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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 8 Nov 1939

Vol. 77 No. 7

Financial Resolutions. - Financial Resolution No. 5.—Customs.

I move:—

(1) That, in lieu of the duties of customs imposed by sub-section (1) of Section 5 of the Finance Act, 1920, there shall be charged, levied, and paid on all mum, spruce or black beer, Berlin white beer, and other preparations (whether fermented or not fermented) of a similar character imported on or after the 9th day of November, 1939, a duty of customs at the following rates, that is to say:—

(a) for every thirty-six gallons of beer of which the worts are, or were before fermentation, of a specific gravity not exceeding one thousand two hundred and fifteen degrees— twenty-two pounds and ten shillings;

(b) for every thirty-six gallons of beer of which the worts are, or were before fermentation, of a specific gravity exceeding one thousand two hundred and fifteen degrees— twenty-six pounds and eight shillings.

(2) That, in lieu of the duty of customs imposed by sub-section (2) of Section 5 of the Finance Act, 1920, there shall be charged, levied, and paid on all beer of any description (other than beer chargeable with the duty imposed by the foregoing paragraph of this Resolution) imported on or after the 9th day of November, 1939, a duty of customs at the rate of five pounds, twelve shillings and sixpence for every thirty-six gallons of beer of which the worts were before fermentation of a specific gravity of one thousand and fifty-five degrees.

(3) That, in lieu of the drawback payable under sub-section (3) of Section 5 of the Finance Act, 1920, there shall be allowed and paid on exportation or shipment for use as stores of imported beer on which it is shown, to the satisfaction of the Revenue Commissioners, that the duty imposed by either of the foregoing paragraphs of this Resolution has been paid a drawback, calculated according to the original specific gravity of such beer, at the rate of five pounds, twelve shillings and three pence on every thirty-six gallons of beer of which the original specific gravity was one thousand and fifty-five degrees.

(4) That where, in the case of beer which is chargeable with the duty imposed by paragraph (2) of this Resolution or in the case of beer on which drawback under paragraph (3) of this Resolution is payable, the specific gravity of such beer is different from the specific gravity mentioned in the said paragraph (2) or in the said paragraph (3) (whichever is relevant), the said duty or the said drawback (as the case may be) shall be varied proportionately.

(5) That Section 24 of the Finance Act, 1933 (No. 15 of 1933), shall not apply or have effect in relation to either of the duties of customs imposed by this Resolution.

(6) It is hereby declared that it is expedient in the public interest that this Resolution shall have statutory effect under the provisions of the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act, 1927 (No. 7 of 1927).

Can the Minister give a list of the popular beverages that will be hit by this tax, and the likely increase on the various quantities popularly used?

Imported beers of all kinds will have to bear this additional tax.

Mr. Byrne

Can the Minister make a comparison of the position in England and Northern Ireland and here, and say whether the increased tax here will be such that it will be larger than the tax operating in England and Northern Ireland at present? If I remember aright, Ireland did not remove the war tax of 26/- a barrel that was put on beer during the last great war, but it was taken off in England. Can the Minister say whether the tax that is now to be extracted from consumers here will be greater than the tax in these other places?

The tax we are now proposing will be higher than the tax presently in force in Great Britain and Northern Ireland by 8/- per 36 gallons.

In view of the enormous expenditure on defence in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, can the Minister say why it is necessary to have such a high tax put on such drink in this country?

Could the Minister give any consideration in this matter by way of preferential treatment to small brewers, who already have preference under the existing taxation?

This Resolution deals with Customs and the next one will deal with home manufacture.

Does this Resolution relate to spirits as well as beer?

Another Resolution does.

The Minister says that this means ½d. on the pint.

There is very little imported draught beer. The tax on that comes under the next Resolution.

It means ½d. per pint.

Mr. Byrne

Does "beer" include Guinness?

This is a Customs Resolution. There is another Resolution dealing with home brewing.

Question put.
The Committee divided: Tá, 63; Níl, 44.

  • Aiken, Frank.
  • Allen, Denis.
  • Bartley, Gerald.
  • Beegan, Patrick.
  • Boland, Gerald.
  • Boland, Patrick.
  • Bourke, Dan.
  • Brady, Brian.
  • Brady, Seán.
  • Breathnach, Cormac.
  • Breslin, Cormac.
  • Buckley, Seán.
  • Carty, Frank.
  • Childers, Erskine H.
  • Cooney, Eamonn.
  • Corry, Martin J.
  • Derrig, Thomas.
  • De Valera, Eamon.
  • Flynn, John.
  • Flynn, Stephen.
  • Fogarty, Andrew.
  • Fogarty, Patrick J.
  • Friel, John.
  • Fuller, Stephen.
  • Gorry, Patrick J.
  • Hogan, Daniel.
  • Humphreys, Francis.
  • Kelly, James P.
  • Kelly, Thomas.
  • Kennedy, Michael J.
  • Killilea, Mark.
  • Kissane, Eamonn.
  • Lemass, Seán F.
  • Little, Patrick J.
  • Loughman, Francis.
  • Lynch, James B.
  • McCann, John.
  • McDevitt, Henry A.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacEntee, Seán.
  • Maguire, Ben.
  • Meaney, Cornelius.
  • Morrissey, Michael.
  • Moylan, Seán.
  • Mullen, Thomas.
  • Munnelly, John.
  • O Briain, Donnchadh.
  • O Ceallaigh, Seán T.
  • O'Grady, Seán.
  • O'Loghlen, Peter J.
  • O'Reilly, Matthew.
  • O'Rourke, Daniel.
  • O'Sullivan, Ted.
  • Rice, Brigid M.
  • Ruttledge, Patrick J.
  • Ryan, James.
  • Ryan, Robert.
  • Smith, Patrick.
  • Traynor, Oscar.
  • Victory, James.
  • Walsh, Laurence J.
  • Walsh, Richard.
  • Ward, Conn.

Níl

  • Bennett, George C.
  • Benson, Ernest E.
  • Brasier, Brooke.
  • Broderick, William J.
  • Browne, Patrick.
  • Burke, Patrick.
  • Byrne, Alfred.
  • Byrne, Alfred (Junior).
  • Coburn, James.
  • Corish, Richard.
  • Cosgrave, William T.
  • Costello, John A.
  • Hurley, Jeremiah.
  • Keating, John.
  • Keyes, Michael.
  • MacEoin, Seán.
  • McFadden, Michael Og.
  • McGilligan, Patrick.
  • McGovern, Patrick.
  • McMenamin, Daniel.
  • Mongan, Joseph W.
  • Mulcahy, Richard.
  • Curran, Richard.
  • Daly, Patrick.
  • Davin, William.
  • Dillon, James M.
  • Doyle, Peadar S.
  • Esmonde, John L.
  • Everett, James.
  • Fagan, Charles.
  • Giles, Patrick.
  • Hannigan, Joseph.
  • Hickey, James.
  • Hughes, James.
  • Murphy, Timothy J.
  • Nally, Martin.
  • Norton, William.
  • O'Higgins, Thomas F.
  • O'Sullivan, John.
  • Pattison, James P.
  • Redmond, Bridget M.
  • Reidy, James.
  • Reynolds, Mary.
  • Ryan, Jeremiah
Tellers:— Tá: Deputies Smith and Brady; Níl: Deputies Doyle and Bennett.
Resolution declared carried.
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