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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 27 May 1959

Vol. 175 No. 5

Committee on Finance. - Vote 50—Industry and Commerce.

I move:—

That a sum not exceeding £1,178,400 be granted to complete the sum necessary to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1960, for the Salaries and Expenses of the Office of the Minister for Industry and Commerce, including certain Services administered by that Office, and for payment of certain Subsidies and Sundry Grants-in-Aid.

The net Estimate for the Department of Industry and Commerce of £1,758,400 for the year 1959-60 shows an increase of £100,120 compared with the provision for last year. The principal increase arises under subheads which are directly related to the programme of economic expansion, that is to say, in the Grants-in-Aid to the Industrial Development Authority, to Córas Tráchtála Teo., and to An Foras Tionscal. There is a reduction of £41,672 in the Appropriations-in-Aid mainly on recoupments from the American Grant Counterpart Fund.

Industrial production and employment showed a continued recovery from the setback suffered in 1956. For the year 1958, the provisional index of the volume of production of manufacturing industry was four per cent. higher than in 1957. The average number of persons engaged in manufacturing industry increased in each quarter of 1958 as compared with the corresponding periods of 1957. The improvement in the volume of industrial output last year extended over most of our industries, although some of the food processing industries were affected by the bad harvest.

The recovery in production and the expansion in employment which were recorded were very welcome, but it is fairly obvious that development is still much too slow in relation to the country's needs. The development of industrial activities, however, appears likely to accelerate. I know that figures of new factories do not mean very much because they do not reveal the scope, size or development prospects of the concerns enumerated.

In the last financial year, that is, the 12 months ended 31st March last, the records of the Department show that 95 firms either commenced manufacturing operations or extended the range of their production. At the present time, there are quite a substantial number of proposals for new industries, or for new lines of development by existing industries, before the Department and the Industrial Development Authority. A count I had made last week indicated that there are at present 180 such proposals under consideration. Some of these relate to projects of considerable magnitude by Irish standards. It would, of course, be optimistic to assume that all of them will proceed but, if a reasonable proportion go ahead, then it could be that the country is on the threshold of another major break-through in industrial expansion. As Deputies are well aware, however, there are factors in the international situation which could possibly act as a delaying process. Certainly the interest which has been shown in Irish industrial possibilities is satisfactory and justifies expectations that our progress will continue.

The White Paper, on Economic Expansion, which was published last November, has given rise to widespread and very realistic discussion of our economic future. That is very welcome. Indeed, the Government, in adopting the rather unusual course of publishing the economic survey which Mr. Whitaker, Secretary of the Department of Finance, prepared at the Government's request, aimed at provoking and providing material for a discussion of that character. As the House is aware, we have been endeavouring to provide suitable conditions for development. We have recognised that progress in the industrial field must depend to a considerable extent upon the enterprise and skill of business people and upon the co-operation of employers and employees. That applies particularly to Irish firms and to those of our own people on whom our main reliance for industrial expansion must be placed.

I have stated here on earlier occasions that there are no facilities of any kind available to non-residents for promoting industry here which are not equally available to Irish citizens. Soundly conceived proposals for the expansion of existing industrial concerns, or for the establishment of new industries by Irish interests either on their own account, or in association with external capital and technical participation, are very welcome. As I have stated in the past, a large part of our hopes for the realisation of industrial expansion depends upon their being forthcoming. Those who promote projects of that character can be assured that their proposals will receive not merely sympathetic consideration on my part but also all the practical assistance which it is within my power to give. The aim will be at all times to co-operate fully with them in securing the implementation of their projects.

The White Paper on economic expansion indicated that various interests in the country—employers, management, labour and so forth—were forming a committee to promote productivity, with special reference as to how this country might most effectively participate in the work of the European Productivity Agency and take full advantage of the Agency's services and resources. That committee is now in existence and one of its immediate aims is to ascertain the requirements of Irish industry in relation to European productivity agency products and to sponsor the formulation of suitable Irish projects for consideration by the agency as well as to promote Irish participation in other projects initiated by the E.P.A.

Personally, I regard the establishment of this National Productivity Committee, with the active and enthusiastic support of the representatives of the trade union movement and the employers' organisations, as an event of major significance in the country's development and, indeed, one of the most encouraging events recorded in the past year or, indeed, for many years. Apart from the activities which come under the review of the National Productivity Committee, we have been giving consideration to the adequacy and suitability of our arrangements for facilitating industrial research.

A complete review of the Industrial Research and Standards Act, 1946, is now being undertaken, with the object of determining what changes should be made in the functions, powers and resources of the Institute, to enable it to co-operate more effectively, and to give very active attention to the problems which face our industrialists. The present statutory limit on the amount of the grant-in-aid payable annually to cover the expenses of administration of the Institute will clearly require to be raised, in any case, to cover the cost of operating the new laboratories which are now being constructed, and which will be used for testing materials of all kinds, and which will represent a considerable addition to the facilities of the Institute.

During the year, Foras Tionscal approved grants amounting to £733,895 for industrial projects located in the undeveloped areas, bringing the total grants approved for that purpose to date to £2,232,740. Of the total amount of grants approved to date, approximately £1,110,684 has been paid out, leaving outstanding commitments of £1,123,056. These approved projects assisted by Foras Tionscal, under the provisions of the Undeveloped Areas Act, represent a total capital investment of £5½ million, and are expected to employ about 4,000 workers; 38 of the projects assisted by Foras Tionscal are in production, and there are also 22 further projects for which assistance has been promised, for which the amount of grant has been determined, but which have not yet reached production stage. Among these further 22 projects yet to reach production stage are a substantial number which are related mainly to export trade. Grants under the Industrial Grants Act, 1956, were made to 17 new projects representing commitments in grants amounting to £439,350, of which £145,415 has been paid, leaving £293,935 to be discharged in respect of a number of projects not yet completed.

