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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 27 Oct 1954

Vol. 147 No. 1

Public Authorities (Judicial Proceedings) Bill, 1954—Second Stage.

I move that the Bill be now read a Second Time. I do not think I need say overmuch as to the provisions of the Bill which proposes to remove from the Statute Book once and for all the Public Authorities Protection Act, 1893. That Act has over the years been the subject of much criticism and in this day and age it is hardly necessary to argue very strongly to convince people as to the injustice it occasions to members of the community with causes of action against public authorities.

The Act was put rather hurriedly through the British Parliament and was alleged to be a consolidation of existing statutory provisions, and nobody at the time seems to have been too well aware of what it involved. Under its provisions a person suing the State or a local authority has to bring proceedings within six months of the act, neglect or default complained of and not within six months of the date the cause of action arose. In this respect the Act differs fundamentally from other statutes of limitation under which the rule is that time begins to run from the time the cause of action arises, or, as it had been termed, the date of accrual of the cause of action. The provisions of the 1893 Act can thus lead to what one judge called "the starting result that you may lose a cause of action before you have got it", because the period of six months runs not from the date the plaintiff suffers injury but from the date of the act of the public authority or the ceasing thereof, which may be long before any actionable injury is caused.

The period of six months is, of course, far too short and cases have arisen where a person could not bring his action because the damage caused to him did not manifest itself in time. A typical case is where damage is done to the foundations of a house by vehicles belonging to a county council passing along the roadway near the house.

Where a person with a cause of action against a public authority is insane or an infant and cannot, accordingly, sue, the 1893 Act makes no provision postponing the beginning of the six months' period until his disability has ceased and in this respect again, it differs from other limitation statutes.

The remaining objectionable feature of the 1893 Act is that the public authority gets specially favourable treatment as to costs. An unsuccessful plaintiff is liable to solicitor and client costs instead of party and party costs. Even a successful plaintiff is liable for solicitor and client costs if he proceeds with an action after an offer has been made or after payment of any money into court and if he does not recover more than the amount offered or lodged in court. Finally, solicitor and client costs may be awarded to a public authority, if the court is of opinion that the plaintiff did not give the authority sufficient opportunity to make an offer for settlement.

The construction of the 1893 Act has led to endless difficulty in the courts and as a judge of the Supreme Court said once in a famous case: "It is scarcely possible to lay down, with any approach to completeness, any affirmative principle of interpretation of the words of the Act". It may be that originally the Act was designed to prevent people challenging important administrative acts of public officials after a long lapse of time but it has turned out that the vast majority of the cases in which the Act has been relied on are cases of ordinary negligence by servants of public authorities as, for example, the negligent driving of a local authority vehicle or the negligence of a local authority medical officer and the like. There seems no reason why these wrongdoers should be given special protection simply because they are paid from public funds. Injustice has resulted and does result from the Act and a British committee observed rather pointedly that it was only those who benefited from the Act who considered it should continue.

At all events, my view and the view of the Government was that the Act should be completely repealed and the present Bill is the result. The text of the Bill is based on that introduced in 1952 by the present Minister for Agriculture as a Private Member's Bill. My predecessor in office agreed to examine that Bill and I think I may say that, after he had considered various amendments which would alleviate the injustices of the 1893 Act, he had more or less come round to the view that the best thing to do was to abolish the Act altogether.

Section 2 (1) of the Bill now before the House repeals the 1893 Act and Section 2 (2) repeals the enactments specified in the Schedule to that Act in so far as they are not repealed by that Act. These enactments, about 100 in number, gave protection to persons acting in pursuance of particular Acts of Parliament. The repeal in the 1893 Act is limited to so much of the Acts as relate to any proceedings to which the 1893 Act applies and there is, consequently, a doubt as to how far these old Acts might be considered still to apply. The repeal in the Bill will clear up any such doubt.

Section 2 (3) of the Bill provides for the repeal of Section 44 of the Great Northern Railway Act, 1953, which applies the 1893 Act to the Great Northern Railway Board subjects to the extension of the six months' time limit to 12 months and subject to the non-application of the special provisions as to costs in the 1893 Act. Section 44 was inserted in the 1953 Act to bring the law in this part of the State into line with that applicable in the Six Counties. The 1893 Act does not, by reason of Section 10 of the Transport Act, 1950, apply to C.I.E.

