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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 17 Jul 1958

Vol. 170 No. 6

Committee on Finance. - Vote 3—Department of the Taoiseach.

I move:—

That a sum not exceeding £17,930 be granted to complete the sum necessary to defray the Charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1959, for the Salaries and Expenses of the Department of the Taoiseach (No. 16 of 1924; No. 40 of 1937; No. 38 of 1938; and No. 24 of 1947).

In the figures themselves, I think there is nothing that calls for comment from me. The net reduction of £2,350 is, of course, in the main, due to the fact that we have no Parliamentary Secretary to the Government now.

As regards the position as a whole this booklet, the Statistical Survey, was published less than a fortnight ago and I am sure is in the hands of all Deputies. It gives the fundamental figures necessary for an appreciation of our economic situation as it was up to the end of the calendar year, 1957, and, to some extent, it gives the picture up to the end of the financial year to the end of March, 1958.

Perhaps I shall be permitted to use the occasion to express my appreciation of the work which is being done by our statistical office. I think we are as well served as any country that I know of, with the basic figures which enable a proper appreciation of our position to be made. Perhaps I might recall to Deputies the information that is made available, the main publications issued by the statistical office. Not merely have we this booklet which is, perhaps, the most important—it is very hard to say which is the most valuable, but this is certainly one of the most valuable of the publications issued—but there is also a corresponding publication which gives the trend of employment and unemployment; another giving wage rates, earnings and hours of work. These are issued generally once during the year. In addition, as Deputies who are interested—and I think every Deputy should be interested—know, we have monthly trade statistics: we get the quarterly indices of industry. We also get the Trade Journal and behind that we have the Statistical Abstract which enables us to get a comprehensive view of practically all the statistics. Then we have the annual volume of Trade and Shipping Statistics, so that anybody who wants to study our economic position has the material available.

In addition to the publications of the Statistics Office, we have the publications of the Central Bank, the quarterly bulletins and the annual report. Consequently, there is no excuse for anybody to speak without knowledge of the basic facts of our economy, of the figures that indicate them for us, and so on. This volume indicates that the year, 1957—which it mainly covers—was, as I have more than once described it, a year of economic recovery in many respects. The real national income increased; agricultural output increased. There was not a corresponding increase in industry: employment in manufacturing industry was slowly increasing; unemployment was slightly diminishing, although it still remains one of our most serious economic problems, if not the most serious economic problem.

Let me take the real national income or, to use what I think is the technical term, the gross national product at constant market prices. The story of that since the war years is that for some years before 1957, five or six years back, there was a steady average increase of about 1 per cent. a year. There was, however, a slight setback in 1950 when there was a rather small reduction, of about ? per cent. There was a more serious reduction in 1956 of about 1¼ per cent. In 1957, things began to look right again and there was an increase of about 1.8 per cent. on the previous year, so that once more the national income appears to be increasing. The loss of 1956 has been made good and the increase in 1957 shows that we are again on the right road, because there is no doubt that real national income is the best single indicator of the condition of the economy.

The principal item in the improvement was the increase in the volume of agricultural output of—I think— about 7.7 per cent. That is the gross output figure, taking into account the changes in live stock. That increase was the biggest recorded since the records have been kept and in fact the total output was also the largest recorded. From the agricultural point of view, that is undoubtedly satisfactory. What we must do, if we can, is see that the rate of increase continues or at any rate, see that it does not again show that our——

On a point of order, is it right for Deputy Haughey to read a newspaper during the Taoiseach's speech?

You do not blame him, do you?

Reading newspapers or books not relevant to the proceedings is not in order.

But I think——

The point of order is now decided.

The figure of 7.7 per cent. is satisfactory, particularly when one remembers that in the preceding year, there had been a fall.

Unfortunately, in manufacturing industries we have not got quite the same picture and there has not been the same amount of recovery. However, when you trace the history, you can see that there has been a considerable improvement. With the exception of the first quarter of 1956, you will find that in each quarter of that year there was a constant deterioration compared with the year before. That can be seen fairly readily if you note that the average for the whole year was a reduction of about 5 per cent. on the previous year while in the December quarter, the last quarter of the year, it was as much as 12 per cent. less than the previous corresponding quarter in the previous year. Although the average for the year was 5 per cent. it was an average which concealed a constant decline. To a certain extent that decline continued in 1957.

However, the decline tapered off last year. In September, output was only about 1 per cent. less than 12 months previously as compared with 7 per cent. at the beginning of the year. When you come to the December quarter, there was a definite improvement, an increase in output of about 9 per cent. That was continued into 1958, in the first quarter of which there was an improvement of about 7 per cent. Although the year 1957 averaged out at only the same as 1956, nevertheless the curve was upwards and the situation was improving. There was an improvement in the last quarter of 1957, and in the first quarter of this year, and I see no reason to believe that the improvement in the first quarter of this year was not continued on into the second quarter.

That gives us the main elements of the picture in regard to industry. It always happens with us that the changes in the volume of production in industry, and in manufacturing industry particularly, are not accompanied by corresponding changes in regard to employment, so the employment position has not improved as rapidly as the volume of production. There is however evidence of some improvement in the transportable goods industries, both in the last quarter of 1957 and the first quarter of this year.

The unemployment figures also show some improvement. I am not for one moment suggesting that these are satisfactory; they are far from it. One of the principal efforts of this Government has been to try to lay a foundation which will enable us to move ahead and improve opportunities for employment and provide a better standard of living for a greater number of our people. Before I leave unemployment, I should say that the latest figures seem to indicate that there are about 1,700 fewer on the live register than there were at the corresponding time last year. They are, however, still far greater than what they were before we experienced the disastrous year of 1956.

In regard to emigration, as I have said in reply to questions in the past, we have no definite figures on which we can absolutely rely, but any indications there are show that emigration is still running at a high level. When you have not got any accurate figures, anybody can stand up and say that the rate is 10,000 more than it was before, or 10,000 less than it was before. We have no means of knowing definitely what emigration is at present. The passenger balance figures, while unreliable on previous occasions, seemed to be fairly accurate for the period 1951-56, but one does not know how far there is a correspondence since 1956 between the passenger movements and emigration. There was certainly no such correspondence some years ago. However, the indications, in so far as we can get them, are that emigration is still running at a very high figure, and unemployment and emigration are the two evils towards the reduction of which our principal efforts must be directed.

The way to deal with it is to try with all possible effort and energy to build up industries to give employment of a permanent and lasting character, and to increase output generally. Everybody is ready, I think, to say that agriculture must form the basis of any prosperity we can attain. Hence the agricultural industry is the one to which we must look for the foundation from which prosperity is to come.

It is on that account that we were very happy to see the improvement in agricultural output last year. The fact that we are not immediately threatened by a deficit in our balance of payments gives us more room. The previous Government were hampered and restricted in their efforts by the situation they were endeavouring to deal with in 1956. We all admit that that was a situation which had to be dealt with, but the question was whether the methods used were actually the best. When we came into office, we felt that the situation with which we had to deal called for a loosening up on the restrictive measures and I believe the results proved that we were right.

Looking at the recent figures for external trading, we had, as you all know, a surplus last year of £9.2 millions on the whole balance of payments and that situation gives us considerable room for manoeuvre. Looking at the situation this year, we see that the first six months show that we are not likely to have anything like that situation at the end of this year. The first six months show that there has been an increase in imports of £7,500,000. That increase, of course, would follow naturally from the fact that there was a resurgence in industrial activity. It was, however, balanced to the extent of £1,500,000 by increased exports. That is a very encouraging feature of the trade in this half-year, that we did have an increase in our exports of £1,500,000 over what it was the year before.

The net result of that is that the deficit on our trading account in the first half of 1958 has been increased by £6,000,000, and that has caused some people to be unduly frightened, I think. Trying to look ahead, trying to anticipate what the possible changes may be as compared with the previous year, it does not look that we have anything really to fear. Our external assets, our reserves, are not immediately threatened. Our aim, of course, is not to build up foreign assets. Our aim is to use these assets as advantageously as possible, and to see that any increases, in particular, are used wisely in promoting further activities here, industrial activities at home. I do not think, therefore, that we need be unduly anxious about the £6,000,000 increase in the trade deficit in the first half of the year.

Even with the greatest care in trying to forecast, nobody can be absolutely certain about these things, but, if anything should appear to be going awry, we would have to take immediate action. At the moment, there does not appear to be any cause for anxiety. Keeping our main objective in mind, we should be able to look ahead and continue working as we have been, trying to increase industrial activities and trying generally to improve our economic conditions. There is no call at the moment for any restrictive efforts.

Our aim should be to balance external trade at a high rather than at a low level. If we can increase our exports to pay for imports, then a balance at a high level of imports and exports is much better than trying to balance them at a low level, and if we can increase our exports and production generally, then we should be in less danger. Our cattle population in 1956 was the highest ever.

Hear, hear!

What age were they?

It was no thanks to you.

Let us deal with facts as they are and, if we want afterwards to apportion praise or blame, let it be done. I am trying to start this debate on as realistic a basis as I can, and if we carry on on that basis, both sides of the House will be serving the country's interests. The fact is that in 1956 we had the highest number of cattle on record.

Hear, hear!

Though the figure was not quite so high in 1957 as it was in 1956, it was still one of the highest on record and, with the increase in milch cows, in in-calf heifers and young live stock, I think we have the material for adequately maintaining our exports in the future.

There is one factor which naturally causes a certain amount of anxiety in that regard, that is, the situation created by the need to go ahead rapidly with the campaign to get rid of tubercular cattle. That is essential. Whatever has to be done has to be done quickly, and it may have certain repercussions on exports. I am not quite sure how it will work out, but, at any rate, we have the material to maintain adequately our exports, unless something altogether unforeseen should occur.

There are, of course, quite a number of matters outside the economic sphere that naturally one would be tempted to discuss, but, if we range over the whole field, we will have an unsatisfactory debate. It seems to me it would be better that I should confine myself to the economic issue and to the economic side. It does not, however, altogether accord with my views that we should spend so much of our time as we do in dealing with purely economic and industrial matters, but we all have to admit, no matter what other important things there are in life, that a sound economy is necessary for proper living and therefore it is, from that point of view, not unnatural that we should spend the greater part of our time here discussing purely economic matters.

There are, of course, other questions of a national character, questions like the position with regard to Partition, foreign policy, education and a number of other matters which would naturally occupy a considerable portion of the thought of any Government which has the interests of the people at heart. We are naturally anxious about these matters and problems associated with them, and we are trying to get solutions for them. Some are outside our control, but the fact that I am not opening a debate on them—I do not know whether others may enter these fields—is not to be taken that I am not fully conscious of the importance of these problems and these issues.

We used to have a custom here in the past that the Opposition indicated what particular topics they wished to debate. We tried to follow that custom, but, in the nature of things, it was never closely adhered to and the result was that, despite the efforts of the Front Benches on both sides, the discussion, instead of keeping on the topics decided upon originally, ranged over the whole field. Though I should like that the discussion on this Estimate on Government policy as a whole, would, in the main, be confined to these issues I have traversed, the questions of economics, I suppose we will have incursions into the other domains as well, but I do not propose to anticipate them.

I move:—

That the Estimate be referred back for reconsideration.

I wish to express my own personal appreciation of the fact that the Taoiseach has continued the practice initiated some years ago of giving a sort of economic review, at the outset of the debate on the Taoiseach's Estimate, so as in some way to give an indication of the economic state of the nation and also, as he has just said, to give some direction as to the course along which the debate, which is largely dealing with general Government policy, should be conducted.

In the circumstances which confront us to-day, when we are here on this, one of the most important debates in the year, considering the past and future of our country, we cannot but be affected to the extent of feeling a certain oppressive anxiety about the very serious international development of recent days. We can only hope that those people charged with the serious responsibility of maintaining world peace and the Organisation of the United Nations to which we, as well as all other small independent nations look for protection against the terrible evils of war, will succeed in bringing about a situation whereby we shall not be confronted with an even worse conflagration than we had in our own lifetimes on at least two occasions.

