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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 2 May 1951

Vol. 125 No. 13

Financial Resolution No. 3—Customs and Excise. - Hydrocarbon Oil.

I move:—

(1) That the duty of customs imposed by Section 21 of the Finance Act, 1935 (No. 28 of 1935), shall, in respect of hydrocarbon oil, chargeable with that duty, be charged, levied and paid, as on and from the 3rd day of May, 1951, at the rate of 1/4 the gallon in lieu of the rate now chargeable by virtue of sub-section (1) of Section 4 of the Finance Act, 1948 (No. 12 of 1948).

(2) That the rebate allowable under sub-section (2) of Section 21 of the Finance Act, 1935, shall, in respect of hydrocarbon oil on which such rebate is allowable, be allowed, as on and from the 3rd day of May, 1951, at the rate of 1/4 the gallon in lieu of the rate now allowable by virtue of sub-section (2) of Section 4 of the Finance Act, 1948.

(3) That the duty of excise imposed by Section 21 of the Finance Act, 1935, shall, in respect of hydrocarbon oil chargeable with that duty, which is sent out, on or for sale or otherwise, from the premises of the manufacturer thereof on or after the 3rd day of May, 1951, or is used by such manufacturer on or after that date for any purpose other than the manufacture or production of hydrocarbon oil, be charged, levied and paid at the rate of 1/2 the gallon in lieu of the rate now chargeable by virtue of sub-section (3) of Section 4 of the Finance Act, 1948.

(4) That the rebate allowable under sub-section (4) of Section 21 of the Finance Act, 1935, shall, in respect of hydrocarbon oil on which such rebate is allowable and on which the excise duty mentioned in paragraph (3) of this Resolution was paid at the rate of 1/2 the gallon, be allowed at the rate of 1/2 the gallon in lieu of the rate now allowable by virtue of sub-section (4) of Section 4 of the Finance Act, 1948.

(5) It is hereby declared that it is expedient in the public interest that this Resolution shall have statutory effect under the provisions of the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act, 1927 (No. 7 of 1927).

It is quite impossible with the kindergarten on the other side to hear what the Minister said. Would the Minister explain to the House whether this is a tax upon the fuel which is used in buses? Did the Minister say so much or does he know?

I do not know.

The House is now in the happy position of having a tax proposed by a Minister who does not know that he is taxing. Perhaps I might try to enlighten him a bit. I understand that hydrocarbon oil is the expression which is used to distinguish diesel oil from the mineral hydrocarbon light oil commonly called petrol. This is the fuel which the Minister informed us during the brief discussion on the last Resolution, drives the buses which bring the workers of Dublin to work; the oil which drives the vehicles upon which most of those who have to live in Kimmage and Crumlin and who are earning their living in the City of Dublin have to travel twice and sometimes four times a day. It is interesting to note that Deputy Davin and the Labour Party, who were so concerned about the position of the workers in Dublin at the last general election, are now going to vote to increase the cost of transport for the workers of Dublin while at the same time they approve of the Minister's proposal in Financial Resolution No. 5, to decrease the rates of death duties upon the fortunate individuals who die leaving behind them capital sums up to as much as £7,500. I do not think there are many people living in either Crumlin or Kimmage or any other industrial residential centre in Dublin who will benefit by Resolution No. 5, but they will suffer under Resolution No. 3 because Resolution No. 3 proposes to increase by 14 per cent. the tax upon diesel oil which, again according to the Minister, is used principally for the propulsion of buses.

The beneficiaries of those people who die and are fortunate enough to leave up to £2,000 in estate will be relieved of their present rate of taxation to the tune of 100 per cent. If they are fortunate enough to leave between £2,000 and £3,000 they will have the tax upon that estate reduced by 66? per cent.; if they are still more fortunate to leave between £3,000 and £5,000 the tax upon that estate will be reduced by one-half; and if they go up in the scale of prosperity and good fortune and leave between £5,000 and £7,500 that estate will be reduced by one-third.

It will not be reduced under this Resolution.

But we must take the Budget as a whole and I am pointing out——

It is the established custom that the debate on each Resolution must be relevant to the Resolution and confined to it.

He does not mind that.

The position is, as I have explained to the House, that the more fortunate elements in this community—the small capitalists, if one likes to call them so—will be very lucky.

Under this Resolution?

They will be very lucky inasmuch as they will be generously compensated for what they lose under Resolution No. 3 by what they gain under Resolution No. 5. But I am concerned with the fact that the people in Crumlin and Kimmage will have the cost of transport appreciably increased to them. We know there are now 19 members of the Labour Party here; and there are, of course, the seven little nigger boys of Clann na Poblachta.

The reference to Crumlin and Kimmage makes it perfectly clear why Deputy Barney Butler was not elected Lord Mayor.

That is Ballsbridge.