The House is aware that the Industrial Grants Act provides for the granting of financial assistance, subject to certain limitations, to industrialists in that part of the country to which the Undeveloped Areas Acts do not apply. This is administered by the Industrial Development Authority and, as was announced in the White Paper on Economic Expansion, it is intended to introduce legislation, I hope, during the present session of the Dáil, to transfer the administration of the Industrial Grants Act to Foras Tionscal, thereby enabling the Industrial Development Authority to concentrate on its promotional activities, and for certain other reasons as well, which, perhaps, I need not elaborate at this stage. The proposed legislation will also provide for changes in the scope of the Act, to make it, I hope, more effective without, at the same time, weakening the policy of inducing industrial development in the undeveloped areas.

I do not intend to say more about that intention at this stage because, as I have said, a Bill is being drafted and the Dáil will be considering it in this session. In the case of legislation of that kind, once the intention to promote it has been announced, it is desirable that there should be no undue delay in proceeding with it.

The scheme for providing grants for industrial firms towards the cost of engaging industrial consultants and technical experts with a view to improving efficiency and productivity has been yielding very encouraging results indeed, and for that reason is being continued. Grants to firms for the purpose of employing these experts and consultants are now made on the basis of one-third of the cost of each technical assistance project. The interest in this scheme which has been displayed reflects the growing appreciation within industry of the necessity for maintaining efficiency at the highest level, and of keeping in line with technical changes occurring elsewhere.

In the course of some public statements this year I referred to the attitude of foreign life assurance offices operated in this country towards the investment of a reasonable proportion of their funds here. During the course of the past week, a preliminary discussion on the matter took place in London with representatives of the Life Offices Association and it gave prospects of a satisfactory outcome. A further meeting to discuss the matter in greater detail is being arranged and will be held when certain statistical matter which is required has been collected.

Deputies are aware of the drive which has been launched under the auspices of the Industrial Development Authority to encourage external investment in industry in this country where it contributes to the country's economic expansion and the establishment of industries of a kind which we are not likely to secure without external aid. Members of the Industrial Development Authority have visited a number of continental countries for the purpose of bringing to the notice of industrialists in those countries, who may be interested in setting up factories abroad, the many facilities and substantial advantages this country has to offer to such industrialists. The response to these efforts has been quite encouraging. A number of factories have already started production while others are being planned as a result of that campaign.

Early last year I arranged for the Industrial Development Authority to appoint a representative in New York whose functions it would be to put before United States industrialists the attractions this country has to offer as an investment centre. As the House is aware Cyril Count McCormack was appointed and a branch office of the Industrial Development Authority was opened in New York as his headquarters. I recently received the report of the Industrial Development Authority upon the operations of that office and it indicates there are good prospects for a number of industries, as a result of these efforts and that a number of proposals have reached an advanced stage.

In conjunction with the efforts of the resident representative an advertising campaign was pursued in suitable American publications and there are plans laid for intensifying these efforts in this year. In order to pursue the campaign in European countries more vigorously I have agreed to the appointment, by the Industrial Development Authority, of a travelling representative in Europe. That appointment has recently been made and an advertising campaign in suitable European papers is being planned in connection with the appointment. May I say that the possibilities of such a campaign were brought to my notice forcibly following on my visit with an economic delegation to Italy on the invitation of the Italian Government?

I had the opportunity there of speaking to a meeting of industrialists, organised by the Milan Chamber of Commerce, on Irish industrial possibilities and, as a result, two or possibly three industrial enterprises will be established here with the assistance of an Italian firm, the director of which emphasised in the course of conversation with me last week that he had not been aware of the facilities and advantages available here prior to that visit, and who expressed the view if they were more widely publicised others, beside himself, would be interested. It will be appreciated this country cannot afford to maintain an organisation and to conduct a publicity campaign on a scale which would ensure that direct contact would be made with every industrial firm in Europe but the new enterprise of the Industrial Development Authority in the appointment of the travelling representative, and the publicity campaign which will support his work will, I am confident, be productive of quite useful results.

The highlights of the year, as far as mining was concerned, was the commencement of production by St. Patrick's Copper Mines Ltd. at Avoca. It went into production, as Deputies know, in October of last year. Having overcome certain production difficulties, which emerged in the early stages, the company are now working up to full capacity and are employing about 500 workers. The copper concentrates and pyrites are being exported through the port of Arklow. Fortunately, copper prices which had slumped for a time have returned to a more satisfactory level and are now near, or at, the figure of £240 a ton. They have remained, indeed, at that level for quite a considerable time.

The collapse of lead and zinc prices involved the suspension of production by the Silver Mines Lead and Zinc Company and by the Abbeytown Mining Company in Sligo, but both companies carried on exploration, the former on the extent of barytes deposits in Tipperary and the latter on Sligo lead and zinc resources. Indeed, the Sligo Company reorganised as the New Abbeytown Mining Company Ltd. resumed production in January of this year on the conclusion of a successful drilling scheme towards the cost of which a State grant was made available.

The Allihies, West Cork, exploration was continued by a subsidiary of Can-Erin of Toronto and exploration has reached a point where a decision will shortly have to be made by that company in respect of major development and production.