This debate, as I have said, furnishes the opportunity annually of criticising and examining general Government policy. On this occasion it is of even more importance because it is the first time since the Government came into office that we can really see what Government policy is, or rather I should say we can try to ascertain if there is any general Government policy, what its results have been and where it is tending.

Last year, when this debate was in progress, we were in the position where the Government could only say they had not time to develop policy. In fact, of course, they were largely carrying out our policy during the few months following their entry into office and in the Dáil were putting through the Bills we had prepared. They have now had 12 clear months in which to formulate and at least put into operation to some extent the particular policy which they promised in the last general election would give such outstanding results if they were returned. They have had a full 12 months of complete leisure and complete freedom from anxiety of snap divisions or any disruption of affairs in the Dáil. They have now no alibi or excuse. Therefore, what we on this side of the House have to do is to try to ascertain from an examination of what has happened during the past 12 months if there is any general Government policy and, if so, what it is.

I endeavoured as far as possible to approach the matter quite objectively and I found myself, I think, engaged in an occupation which was somewhat analogous to the rather unrewarding effort of driving nails into a fog. I was unable to find any general principles. I will say there emerged within the past few months not a policy, not some general guiding principles directing any of the Government actions as a whole, but something in the nature of a pattern—a patchwork pattern, indeed—without any recognisable picture. I say again that I appreciate the manner in which the Taoiseach approached this Estimate in that he did not try to over-paint the picture and did not try to make it appear from the statistics or the figures available to him that conditions were better than they were or better than the statistics of the general economic trends would make them appear.

In the general economic picture that emerges during the past 12 months there are some good features and some bad features. There are gloomy spots and a few bright spots but, taking it as a whole, I do not think the Government are entitled to claim that any great achievement has been reached as a result of their efforts over the past 12 months. The Taoiseach gave certain general indications of the economic situation. I do not want to weary the House with statistics. I just want to indicate some of the features underlying what he said and proceed to examine the position as regards general Government policy in reference to those features.

It is true, as the Taoiseach says— fortunately it is true—that our agricultural exports are being maintained at a very, very satisfactory level and at remunerative prices. I do not think we could be blamed for claiming the credit, practically the entire credit, for that very satisfactory position. I do not think I am overstating the position when I say that the present Government have done no single thing to bring about that very satisfactory position. We have that situation at all events which is the most satisfactory factor in the whole of our economy at the present time.

The Taoiseach referred to the balance of payments figures issued in recent days. What saved those figures and what largely prevents any undue anxiety being felt in regard to those figures is the very satisfactory record, indeed, for our exports which are largely, of course, agricultural exports. That is a very, very bright feature in our situation.

The second feature to which the Taoiseach did not refer is that, in fact, bank loans and advances have increased in the past year but while they have increased, the figures show that there was only a very slight increase in loans to farmers and agriculture generally. The level is still below the figure in 1956 which was the beginning of a bad period. The external assets of the commercial banks increased considerably.

The Taoiseach referred to the fact that there was no anxiety about our external assets. In fact, the external assets of the banks increased in the past 27 months by practically £1,000,000 per month. The external assets of the Central Bank also increased.

There was a rather significant reduction in our import prices and a drop in freight rates. There was something approximating a 7 per cent. reduction in import prices. That, to us, seems to be a highly satisfactory feature because we had to face the situation, when we had to deal with the adverse balance of trade, that import prices and the terms of trade were running strongly against us. During the past 12 months import prices dropped nearly 7 per cent. and the terms of trade tended consistently to be in our favour.

From that very bright spot one would have expected that there would have been a greater increase in economic activity accordingly. Certainly, we would have expected that the reduction in import prices would have reflected itself in the cost of living to which I shall have to refer later on but it has not done so. State capital formation at current prices showed a slight increase last year over 1956, but taking it at 1953 prices, the figures indicate a decline over the past four years and that decline has, unfortunately, contributed to the aggravation of our unemployment position.

The Taoiseach referred to the increase in the national income which, I think, is something in the order of £90,000,000. That, however, was only an apparent increase because, in fact, when the matter is reduced to real values, there was a reduction of 2 per cent. in real output because the value of money went down by 6 per cent. last year. The Taoiseach also referred to the disappointing results from our industrial sector and rather equated the position to 1956. In fact, industrial production has not yet reached the figure at which it stood in that bad year of 1956.

Those are the only matters to which I want to refer at the moment, because I propose to deal with and to emphasise mostly the two problems of unemployment and its related problem of emigration and the cost of living in the course of the critical remarks I have to make to-day. Before I deal specifically with those two problems, I want to go back to the task I intended to set myself at the outset—to ascertain if there is any general Government policy. I can find none. As I said, I found merely a patchwork— something in the nature of a patchwork pattern—but no general recognisable picture.

I have always endeavoured, as far as possible, in speeches I have made criticising my opponents, to make constructive suggestions, as far as that lies within the scope of our duty as an Opposition. I want to refer back to the principles underlying the policy we had when we were in Government and which are still the basis and guiding principles of our policy here, subject to necessary reassessment and adjustment in the light of changing conditions. Beyond indicating the general principles, I do not feel called upon to make specific proposals. That is not within the scope of my duty at present.

I was glad to hear the Taoiseach say that the basis of all our prosperity must rest upon the agricultural industry. Those words created an echo in my mind. They are almost the words I used in the Taoiseach's Estimate I introduced in July, 1956. At column 1699, I described the agricultural industry as:—

"... the vital source and fundamental basis of whatever prosperity we have so far achieved or are, in future, likely to enjoy..."

And further on, towards the end of the same column, I said:—

"... It is to agriculture, primarily, we must look for that essential prerequisite of economic progress in our circumstances, an expanding volume of production from goods that are marketable abroad in quality and at prices competitive with similar goods offered by the producers of other countries."

That was the basis of our policy and it is still the basis of our policy. Even the Minister for Industry and Commerce, Deputy Lemass, who down through the years has not been very noticeably recognisable for his appreciation of the importance of agriculture in our economy, appears now to recognise the necessity for a proper basis of agricultural production on which to build a proper industrial edifice. Although lip service has been given in recent years to that vital principle, in fact nothing has been done by the present Government in the last 12 months to better the position or fully recognise that principle.

That was the very basis of our proposals. Because of that, we put as our first principle that we would place investment in agriculture over all other forms of investment. That is still our policy. We favoured and encouraged private investment to supplement and relieve the pressure on public investment. We favoured home investment rather than foreign investment—high investment in Ireland based on high savings. We encouraged all kinds of exports, not merely agricultural, and we gave incentives, which the present Government have developed, to secure greater and greater exports of nonagricultural products. We desired to achieve the results by co-operation rather than by compulsion.

Those were the principles, and supplemental thereto and coupled therewith, we had a policy for a capital programme of the highest amount comparable to our production and capacity for productive purposes. Those were our principles and are the principles governing our present policy. Having regard to the economic situation outlined by the Taoiseach, and slightly referred to by me just now, where is the policy to meet that situation?

I think it must be asserted that there can be no possible progress in business, nor can there be what the Taoiseach says is his primary object —the ending or betterment of the unemployment situation and the amelioration of emigration—unless we secure a reduction in taxation at the earliest possible moment. Business is bad; industry is not expanding; initiative is stifled—all because of the fact that taxation is too high. I know I am open to the charge that we were in office for three years and increased instead of reduced taxation. But in the first three years of our office, on two occasions we reduced taxation. It had been our intention and our aim so to develop conditions in the second year of our office on the last occasion as to be in a position to reduce taxation. Unfortunately, circumstances over which we had not any control—the economic blizzard that hit this country at the time—prevented us from achieving the purpose we set out to achieve. However it is to be done, there can be no possible progress in this country until taxation is decreased.

We all desire the greatest measure of social security. We all appreciate and are fully alive to the plight of the old age pensioners, the widows and orphans and those in receipt of unemployment assistance. There can be no hope of increasing social services until economic activity is so secure that there can be achieved the result we achieved in the first three years of our period of office and failed to achieve in the last period—that we can get from lower taxation a greater yield of revenue. That is the outstanding feature of our economy at present. We are far too heavily taxed, not merely business and industry and to some extent agriculture, but even those people who are finding it so hard to live—people on fixed incomes and with fixed salaries. Until there can be some decrease in taxation, there can be no hope of increased economic activity, without which it is hopeless to try to better the employment and emigration situation.

I have endeavoured to try to extract the general principles of Government policy. The Taoiseach says agriculture is the basis of our economy. Let us test that on the last 12 months. What has been done? We had difficulties that any Government, including the present Government, would have had to meet—we would have had to meet them, too—by reason of the extraordinary surplus of our butter products. That was a matter vitally affecting our farmers. The price of milk vitally affects them.

That situation was not approached in a realistic way. Instead, shortly before our Government had to meet the British Government with a view to coming to an arrangement to meet the attack on our economic position and on our markets in Great Britain —not merely regarding butter but which might affect others of our agricultural exports—when we had to meet that serious threat from our very well placed competitors, we decided in accordance with the policy of the Minister for Industry and Commerce to antagonise one of the most important sections of the business community in the City of London: the tea trade. That is not the way in which Government policy should operate.

The Taoiseach has said that we have not made any very great progress in industry. We have tried over the years—and I think the present Government have tried, too—to bring people into this country with their wealth, their scientific techniques and their business techniques, to expand our industry and bring wealth to the country. We have tried to get foreign capital; we have tried to get people from the United States of America to come into the country to help to develop our undeveloped resources by giving us their market resources and their techniques in business affairs. In this way, we hoped they would enable us to build up an export market and to give employment to our people. What is the use of asking those people to come in here? What is the use of trying to bring to their attention the attractiveness of this country from the point of view of investment, while at the same time we bring a Bill into this House, not to repeal the Control of Manufacturers Act, but to continue under a false name to control foreign manufactures when they come into this country. That is not the way to get wealth into the country from the United States of America to build up our industry.

Then we had the performance of the Minister for Agriculture regarding wheat prices and the Cereals Bill. I hesitate to pass any comment on any individual but I think his performance here was not in any way such—to put it at its highest possible level—as to engender confidence among the agricultural community in the agricultural policy of the Government.

Again, at a time when we were trying to increase our exports, trying to get people to help us by taking our exports, trying to get people from the United States of America to come in here with their money and with their knowledge, trying to get even our own people, our own kith and kin in America to take our goods, the produce of our manufacturing and agricultural industry into the United States, we proceeded by our foreign policy to affront our own people there and our friends in the United States of America.

That is, so far as I can see, the general Government policy. They have done nothing to increase agricultural exports, nothing to better the agricultural industry but, on the contrary, have put that industry into confusion and something amounting to despair and have given at least an indication of a reversal of the policy of Deputy Dillon and of the inter-Party Government of guaranteeing minimum prices to our farmers. That policy is steadily being eaten away and will probably disappear gradually. It is no wonder that we have had no increase in agricultural production. It is no wonder that the Taoiseach is not able to see any dramatic increase in employment or decrease in unemployment.

My primary purpose here to-day is to deal with unemployment and the cost of living. The Taoiseach did frankly admit, I think, that the situation, certainly the situation in regard to unemployment and emigration, is highly unsatisfactory. It is now 16 or 17 months since the change of Government. Of that period 12 months have elapsed during which this Government have had a clear majority in this House. They got from the elecorate in the last election what they asked: a strong Government with a clear majority. They have no worries from the parliamentary point of view, therefore. They have no alibis and no excuses. What have they done to justify the confidence placed in them by the electorate in the last general election, and, above all, what have they done to justify the hopes they deliberately held out of an immediate decrease in unemployment, if not an end to emigration?

The Taoiseach referred to the problem of emigration and I have the greatest sympathy with him in that. I have the greatest sympathy with this Government, or I would have if they had not acted before the change of Government in the way they did act in this House. If they had not carried on the propaganda they used during the general election, they would certainly have got my sympathy because I know what it is from personal experience to try to tackle the serious problems that face a Government in connection with unemployment and emigration. But from the Opposition side of the House for months before the change of Government every tactic that could be employed was used to discredit the efforts of myself and my colleagues when facing the serious situation that threatened the economic life of this country. The whole effort from every seat on this side of the House was directed at discrediting the Government, even at the expense of the nation itself.