The new Act is, under Section 1, expressed to come into operation on the 1st January next. Under sub-section (4) of Section 2 the repeal of the 1893 Act and the repeals of the other enactments will not apply to any proceedings if the cause of action accrued before the 1st July of this year. The effect of this is that, where a person suffers actionable injury after the 1st July by the act of a public authority, the authority will not be able to plead the 1893 Act. Where, however, actions have arisen before the 1st July the authority will be able to plead the 1893 Act. These provisions are designed to prevent stale claims being brought and I think they are reasonable.

I recommend the Bill to the House. It provides a highly desirable and long needed reform of the law and even if it comes a bit late it is better late than never.

I have to admit that I have come around to the view that this Bill should be totally repealed. That was my own personal view, but I think that before we left office the position was that we were trying to convince other Departments that that view was right. Apparently that has been done now, but, whatever my personal views are, a number of members of our Party who are members of local authorities—and there are others in other parts of the House—think that time should be given for consideration of what the reactions are likely to be on public authorities. Although we do not propose to vote against the Second Reading, we should like to have some time before Committee Stage to consider that aspect.

Everyone agrees, I think, that the six months' period is just ridiculous, and I do not know how it persisted so long, but whether a period of six years in which to bring an action against a local authority is not too long is a matter for consideration. I may be wrong, but I have a recollection of reading a debate in the British House of Commons on this point, and I think there was some suggestion there that the six years' period allowed by the Statute of Limitations was too long and that it might be reduced to three years or some such period. I do not know whether the Minister intends to look for all stages to-day or not.

We would like some time to consider it. We might have an amendment to put down on Committee Stage. I have to agree that what the Minister has said about myself was right. He has all the facts, and I cannot deny it. I was personally in favour of the Bill as it stands, and I agree that Section 44 of the Great Northern Railway Act ought to be repealed, so as to bring the position into line with whatever is done here in respect of public authorities.

There can be no doubt that this Bill is long overdue, and there can be equally no doubt that the provisions of the Public Authorities (Protection) Act, 1893, worked a great hardship on the public in general and, as I think, worked great injustice on many plaintiffs in many actions whose lawful rights were interfered with. The country as a whole must, therefore, welcome the repeal of the Act, and the only comment I have to make on the Bill before the House is that there appears to me to be an omission from it on which I should be glad to have the Minister's view. If it is an omission, I should like him to consider inserting a section to deal with the point I wish to refer to.

The Bill intends to repeal the Public Authorities (Protection) Act, 1893, but does not purport to repeal the Local Government (Ireland) Act, 1898, Section 51, sub-section (7) of which does put a limitation of six months, and in certain circumstances, a further limitation of three months on any action against county councils where a claim made against a county council is to be payable out of the poor rate. Many claims are payable out of the poor rate, and this particular section of the Local Government Act, 1898, has been pleaded, sometimes successfully, in the courts. It seems to me that it would be a hiatus in our legislation if we were to allow local authorities to plead Section 51 (7) of the Local Government (Ireland) Act in certain circumstances. This particular section is not repealed, and I think a section should be put into the Bill specifically repealing this section of the Local Government Act, 1898.

One other point I wish to make is that, in repealing the Act of 1893, we will also be repealing Section 2 of that Act. Section 2 does repeal certain provisions—in fact, all provisions—in public general Acts, which refer to the necessity of commencing proceedings in particular places, the necessity of giving notice of action and certain provisions which may be in certain public general Acts relating to the fact that a defendant might, in particular kinds of actions, be deprived of costs in certain specified events. It seems to me that it would be advisable, as we are repealing Section 2, to re-enact certain provisions of Section 2 which may be applicable at the present time. It will not be and need not be reenacted in toto, but, for the sake of clarity and to avoid difficulty in the future, by reason of the fact that old Acts may appear suddenly in the courts, certain provisions of which may have been repealed by the Public Authorities (Protection) Act and which we had brought to life again by the repeal of that Act.

I also should like to support this Bill as a reform of the law which is much needed. There is only one point which I should like the Minister to consider. Sub-section (2) of Section 2 of the Bill provides:

"The enactments specified in the Schedule to that Act are, so far as they relate to the limitations of actions, prosecutions or other proceedings and are not repealed by that Act, hereby repealed."

