the results obtained by public analysts and the State chemist, due largely, it is felt, to a lack of uniformity in sampling. It is essential, therefore, to ensure proper administration that uniformity of procedure in the collection of samples should be achieved. The effect of Section 4 is to rectify an error in Section 2 of the Act of 1935. The remaining sections are purely technical.

Question put and agreed to.

Might I ask the Parliamentary Secretary when regulations under the Milk and Dairies Act passed last year will be circulated to local sanitary authorities? There is a Milk Bill, as he is aware, before the House which interlocks with the Milk and Dairies Act of last year, and that Act should obviously be in operation before the present Milk Bill becomes an Act. The Milk and Dairies Act was rushed through last year as a matter of very urgent importance. It is a year old now and the regulations prescribed under it have not yet been circulated to the sanitary authorities. Could he tell the House when these regulations will be ready? They are only in draft at present.

The regulations will be issued with the least possible delay. I am not in a position to give a definite date, but I should say before the 1st October, in all probability.

Will they be issued and in operation before the Milk Bill now before the House is enacted and in force?

I am not in a position to anticipate when the Milk Bill at present before the House will be enacted and in force, but the regulations under the Milk and Dairies Act will be issued as soon as it is humanly possible to have them issued. They are in course of preparation, as the Deputy is aware, and as I have already said, we hope to have them issued before the 1st October.

Does the Parliamentary Secretary convey to the House that the Milk Bill was introduced——

The Deputy was permitted to ask a question. Now, however, he is speaking in vacuo, his remarks having no relation to the Bill which has just got a Second Reading.

I am asking this because the matter was mentioned by the Parliamentary Secretary in the course of his speech on this Bill. The Parliamentary Secretary now conveys that the present Milk Bill was introduced without any consultation with him or with his Department.

The Deputy will probably have an opportunity of discussing that point on an amendment tabled by him to the Milk Bill.

Yes, but I will not have an opportunity of doing so with the Parliamentary Secretary present. It was he piloted the Milk and Dairies Act through the Dáil last year and the Minister for Agriculture, in my view, at any rate, was deliberately absent. I am quite sure that the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Local Government will be deliberately absent when the Milk Bill is going through.

The Deputy is far away from the subject.

I shall like to have them both here together so that one could not blame the other.

Committee Stage ordered for Tuesday, August 4th.
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