In the course of the general election campaign, this is what Deputy Lemass, as he then was, said: "Unemployment and emigration are the acid tests of policy. A Fianna Fáil Government will measure the effectiveness of its work by these standards." That was held out to the electorate then by the man who is now Deputy Prime Minister. At that time, they were criticising us for the unemployment which unfortunately existed through no fault of ours. The electorate were told that unemployment existed because we were not able to carry on a capital programme to give employment for lack of the capital which we would have liked. That was not the fault of external conditions, they said, not the fault of the Suez situation, but the fault of the Coalition Government who could not make up their own minds and come to agreement as to policy. The electorate were told that if a strong Government were put back, if they kept out a Coalition Government, unemployment would be solved immediately and emigration tackled and solved in a very short space of time.

I have no objection to political Parties making whatever propaganda within the limits of Christian charity that will give them victory over their opponents, but what produced a very great tragedy and great damage to the country was the manner in which it was suggested in this House before the general election and then during the general election campaign that unemployment need not exist and that if only a strong Government were put into office, it would no longer exist. According to the chief spokesmen of the then chief Opposition Party who are now members of a Government with a clear majority, obtained as a result of that propaganda, unemployment is the acid test. I propose to apply that test acidly to Government policy this time.

Then, on another occasion, the same Deputy—now the Minister for Industry and Commerce and Deputy Prime Minister—said that the immediate task of Fianna Fáil would be to get work for the unemployed—"their immediate task". What would any unfortunate man, any unfortunate family, think, listening to a speech of that kind, but that, if Fianna Fáil were returned with their strong Government, their immediate job would be to end unemployment and that they could end it immediately. If there was any doubt about that, it was cleared up by another speech he made when he said: "The unemployed could not be expected to wait until long-term production plans brought them permanent benefit."

I propose to-day to test the Government policy on those declarations of the Deputy Prime Minister and to apply that acid test to Government policy. If the Fianna Fáil Party at that time, either from this side of the House or in the course of the general election campaign, had decently made the people aware of the real situation that confronted us, they would have said frankly that the situation was such that any Government would have been faced with a difficulty and problems almost insoluble at that time.

We had laid the foundations, when we left office, because of our handling of the balance of payments situation, for a very considerable expansion in the whole of our economy. We had given to the public—not through words but in writing—a well thought out policy for production to meet the situation we were about to meet after we had tackled and partially solved the very difficult problems that confronted us at the end of 1956 and the beginning of 1957.

According to Fianna Fáil, those problems were not world problems but were problems created because the Coalition Government could not agree amongst themselves. They had not long-term plans for unemployment but immediate plans to end it—and that is where the electorate were deceived. The unemployed man and the wife and family of an unemployed man know only that they have no money coming in to them, that they have no jobs. It is no comfort to them that their unemployment has been caused through international difficulties, through international upsets, through matters such as Suez, through matters such as the rise in terms of trade against us and the drop in the price of cattle due to the Argentine dumping of cattle on the British market at that time. The unemployed do not understand that. They know only that they have no money coming in to them.

When an attractive proposition was put up to the unemployed with the forcefulness of Deputy Lemass, and his apparent earnestness, they and many people throughout the country were convinced that if Fianna Fáil were returned with a clear majority, with no trouble about parliamentary instability, snap divisions, and so on, they had the remedy and the plans for the immediate solution of unemployment, emigration and other problems that afflicted the country.

We were told that unemployment is the acid test and that the unemployed could not be expected to wait until long-term production plans brought them permanent benefit. I could have some sympathy with the Fianna Fáil Government had they frankly recognised and stated to the public that no Government could solve the problem of unemployment overnight, that it required planning of at least some considerable duration, if it could not even be called long-term planning. I could have some sympathy with the Fianna Fáil Government if they had not secured their majority in this House largely—certainly in Dublin City and elsewhere in urban areas—because they held out those alluring prospects to the unfortunate people who were unemployed as a result of conditions impacting on this country over which no Government could have any control. They must now take the consequences.

This morning, the Taoiseach said that employment was increasing and unemployment slightly diminishing, but that it still remains our most serious economic problem. That is what they did not say 17 months ago at the general election. On that occasion, we were told by the Fianna Fáil Party that their immediate task would be to get work for the unemployed and that the unemployed could not be expected to wait until long-term production plans brought them permanent benefit.

The Minister for Health sneered at me when I spoke on the Taoiseach's Estimate on 25th July, 1956. The reference is column 1708 of the Official Report. I had spoken at that time on the very difficult and serious problem of emigration that was facing us and that would face any Government. I had also referred to a topic to which I hope to refer briefly to-day—the topic of the extraordinary disease of disillusionment and cynicism that afflicted the country. I had referred to the problem of emigration and, to a certain extent, I had analysed the report of the Commission on Emigration with a view to inviting all sides of the House to consider those problems as national problems and to give their contribution towards the ending of emigration.

Did I get co-operation from this side of the House at that time? I did not. Deputy MacEntee had this to say: "... it is the Government who have the responsibility for formulating a policy in regard to emigration...." He made that statement from these Opposition Benches. That is what he had to say from this side of the House when I asked for the co-operation of all sections of the House and of the people in dealing with the problem of emigration.

Seventeen months after this Government came into office, having denounced us for our failure to deal with the problems of emigration and unemployment, they come in here and, on the first occasion on which we have an opportunity of seeing their policy in regard to emigration and unemployment, all that the Taoiseach can say is that there is a slight decrease in unemployment, a slight increase in employment and that the problem of emigration is still the gravest problem we have to face. He has not uttered a single word about any plan for ending unemployment or emigration.

I do not believe in those plans or those declarations that a particular Government or a particular Party has the entire prerogative and all the answers to all the questions for dealing with our national problems of unemployment and emigration. The present Government said they had those plans. They said they had immediate plans for an immediate ending to unemployment. The position is now that the Taoiseach has sat down without giving the slightest indication of any plan for ending unemployment or emigration.

He has stated that there has been a slight decrease in unemployment and a slight increase in employment. The actual position, according to official figures from the Central Statistics Office issued on the 10th July, 1958, is that the total number of unemployed on the register on that date was 52,971. That shows a decrease over the figures for the corresponding month of last year of 1,746. After a period of 15 or 16 months in office, does that justify what members of the Government said when seeking and getting the votes of the people—"to give immediate benefit to the unemployed, to carry out the immediate task to get work for the unemployed, that the unemployed could not be expected to wait until long term production plans brought them permanent benefit"? That is the best they have been able to do, after the lapse of nearly one-third of their possible period of office.

That is not the whole of the story. Although there has been what the Taoiseach described as a slight reduction in the unemployment figures this year as compared with last year, they have not yet come down to the figure for unemployment in 1956, when times were beginning to be bad with us. At that time of the year, in 1956—and recollect that that was the year in which all the troubles descended upon us— the figure for unemployment was 49,297. The figure at the present time, after the Government has been in office for nearly one-third of its posis 52,971, after they had promised immediate relief for the unemployed without any long term production plans.

The Taoiseach said there was some increase in employment. The figures he gave yesterday, I think, do not bear that out. The figures he gave in the House yesterday, taking the employment equivalent of insurance stamps sold in the year 1955, show the number of people in employment as 496,300. In 1956, the year when things were getting bad, the number was 498,500. In 1957, Fianna Fáil's first year of office, it was 463,100, that is to say, some 33,000 fewer in employment at the present time than there were in 1955 and 35,000 fewer than in the year 1956, the bad year. That is what the Government has done, as the result of its 16 or 17 months in office. That is the acid test. Applying that acid test, is there any justification whatever for the Government deluding the electorate, as they did during the general election and in the months prior to it?

That is not the whole story, because these figures have to be taken in the context of emigration. The Taoiseach frankly admitted that emigration was still running at a very high level. Figures were given in the British House of Commons on the 7th July, 1958, a few days ago. Those figures give the number of people who applied for the first time for National Health Insurance cards from the Republic. Those figures were for the year 1956, 57,480; and that was our bad year. This House still rings with the denunciation from these benches of "the bad, bold Coalition Government that had sent our people abroad to England and elsewhere because they were unable to be a strong Government and agree upon a policy". The country still rings with the denunciations similarly made. Everything was to be good, if the present Government got back, as they got back, with a clear majority, as a "strong" Government; and look at the result. In their first year, 1957, 58,672—an increase of approximately 1,200 on the previous year—and in the first five months of this year, 19,013 people have gone. That is unemployment, taken in the context of emigration.

The context in which it is really to be taken is the demoralisation which has been produced in the country by the fact that the people were led to believe that there would be an immediate decrease in unemployment and an immediate increase in employment.

Nobody could believe that, of course, who had any experience of Government, but, as I said before, unemployed people have no experience of Government, of politics, external assets or anything of that kind. They were deluded into that and the present Government must now take the consequences.

I listened for a few moments this morning to the Minister for Local Government, unable to prevent himself from indulging in a gibe against the last Government, even at this late stage and in spite of facts brought out again and again. The Department of Local Government during our time, had so reduced matters, he said, that he had to start from the ground floor up. I remember the denunciation that came from this bench, from Deputy Briscoe, about our failure to give money for housing in the country, and particularly in the City of Dublin, and especially our failure to give money for the Small Dwellings Acquisition Acts loans.

I felt at that time, as head of the then Government, that the Minister for Finance had treated me and treated the Corporation of Dublin generously, at a time when it was impossible to get money, even for productive purposes, when we were able to give the Corporation of Dublin precisely the same amount in that particular year as had been given in the previous year, when money was not so scarce, and when we insisted, and the Minister for Finance insisted, that they were not given that money unless they were giving sufficient money for the Small Dwellings Acquisition Act loans. We were crippled as a Government by Deputy Briscoe denouncing us here in this House at every opportunity and at the Dublin Corporation meetings, for what he said was our failure to give money for housing for the City of Dublin. The money was there, but it was prevented from being spent by the machinations of Deputy Briscoe in order to obtain kudos for himself and bring political discredit upon us.

When I heard Deputy Norton, on the Budget debate, recording the effect of the Budget on thousands of our skilled craftsmen in the building trade, on builders' labourers, plasterers and the rest who had left the country last year because there was no building work, it was certainly some satisfaction to me to know that, for the first time in the history of the country, when we were in office in our first inter-Party Government, building workers came back to work here in Ireland to build houses for Irish people. I was sent on the Radio by my colleagues at that time to ask them to come back; and the plasterers, carpenters, craftsmen and builders' labourers consequently came back. During that first period of the inter-Party Government, we reached the nearest figure to full employment ever reached in this country.

In the worst time that ever hit this country, during the year 1956 and the beginning of 1957, we gave the Dublin Corporation—and, so far as we could, every local authority—the fullest amount of money available, but we were crippled by the deliberate efforts to prevent people from getting loans and from building houses. I understand that there are still some restrictions upon the building industry here in this country—certainly, in the City of Dublin and in County Dublin. I want to suggest that there should be taken off the Small Dwellings Acquisition Acts procedure any restrictions whatever, so that these people who should be entitled to get the benefit of that very advantageous procedure should get it without restriction. That will give a stimulus to the building industry and enable employment to be increased in the cities of Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Waterford.

I want to speak about the cost of living. The Taoiseach did not refer to it. I do not propose to go back over the old story of the promises made by the Taoiseach and the Minister for Industry and Commerce in regard to not removing the food subsidies. I propose merely to draw attention to the very serious position that arises from that. I have already referred to the necessity for reducing taxation. The whole history of Fianna Fáil has been one of an increase of taxation and not of reducing it. We reduced taxation twice during our period of office but I cannot recall any occasion on which Fianna Fáil reduced taxation.