The position is that there are a large number of Acts specified in the Schedule to the Public Authorities (Protection) Act, 1893, which, prior to the passing of that Act, did impose limitations of time on the commencement of the proceedings against various bodies, including local authorities and State bodies. These Acts were, in so far as they imposed a time limit, repealed—most of them— by a named section of the Act of 1893 and I should like the Minister to consider whether sub-section (2) of this section in its present form does not have the effect of repealing the Public Authorities (Protection) Act, 1893 and repealing the specified Acts only in so far as they were not repealed by the 1893 Act and therefore, in effect, reviving the specified Acts in the Schedule to the 1893 Act in so far as they affect time limits. That is the only matter I should like the Minister to consider, on the effect of this sub-section because it does seem to me that, if the sub-section is left in its present form, the effect would be to repeal the 1893 Act and revive a great number of Acts which were in force prior to the Act of 1893 and which are equally as harsh, and sometimes more harsh in their time restriction than was the 1893 Act.

I think everyone is agreed that the repeal of the Act in question is overdue but I wonder whether everyone is agreed with regard to the period which it is proposed to allow within which actions may be brought against local authorities. The existing statutory limitation of six months was certainly too short but personally I do not think I could agree to extend the period to six years. It is all very well to extend the playground for the legal profession, which is virtually what this Bill does. Local authorities are always looked upon as good marks for actions of any kind and the judicial authorities regard them as such but I think that a three years' limitation would be ample to protect the interests of the public in these cases. In fact, I question whether the period of six years in the Statute of Limitations within which actions can be brought by private persons is not in itself rather long.

I would suggest that the Minister might give an assurance that at some future date, the six years allowed in the Statute of Limitations should be reduced to a period of three years, thus bringing local authorities on a par with private individuals. We would all be perfectly satisfied with that. It is not likely that the lawyer members of the House would agree to any curtailment of the limit provided for in the Statute of Limitations and they may not agree to the six years' limitation with regard to local authorities but those of us who realise what local authorities are up against with regard to legislation of this kind —they are always regarded as fair game by any person who feels that he might be able to substantiate an action arising out of something that happened years ago—must regard a proposal of this character with some doubt. If a period of six years is allowed within which a person may bring an action against a local authority, some person might think it worth while to try to establish that some defect in his health or physical condition was due to an injury that occurred six years ago and by that means, and no doubt with the encouragement of his legal advisers, endeavour to substantiate an action in a case where he knows the ratepayers' money is involved. While we are all agreed that the limitation of six months was much too short, I doubt if members of local authorities will agree that six years would be a suitable period. I think the Minister should consider meeting the local authorities half way by prescribing three years as the period of limitation in the case of local authorities. I am not prepared to argue that particular point but I do know that local authorities hold very strongly on this point, as to the liability which they will incur if you allow the limitation of six years proposed in this Bill. I would strongly suggest that the Minister should give an assurance that the period in the Statute of Limitations should be reduced to three years in all cases. If the term were made three years, I would be perfectly in agreement with the Bill.

I wish to disagree with the Deputy who last spoke in imposing any kind of lesser restriction in the matter of time, in relation to this legislation on local authorities, than will be afforded to anybody else. I think that what was contemplated by the proper authority in bringing a Bill before the House to repeal the Public Authorities Protection Act, 1893, was to bring public authorities into line with the provisions in the ordinary Statute of Limitations. Very often, even a term of three years might work an injustice in the case of a person whose cause of action might not become obvious within that time.

There is one aspect of the Bill to which I should like to refer and ask the Minister to reconsider. That is sub-section (4) of Section 2, which says that "the foregoing repeals shall not affect any action, prosecution or other proceeding if the cause of action accrued before the first day of July, 1954. . ." I would prefer to substitute the words "the institution of proceedings" for the words "the cause of action". I would rather make this Bill, after it becomes an Act, relate to the institution of proceedings as the time limit rather than the cause of action because a cause of action which might not be obvious on the 30th June last might become obvious in the early days of July and, accordingly, it might work hardship on a particular applicant or plaintiff as the case may be. I am not saying that with the object of further extending the playground referred to by the last Deputy who spoke, because I think there is no need to impress on the House and the country that legal practitioners never sought to set up a local authority as a cockshot because, after all, we have a certain sense of responsibility as practitioners and our aim is to protect the people's interest, either in the local authorities or in the National Assembly. Predominantly our attitude, of course, is to protect our clients' interests.

