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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 24 Nov 1954

Vol. 147 No. 7

Committee on Finance. - Alginate Industries (Ireland) Limited (Acquisition of Shares) Bill, 1954— Second and Subsequent Stages.

I move that the Bill be now read a Second Time. The purpose of this Bill is to enable the Minister for Lands to participate in a proposed increase of capital in Alginate Industries (Ireland) Limited.

Under the previous Act of 1949, which it is now proposed to amend, authority was given to acquire 5,100 shares of £1 each in this company, which is engaged in the drying and milling of sea-rods collected along the west coast. The remaining 4,900 shares are held by Alginate Industries, Limited, London, a company engaged in the extraction of alginates from various kinds of seaweed, including the dried and milled sea-rods sold to them by Alginate Industries (Ireland) Limited.

I am glad to be able to report to the House that since 1949, Alginate Industries (Ireland) Limited, has operated successfully at its factory in Connemara and has shown a modest profit each year. Of far more importance than this profit, however, is the contribution which this relatively small company has made towards the provision of steady and remunerative employment in one of the poorest districts in the Gaeltacht. A report on the working of the company has been submitted each year for the information of both Houses of the Oireachtas. The report on last year's operations shows that the company maintained full and continuous employment at its factory in Kilkerrin, County Galway, and that direct and indirect wages paid there amounted to over £8,000. In addition, locally produced turf to the value of over £4,000 was consumed, and then, of course, the sea-rods themselves, bought as they are in the poorest areas along the western seaboard, are a satisfying source of supplementary income where it is badly needed.

The company now proposes to expand its activities, first by improving its existing facilities for the drying and milling of sea-rods; secondly, by providing facilities for the purchase and preparation of carrageen for various markets; and, thirdly, by providing facilities for the production of seaweed meal for cattle-food. Additional capital will be required and this Bill seeks to authorise the expenditure of £37,900 on the purchase of shares in addition to the £5,100 already expended, making a total of £43,000, as set out in Section 2 of the Bill.

With regard to the first of the objectives I have mentioned, namely the improvement of the existing plant for the drying and milling of sea-rods, the company is satisfied as a result of the working experience of the last five years that more efficient and economic production can be achieved by effecting some changes in plant and lay-out at their factory in Kilkerrin. Several improvements have been made from time to time, including the installation of a Mona jet furnace and E.S.B. power supply. I am satisfied that the improved layout and the new plant now proposed will strengthen the position of the company as a supplier of rod-meal and that their proposals are prudent and desirable.

With regard to the proposal that the company should engage in the carrageen industry it will be necessary to give a brief review of the recent history of this industry. The quantity of carrageen harvested has been falling steadily in the last few years. In 1940, 1941 and 1942 this country exported an average quantity of 600 tons of carrageen per annum. In 1952, 1953 and 1954 the average quantity exported is estimated at less than 250 tons, and the tendency from year to year is downwards. My Department has had the position under close examination, and visits were made to France and the United States to study the organisation and development of the industry in these countries. Efforts were made to have exporters of carrageen cooperate in an association to safeguard the quality of moss for export, but I regret to say that the response received was poor. The Institute for Industrial Research and Standards was requested to develop a machine for the mechanical cleaning and grading of carrageen with a view to securing a general improvement in standard, and this machine was demonstrated to various firms and persons interested in the industry but, so far as I am aware, no one has yet proposed to install it.

The collection of carrageen moss can be a very useful means of augmenting the income of those living along the west coast, and the decline of the industry is a matter of concern. This is particularly so when investigations have disclosed that there is a ready market in America, Great Britain and the Continent provided that the purchasers can be assured of consistently high quality and regularity of supply. The lack of consistency in these matters has brought about a certain instability in the industry, which is reflected in the decline in the quantity harvested and exported. As carrageen moss is a raw material of great value, and as its collection depends on the maintenance of a tradition for the work along the western coast, it is clearly necessary that some steps should be taken to set a standard which will gain for Irish moss a high reputation in world markets and so bring about conditions of stability to encourage the gatherers and arrest the present heavy decline in interest among them. It is proposed, therefore, that Alginate Industries (Ireland), Limited, should equip themselves to handle and market carrageen moss to the best advantage, and I am satisfied that this step is both necessary and desirable. I am hopeful that as a result of the company's efforts there will be a revival of interest among gatherers and that the industry will be put on the right road to development.