Their record as regards the cost of living is precisely the same. The position we are in, and the position that section of the community who can least bear it is in, is a direct result of the deliberate Fianna Fáil policy of increasing the cost of the necessaries of life. The Budget of 1952 has spread its evil results to the economy of this country to the present day. The Budget of 1957, in which the food subsidies were withdrawn, is still doing its fell work in preventing the cost of living from being maintained at a stable figure and in preventing economic activity.

I have already adverted to the fact that import prices fell by nearly 7 per cent. in the past 12 months and that the terms of trade were in our favour. It would have been proper to expect that those favourable conditions would have reflected themselves in a reduction in the cost of living. So far from doing that and so far from there being any stabilisation in the cost of living, the last figures, published in June, the figures published in the last few weeks, show a further increase of two points in the cost of living. In the past year, as a whole, the cost of living has increased by eight points and in the food group alone, the cost of living has increased by 13 points.

Since 1950, the cost of living has risen by 46 points. In other words, the value of money has gone down by nearly 50 per cent. That is the result of Fianna Fáil policy. Whatever may be said about us during our term of office, the fact is that we spent ourselves, and used every device available to us, and subjected ourselves to the innuendoes, frequently fraudulent, that came from Fianna Fáil when they were on these benches in our efforts to keep down the cost of living. In our last three years, the most difficult period of all, the cost of living went up by only three points. That cost of living went up because of circumstances beyond our control, because at that time import prices were rising and our export prices were falling. During that time, and as a result of our efforts to keep down the cost of living, our balance of payments went into imbalance.

All our efforts went into keeping down the cost of living and it went up only two points as a result of the very serious difficulties with which we were faced. It has gone up since 1950 by 46 points and during most of that time the present Government had control. Deputy MacEntee was responsible for the 1952 Budget and Deputy Dr. Ryan was responsible for the 1957 Budget. As a result of their activities and their actions, the cost of living went up by 46 points.

I suppose I should retract what I said in the beginning that there was no general policy. There appears to be the general principle activating Fianna Fáil that food prices should go up. Deputy MacEntee, in 1952, said that his view was that there was no longer any need for food subsidies and in 1957, the food subsidies were wiped out. It would have been expected that the effect of the withdrawal of the food subsidies in the Budget of May, 1957, would have worked itself out of the economy of the country by this time. However, in spite of that, in the June quarter, the cost of living went up by two points and the Government made no effort to control the cost of living.

It does not need any great oratorical effort on my part to paint the picture of the effect of that on the sections of the community least able to bear it, on the old age pensioners and the unemployed. In addition to that, small business people throughout the country are feeling the effects of it. Those living on limited incomes are now reaching the verge of impossibility of maintaining themselves in decency. Those living on fixed incomes have not got any adequate compensation to equate the loss they sustained as a result of the withdrawal of the food subsidies.

Deputy Dillon has again and again drawn attention to the fact that the cost of living impacts on the farming community also. It is true that some effort had been made to give industrial workers and others, such as State servants, a little, but not adequate, compensation to clear them for the increased cost of living; but the farming community, in addition to having to face the impact of the cost of living, have also had to face the impact of falling prices. I do not see how the Government can, with any degree of satisfaction, face that situation and it is no wonder that the Taoiseach did not refer to it in the course of his opening remarks.

I referred earlier to-day to our foreign policy. I want to occupy the House for a brief period to deal with the impact of our foreign policy, not in connection with our security, but in connection with our economy. I have repudiated again and again those people who say that we are spending too much on our Department of External Affairs and that those very efficient officers in the Department who are working abroad on behalf of this country are wasting their time at cocktail parties. For 700 years, this country sought recognition as a nation and one of the marks of nationhood is the right of legation.

I want to deal with the impact of our foreign policy on our material affairs. I want to refer to the fact that our people, belonging to a Christian, and largely a Catholic, country, having secured our nationhood, and by the intervention of Providence, having been saved from two terrible wars, have a duty to our less fortunate neighbours in Europe and elsewhere. While we have a chance, as we have a chance, in the United Nations of doing our part in an independent way as an independent nation, not tied to the tail of any big nation or any small nation, we ought to do our duty without looking for material rewards as a result of it. But, looking at it even from the point of view of materialism, you will not get countries to take our goods, you will not get people of other nations to come in here and help us to develop our country or help our manufacturing industries if we do not do our duty in matters of international affairs and help them in the international difficulties that are confronting them at the present time. Some of the big nations are bearing the most intolerable burdens, wasting their material and wealth and the lives of their people in defence of peace.

One of the reasons we cannot get in foreign capital is the fact that we are branded as isolationists and have not done what we ought to have done, given as good a contribution as possible towards helping those countries who are bearing the burden of preserving peace in the world. The foreign policy, or the lack of foreign policy, of the Government is to a considerable extent responsible for that.

I have briefly referred and again only briefly refer to what occurred last year at the United Nations. We were unable to extract from the Minister for External Affairs during the debate on the Estimate for the Department of External Affairs any indication whatever that he had any foreign policy. So that, the position we find at the present moment is that we do not know and the country does not know what is Government policy as regards our foreign affairs but we do know that, as a result of the step taken by the Minister for External Affairs last summer, our traditional friends in America, our own kith and kin there as well as those other people who are very favourably disposed to us, were outraged at the attitude that was taken up at that time.

Not at all. That is true.

There can be no dispute about that.

There is dispute.

I assert it at all events and the Taoiseach can answer it in his reply. We have evidence and abundant evidence of that. This is the thesis that I make here to-day—that our foreign policy impacts upon our material interests and that, if we do not make friends with nations in international affairs, when we want something done we shall not have the friends to help us to get it done. Anyone who has had experience of international matters will know that the way foreign affairs are carried on in international conferences is that one nation does a good turn for another and later on that nation does another good turn. I had experience of that as far back as the time of my attendance in Geneva during the Assembly of the League of Nations. Our representative at that time, above all people, had done some good turn for Japan. The first person that waited upon me as I was leading the delegation in the assembly of the League of Nations at that time, after the murder of Kevin O'Higgins, was the representative of Japan who remembered that our representatives had done a good turn for him in the League of Nations affairs.

The last matter that I want to refer to is one of very considerable importance. I mentioned it casually while I was speaking on the Taoiseach's Estimate in July, 1956, the last Taoiseach's Estimate that I introduced into this House. I took occasion to refer to the queer kind of infectious disease that appeared to be spreading through the country at that time—disillusionment and cynicism—and said that there was a growing tendency to say and to assert that nothing had been achieved by any Government or by successive Governments—to use that loathsome phrase so beloved by people who do not want to take up an attitude for or against a Government —that nothing had been achieved by successive Governments over the last 35 years. I controverted those propositions and I tried to cure that disease so far as lay in my power.

On every occasion that I got, in this House and outside the House, I spoke against that tendency and gave proof of my faith in the country and my confidence in the future of the country. There are people still doing it. I do not wish to go over that ground again because, as a matter of fact, I thought I saw signs that the disease was wearing itself out but, unfortunately, it got a new life by the kind of results that have come about as a consequence of the Fianna Fáil promises and the failure to fulfil those promises after the last general election.

There is still, unfortunately, this mood of a slightly different character from the kind I was speaking about in July, 1956. It is now rather a mood, not of cynicism or disillusionment, but of complete indifference to our democratic institutions and to the rulers of this State, a far more dangerous mood than even the mood of disillusionment and cynicism. That has been brought about, in my submission to this House and in my clear conviction, by the failure of the Government to carry out what they said they would carry out when they were seeking the votes of the people.

There are people who are still saying that nothing has been achieved in the last 35 years. I have dealt with that matter again and again. The allegation can be so easily refuted that it is not necessary for me to do it again. There are people who still say that nothing has been done and still preaching the doctrine of lack of faith in the future of the country.

I am glad to see that His Eminence the Cardinal has drawn attention to the evil of that kind of talk and to the necessity for avoiding it. Because I knew my own words would not carry so much conviction to those people who are making these allegations and helping to spread this evil of cynicism, disillusionment and indifference, without giving one single piece of constructive suggestion to back their destructive criticism, I quoted the words of the Pope, so that they might carry conviction with those who would not be convinced by what I said. I repeat them now, from column 1703, Volume 159, No. 10 of the Official Report. His Holiness expressed his disapproval:

"... of those who see what is still lacking, what has not yet been fully achieved, and readily lend an ear to the whisperings of those sowing discontent. They close their eyes to much already accomplished in the enrichment of the social and economic order, which they, too, profit by, advantages frequently obtained through exhausting labour to overcome unsurmountable obstacles."

I am dealing to-day, not so much with what was being dealt with in that message and which I have dealt with in previous speeches, but with that curious mood of indifference that has existed in the last few months. Business is bad in this city. It has never been worse. Business is bad in the country towns and provincial centres. Business has never been worse. We might have expected that it would be better. It is possible that the explanation is that so many people have emigrated from the urban areas that it has prejudicially affected business in towns and cities but, at all events, business is bad. Even the Taoiseach was not able to put a good front on the unemployment and emigration situation this morning.

People remember what was held out to them in the last general election. I have already quoted and requote "Fianna Fáil's immediate task will be to get work for the unemployed and the unemployed could not be expected to wait until long term production brought them permanent benefit". For some curious reason the electorate at the last general election, suffering, I suppose, from the unfortunate results that had accrued from the economic blizzard that hit this country in 1956-57, thought that if there was only a change of Government and a Government with a clear majority, there was no reason why the promises that were then held out would not be fulfilled without waiting for a long-term plan.

Deputy MacEntee said that it was the duty of the Government to furnish plans for the ending of emigration and unemployment. The people thought they had those plans for the ending of unemployment and emigration and the stimulation of economic activity. After a lapse of 15 or 16 months, and during a complete 12 months the Government had their own time to plan their own policies, and the people thought they had something to offer. They are disillusioned and they have not even the energy to denounce the Government or denounce Parliament. They are completely indifferent. It would be far less dangerous and considerably less frightening if the people were discussing politics heatedly in the places where they discuss these matters. They realise that nothing has been got from the Government or from Parliament, and they are saying: "They are all the same. Nobody has done anything."

That is a dangerous mood not because it threatens the life of the present Government but because it threatens the life of our parliamentary institutions. I am bound to say and put on record that the conduct of the Fianna Fáil Party in this House since they obtained their clear majority has done nothing to dispose of that mood of indifference towards democratic institutions and bring respect for parliamentary institutions, but has done the contrary. So far as I can see over the past 15 months the members of the Fianna Fáil Party have regarded themselves as mere individuals for walking into the Division Lobbies. There has been little interest in parliamentary proceedings. The Dáil has become nothing but an instrument for registering Government opinion.

It is no wonder, therefore, that this dangerous mood of indifference exists —dangerous from the point of view of the continuance of our parliamentary institutions. It has become widespread but I assert again my own conviction that it is something that can be remedied and should be remedied by the present Government. I give again the conviction I have given—my own faith in the future of the country and in its economic stability and in the possibility of bringing about a situation where at least, not great wealth but sufficient employment for our people at decent standards and in a decent way of life, will be achieved. It can and ought to be achieved.

The Government ought to take upon itself the task and the duty of dissipating this mood of indifference and cynicism. To the best of my knowledge I have not heard one speech from any Minister of the Government or any back-bencher endeavouring to dissipate that mood of cynicism and disillusionment. The Taoiseach did, I think, make a speech in Clare a few weeks ago in which he did admit and recognise that the Opposition was doing its duty in Parliament. However, there has been no effort on the part of the Government to dispel this dangerous mood of indifference.

It requires courage, knowledge and skill to work parliamentary institutions. The Irish people fought to achieve these institutions over a long number of years. They are in danger now unless we all co-operate to make our own people respect our institutions. That can be achieved and it ought to be achieved. The first requirement is that the members of the Fianna Fáil Party and back-benchers in this House should respect the House. Government Ministers occupying key positions, such as the portfolio of Agriculture should not openly read newspapers in Parliament when a former Minister for Agriculture is making a serious speech on a very vital topic for the agricultural community.