In January last year, as the House was informed, I concluded an agreement with the Texas Oil Company which proposes to undertake a comprehensive programme of exploration in Ireland. Prior to concluding that agreement I had received a number of proposals from international groups for the granting of facilities for oil exploration and, having appraised the merits of the various proposals, I decided those made by the Ambassador Oil Corporation of Texas offered the best prospects of a competent and comprehensive scheme of exploration being undertaken by private enterprise. Legislation to give effect to the agreement with the Texas firm, and to provide a practical basis for oil exploration and development, is being prepared and will be introduced shortly. I think I should stress again that the prospects of oil resources being discovered in this country are very doubtful.

The first stage of the technical assistance project for coal exploration in the Leinster and Connacht coalfields commenced with the placing of a contract with a British firm of drilling contractors who began drilling operations last March. That scheme will be financed by an E.C.A. grant of £80,000 from the Counterpart Fund. The scheme, which will take about three years to complete, will be carried out in three stages, the first of which has now begun. It is hoped it will reveal new deposits of coal, both in the vicinity of the existing coal mines and in virgin ground, as a result of which we may eventually be able to produce from home sources our total requirements of anthracite coal and, perhaps, even have an exportable surplus.

In accordance with the White Paper Programme for Economic Expansion a scheme is being prepared for the granting of financial assistance to persons, undertaking by private enterprise, schemes of exploration or development of the country's mineral deposits. The aim of that schemes will be to encourage the development by private enterprise of such schemes as have apparent economic possibilities.

I am considering the question of having legislation prepared in respect of mines and quarries and in respect of explosives and other dangerous substances. The legislation would be concerned primarily with questions of safety, health and welfare. The existing law dealing with these matters is scattered over numerous enactments, some of which go back nearly 100 years, and it is obviously desirable to consider the extent to which the law needs to be codified, amended and generally brought up to date. I should mention, too, that I am arranging for the setting up of a small ad hoc committee representative of employers and workers to consider whether, and, if so, to what extent the Truck Acts require to be revised in the light of modern conditions.

When introducing the Estimates last year, I mentioned that construction had commenced on the refinery at Whitegate, County Cork, and that it was anticipated that the refinery could come on steam about the middle of this year. Deputies will have learned from the newspapers that the first cargoes of crude oil arrived recently at the refinery and that production has commenced. The expedition with which the work of construction was carried out has merited a very well deserved tribute from the promoters to the Irish workers employed on the construction, whose efficiency and productivity contributed to the completion of the operation in advance of schedule.

As the House is aware from the White Paper, the Government have approved in principle proposals of the Board of Irish Steel Holdings Ltd., for major extensions to the steel works at Haulbowline, County Cork. The Board are preparing detailed plans and estimates for further consideration by the Government. I anticipate that their firm proposals will be ready for submission to the Government in the very near future. The development proposals include the extension of open hearth furnace capacity, the casting of large ingots which will be rolled in a new mill into a wide range of finished and semi-finished sections, the adaptation and mechanisation of existing steel-making and rolling plant to meet the requirements of the larger and more varied production and the eventual manufacture of sheet steel from bars produced in the new mill. The primary purpose of the proposed development is to increase the output and the efficiency of the mill and thereby reduce production costs and selling prices.

With the closing of parts of the former Great Northern Railway Company's lines and the taking over by C.I.E. of the portion of the remainder of that Company's undertaking within the State, the prospect of extensive unemployment amongst the employees of the G.N.R. Dundalk Works was foreseen. To deal with that situation a company known then as the Dundalk Engineering Works, Ltd., was formed for the purpose of taking over and developing those works. An independent commercial organisation, in which virtually all the capital so far issued has been taken up by the Industrial Credit Co., Ltd., has been built up consisting of five manufacturing companies and a holding and development company. The manufacture of light motor cars and certain agricultural machines, mainly for export, is proceeding. Work is also being carried out for C.I.E. and for Board na Móna. The construction of equipment for foundry operations and the manufacture and servicing of heavy road vehicles are proceeding. It is the hope and intention that when these companies have been successfully established the shares will be offered for public subscription.

Due to these activities it has been possible to avoid so far any permanent dismissals. As I informed the House recently, they have temporarily laid off at present fewer than 100 while, at the most recent date for which I have figures, 852 workers were in employment. I am sure the House will agree with me in expressing appreciation of the efforts of those who were given what appeared at the time to be a very difficult, if not an impossible, task and to express the hope that their plans will fructify as they intend and that these very important new industrial enterprises in Dundalk will continue to grow, giving still further increased employment for the benefit of that locality and the country as a whole.

As the House knows, the Government have agreed to reimburse the company for the weekly ex-gratia payments which they have been making to those temporarily laid off and also for ex-gratia severance payments which may be made to workers whom it is not found possible to re-employ. The company are not yet in a position to say whether there will be any such workers. The use of the word "may" in my previous sentence relates to that prospect, not to the intention. Any workers whom it is not found possible to re-employ for any reason will, of course, receive this ex-gratia payment.

In view of certain discussions which have been proceeding in Wexford, and particularly a recent debate reported in the Press at a meeting of the Wexford Corporation, I think I should make it clear that these plans for Dundalk involve no conflict with Wexford engineering firms. Certain of the statements made at the meeting of Wexford Corporation were misinformed. There is, of course, as the House knows, no subsidy of any kind for the Dundalk undertaking and it is not intended that there should be a subsidy. There is no Government capital invested in that undertaking. The enterprises there are financed by share capital subscribed initially by the Industrial Credit Company and by loans negotiated in a normal way. Indeed the Bonser Company at Dundalk, which is the concern which has an interest in certain types of agricultural machinery, has also substantial private shareholding. There are certainly no advantages or facilities available to that Dundalk company which are not equally available to all other firms in the country.