Finally, the company also proposes to put itself in a position to produce seaweed meal for cattle-food. In the neighbourhood of its factory at Kilkerrin, Connemara, the company can draw from the richest beds of ascophyllum or bladderweed in the world, and this would undoubtedly be a welcome addition in income to the people of the area. The company has, in fact, in the last two years produced limited quantities of this meal by extemporary modifications to their sea-rod plant, and the entire production was sold abroad. The company is satisfied that there is a reasonable market on the Continent and elsewhere, and believes that with the installation of a suitable plant efficient and economic production could be achieved.

To summarise, the company is seeking additional capital to enable it— first to improve the operation of the existing sea-rod meal business; secondly to equip itself for the handling of carrageen moss, and thirdly to provide facilities for the production of seaweed meal for cattle-food. All three items relate to the development and use of native raw materials in parts of our country where natural resources are poor. The difficulties in the way of improving the economic situation of the people who have to make a livelihood in these areas are so great that it is all the more important that whatever resources are available should be developed to the full. The Bill now before the House seeks to authorise me to provide additional capital for the company for the purposes set out. Having regard to the excellent work of the company to date and the desirability of the further developments now proposed, I have no hesitation in recommending this Bill to the House.

Cuidimíd leis an Tairiscint atá curtha os comhair an Tí ag an Aire Tailte. Fé mar adeireann sé, gach rud atá bunaithe ar fháig áitiúil, is fiú é a chur chun cinn. Bhíomar foighdeach go dtí seo leis an tionscal atá bunaithe in gCill Chiaráin. Bhí a fhios againn nach raibh mórán dul chun cinn á dhéanamh ann. Is maith an rud é go bhfeiceann an tAire anois go bhfuil sé in am tabhairt faoin gceist arís. Bhí mé féin ag súil le tuilleadh eolais ón Aire mar gheall ar fheidhm a bhaint as feamainn seachas min a dhéanamh as. Ba mhaith liom, nuair a bheas an tAire ag cur deireadh leis an ndíospóireacht seo, go mbeadh ar a chumas tuilleadh eolais a thabhairt dúinn ar cad tá ar siúl thar lear in áiteanna go gcuirtear an fheamainn as Cill Chiaráin—féachaint an féidir linne, sa tír seo, feidhm a bhaint as na próiseanna céanna.

Mar gheall ar an gcarraigín, sin ábhar eile ina bhfuil sean-chleachtadh ag muintir an chósta le blianta. Go dtí seo, ar chuma ar bith, ní raibh mórán feidhm á bhaint as ach amháin chun críocha leighis, ag dochtúirí agus eile.

We welcome this Bill that the Minister has explained but there are certain points about which, personally, I should like to have got some information from him. We know that only certain elementary processes are carried out in Kilkerrin and that this partially processed product is sent across the sea. I understand that, mostly, it goes to Scotland for final processing. I wonder if it would be possible for the Minister to tell us, when he is replying, what these uses are to which Irish seaweed is put in foreign factories and what the prospects are of applying these processes in the factory at Kilkerrin and elsewhere if it is thought advisable to have further units around the coast. There are chemists who believe that a great deal more can be done here than we have attempted to do up to the present. I recognise that manufacturers who use the products produced from this processed seaweed must be taken into the reckoning and that their goodwill and co-operation must be got. However, it does seem to me that, very possibly, if the final processes to which this seaweed is subjected could be carried out in the Irish factory, we might be able to sell the fully processed weed at a cheaper price to the manufacturers who use it. That is a consideration which I think the Minister might take into account.