I want to conclude by expressing again the conviction after fairly objective examination over the last 12 months that this Government has no direction in its policy, that it is a boat travelling without direction and without rudders. There is no general Government policy that I can see and, testing them by the test which they imposed upon themselves in relation to emigration and unemployment, they have failed after a lapse of nearly one-third of the period which they hope to enjoy as the Government.

This Government has been in office now for about 16 months, and the Taoiseach's Estimate provides an opportunity for reviewing the work of the Government over that period. It provides an opportunity, too, for ascertaining the manner in which the Government have kept the promises which they made to the people not merely down through the years but especially at the last election. On the other hand, it provides the Government with an opportunity of indicating to the nation what they propose to do not merely to redeem the promises they made but to offer the people some hope, even some glimmer of hope, that the vital problems which press with such rigour and vigour upon the people will be tackled in a manner that offers some solution in a comparatively short period of time.

The Government used to have a recipe for all these difficulties and ills. Probably the easiest one to refer to is the recipe offered to the nation by the present Minister for External Affairs to the people in this House on the 17th January, 1941. The then Minister, Deputy Aiken said: "We are not helpless if we use our brains. The Lord has given us resources and we have the means at the moment, so that even if every damn ship were at the bottom of the sea we could have twice as high a standard of living in a few years". There was the world shattering pronouncement by the present Minister for External Affairs.

It does not matter a damn, he said, if every ship were at the bottom of the sea. We must remember that speech was made at a time when ships were as valuable as goldmines—in 1941. But to Deputy Aiken, that did not matter at all. Once we used our brains—no doubt he meant, his brains—we could have a standard of living twice as high. That was 17 years ago, and one is entitled to ask the Taoiseach why he has not applied this remedy so glibly offered by his Minister for External Affairs to find the solution of the problems which must now impact seriously on the Taoiseach's conscience having regard to the promises made by the Fianna Fáil Party, especially at the last general election.

What were the Government's promises then? Nobody can deny this Government flooded the country with promises that if they were returned to power they would solve the unemployment problem. Their posters appealed to women voters to come out and vote so that their husbands could be put back to work. Their speeches appealed to people to vote so that emigration could be arrested and the people retained at home to find a living in their own land. What has been the Government's record over the past 15 or 16 months? What has been the record of the Government which 17 years ago said: "All we have to do is to sink the ships, use our brains and we shall double our standard of living in a few years?" What has been the record of the Government that used these posters with such beneficial deception, so far as they were concerned, during the last election?

Let us look at the figures issued by the Taoiseach's own Department, the Central Statistics Office. These figures show that on the 5th July this year, the latest date for which the figures are available there were 52,971 registered as unemployed. At the same time last year there were 54,733 so that after the operation of the "get cracking" policy over 16 months the net effect of the Government's activity has been to reduce on paper—and I say "on paper" advisedly—the number of unemployed over a period of 12 months by 1,766 persons. If we look at the figures for the same date in 1956, the year in which we had to deal with an economic blizzard, the year for which the inter-Party Government was blamed, we find the number of unemployed was 49,297. In other words in 1956, the preceding year and probably one of the worst years this country had experienced for a long time, there were 5,440 less persons unemployed as compared with July, 1958, the year of the so-called Fianna Fáil recovery.

When one remembers that during the past 12 months we have had unprecedented emigration—the craftsmen especially in the building trade have been forced to emigrate in such large numbers that the British Ministry of National Insurance states that in one 12-month period they issued 58,000 new cards to Irish emigrants—one gets some picture of how serious the unemployment position would have been to-day were it not for the mass, unprecedented emigration of the past 12 months. This is happening under a Government that told us it had a remedy for unemployment and that covenanted with the people at the last election that if they removed the inter-Party Government from office Fianna Fáil would find a solution to the problem of unemployment.

This is an opportunity to ask the Government what does it propose to do even at this stage to implement the promises which it then made. What does the Government intend to do now to redeem the promises which they gave as the price of securing office at the last general election? This Government, of course, is probably the most expert Government anywhere in giving promises on the subject of unemployment. I have here a few cuttings of past promises made by the Fianna Fáil Party, past promises made by the present Taoiseach, and some of them are now well worthy of quotation, especially since a long period has elapsed during which the Government, if it were serious, could have implemented the promises which they then made with such facility.

A Fianna Fáil advertisement published in the General Election of 1933, contained this positive assertion: "Fianna Fáil will abolish unemployment." That was the promise. If one wishes to see what Deputy de Valera had to say one finds that he said in the Dáil on December 2, 1931:—

"I have time after time said that in my belief the solution of unemployment is easier to find in this country at this moment than it is in any other country facing that problem...If we make up our minds to apply the remedy we have the remedy.... It is a question of organisation and of proper lead from the Government."

In the following year Deputy de Valera was in office, in 1932. He remained there until 1948—16 years. Those of us who lived through those 16 years know only too well the manner in which the Government gave a proper lead and the manner in which they evolved an organisation to deal with the problem of unemployment which, according to their advertisements, Fianna Fáil could abolish.

In 1932 Deputy de Valera took office. Here was his political bible:—

"I am quite willing to admit that one of the principal things we were elected to do was to try to deal with the unemployment problem. We are quite willing to do it and we stand or fall by our ability to do that work or not to do it."

Deputy de Valera must now feel himself unsinkable because, not withstanding the fact that the problem remains with all its old-time viciousness, all its old-time wickedness, the Government Party still say they can solve unemployment.

Here is one of the ways Deputy de Valera was going to do it:—

"I want to repeat," he said, "what I said outside. I said that looking around the world and trying to understand what were the causes of unemployment in different countries, I came to the conclusion that there was less reason for unemployment in this country than in any country of which I know."

He said that having scanned the world and appraised the situation throughout the entire globe, he had come to the conclusion that it was easier to solve unemployment here than in any country he knew. He went on to say:—

"It may be that under the present system we cannot do the full work we would like to do, but we are going to try. I am going to say this, that if I try within the system, as it stands, and fail then I will try to go outside the system and I will go to the country and I will ask them to support me to go outside the system."

Did anybody ever hear a request from the Taoiseach to go outside the system so that he could apply this magician's wand to the problem of unemployment, and solve it as he and his Party promised to do? Another statement which he made was:—

"Our purpose as a Government is to see that these burdens rest heaviest on the shoulders of people who are best able to bear them."

We can see that, with the generous way the Master Bakers were dealt with recently, and the way the dance-hall proprietors were dealt with by the Taoiseach and the Government. We can now see how the Government have dragged their anchors since that speech in 1932.

I could go on but there is no need to convince the Taoiseach at least, to suspect that, in fact, he did make some promises. I have no doubt he will do his best to say they were made in a context which justifies his not having done anything about them between then and now. I have no doubt the Taoiseach will try to put a face on this and better still, he will regard you as dull witted if you do not understand the face he puts on it.

He was not alone in these matters. His Minister for Industry and Commerce, Deputy Lemass, at a meeting of the Fianna Fáil Party in the Red Bank Restaurant, on the 23rd January, 1940, said:—

"It was necessary to stress the urgency of the problems arising out of unemployment. If it persisted our economic system could not survive. There were, obviously, major defects in their methods of commercial organisation or their financial system if they were unable to provide an adequate livelihood for every man willing to work. If within the limits of the present system they could not cope with unemployment then the system must be changed."

These are all brave words, positive promises made by people whom the electorate have the right to regard as responsible. Yet, though they have been made down through the years, no single, serious effort has been made to deal with the problem by those who made these promises in a way that offers any hope of a solution. Can we be told now what is the Government policy? Can we get an up-to-date version of the Government's plans for relieving unemployment? Can we get something more than the generalities of yesteryear and some indication that the Government intend, in some positive way, to tackle the problem of unemployment in a manner that will give hope that within this generation we may see the problem, not abolished, which would be a difficult job to do, but at least brought down to more manageable proportions than as it exists to-day?

Is it any wonder that our unemployment problem is so serious to-day? Is it any wonder that there is no evidence on the horizon that the problem is being tackled with vigour? Questions put down in this House during the past 12 months have elicited the fact that fewer people were employed on road works during the last year than two years ago; that there were fewer people employed in forestry work; fewer people employed in rural electrification work fewer people employed on drainage work and that, so far as housing is concerned, it has virtually come to a standstill.

I quote here, for corroboration, a statement made on the 6th June by the Administrative Officer of the Provisional United Trade Union Organisation, at an interview which representatives of that organisation had with the Minister for Industry and Commerce, as reported in the third report of the Provisional United Trade Union Organisation. The Administrative Officer, Mr. Crawford, is reported as referring to the position of the building trade and the pointed out that:—

"The collapse of the industry had been responsible for most of the heavy unemployment that had been experienced in recent years. Most of this unemployment was in Dublin where there was still considerable need for new housing. In addition, he asked what steps were being taken to use the resources of the building industry for hospital and school building. He pointed out that at the height of the building boom in one skilled union only one-fifth of their members were employed on housing."

He complained that the virtual collapse of the industry has brought about heavy unemployment in Dublin and of course, as many building trade unions have acknowledged in recent months, there has been a heavy exodus of their members seeking employment across-Channel, while large numbers of their members are also unemployed, waiting impatiently for any break in a situation which for many months past has constituted a picture of unrelieved gloom.

Can we get now from the Taoiseach any indication as to what the Government proposes to do in regard to finding employment for building trade workers? We still need schools. We still need houses and many parts of this city are still a reflection on us. Many people are still living in over-crowded conditions, in rat-infested warrens. In this situation it seems nothing short of economic lunacy that at a time when people are living in these festering slums there should be men, who are able to build houses, registered at the unemployment exchanges as unemployed, or leaving on the emigrant ship to find employment building houses for people who apparently have a better conception of their responsibilities to their fellowmen than we display when we permit skill to be wasted, as it is being wasted to-day through unemployment in the building trade.

Let us take the Government's record in respect of prices. I remember when the inter-Party Government was in office that if the price of one commodity, no matter how luxurious it might have been, went up by a ½d. or a ¼d. the Order Paper was splattered with questions as to what was being done about prices and asking why the Minister for Industry and Commerce permitted this increase, even though the amount in many cases was only a farthing or a half-penny on a commodity which it did not matter, so far as human life was concerned, whether it was ever made or not. What has the position been during the past 12 or 18 months? This Government has virtually abolished price control. Price control Orders, dealing with various commodities, have been revoked by the dozen by the Minister for Industry and Commerce, and that Minister, speaking presumably for the Government, has made it clear that this Government does not want any price control. We must rely on the generosity of those who produce goods, and we must buy the best way we can. That is the only type of control this Government envisages, but that is not what the Government promised the people during the last election, and during the one before that again.

The Government then said they wanted to control prices and they wrapped that statement up with a promise guaranteeing that they would maintain the food subsidies. The Taoiseach knows the ignominious way that promise to maintain the subsidies was torn up. He knows that within 12 months of its being made the subsidies were removed, and a crushing burden was inflicted upon the people by increases in the price of a large number of essential basic commodities, so far as the domestic budget of the people was concerned.

During the last election we said that if Fianna Fáil came back to office they would abolish the food subsidies on butter, bread and flour. The Taoiseach, the Minister for Industry and Commerce, the Minister for Justice and other members of the present Government said that was untrue. They said: "We do not intend to do that. That is the kind of propaganda our opponents disseminate about us, but we are so pure and incorrupt in all these matters that a thought of that kind would not soil our political minds. Our escutcheons are as white as ever they were and we would not dream of doing that." Once the people had parted with their votes however, and once the present Government got into office with the largest majority of any Government during the past 25 years, they realised they could act with impunity as far as their promises were concerned, and could act with relative immunity as far as electoral consequences were concerned. The result was that the Government which promised to maintain subsidies on butter, bread and flour, abolished these subsidies and drove the cost of living still higher.