There have been some discussions with the management of the Dundalk concern and with the representatives of the Wexford engineering undertakings regarding development possibilities in relation to agricultural machinery generally. A meeting which I had hoped personally to attend has been arranged between them in order to inform each other of the development possibilities that are foreseen. It is a matter of some concern that there is still a very substantial importation of agricultural machinery on which duty is chargeable—types of machinery which it is contemplated could be manufactured in this country on a scale which would meet the country's full requirements. Discussions I had with the representatives of the Wexford engineering firms were directed towards consideration of the possibility of securing an expansion of their production so as to eliminate that unnecessary item from our import statistics.

To avoid any misunderstanding, I think I should make it clear that the Dundalk concern is primarily concerned with exports. The scale of its operations and the type of equipment it is proposing to produce would not make production for the home market alone an economic proposition. The Dundalk concern does not propose to engage in the production of dutiable agricultural machinery which is the main output of the Wexford firms and in the production of which they have the most immediate prospect of expanding the scale of their operations.

I should like to refer briefly to an important development which took place during the year in the repair and shipbuilding industry. Contact was made with the large shipbuilding firm, Verolme United Shipyards of Rotterdam, who became interested in the development of the Cork Dockyard. Negotiations with the firm resulted in an agreement whereby the Cork Company has been acquired and is now being reconstructed to enable vessels of up to 47,000 tons to be repaired.

It is the intention to undertake the building of vessels up to 50,000 tons. Deputies will have seen the announcement from the Company that their development programme is being expedited so that it is now contemplated that they will be in a position to take orders before the end of this year for new ships to be built at Cork. That will be of great benefit to that locality. It is contemplated that when the development plans are completed some 1,800 workers will be employed at the shipyard.

As already announced, the Government have reserved the Blackwater bog, County Offaly, as a source of milled peat for an ammonium nitrate fertiliser factory. Further investigations are being undertaken on the Government's direction in order to bring the matter to the conclusion stage as soon as possible. I have set up a committee to examine the merits of various proposals which have been received from firms of international standing in the chemical and fertiliser industries in regard to the erection of the proposed factory. When the committee's report has been received, I shall then arrange to bring the matter before the Government for a final decision.

Turf development has recently been before the House in the matter of the Turf Development Bill passed last March. It is probable that additional capital will be required by Bord na Móna in 1961 when the House will have a further opportunity of reviewing the position. The generating capacity of the E.S.B. on 31st March, 1959, was 668.5 megawatts. Of that total, 399 megawatts were based on native resources and 289.5 megawatts on imported fuel. That latter figure for imported fuel includes 95 megawatts at the Pigeon House, Dublin, which is now operated only as a stand-by station. A further capacity of 120 megawatts, based on milled peat, has been approved. Of this, 40 megawatts are at Bellacorick, County Mayo, and 40 megawatts are at Rhode, Offaly. These stations are under construction. A further 40 megawatts at Rhode are expected to come into commission in 1964.

The generation from native resources in the last financial year was 64 per cent. of the total. That figure would have been greater had it not been for the very bad weather which drastically reduced the output of Board na Móna. The demand for electricity which became almost static in the early part of 1957 resumed expansion later in the year. In the past financial year, it was approximately 7 per cent. more than in the preceding year. The average rate of annual increase on which plans are now being based is 7 per cent.

Rural electrification is proceeding according to plan. Forty-five areas and 1,600 new rural consumers were connected during the year. The subsidy of 50 per cent. was restored from 1st April last and the scheme is expected to be completed in 1962. A Bill to provide for increased capital expenditure by the Board and for other purposes will be introduced in the course of the next few weeks.

This year, Fuel Importers (Éire) Limited is being wound up. As the House will recollect, that company was formed in 1940 at the beginning of the second World War for the purpose of acquiring supplies of coal then available from Britain in larger quantities than importing merchants could handle. In the following years of fuel scarcity, the company was given the task of maintaining supplies of fuel and handled in or about 6,000,000 tons of turf, firewood and charcoal. In view of the fact that no shortage of coal was likely to occur in the foreseeable future it was decided in December, 1957, to liquidate the company's stocks which then amounted to about 100,000 tons of coal dumped in the Phoenix Park. These stocks were finally cleared in April last.

On the winding up of the company, I think the Dáil will expect me to pay tribute to those who undertook its direction during that protracted period of 19 years. There were changes, no doubt, in the Board over the period but during all the time that the company was in existence a number of public-spirited-men undertook to give their time and attention to its affairs without fee, without even travelling expenses, and thereby did a public service for which they deserve commendation. I have often felt that we in this country lack something in having no established procedure by which public service of that kind can suitably be recognised. If we had such a procedure or arrangement, the directors of this company would certainly qualify. As it is, they have nothing to show for all their long years of unpaid labour except the usual formal letter from the Minister at the end of it, thanking them for their services. I am sure it will hearten them to know that the Government and the Dáil do recognise the value of the contribution they made to the solution of the country's problems during a very difficult period.

During 1958, exports, which stopped slightly short of the exceptionally high figure of 1957, the highest ever recorded in the history of the State, came to £130.7 million. That figure, as I have said, was slightly below the 1957 record but it was reached not withstanding a setback of over £7 million in cattle exports. Substantial increases in the export of bacon, frozen beef, mutton and lamb, chocolate crumb preparations, beer, glass and glassware, jewellery, personal clothing and pharmaceutical products, helped to make up that decline in cattle shipments.