I do not expect him to give us precise information at this early stage, but I should like if he could indicate approximately what effect this further provision of capital will have on the question of employment: what additional employment will be given, and what, say, further demand will be created by this extension for the subsidiary products such as fuel to which he referred.

The proposal to do something for carrageen moss is also very welcome. Carrageen moss was for a long period, in the popular mind in any event, thought to be used only for certain medicinal purposes. I believe before the first World War it was used in Germany for industrial processes. It is not a matter of great concern to the carrageen gatherers for what purpose it is used provided there is a steady market and a reasonable price is obtainable for it. To the extent to which this factory will provide such a demand, this Bill is also to be welcomed.

This being a very highly technical undertaking the layman is at a disadvantage in discussing this Bill with any great degree of intelligence, but I have definitely gathered from certain people who have specialised knowledge that it is an industry that is worthy of further experimentation and further expenditure of money. I do not think there is anybody on this side of the House who will cavil or complain if these experiments do not succeed to the extent we all would like. The Minister can, therefore, be assured that whatever criticism he may receive from this side of the House on proposals such as are embodied in this Bill will be entirely constructive and will have no element at all of Party in them. I congratulate the Minister in his efforts in this respect and I hope they will be crowned with success. We agree to the Second Reading of this Bill.

I am afraid I was unable to be present when the Minister introduced the Bill, but being aware of the purpose of its introduction I can assure him that I welcome it. I trust that the money now being provided for the purposes of the acquisition of more shares in Alginate Industries will be used to expand this very valuable industry.

This is one aspect of administration in which in one sense being so technical and in another sense so essential changes of administration should not and, I think, do not have any effect on the progress of the alginate industry. Unfortunately, progress is all too slow largely because capital is very limited. Therefore, any provision for new capital that can be used in the expansion of the industry is something to be welcomed.

There are very many branches of the industry that can be developed, and I am sure the Minister mentioned them in the course of his introductory speech, but I would also like to urge on the Minister if at all possible to use this increased capital to make the harvesting of the crop more attractive. Some few months ago the Minister's representative went to America to investigate the method of harvesting they had there, and I believe reported favourably on the increased harvest that could be got by the employment of more up-to-date methods. Everybody knows that the saving of seaweed, no matter in what form, is a rather hard and certainly an unpleasant type of operation. Therefore, anything that would make it more pleasant and easy for the harvesters to gather in the seaweed would certainly inure to the benefit of the industry as a whole. I do not wish to delay the House any longer except to wish the Minister well in this expanding venture, and to wish Alginate Industries (Ireland) Limited, well. I hope that the employment that will accrue from this increased capital will be considerable, and will only be a prelude to further increased employment along the western seaboard.

I want to thank Deputy Bartley and Deputy Lynch for their message of goodwill in connection with the Bill. It will not be a cure for all the ills of the area but it will bring a certain amount of improvement. The Gaeltacht Services Division has reached the stage where they are advancing and making good progress and it is nice for any Minister for Lands, no matter what Party he belongs to, to be able to come into the House and report that, because in the years immediately following the war certain branches of Gaeltacht Services industry fell on evil days as a result of the world collapse of certain markets and of the upset caused by the war, over which nobody in this country had any control.

Deputy Bartley would like to know about the employment position. It is not easy to anticipate what the immediate employment will be but I do not think I am over-optimistic in saying that by the time the three branches— sea-rods, carrageen and ascophyllum— go into production as a result of the expansion proposed in this Bill, at least 20, but perhaps 25 to 30 extra labourers will be employed.