What is the position to-day? Look at what is published in the Irish Trade Journal for March, 1958. During the four quarters of 1956, the bleak and blizzard year, the cost-of-living index figure rose from 132 in mid-February to 134 in mid-November—two points in 12 months—and bear in mind that portion of that 12 months included the period of the Suez crisis when freight rates went sky-high. Look at 1957. The cost-of-living index figure was 138 in May, 1957. In August, 1957, it was 143, and in mid-November, 142, showing that the cost of living went up by seven points in 1957, as compared with two points in 1956. Since mid-November, 1957, it had increased by a further two points in mid-February, and in mid-May by another two points. Therefore, since February, 1957, the cost-of-living index figure has increased from 135 to 146 in mid-May, 1958, an increase of 11 points spread over the six quarters since this Government came into office. If these returns are any guide it can be seen that as long as Fianna Fáil remain in office the cost-of-living index figure will continue to rise, as sure as Monday follows Sunday.

We have reached a situation, in regard to Government record of achievement, in which the cost of living has been raised to a higher level than it ever was during living memory. That is a record which can be attached to the achievements of that Party. As everybody knows, the cost of raw materials and freight rates throughout the world have fallen in recent months. The price of raw materials of many essential commodities has decreased, and freight rates have slumped so much that it is reckoned that nearly 20 per cent. of the world's shipping is tied up, because it would not pay the owners of ships to put them into commission at the freight rates which can be fetched to-day.

In 1956 we had to deal with freight rates based on Suez, on long hauls, on scarcity of fuel and on the uncertainty as to what was to happen in the future. To-day freight rates are lower than they have been for a long time. Half our imports are transported by ships but, nevertheless, reductions in freight rates and in the prices of raw materials are apparently having no effect whatever, if one is to judge by the continued rise in commodity prices. In other words, people who have a right to expect a reduction in prices are, in fact, not getting that reduction.

All of us remember the Lemass £100,000,000 plan. That was subsequently interpreted by the Minister for Lands as not a plan at all but as a discussion document, and was not to be taken so seriously. We were meant to discuss it and say what we thought of it. It was never intended as a plan, said the Minister, though it was so offered to the electorate at the time it was produced. Under the plan Fianna Fáil were to find 20,000 more jobs each year to absorb young people leaving the schools. Let us see what jobs were provided.

In the Irish Trade Journal of March, 1958, on page 38, it shows that on an average there were more people employed in industries producing transportable goods in 1956 than in 1957, but 1956 was the blizzard, gloomy year. The year 1957 was regarded by Fianna Fáil as a year of recovery under its administration, but the figures show, from the point of view of the number of persons employed in the production of transportable goods, that there were more people employed in these industries in 1956 than in 1957. That statement is published and the proof is supplied on page 38 of the Irish Trade Journal, and we got striking confirmation of that from the Parliamentary Secretary to the Taoiseach yesterday. He was asked a question as to the number of insurance stamps sold in 1955, 1956 and 1957. Here was the answer:—

"The total number of stamps sold and issued to employer depositors in 1955 was 25,806,000. In 1956 it was 25,922,000 and in 1957"

——the year of recovery——

"it was 24,079,000. The average number of stamps sold per week in a year provides an estimate of the average number of persons in insurable employment each week throughout the year. These weekly averages for the three years in question are respectively 496,300, 498,500 and 463,100."

In other words, employment was substantially less in 1957 than it was in 1955 or 1956 and all this under a Government that said they would abolish unemployment, put every adult man and woman into work and all under a Government the Deputy Head of which said he had a £100,000,000 plan to put 20,000 additional people to work each year. Somebody ought to explain where the hitch occurred and just what happened to prevent this scheme working with that precision accuracy which one is led to believe is a characteristic of the Fianna Fáil Party plans.

I should like to ask the Taoiseach where are we going. What does he conceive to be our problems? As I see it, our main problems are unemployment, under-employment, emigration and the undeveloped condition of the country. Every country in Europe is making greater progress than we have made in the past ten years both in agricultural and in industrial production. Any reference to any European statistic, any reference to O.E.E.C. records or any other statistic will show that we are behind every other European country, particularly the free countries in Europe, in the matter of increasing productivity, output and exports.

In fact, we are in the position in which the present Minister for Industry and Commerce was obliged to ask the O.E.E.C. countries to recognise this country as an under-developed country for the purpose of the Free Trade Area. He asked that we should be bracketed in that category with Greece and Turkey because that represented in his view the strength of our economic fabric here. Thus, 14 years after a war in which we were not engaged we are in the category of an undeveloped country with an economic fabric such that we are compelled to ask that we should be put in that special category for the purpose of considering plans for the Free Trade Area in Europe.

What will be done about these problems? What is it proposed to do about that in so far as the Free Trade Area is concerned? I think the problem of the Free Trade Area and the emergence of that area will throw up problems which will threaten the very existence of this nation. We may have time and if we act vigorously and radically we can save the nation by stopping the haemorrhage through the emigration of the best of its manhood and womanhood. If we are to do that on the one hand and meet the impact of the Free Trade Area on the other, I certainly would not like to hazard a guess as to the degree of economic chaos that could develop here unless we brace ourselves and plan seriously and co-operatively among all Parties and among all sections of the community to face the dangers which the Free Trade Area menacingly holds out so far as this country is concerned.

At the present moment we export a very large variety of manufactured goods to Great Britain without tariffs, without having to compete in the British market by reason of tariff impositions on these exports. Notwithstanding the fact that we have free entry into the British market in respect of many of our industrial products, we have done little more than get our toe into the British market so far as the export of industrial products is concerned. That is the position we have reached even though these commodities go in there tariff free.

What will the position be when Britain, as a part of the Free Trade Area lowers her tariff barriers against countries in the common market which permits them to export goods to Britain free of tariffs or at a substantially lower scale of tariffs? What will be our position in those circumstances? We have got no more than a toe-hold in the British market although we have the right to export goods there free of tariffs. What are our prospects of increasing our exports or, indeed, holding them? What will be our position when we will have to compete in the British market with the countries on the common market in the Free Trade Area which have long industrial traditions and a high degree of capitalisation and which will have precisely the same treatment as ourselves? If we sell against these countries the tariff barriers will be lowered to permit them to send in their goods on the same terms as we do. If we cannot do that —it is a brave man who will say to-day we can do it—what will be the consequences for our industries in this country?

It must mean more unemployment and a serious dislocation of the industries which we have built up. These problems will not be dealt with by just using brave words such as: "We must meet the challenge" and "This Free Trade Area is a challenge to us." It is something we have got to brace ourselves to meet. I see no evidence of any planning to enable us to meet, not the challenge, but the poised, mortal blow which I feel the Free Trade Area will strike at this country if we do not adequately equip ourselves to deal with the problem which will arise with the emergence of that Free Trade Area.

I can see nothing in any of the speeches made by Ministers nor can I see anything happening in industry which gives us hope that our people have been led or braced to meet the challenge which will flow from the emergence of the Free Trade Area.

I am afraid that brave words are being used as a substitute for hard and deep thinking and as a substitute for awakening the people to a sense of the danger in which they stand in a very special way having regard to our relatively under-developed position in this country.

I do not underestimate the difficulties. We are a small country—one of the smallest in Western Europe. We have got a small market with not many possibilities of extension. In fact, the market is contracting by bigger emigration over the past 20 years. We have fewer people to buy goods to-day than we had last year, still fewer than the year before, and still fewer than the year before that again. The market is falling all the time. There is no evidence in the statistics balancing emigration with births to show that the market will expand in the foreseeable future.

As far as we are concerned, therefore, our life is cast on this small island with a small market. We cannot live by taking in each other's washing. That will not spell out a very happy life for anybody. We have got to import goods if we are to maintain the standard of living we have to-day. We do not want to lead the life of hermits and recluses. If we have got to import goods to give us the civilised living we have to-day, then we have got to export in order to pay for what we import. On that point, this country is balanced on a razor's edge. The figures for the last six months of our imports and exports are quite disturbing. It may be that the second part of the year will produce a somewhat better balance, but the figures for the first six months of this year produce no justification whatever for any satisfaction. Instead, they produce cause for alarm, and a danger that it may be necessary to discipline our buying as far as imports are concerned, especially imports of consumer goods of the luxury and nonessential class.

We have got no specific raw materials here, such as frequently have compensated other countries for deficiencies in their economic structures. We have nothing here that is scarce in any other part of the world. In fact, we have nothing that other countries have not got. In my view, that is an approximate appraisal of the natural resources of this country. But there is in this country—and it has survived the change of Government in 1922—a pathetic belief by a substantial section of our people that, somehow or other, somebody owes us a living and that it is the job of somebody, not ourselves, to find that living for us, that the world, somehow or other, has got to take a deep, passionate and tender interest in the wellbeing of the Irish people. The plain fact is that nobody has any responsibility for us except ourselves. The standard of life our people enjoy here will be the standard of life which their own industry, their own efforts and their own plans determine for them.

What are our assets as a nation? The only assets we have got here are 3,000,000 people and 11,000,000 acres of arable land. That represents our total worldly assets. What we make out of the 3,000,000 people and the 11,000,000 acres of arable land will determine the standard of living, not only of every Deputy who sits here, but of every man and woman in every house and cottage up and down the country. It is because we must utilise these resources to spin and weave a decent standard of living for our people that there can be no justification for any complacency when there are such obvious fractures, gaps and crevices in the whole economic structure.

I do not blame the Government for the absence of natural resources here or for the inadequacy of our resources. Nor can the Government be blamed for the smallness of the market or for the fact that we are an outpost of Western Europe. But all these shortcomings of natural resources, remote location and small market are more than ordinary handicaps which have to be got over, not by our doing things in the ordinary way but by doing them in a very extraordinary way to make up for the handicap we suffer by being a small country with a small population and a small market on the perimeter of Europe, away from the main stream of commercial and industrial traffic in Europe.

I do not blame the Government for these shortcomings here, but I do blame them for deceiving the people. I do blame them for giving the impression to the people that, if you vote for Fianna Fáil, then you are entitled to get a ticket on a gravy train which will take you to indescribable prosperity, will solve all your headaches and heartaches and balance your domestic budgets. No matter what Government is in office in this country, it will take a long time for us to overcome the natural handicaps produced by living in a small country with no great resources, nothing that the world is craving for. It is a mistake to mislead the people into believing that, merely by putting an "X" on the ballot paper, divorced completely from thinking and divorced completely from a realisation of our basic deficiencies, we will weave a decent livelihood for our people.

This Government, at the last election —at a time they knew was a difficult one for this country and many other countries in Europe—misled decent, honest people into putting them into office in the pathetic belief that, once you get a Fianna Fáil Government, your difficulties here are at an end. Many of these simple, prejudiced people are now signing at their employment exchanges. Many of them have been forced to emigrate to Britain and some other countries overseas. Each one of them is paying more for food—food which, at the last election, Fianna Fáil promised would be cheaper. Each one of them knows that the struggle to live to-day is harder and tougher for them than it was in February of 1957. That is what I blame this Government for. For deceiving and misleading the people and giving them the impression that a Fianna Fáil Government automatically, by its knowledge of hypnotism and mesmerism, would produce a change in the hard, economic realities facing every body whose destiny is cast in this country.

The policy of this Government is to govern. This Government now has a large majority of the quietest collection of Deputies elected to this House for more than 25 years. No matter what the Government do, all the Fianna Fáil back benchers—one must admire them for that deep and abiding loyalty—never even murmur. When the worst possible Bill goes through this House, they can manage to create an artificial smile and give the impression that they are full of enthusiasm for it. Whatever groans take place inside, they manage on the face window to keep a delightful urbanity and give the impression they are delighted with the Bill being introduced. No other country in the world could have produced a Party like the Fianna Fáil Party that sat on these benches when the Budget of 1957 was introduced. Their ineffaceable smile and light and buoyant behaviour gave the impression that they were full of enthusiasm for the 1957 Budget. This Government cannot complain of being harassed by its back-bench members.

This Government has a larger majority than any Government has had over the past 25 years. It has got the power by the fact that it is the Government. It has got the majority, a silent, unquestioning majority and it is the Government's job to lead and govern.