The increase in the adverse balance on visible trade was more effected by an increase in imports than by the slight decline in the export figure. As the Dáil will have surmised, the bad harvest made it necessary to bring in much more than the usual quantities of grain. Heavy purchases of plant and equipment for the new oil refinery and other industrial undertakings, together with the purchase of new ships and aircraft, also contributed to the increase. In spite of the higher deficit on visible trade, the net balance of payments deficit for 1958 is estimated at round about £1,000,000 when invisible exports are taken into account. As the balance for 1958 was on the credit side, £9.2 million, it can be said that for the past two years the State has at least been on an even keel.

On the capital side, the country's external resources have increased and there was an increased inflow of capital on foreign account during the past year. The incentives in the way of tax remission on exports are now showing their effect. There is noticeable a growing sense of optimism spreading through industrial and trade circles which it is hoped will continue to activate managements and penetrate also to the ordinary industrial workers on whom, in the final analysis, the whole export drive depends.

During the year, Córas Tráchtála extended its activities in the field of export promotion, market research and development and a further extension of these activities is planned in the coming year. I hope shortly to be in a position to introduce the promised Bill to establish Córas Tráchtála as a permanent State agency for the promotion of exports. The current advertising and sales campaign in the United States which commenced in February, 1958 was reflected in the last quarter of 1958 when exports of Irish whiskey increased by 12.8 per cent. over the exports for the corresponding period in 1957.

More significant, perhaps, is the fact that for the same period the American importers of the principal brands of Irish whiskey recorded a sales increase of 52.73 per cent. over the corresponding period for 1957. To continue and extend that campaign a sum of £80,000 is being provided this year. From available information it is fair to say that a situation has now been reached which is highly favourable to the establishment of Irish whiskey as a permanent dollar earner. The situation needs to be vigorously exploited while the opportunity is there. It is essential that the extended campaign which will be conducted by Córas Tráchtála should be supported by intensified brand advertising by the individual distillers. The needs of home industry necessitated the continuance of control on the export of certain materials and control is also applied to certain items of a strategic character.

I am sure Deputies will join with me in congratulating the Irish Trade Union movement on the successful culmination of its efforts to achieve unity. The movement can now give expression to a united view on major national problems and with little doubt this will add immensely to its strength and prestige. Those of us who have had the opportunity of personal contact with them know that our trade union leaders are very responsible people. I feel sure that they will ensure that the movement will exercise its newly found strength with intelligence and forbearance and thereby contribute materially towards the success of the Government's plan for national economic expansion.

It is satisfactory to be able to report that we have enjoyed a year of comparative quite in industrial relations. That is due in no small measure to the work of the Labour Court and to the fact that employers and workers continue to secure the assistance of the court for the peaceful settlement of trade disputes. During 1958 the court made recommendations in 136 cases and the vast majority of these recommendations were accepted by both employers and workers. In addition to contributing towards the settlement of trade disputes by the issuing of recommendations, the court was able to arrange for the peaceful solving of a considerable number of disputes by means of conciliation conferences. At my request the court is continuing its efforts to evolve, in consultation with the interests directly concerned, a satisfactory solution to the dispute in connection with the container traffic in the port of Dublin. That dispute has been with the court for over a year and has proved to be a most thorny problem. I am not without hope, however, that the court will be able within the next few months to promote a reasonable and equitable solution.

I mentioned last year that I was co-operating with the European Productivity Agency in setting up a body to carry out research work in connection with human problems arising out of technological advances. The committee, which includes social scientists as well as representatives of workers and employers, has since been established. Members of that committee recently attended a seminar in Zurich entitled "Fitting the Job to the Worker", which was organised by the European Productivity Agency. The committee is now actively studying the whole subject and its application to industry in this country with a view to determining the most suitable lines for research work.

I think that it would be appropriate that I should refer briefly to the International Labour Organisation this year as it is the 40th anniversary of the founding of that organisation. As the House is aware, the object of that organisation is to secure improvements in the conditions and living standards of all workers. In its earlier years, the emphasis was on the preparation of international standards in the form of conventions about hours of work, safety, health, the protection of women and young workers, and so forth. These conventions are open to ratification by the member States, and ratifying States are required to ensure that their domestic legislation and national practice are in accordance with the provisions of the conventions ratified. Since the end of the last World War, there has been a shift in emphasis in the I.L.O. from standard-setting towards activities of a more advisory nature. It is now spending a considerable amount of money on technical assistance for undeveloped countries.

Ireland, as the House knows, has been a member of the organisation for a very long time. Every year we send a tripartite delegation, representing Government, employers and workers, to the annual conference. These delegations have always taken a very active part in the deliberations of the conference. In all, the I.L.O. has adopted 111 conventions and Ireland has ratified 39 of these. Many of those we did not ratify relate to matters not applicable to our conditions at all— conventions dealing with colonial territories, plantation workers and the treatment of indigenous populations. Furthermore, while the principles underlying many of the conventions are fully accepted and indeed practised in Ireland, we have not been able to ratify them because our domestic legislation differs in some minor details from the provisions of the conventions, or because the matter of wages arrangements and similar matters are handled in this country by the process of collective bargaining. Nevertheless, our record in regard to ratification is quite satisfactory. Only 14 of the 80 member States of the I.L.O. have ratified a greater number of conventions.

Ireland will continue to take an active part in the activities of the organisation. We regard it as a most valuable way of ensuring that the Government and both sides of industry will keep in touch with international thought and practice in labour legislation and relations. In modern conditions, it is essential that this country should not become isolated from the most up-to-date trends in these fields.