I will not hazard a guess as to what the extra amount of turf will be for this reason: we are burning about 2,000 tons a year at the present time in the course of the drying and milling of sea-rods and when it comes to the drying of carrageen I am not so sure that any fuel such as turf, coal or oil will be used. They might possibly leave a taint coming from the aroma of the drying carrageen which would be undesirable seeing that possibly the product will be used in some cases for human food and in other cases where the utmost cleanliness is desired.

I would like to inform the House what the position is regarding carrageen. In 1936, 216 tons were produced; in 1937, 396 tons; in 1938, 288 tons, and so on, reaching a peak period of 625 tons in 1942; then a steady decline set in in 1942 until the present time we are down to 202 tons. That is even lower than the 1936 figure. For that reason it is desirable for us to put our best foot forward and to make sure that the carrageen we process in Kilkerrin will reach the market in the most attractive and up-to-date condition in which we can turn it out. I am sorry to say that the industry as it has existed up to this is in a dying condition. It rose from 250 tons in 1936 to over 600 tons in 1942 and since then has been declining. I am not giving any reason for that although I could hazard a guess that failure in regard to clean handling and presentation in the most attractive condition is one of the major reasons for it. For that reason I cannot estimate as to what the increased turf consumption would be. I have not the slightest doubt that the drying of ascophyllum for cattle foods will cause an increase in the use of turf and that there will be some increase in the consumption of turf due to this Bill.

Deputy Bartley touched on another question when he said he would like to know if it is possible to do the final processing of sea-rods here. The position is roughly this—a product known to the commercial world as alginic acid is extracted from sea-rods. Its extraction is a complicated process and we have not got the secret of how it is produced commercially. It is a highly valuable commodity, I believe, but it appears that even in Europe there is only one firm, Alginates Limited, London, that has the secret of extracting it economically on a commercial basis. Small quantities could be extracted but not on an economic basis. I would like to see the day come when we would be able to do that work ourselves here but when I point out that our opposite number in England are purchasing all the sea-rods that can be gathered in Scotland and along the English coast as well as all we are producing here, it will show that even if we started a factory here we would be very limited as to quantity unless we were to go to Norway or the U.S. or somewhere else to purchase sea-rods and that would not be likely. I am afraid the quantity of raw material available would not be sufficient even if we had the secret. Nobody else in England or Western Europe seems to have the information and there is only one single alginate concern in the United States that I know of, making two in all, and these are the only two who have the secret of extracting alginic acid from the sea-rods economically.

So far as we are concerned the industry is working out satisfactorily and is a boon to the sea-rod gatherers along the west coast. The money we are able to pay them is a very welcome supplement to their ordinary earnings by fishing or on the land, or both. It is a thriving little industry and by adding carrageen moss and seaweed meal we hope to expand it to its fullest extent. Along the west coast there is a valuable crop of these three different kinds of seaweed and it is right to take advantage of them. So far there is no indication that there is the slightest risk in going ahead.

The time is ripe—if it is not slightly over-ripe—for digging deep into the other two kinds of seaweed. This is not a venture, because, as I already told the House, seaweed meal has been turned out by an improvised plant in Kilkerrin successfully and is being exported at a modest profit and there is no likelihood of a limit to that no matter how much we can handle— it seems there is a market for it in Europe particularly as an additional mixture to certain cattle feeds. It is very much in demand at prices which allow us to pay the gatherers reasonably.

Deputy J. Lynch mentioned the difficulties of harvesting the crop. I will see what can be done along these lines. I am aware that in some places where the seashore is steep or rocky the gatherers suffer a good deal perhaps having to drag the seaweed on their backs over the rocks to where it can be dried. I will see what can be done in that way by helping them out and perhaps providing paths or suitable tracks for a horse and cart, and also perhaps drying walls. In my own county, where I am familiar with some of the gathering areas, there are places where they are lucky to have a nice piece of shoreline but there are others where gatherers suffer very much. I will look into the Deputy's suggestion and see what can be done.

Question put and agreed to.
Agreed to take remaining stages now.
Bill passed through Committee, received for final consideration and passed.
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