I want to know what the Government intends to do, faced, as it now is, by the problems of unemployment, emigration, under-employment and under-development. We have had not a glimmer of light, not a glimmer of hope, in the last two Budgets which should be instruments of economic policy; we have had nothing in the speeches of Ministers except the pathetic belief of the Minister for Lands that if you catch enough fish, some time in the dim distant future you can manage to swim into prosperity. The Minister for Lands has produced more pipe dreams and statistics in the last 16 months than would make the world ten times more prosperous if they were half true.

Is that the only manifestation of Government policy? Is that the only pronunciamento that is to come from the Fianna Fáil Front Benches? Speeches by the Minister for Lands appear to be the only light we can get of the way the Government is taking. His eyes are turned towards the seaboard. He is looking towards the Atlantic hoping that in some way at some time there will be a multiplication of the loaves and fishes and that everything will be all right.

That is not good enough. That is not fair treatment to the people who voted for Fianna Fáil in the last election. It may be that many of these people were simple and credulous, but you have no right to walk on them simply because they were simple and credulous. Many of them were decent honest people, misled—they were at the crossroads on that occasion—into believing that if they turned into the road signposted Fianna Fáil they were all right. They found since that unemployment, far from being solved, is as bad as it was 12 months ago and worse than it was in 1956. They found that emigration is in a tidal wave at present, that more people are going to Britain and overseas than ever before and that the cost of living is higher to-day than at any time in living memory.

That is what the people have got from this Government. The Government deceived the people into electing them by promising them, not that they would be suffering as they are under these crucifying burdens, but that they would be precipitated into a land flowing reasonably well with milk and honey so long as Fianna Fáil controlled the sources of supply.

Now, on the last day on which the Dáil sits we have an opportunity of asking the Government what it proposes to do about these serious problems. Are we to have a drift in the next three or four months as we have had in the past 15? It is clear that with our present policy as a nation and our past policy no matter what Government was in office—I will take my share of responsibility, but everybody else must take his—over 35 years we have still failed to solve the basic problems which have afflicted the country during that period. Unemployment, under-employment, emigration and under-development were with us 36 years ago. They are still with us to-day notwithstanding the many creditable and praiseworthy things that have been done during the interregnum.

These problems are still with us and we must take a stand. We must ask: are we to continue this policy that has given us these disappointing results, the lowest population we have ever had, the highest cost of living and an unemployment problem without parallel, in relation to our population, in any other country in Western Europe? If we are satisfied to pursue our present and past policy, then we must be satisfied with continued large-scale unemployment, the drift of emigration, an undeveloped country and a cost-of-living index figure higher than it has ever been before.

I put it to the Government that even now somebody in the Government might get suspicious that they were not on the right track. Somebody now might have misgivings whether they were pursuing the right policy. Somebody now might say that these policies are giving us these results.

We might get back some of the vigour and freshness manifested in the speech made by the Taoiseach when he said that if he could not solve the problems within the system he would go outside the system, or in the speech made by the Tánaiste, the famous speech at the Red Bank, when he said that if within the limits of the present system they could not cope with unemployment then the system must be changed.

It is impossible now to get people with responsibility to reappraise the whole situation in the light of our present position and of these past declarations. To my mind, it is only by abandoning the easy streets, the easy roads of the past and by taking a radical view of our present needs, by reorienting our policy in such a way as to give us new weapons to deal with these new problems, that we can ever hope to find a solution for them.

As far as these benches are concerned there will be good will and solid sustained support for a new and radical approach to the solution of our problems. But if there is to be a continuance of inertia, a continuance of drift, a continuance of the policy which has given us frustration and disappointment and which is a negation of all we believed national freedom would mean to us, then the Labour Party will continue to criticise policies which we believe do not give us the opportunity of developing our relatively limited resources in the interest of the ordinary people.

I rise on this Vote in protest against the clear failure of the Government in its time of office to initiate any policy whatsoever to deal with the problems facing the country.

I think it does not help very much for speakers on both sides of the House to concern themselves with the marginal fluctuations which have taken place in the changing of Governments over the past 25 years, the marginal fluctuations in what of course are the most important items of Government policy, unemployment and emigration. It seems to me that a very much more important indication of the pattern is shown in the Irish Statistical Survey, 1957, to which the Taoiseach referred in his opening remarks. I would like to concern myself more with that than with the time-to-time relatively minor fluctuations that have taken place as a result of a change of Government.

It has been one of the misfortunes of political development in this country that our political betters do not seem to have to concern themselves with the formulation of policy in the inter-election period. The result is that there is a great facility, in the first 12 or 18 months of a Government when nobody may criticise because the policy, which prior to the election had not been disclosed, is given time to work itself out. That period allows the Government to say: "We have not had time to get into our stride." They then say that nothing is forthcoming. They go out and are replaced by the former Opposition who go through the same procedure. Consequently, there has been no change in the continuity of policy since the late 1930s.

Any detailed consideration of the Statistical Survey shows that we have come to a period in the life of the country which is probably the most serious we have known in its whole existence. I find it difficult to believe that the Taoiseach really read this Survey and, if he read it, that he could have contented himself with the statement he made when opening this debate and with the collective policies of his Ministers over the past 17 months of office.

The Statistical Survey shows that, at the present moment in the country, there is a crisis of our survival as a nation. In face of the figures put forward in the Survey, it seems unbelievable that a responsible Government could remain so completely inert and unmoved by the very frightening disclosures.

In the most recent population survey, we have been told that our population is at present the lowest ever recorded. There has been a decline in population in every province with the exception of Leinster—and there has been a decline in Leinster in so far as there had been the considerable rise of 4.3 per cent. in the 1946-1951 period while, in the last period, 1946-51, the rise was .2 per cent. In all the other provinces, there has been a marked increase in the depopulation of our countryside.

The position, therefore, it seems to me, has arisen where there is emigration; depopulation has reached pandemic proportions. There is a flight from the country of which the most serious significance is, I suppose, that whole families are going and that, in many cases, people are leaving who already have jobs. It is not only the unemployed who are leaving—and they are leaving in large numbers—but also people who have reasonably well-paid work in the country but who no longer have any faith in the future of the country and who do not want their children to grow up in what is, as they believe, a dying society, rapidly becoming completely extinct.

The Taoiseach must have noticed that the present rate of emigration has been exceeded only once and that was in 1881-82. The total net emigration in 1951-56 was 196,000 persons compared with a net emigration figure of 119,000 in 1946. The Statistical Survey has between its covers the whole story of the failure of our political leadership —not only of the present Taoiseach but of all our political leaders—over the past 35 years. It clearly shows the progressive decline in our population and the emigration of our people in their tens of thousands to all corners of the world.

When we took over Government, the average yearly net emigration was in the region of 16,675. It is now something in the region of 40,000, 50,000 or, I understand, 60,000. The record of our political leaders, therefore, has shown a progressive increase in emigration since taking over the leadership of the country 35 years ago.

Emigration follows from failure to find employment for our people. It does not seem to matter very much whether or not there is a change of Government. You have a choice between 84,000 unemployed and 50,000 to 60,000 emigrating under the present Government or 93,000 unemployed with 40,000 emigrating under their predecessors. The average of unemployment, irrespective of Governments, runs at about 9 or 10 per cent.—and that is not including the emigration figures which would nearly double the real unemployment figures. If the unemployed could not emigrate, we would have something like 750,000 people in this country at the moment for whom we could not find work, presumably, in addition to the 50,000, 60,000 or 70,000 already here unemployed.

Attempts have been made, by the establishment of industry, to find work for these people. However, it is quite clear that the industries so established have proved themselves completely inadequate for their purpose. Of the 3,114 established industries engaged in the production of transportable goods, 2,764 have under 50 people employed in them. Obviously they are negligible industries and certainly they are negligible in their impact on our unemployment figures. In the years 1946 to 1951 some 800 new jobs were created in industry to meet the needs of from 1,500 to 2,000 people coming on the labour market each year who need jobs.

There has been a decline in the total labour force. It declined between 1956 and 1957 by 9,000 in agriculture and by 6,000 in constructive work while other spheres of economic activities showed very little change. The total number of people engaged in industry in 1955 was 235,000, in 1956 it was 227,000 and in 1957 it was 220,000. As the Taoiseach said, between 1956 and 1957 there has been very little change in industrial production. It seems to me that this is a very grim recitation of facts of which the Taoiseach and his Government must be aware. For the solution of these problems of emigration growing each year, the chronic unemployment figures and the position in which, indeed, we are a nation speeding out of existence, the Government continues to cling to the old, tried and failed political policies.

These policies were not followed by them in their earlier years when they certainly made certain progressive decisions and made many very notable advances in social legislation and in the establishment of new industries. That phase is now passed, it seems, and the Government does not seem to have any solution whatever for the position of the unemployed and for the impending national bankruptcy of our society.

The best hope that they had for providing a solution for these problems was the Budget but in that Budget we saw certain principles enshrined, it would seem for good and all. The Budget accepted the decision in relation to subsidies and it saw a remarkable reversion of Fianna Fáil's former interest in the under-privileged. In the years from 1932 to 1939 Fianna Fáil became favourably associated in the public mind as a Party which had the interest of the workers at heart. During those years it introduced social legislation, some good health legislation and it established industrial projects of one kind or another.

This policy has been reversed in the Budget and we saw instead the decision to increase the allocation of funds to the Presidential establishment, to increase subventions for advanced studies and for the National Gallery, while at the same time, reducing the subvention for old-age pensions, unemployment assistance, pensions for the blind and other such groups. That was a relatively minor side of Government policy. The main point was that there was no expansion of capital investment so as to create more work and reduce the number of the unemployed. That is the main failure of Government policy over the year.

By accepting the figure of £36¼ million for capital provision, which included £2.8 million for the Industrial Credit Corporation, which need not necessarily be spent, it is quite clear that the Government accepted as its target figure for unemployment in this year the earlier figure of 83,000 or 84,000 which we saw last December. That must always be associated with the figure of 60,000 for emigration giving us a total of 130,000 people who are substantially unemployed. The Government have faced the fact of that huge unemployment figure and they have ignored it. The Government introduced this arid, unimaginative and cowardly Budget which will not meet the needs or the demands of our economy.

It is quite clear that the Government have adopted the old and discredited idea that it is not the Government's responsibility to find work for the unemployed. They dismissed the unemployed with the pious wish or hope that private industry would find work for them. They have, in fact, washed their hands of the whole problem of investing capital in order to create work for the unemployed. That is a major departure of policy for the present Government compared with its earlier years of office.

I believe that the whole picture presented by this survey demonstrates quite clearly a picture of continuous failure by successive Governments evenly divided between the two main Government and Opposition Parties. It stems from their failure to accept that the fundamental system of Government under which they operate simply cannot, will not and has not been successful, that is, private enterprise. It cannot work satisfactorily in a modern economy in the creation of a socially just order and a prosperous society.

The whole thesis of the Government appears to be that national prosperity can be brought about as a by-product of the private businessman's pursuit of his own personal wealth. That clearly could not operate and it must be demonstrated to all that it will not operate. The private businessman's interests and the interests of the mass of the people conflict because one is trying to make money at the expense of the other, and the more wealth the businessman amasses the less wealth will be available to the mass of the people.

The failure of private enterprise to create work is due first to the refusal of successive Governments to accept decisions which they find distasteful because of their own personal association with business and industry. The second major failure arises out of the planning blunders of the thirties in relation to industry. Industry was based, I think wrongly, practically exclusively on imported raw materials instead of being based on the product of land and labour which are, as Deputy Norton said, our only raw materials. Upon those two raw materials sound industrial concerns could have been based.

We made a further error, I believe, in handing over complete control to foreign parent companies. It must have been clear, at the time, that Irish industrial capital was not available from private sources and Governments then seem to have accepted the position that foreign capital should be permitted. In spite of the Control of Manufactures Act, everybody tacitly understood that foreign capital did form the basis of our resources in the creation of native industries. That decision which accepted the position that we could not have formed our own industries because of lack of capital except under foreign control was a major political mistake. At that stage we should have been prepared to initiate those industries in the form of State or semi-State controlled concerns and in that way maintain control over them ourselves.