I perhaps should not intervene in this debate having, for the moment, shed myself of my functions as a practising lawyer, but I did speak on a previous occasion when the Minister for Agriculture was introducing a Bill similar to this. I just want to controvert one or two comments which Deputy Brennan made. It is a matter of consideration as to whether or not a period of six years is too long as a limitation. It is a matter for consideration as to whether it is too long for private individuals. This Bill is intended to put local authorities, public bodies and all the people who are entitled to the protection of these Acts —the Public Authorities Protection Acts—on the same basis and to give no one person a privilege over another. The question can be subsequently considered—and if we get a chance we shall consider the whole field of limitation of actions—of bringing in a Bill, as I had intended to do when I was previously in office, dealing with the period of limitation of actions, but all people, whether public bodies or private individuals, should be on the same basis and no one should have any privilege over another.

Deputy Brennan suggested that members of the legal profession are out after local authorities, making actions of this type a sort of playground. If I were to look upon this question from the point of view of creating a playground for members of the legal profession, I would leave the Act as it is, because it is an instrument by which my colleagues might make substantial incomes. So far as the allegation that public authorities are the victims, I do not know whether Deputy Brennan has heard of the case of Carter versus the Kildare County Council. The Kildare County Council fought a small farmer who had a small public-house in County Kildare. He got damages from a Dublin jury who found that his premises were damaged through the negligent operation of a steamroller. It was not possible to ascertain that damage until after the period of six months had gone by.

The owner of the house did not know the house was damaged, because it did not start to fall down until after six months. Then he brought an action against the Kildare County Council and a jury, under the direction of Mr. Justice Maguire, gave a verdict in his favour. Mr. Justice Maguire decided that because the man did not know of the damage at the time, on the interpretation of the Act his cause of action was not gone. A majority of the Supreme Court decided on appeal in favour of the Kildare County Council, a public body which, according to Deputy Brennan, is the victim of the machinations of the legal profession; that public body brought this unfortunate poor man, and his mother, to the Supreme Court. The case lasted for days—I was in it myself—and ultimately a majority of the Supreme Court on a very narrow and, in my view, wrong interpretation of the law decided in favour of the Kildare County Council. In addition to that, my unfortunate client on the application of this public body was made to pay solicitor's and client's costs—an outrage and an injustice.

And the Chairman of the Kildare County Council was there and was responsible for it.

One of my present Ministers was a member of the Kildare County Council. At all events, I want now to disabuse the mind of anyone here who thinks there is anything sinister in connection with proceedings against local authorities. I want, too, to emphasise that private litigants are in a very inferior position when fighting public authorities. Public authorities have the money and money, therefore, means nothing to them.

They have the experts. The private individual is not able to afford the expense of employing the powerful weapons that are in the hands of public authorities and private individuals very often suffer injustice because of that. Let that be perfectly clear to anyone who thinks that public authorities are entitled to privileges. The people about whom we should be thinking here are the private individuals with small means, individuals who have to fight powerful bodies like local authorities with any amount of money behind them and all the necessary resources in the way of experts and advisers. These are all available to local authorities and as often as not the private individual has not got the resources to fight public bodies.

No Deputy could possibly conceive that public authorities are victims. If there is any victim, it is the private individual. Let that be quite clear. Let me impress upon the House that what we want to do here is to put all on the same level so that no privilege can be obtained over a fellow citizen. Hitherto certain people have benefited by the interpretation of the Act in a manner in which I believe it was never intended they should benefit. If the period of limitation is too wide, let us consider that and, having considered it, let us put everyone on the same basis. If necessary, we can cut down the time.

Speaking as one who made his living out of such actions, I am against State actions. Such actions are no good to anybody for one does not get one's fees until the case is over.

I wonder if the Minister consulted with the executive officers of local authorities before he decided to introduce this Bill. The case as to why local authorities are in a different position from private individuals is one which could be argued with a good deal of justification. Possibly the period allowed at the present time during which a person can institute proceedings against local authorities is too short and needs to be extended. The Taoiseach adverted to one particular case where a private individual got the worst end of the stick. I take it that was a decision of our courts.