Deputies will be aware that I recently made an Order bringing the Office Premises Act, 1958, into operation as from 1st of last month. The Act provides in a general way that the occupiers of offices employing more than five persons must provide suitable and adequate conditions in their premises for the safety, health and welfare of their workers. I am also empowered to make regulations setting out the minimum standards to be observed in regard to various aspects of office accommodation. I have made such regulations as regards the minimum space to be allowed to workers, the minimum temperature to be maintained in offices and the minimum sanitary, washing and cloakroom facilities. These regulations will come into operation on 1st September next. Regulations dealing with the standard of lighting in offices are at present being prepared and they also will come into operation on 1st September. A summary of the main features of the Act and the regulations has been prepared in my Department and is available to the public free of charge.

I should like to take the opportunity of expressing appreciation of the valuable assistance given to me by the advisory council established under the Act in the formulation of these regulations to which I have referred. That Council has held 13 meetings since it was established in April of last year. It includes representatives of workers, employers and sanitary authorities under an independent chairman. Its function is to advise me on matters relating to the administration and enforcement of the Act. They have not had an easy task. As Deputies are aware, the legislation is very largely a pioneering measure, and the Council were breaking new ground in the consideration of the recommendations which it should submit for standards dealing with the well-being of office workers.

During the past year, activities under the Factories Acts were also maintained at a high level. Factory inspectors carried out almost 15,000 visits to about 9,000 factories. It will be appreciated that some factories had to be visited more than once to determine whether defects noticed during earlier visits had been put right. The inspectors have reported to me that they are continuing to get the co-operation of the vast majority of factory occupiers in their task of achieving the highest possible standard of safety, health and welfare in factories. The regulations under the Factories Acts are being revised and modernised and I hope during this year to promulgate new regulations for the building and dock industries in relation to the use of electrical plant and equipment. In the preparation of these regulations, the advice of the factories advisory council will be available.

I am sorry to say that progress in regard to the establishment of safety committees by workers continues to be slow. So far, these have been established in only about 20 factories. At my request, the Congress of Irish Trade Unions is now considering what steps can be taken to promote a livelier interest by workers and their trade unions in this matter. Experience, both here and abroad, has shown that very worthwhile results can be achieved by safety committees in reducing the incidence of accidents in factories.

Deputies will recall that the new Apprenticeship Bill received its Second Reading towards the end of last year. Since then, the detailed provisions of the Bill have been exhaustively examined by a joint committee of employers' and workers' representatives under the chairmanship of an officer of my Department. The joint committee have made 32 agreed recommendations for the amendment of the Bill. Amendments to give effect to all but two of these recommendations are being circulated. Where conflicting recommendations were made, the existing provisions of the Bill will be allowed to stand for the consideration of the House.

The Restrictive Trade Practices Act has been in operation now for six years and I think it is true to say that in that period it has enabled substantial progress to be made in eliminating the most objectionable features of restrictive practices in many trades. Practical experience suggests that some modifications of the Act are desirable in relation to the scope of public inquiries which may be undertaken by the commission and the procedure for the review by the commission of the operation of Ministerial Orders made under the Act. I have accordingly decided to promote legislation to amend the 1953 Act in these respects, and I hope to bring that measure to the House later in this year.

In this country, the law with regard to hire purchase was amended and brought up to date by the Hire Purchase Act, 1946. Primarily designed to protect the interests of persons who hire or acquire goods under hire purchase or credit sale agreements, that Act establishes and defines the rights and liabilities between sellers and buyers of goods and also deals with the powers of the Courts in legal proceedings arising out of hire purchase transactions. A detailed examination is being made of the manner in which the 1946 Act is operated. That examination reveals that certain changes in the law are desirable. A new Bill, incorporating the amendments which I consider to be necessary, is at present in course of preparation and will, I hope, reach the Dáil this year.

I think I should refer at some greater length to the situation which has developed, or looks like developing, in regard to the European Free Trade Area. The negotiations for the establishment of the European Free Trade Area which had been going on from early in 1957 continued throughout 1958 under the supervision of an inter-governmental committee comprised of Ministers representing the 17 O.E.E.C. countries. The negotiations were suspended in December last, following a statement by the French Government that the Free Trade Area on the lines which had been under discussion would not be acceptable to them.

At that meeting of the Council of the O.E.E.C. in December, the British Paymaster-General, who had been chairman of the inter-governmental committee, reported to the Council of the O.E.E.C. that the committee had been unable to secure the establishment of a European Free Trade Area to take effect parallel with the Treaty of Rome.

The Treaty of Rome, which set up the European Economic Community, was, of course, not affected by the suspension of the Free Trade Area negotiations. Under that Treaty, the six signatory countries reduced their customs duty by 10 per cent. in favour of one another on 1st January last and, likewise, they enlarged their industrial quotas by 20 per cent. and raised all their small or nil quotas to figures representing three per cent. of their national production of the goods concerned. These are the first of a series of tariff reductions and quota increases which each of the six is committed to operate until 14 years from now, at the outside, all the trade barriers between them are removed and the six countries of the Community will, in fact, be a common market protected against the outside world by a common tariff and operating a common commercial policy in their relations with other countries. Some of the O.E.E.C. countries outside the Community were deeply concerned at the emergence of what they regarded as trade discrimination against them by the Community countries, particularly in goods subject to quota.