Our failure to develop an export market is due not to the lack of quality in our goods or the lack of skill, technique or know-how on the part of our technicians or craftsmen, but to the fact that our industries, being subsidiaries of British parent companies are, in the first instance, naturally excluded from the British market, because the parent company supplies that; we are also excluded from any foreign markets to which they have access. Therefore, we have developed little or no export trade on the industrial side.

We are also beginning to feel the squeeze of the contracting home market. We have lost 750,000 consumers with their wives and children and the goods which they could have produced over the years. In addition, we find ourselves as a result of the operation of protective tariffs, completely at the mercy of industrialists in their demand for further and further protection. What will happen when the free trade area comes about I do not know, but the industrialist, in asking for protection for his goods and asking for any price he may choose to name, has the whiphand over the Government. The answer given by these people if their demands are not met in regard to tariffs and quota restrictions is: "We shall have to close down the factory unless we get this protection." In that way blackmail has been used, and as the threat of unemployment in a particular area could not be accepted by successive Governments the protection was given. Our industrialists operated in a restricted market and made no serious attempts to expand their trade or increase the efficiency of their business.

It is only fair to say that it is possible that our industries could never have been developed to the stage at which they could have competed effectively in the foreign markets because of the start which other nations had over us in their know-how and technique, the organisation of their business and their foothold in foreign markets. These were all great advantages which a young nation like ours would find it hard to compete with, in addition to the marvellous developments which have taken place in mechanisation and automation in recent years, the capital outlay on which is fabulous and probably beyond the resources of any private individual in our society to develop.

However, there was a series of blunders made, made in good faith and they may be forgiven because anybody can make a mistake. What I think is grievously wrong on the part of the Government and of successive Governments is their refusal to face these facts and to decide to remedy the situation as best they can. There is this continuous evasion of their responsibility in this regard. There is the further great defect in our trading activities, that is, the operation of the most vicious, concentrated and elaborate trade rings, restrictive trade practices, cartels and monopolies. A nominal attempt was made to deal with this problem under the Restrictive Trade Practices Act.

I think it is quite clear from the activities of the Fair Trade Commission that it no longer operates to anything like the extent it should, and there have been serious cases in which the Government has ignored its recommendations and refused to accept them. It is clear that the businessmen, traders, retailers, wholesalers and manufacturers all make large and unjustified profits at the expense of the consumers through the operation of restrictive trade practices. It seems to me the greatest betrayal by the Government has been its refusal to recognise its responsibility to the consumers in regard to these matters. Its first loyalty appears to be to the reasonably wealthy minority of businessmen, traders, manufacturers, and industrialists, covering up their activities in exploiting the consumers through the operation of restrictive trade practices and monopolies.

If the Government believes in private enterprise, the dynamic outcome of which I understand is free competition, it should so operate but everybody knows it does not so operate and the consumer is carrying the burden of completely absurd, wasteful and inefficient retail and distributive trades of all kinds, wholesale and retail, with the old system of a multiplicity of different shops selling exactly the same articles at precisely the same prices, completely wasteful of human effort, with unfortunate boys and girls standing behind counters wasting their lives in a silly way of work which can be done just as easily —as has been demonstrated—by the large self-service markets. This is a waste of human effort which could be used for more valuable creative purposes.

Also there is the additional expense of maintaining this multiplicity of stores, shops and businesses, an expense which is borne by the consumers because it is they who do bear it. The Government while professing to believe in private enterprise has given up any attempt in any branch of the retail or distributive trades to insist that the free competition motive, or underlying force, of private enterprise should any longer operate. It is the consumer who pays. It is clear now that the Government had accepted and put all its faith in private enterprise. I think that system has shown itself to be clearly unable to deal with the needs of our time.

One of the disturbing features is the Government's inaction in this regard. Certainly, the Tánaiste did not share this attitude of inaction in the face of these problems. He is, or he certainly was, aware that there is no solution within the private enterprise economic system for our unemployment and emigration ills. When he discussed proposals for full employment, as reported in the Irish Press of October 12th, 1955, he said the proposals had their origin in the Fianna Fáil Party's reassessment of the progress made during the past quarter of a century and its appreciation of the need for a vigorous new programme of economic development for the future. He then outlined some proposals and said that these proposals which he was about to outline would when completed form an integral part of the plans. Briefly these proposals were based on the view that the successful application of a sound development policy required an adequate and carefully prepared investment programme and would depend on the country's capacity to execute such a programme and that this investment programme must in its earlier stages be undertaken mainly by the Government.

I think that is perfectly reasonable and I supported it and agreed with it and I was enthusiastically behind it as were many other members of the Party. The Tánaiste went on to say:—

"Putting it in its clearest and simplest form it can be said that at present the gross national expenditure, that is to say the total amount spent every year by private persons and public authorities on both consumption and investment is not sufficient to bring the total demand for goods and services to a level at which the labour resources of the country would be fully employed in meeting it."

That is what is being said here all the morning. The Tánaiste and his Government are at present in a position to put these things into operation and my main thesis now was then his. The main proposal was that, as a first step to the attainment of full employment, the Government should undertake a positive spending programme spread over a five-year period. He went on to point out that it should be financed otherwise than by taxation or by borrowing from current savings and planned on a scale estimated to be sufficient, taking into account the volume of private activity, to raise total national outlay—private consumption spending, plus private business investment, plus public authority expenditure —to a level calculated to be adequate to set up a demand for the whole of the labour available for employment.

He then went on to say that his plan was for the creation of 20,000 jobs each year—which is a reasonable figure for the number of young people coming on the labour market annually—in order to eventually get rid of the unemployment problem.

Probably the bias of that plan did not include sufficient interest in agriculture. I think it under-emphasised the necessity of basing our industries on raw materials created from the land and labour but, broadly, the objective was unquestionably reasonable in the light of the terribly serious crisis position facing our whole society at the moment, and threatening our very existence as a nation.

I believe that it is only by State capital investment in business, in productive profit making business, that we can create enough jobs to saturate and absorb the existing unemployment rates, and absorb new people coming into employment each year. I cannot understand why the plan of the Tánaiste, being a reasonable one capable of amendment which would make it acceptable, I believe, by all Parties, has not been implemented in any degree, or why there has not been any promise of its being likely to be implemented. That plan held out a great hope to the country, and many people honestly believed that that was the plan which the country badly needed.

The case has been made so well over the years by State corporations, companies and industries, that it is difficult to know why our political leaders refuse to accept the necessity for widespread State investment in manufacturing industries. In every aspect of our society in social services, undeveloped as they are, we clearly could not leave the care of the aged, the blind, the widows and orphans to private voluntary agencies, no matter how well meaning they might be. We could not leave our primary education, defective and all as it is, to private agencies. Where we have left education to private agencies in relation to secondary education it is no fault of theirs that their educational facilities are grossly inadequate. The money is not there and the same applies in relation to university education.

It was clear that in relation to our health services the State had to intervene in a large sector of those services, in order to see that the work was properly done. The State also had to undertake the postal services and assist in many municipal services and the Government can take a large part of the credit for the building programme and slum clearing programme which is coming very close to completion. That was the product of State and municipal effort, and little if anything of it was due to private enterprise over the years.

Aer Lingus, the Shipping Company and probably the most prosperous of our agricultural industries, Comhlucht Siúicre, Teoranta, are all progressive, advanced and efficient industries. In another sector, Irish Steel Holdings probably is one of the most remarkable success stories over the years. It took over from a bankrupt company and Irish Steel Holdings is firmly established as a going concern under semi-State operation. Our political leaders have accepted the need for State intervention in relation to these aspects of our lives in economic activities. Why then is it that in the most important of all, the creation of employment, where we know that private business cannot, will not, and certainly has not created the work and jobs that are needed, with 60,000 persons fleeing from this country each year—men, women and whole families—the politicians cannot now say: "We have tried, genuinely believing that we were right, a series of economic experiments which have failed. On the other hand, we have tried a series which, on the whole, have been reasonably successful?" Why can we not inject that principle into the most basic fundamental need of our whole society, the creation of work for the unemployed and the ending of emigration?

It is quite clear that until we do create full employment we cannot afford the welfare State and the things I want. We can only get full employment through a planned economy and the injection the Government can put into it. The Government has been too facile in its rejection of requests by various Deputies, including myself, in relation to all the activities of this State.

When I pointed out the difficulties in education the Minister for Education has been able to tell me, with facile glibness, that we cannot afford better education for our children. The vast majority of children get no education beyond the age of 14 years. When I asked for a speeding up in the building of new schools and the repair of dilapidated schools, he said there was no money. We spend less on education than any other country in Western Europe per head per pupil. Something like 169/- per head is spent by Scotland. Britain spends 160/- per head; and we spend something like 60/- or 70/- per head. But there is no money.

Similarly, when I ask the Minister for Health to extend or improve our health services, he uses the same excuse—there is no money. When we look to get children vaccinated against poliomyelitis, the Minister for Health uses the same excuse—no money. On the one hand, £250,000 is given to the master bakers, but there is nothing to vaccinate children against poliomyelitis. Again, the farmers have increased production, as various Governments have exhorted them, but they find the prices for the products they have produced are now to be cut. That is their reward for having answered the call for increased production.

The pitiful position of the old age pensioners on 24/- per week at our cost of living is unbelievable. I often wished it would be possible for some of our political leaders to try themselves, for three or six months, to live on the pittance we give old people and we give the unemployed on unemployment assistance. Some of our political leaders should try to live on that and then we could ask them to come back here and reconsider what a man can live on and support a family. But again the answer is: "We cannot afford it."

One of the things our political leaders must understand is that this "cannot afford" and the inadequacy of the national income is not just an act of God. It is the direct by-product of incompetent government, of foolish social and economic policies, and it can be changed if you have the will and the wish to do so. It is clear that, until we have a planned economy and planned capital investment by the State in productive enterprises, we shall not get full employment. And until we get full employment in the country, we shall not get social justice. We shall go on with our inadequate educational services, our inadequate care of the aged and our health services. I think there are seven different standards of health services available at the moment.

In the light of that picture, which I think is a fair and reasonable picture, I find it quite remarkable that the Government can continue to jog along in its old, easy way, apparently unconcerned by the dramatic exodus which has taken place all around them. It is true that a very radical reappraisal of the whole position is needed—a very radical and fundamental change in our whole attitude in society, our whole conception of living, our whole political ideology, our whole approach to industry and business.

Society should be organised so that the product of land and labour should be made available to the mass of the people and should not be retained for the exclusive use of a relatively small and wealthy minority. Of course, I suppose that is really the reason—I am sure indeed that it is really the basic reason—why we are not getting the radical and fundamental change from our existing political leaders which is needed. They themselves are too closely identified with the business and industrial interests of our country as it is organised to-day. They seem to me to be prepared to put the interests of the minority before the interests of our whole society. They are prepared to betray the interests of the mass of the people in order to safeguard and preserve the financial resources and economic rights of the wealthy business authorities they have now come to represent in recent years.

This survey shows that there was never a time in our history when there was not a greater need for a complete change in our fundamental approach to society's problems and, in particular, economic problems. I wonder if it is any use appealing to the Taoiseach at this late stage to reconsider his whole attitude on these matters? I do not see why should we have any reason to believe or to hope that what he did not achieve in the more active days of his youth he is now likely to achieve—why he should ask us to hope he is now going to create prosperity in the next five or ten years if we give him the chance.

In practically every important fundamental issue of policy over the last 35 years, our political leaders have failed to find a solution. These men are still going on, still apparently prepared to come forward at the slightest opportunity and advise us how best the country can be organised in order to establish a prosperous community. It was obvious that, in order to solve Partition, it was necessary to establish certain preconditions of reasonable prosperity here before we would be likely to attract the Six Counties—if we were to end Partition by a union of wills as was suggested by the Taoiseach—into joining up with the Twenty-Six Counties. We have failed in our efforts to end Partition.

Progress reported; Committee to sit again.
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