When the cross-talk comedians have finished I shall endeavour to continue. I want to emphasise again—apparently it does not appeal to either Deputy Davin or Deputy C. Lehane—the fact that this Resolution proposes to increase the rate of duty upon diesel oil by 14 per cent. and it is upon diesel oil our buses run. I trust that when Deputy C. Lehane next goes on the election hustings he will devote as much attention to the 14 per cent. increase on the cost of diesel oil as he devoted to the 1d. on the pint in the election of 1948. He will, at any rate, have a harder job.

Perhaps you would advocate its reimposition.

I merely want to say that the tax on diesel oil was raised by 1/3 by the last Government in May, 1944, and it remained at that for five years. It is 1d. more now.

Who is putting it up?

You people put it up to 1/3.

Resolution put.
The Committee divided: Tá, 69; Níl, 62.

  • Beirne, John.
  • Belton, John.
  • Blowick, Joseph.
  • Brennan, Joseph P.
  • Browne, Patrick.
  • Byrne, Alfred.
  • Byrne, Alfred Patrick.
  • Coburn, James.
  • Cogan, Patrick.
  • Collins, Seán.
  • Commons, Bernard.
  • Connolly, Roderick J.
  • Corish, Brendan.
  • Cosgrave, Liam.
  • Costello, John A.
  • Crotty, Patrick J.
  • Davin, William.
  • Desmond, Daniel.
  • Dillon, James M.
  • Dockrell, Maurice E.
  • Donnellan, Michael.
  • Doyle, Peadar S.
  • Dunne, Seán.
  • Everett, James.
  • Fagan, Charles.
  • O'Higgins, Michael J.!Reynolds, Mary.
  • O'Higgins, Thomas F.
  • O'Higgins, Thomas F. (Jun.).
  • O'Leary, John.
  • O'Reilly, Patrick.
  • O'Sullivan, Martin.
  • Palmer, Patrick W.
  • Pattison, James P.
  • Redmond, Bridget M.
  • Reidy, James.
  • Fitzpatrick, Michael.
  • Flanagan, Oliver J.
  • Giles, Patrick.
  • Halliden, Patrick J.
  • Hickey, James.
  • Hogan, Patrick.
  • Hughes, Joseph.
  • Keyes, Michael.
  • Kinane, Patrick.
  • Kyne, Thomas A.
  • Larkin, James.
  • Lehane, Con.
  • McAuliffe, Patrick.
  • MacBride, Seán.
  • MacEoin, Seán.
  • McFadden, Michael Og.
  • McGilligan, Patrick.
  • McMenamin, Daniel.
  • Madden, David J.
  • Morrissey, Daniel.
  • Mulcahy, Richard.
  • Murphy, William J.
  • Norton, William.
  • O'Donnell, Patrick.
  • O'Gorman, Patrick J.
  • Reynolds, Mary.
  • Roddy, Joseph.
  • Rooney, Eamonn.
  • Sheehan, Michael.
  • Sheldon, William A.W.
  • Spring, Daniel.
  • Sweetman, Gerard.
  • Timoney, John J.
  • Tully, John.

Níl

  • Aiken, Frank.
  • Allen, Denis.
  • Bartley, Gerald.
  • Beegan, Patrick.
  • Blaney, Neal T.
  • Boland, Gerald.
  • Bourke, Dan.
  • Brady, Seán.
  • Breen, Daniel.
  • Brennan, Thomas.
  • Breslin, Cormac.
  • Briscoe, Robert.
  • Buckley, Seán.
  • Burke, Patrick.
  • Butler, Bernard.
  • Childers, Erskine H.
  • Colley, Harry.
  • Collins, James J.
  • Corry, Martin J.
  • Cowan, Peadar.
  • Crowley, Honor Mary.
  • Davern, Michael J.
  • Derrig, Thomas.
  • De Valera, Eamon.
  • De Valera, Vivion.
  • Flynn, Stephen.
  • Friel, John.
  • Gilbride, Eugene.
  • Gorry, Patrick J.
  • Harris, Thomas.
  • Hilliard, Michael.
  • Kennedy, Michael J.
  • Kilroy, James.
  • Kissane, Eamon.
  • Kitt, Michael F.
  • Lahiffe, Robert.
  • Lemass, Seán F.
  • Little, Patrick J.
  • Lydon, Michael F.
  • Lynch, John.
  • McCann, John.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacEntee, Seán.
  • McGrath, Patrick.
  • Maguire, Patrick J.
  • Moran, Michael.
  • Moylan, Seán.
  • Ó Briain, Donnchadh.
  • O'Grady, Seán.
  • O'Reilly, Matthew.
  • Ormonde, John.
  • O'Rourke, Daniel.
  • O'Sullivan, Ted.
  • Rice, Bridget M.
  • Ryan, James.
  • Ryan, Mary B.
  • Ryan, Robert.
  • Sheridan, Michael.
  • Smith, Patrick.
  • Traynor, Oscar.
  • Walsh, Richard.
  • Walsh, Thomas.
Tellers:—Tá: Deputies Doyle and Spring; Níl: Deputies Kennedy and Kissane.
Resolution declared carried.
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