Between January and April last, discussions went on between Britain and France to see if, pending the conclusion of a satisfactory multilateral agreement, increased quotas could be negotiated for goods of special interest to the two countries. When these discussions were started, the intention was that any arrangement made between these two countries could be used as a pattern for other bilateral arrangements and also to operate until some form of long term European Economic Association to replace the Free Trade Area would be negotiated.

The official Anglo-French talks finished in April and finished with agreement for increasing certain quotas by each country in favour of the others. Details of the agreement were conveyed confidentially to us and to the Governments of the other O.E.E.C. countries outside the Community, in accordance with the understanding which was reached within the O.E.E.C. some months ago. Certain other of the O.E.E.C. countries have also been negotiating with France for the purpose of making temporary bilateral arrangements on the pattern of the Anglo-French arrangement. Discussions with France concerning our trade arrangements with that country are, in fact, in progress this week.

Deputies are aware that I went, yesterday, to London to discuss with the British Paymaster-General, who represents the British Government in Free Trade Area matters, proposals which have been put forward by the Scandinavian countries for a Free Trade Area embracing six or seven West European countries outside the Common Market and that my aim in arranging these discussions was to ascertain the British attitude to these proposals and to discuss their implications in relation to Anglo-Irish trade. I should, perhaps, make clear that these Scandinavian proposals, if I may so describe them, have not yet been the subject of serious negotiation, although we understand that detailed discussions of them at official level is about to begin in the early future. It is, of course, by no means certain that an agreement will be found to be possible at all, but I understand that the intention is that, if these discussions at official level should reveal the likelihood of agreement, further negotiations at Ministerial level will then be arranged.

Deputies, perhaps, may have seen in some of this morning's British newspapers statements which indicate that the British Government have decided to participate in these negotiations and intend to work for the conclusion of an agreement for the establishment of a limited Free Trade Area embracing these six or seven countries. I have stated that it is not certain that an agreement will be found to be possible, but I think that in our consideration of this matter at this stage we must assume that agreement will be reached. All that exists at the moment, I understand, is a series of proposals prepared in Sweden, which have not yet been subjected to any very critical examination, but the general nature of the proposals is known and the general intention of those who will be sitting down in the near future to consider them.

These proposals contemplate a complete dismantling of industrial tariffs at a much more rapid rate and to be completed in a much shorter time than is visualised in the European Economic Community or is provided for in the Rome Treaty. The proposals relate only to industrial tariffs and it is apparently contemplated that, between the countries participating in this agreement, all such tariffs will be completely eliminated within five years, that some of them will be eliminated over a much shorter period and, indeed, in other instances, that tariffs will be removed immediately on the completion of the agreement. It is clear, also, that the proposals involve the retention by each of the countries participating in the agreement of their full commercial freedom; that is to say, there is no intention to establish a common external tariff or to concert their economic policies. What is intended is a Free Trade Area, by and large, much the same in character as was being discussed in Paris for the whole of Western Europe and not an economic community such as the Rome Treaty aims to establish.

I found that the British Government hold the view, which I expressed in the Dáil last week, that the ultimate objective should continue to be the conclusion of an agreement covering all the 17 O.E.E.C. countries, concluded under the auspices of the O.E.E.C. They apparently share the opinion, which has been expressed in many quarters, that the objective of a comprehensive agreement under O.E.E.C. auspices is more likely to be attained by the formation of a second trading group, as is envisaged in the Scandinavian proposals, than by any other method now open. Indeed, Mr. Maudling, the Paymaster-General, expressed himself to me as fairly optimistic about the eventual outcome of these events.

I have made it clear here—and I think I should reiterate—that we would much prefer that all these negotiations could be brought back under the auspices of O.E.E.C. and, indeed, would like to see that done forthwith but I must be realistic and say that does not seem likely to happen. It seems, I think, clear that the whole trend of events throughout the world is towards the formation of economic groupings between nations. Indeed, it appears likely that, in the future, small nations like ours will have difficulty in maintaining viable economies outside the ambit of wider economic combinations.

That conclusion, if it is correct, must have considerable implications for this country, and must obviously influence our economic thinking, particularly in the field of external trade relations. However much we may regrete the emergence of what may prove to be two competing economic groups in Europe, there is nothing we can do to prevent it beyond expressing the hope that the belief which has been expressed that it will be eventually possible to bring them together and get back to a comprehensive Western European agreement will prove to be well-founded.

At first sight and in advance of further progress in the negotiations, it does not seem that we have any interest in these Scandinavian proposals. They offer us no advantage in the British market which we have not got already under existing trade agreements. The opportunities for increasing our trade to the Scandinavian countries, to Austria or Switzerland, do not appear to be considerable and a recent survey carried out by Córas Tráchtála in Sweden would support the conclusion that we could not hope to get in a free trade régime with these countries increased trade on a scale which could come near to compensating us for the consequences on our industrial development of rapidly removing all our protective tariffs and quotas on industrial products from these countries including Britain.

In regard to the question of our participation in the initial negotiations on these proposals at Stockholm, that does not appear to be desirable. I presume that we would be invited if we requested it but it would not seem right that we should request an invitation to attend at the negotiations if we do not seriously contemplate joining the agreement, and the implications of such a request, the suggestion——

Would the Minister pardon me? I want to ask a question.

I would prefer the Deputy to do so by way of speech later.

The implication of making the request, the suggestion that we could seriously contemplate entering into an agreement which would involve the immediate removal of some tariffs and the rapid dismantling of all the rest, could have a very disturbing effect on our industrial development. It would be wrong to give, either abroad or at home, the impression that we could consider such a course. In our thinking on this matter we are keeping in mind the fact that this new, smaller free trade area contemplated in the Scandinavian proposals does not involve any concerting of economic policies and that separate trade agreements, if needed, can be negotiated by us with each of the participating countries and, of course, that could also be considered at the appropriate stage with the six-country European economic community.