Does the Deputy not think an injustice was done?

Many an injustice is done to local authorities.

We will not weep any tears over that.

It is a well-known fact that when a local authority comes before the courts the feeling is that the decision will be given against the local authority all the time.

The Deputy is labouring under quite a misconception.

That is the feeling.

I was in practice in that matter, and it is quite the opposite.

The Taoiseach has said that local authorities are well able to bear it; that is the feeling. For that reason local authorities require some protection over and above that given to the private citizen. We know very vexatious actions have been taken against local authorities. The records of the courts show that. Both the Department of Local Government and the Department of Finance are intimately concerned in this matter. So are county managers and county secretaries throughout the country. I think the opinions of these rather important people should have been obtained. The Taoiseach, with his experience of the courts, and the Bar Council hold a certain view.

Experience of injustice—remember that!

But there is another side. Has the Taoiseach ever heard of a case of injustice against a local authority?

Never in my life, and I was nearly 40 years in the courts.

Such injustices are well-known facts. The administrative and executive officers of local authorities could cite many such cases. I am not pleading that the time should not be extended because I believe it should, but I want to emphasise that I think there is a difference as between local authorities and private individuals. Local authorities are fair game all the time. We know that quite well. Between now and the Committee Stage I suggest the Minister should seek the opinion and advice of the responsible officers of local authorities. I do not say local authorities may not have abused the Act on occasion, but it is our duty to be fair to all our citizens. We have to hold the scales as evenly as possible. That is the function of this House. I take it the Government had that in mind in introducing this Bill.

We had a debate on this matter before and the present Minister for Agriculture—then Deputy Dillon— introduced a Bill and expressed very strong views here in relation to it. Certain eminent Chancellors of the Exchequer in another Parliament were quoted. He regaled us with amusing episodes and incidents that took place in that Parliament. We were highly diverted on that occasion. Between now and the Committee Stage I appeal to the Minister to consult with the Minister for Local Government and the Minister for Finance and to obtain the views of the executive officers of local authorities throughout the country.

I propose to intervene very briefly in this debate. I did not intend to intervene until I heard Deputy Allen speak. I want to say now, as Minister for Local Government, that I am in full agreement with this Bill and I want to assure the Deputy that I was consulted prior to its introduction and am absolutely in full agreement with it.

I did not suggest that you were not.

From what I have heard of the debate, the House is in agreement that the Public Authorities (Protection) Act, 1893 should be repealed or amended. We all appear to be in agreement on that.

We are, yes.

Is not it a strange thing that it took until the year 1954 for us to realise this and we are here now trying to put local authorities on the same footing as the ordinary citizen of the State? That is all we are trying to do. If we think the Statute of Limitations makes the period in which action may be brought too long, that is a different day's work. It may be considered, as the Taoiseach said, and we may bring in amending legislation, as he said, and as we hope to do some time in the near future.

My colleague, Deputy Brennan, did express regard for local authorities in that proceedings may be instituted against them under the Workmen's Compensation Acts for injuries which a workman may have sustained a considerable period prior to the institution of the proceedings but this Bill has nothing whatever to do with the time limit under the Workmen's Compensation Acts. The Workmen's Compensation Acts have their own time limits for the institution of proceedings and anything we do by enacting the Bill before the House will not affect them.

Not only as Minister for Local Government but as a practising solicitor and as a solicitor to a local authority, I welcome the Bill.

I have consulted public bodies and I have been so long a member of public bodies that I do not like to refer to the length of time. I can assure the House that at the time this Act was brought in it was to protect public bodies against demands made upon them when the rates had been made. It was to give them protection and provided that action could not be brought against a public body after the rate had been made for six or eight months. I agree with the other speakers and with my predecessor that public bodies should not be given preferential treatment vis-á-vis the private citizen. I am glad the Opposition have accepted the principle. Deputy Boland has asked for time in which to put in amendments. Certainly, I am prepared to give any reasonable time for that if we pass the Second Reading now.

Question put and agreed to.
Committee Stage ordered for Wednesday, 3rd November, 1954.
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