I know that some question has been raised in the minds of Deputies by the presence at the earlier negotiations in Oslo and the probable presence, at the resumed negotiations in Stockholm of the representatives of Portugal. Everybody knows that at Paris, during the negotiations on the Free Trade Area plan Portugal indicated that she could not accept the full obligations contemplated and was, in fact, seeking modification of the obligations in a manner not very dissimilar to our own ideas in that regard.

It has, however, been quite definitely stated by the British Paymaster-General and on behalf of the Scandinavian sponsors of the proposals that in this new agreement, if it is made, there will be no modification of the agreement for any country and that only those will be permitted to participate in the arrangement who are prepared to accept the full obligations from the outset. The possible consequences of the conclusion of an agreement on the lines suggested by the Scandinavians on Anglo-Irish trade is now the subject of intensive study. It is our intention that there will be further discussions on that aspect of the matter in London in the not far distant future.

I have spoken at considerable length and there are still many activities of the Department to which I think Deputies will expect reference in my introductory speech. I shall run over them as quickly as possible. The Estimate for Aviation and Meteorological Services shows an increase of £468,530 as compared with the sum granted last year. The principal reasons for these increases are the constructional works which are in progress at Shannon Airport, the provision for the new Cork city airport, provision for the Shannon Free Airport Development Company and increased contributions to international aviation organisations consequent on our emergence as an operator in the transatlantic field.

In the case of Shannon Airport, aircraft landings last year at 11,600 represented an increase of ten per cent. on the number of aircraft that used the Airport in 1957. The number of passengers handled there was almost 500,000 which was in excess of the corresponding figure for 1957. In addition to Aerlinte, B.O.A.C., K.L.M. Lufthansa, P.A.A., Seaboard and Western Airlines, Swissair, T.C.A. and T.W.A. operated scheduled services through Shannon. Total capital expenditure at Shannon to date amounts to £3,250,000. In the last financial year for which the figure has been computed, the year ended 31st March, 1958, the total revenue at the Airport was £598,500, and the expenditure was £520,500, the operation of the Airport in that year showing profit of £78,000.

The Sales and Catering Services also had a record year. Their turnover was substantially greater than in the previous year. Total dollar income was almost three million dollars.

Work on the construction of runways to accommodate jet aircraft was commenced in August last and the runways will be ready by the time the new jet aircraft come into operation generally. Other complementary works have also been undertaken. Some have been completed and work is at present in progress on a scheme of extensions and improvements to the terminal building. A contract has been placed for the erection of an aircraft hangar and it is expected that will be completed towards the end of the year. It is intended to lease the hangar to Seaboard and Western Airlines who propose to transfer their European maintenance activities to Shannon. The hangar was badly needed at the Airport and it is expected that it will be of considerable benefit.

Plans are being prepared for a new freight building as it is necessary to encourage the use of Shannon for freight traffic and for that purpose modern freight facilities are desirable. I do not propose to speak at any length concerning Shannon Free Airport Development Company. As the Dáil is aware, a Bill to establish that company on a statutory basis will be coming along and we can deal on that occasion with the intentions behind its establishment and the scope of its activities.

Dublin Airport also had a successful year with an increase in the number of aircraft landings and a 12 per cent. increase in the number of passengers using the airport. The main terminal building at Dublin is no longer adequate for the volume of traffic and a new terminal building has been constructed. It is now almost completed and will be in use in the next few weeks. Cargo traffic also increased at Dublin Airport by about 100 per cent. over the past five years and to provide for the present volume of traffic and to cater for future foreseeable expansion, a new cargo terminal building has recently been completed.

The Cork Airport site at Ballygarvan covers about 500 acres, all of which has been acquired from the former owners and contracts have been placed for the preliminary site preparation work. It is anticipated that the airport will be in operation in 1961.

As I anticipated in my statement last year, Aer Lingus suffered a financial set-back in the year ended 31st March, 1958, when a number of factors including the participation of other operators on routes formerly served by Aer Lingus and the opening up of new services to the Continent combined to reduce the surplus on operating account of £226,700 in 1956-57 to £33,719 in 1957-58. I am happy to be able to report that the position improved considerably last year. In the first half of the year, the surplus on operating account was almost £100,000 in excess of that for the corresponding period of the previous year and it is hoped that when the accounts for the full year become available, they will show that that improvement was maintained.

The Aerlinte transatlantic service between Shannon and New York was inaugurated last year and was extended to Boston in October. During the coming summer, the service will operate daily in each direction. The service, in conjunction with the services operated by Aer Lingus, provides a link between New York and Boston on the one hand and points in Britain and on the Continent, on the other. During the first 10 months of operation—which ended on 31st March— Aerlinte carried 14,781 transatlantic passengers. As the House knows, the Aerlinte service is operated with aircraft and crews leased under agreement with the American airline, Seaboard and Western. That operation is limited by order of the United States Civil Aeronautics Board to 1st May, 1960. The long-term future of the service was considered by the Board of Aerlinte and the conclusion was reached that the service should be continued eventually by aircraft owned and operated by Aerlinte and they recommended that the aircraft to be acquired for that purpose should be three medium-sized jet aircraft.

They considered that the most suitable type for the needs of the service would be the Boeing Model 720 aircraft. Following discussion of the proposals of the company in my Department, they were approved by the Government. It is expected that the jet aircraft will be delivered in time to permit of their introduction to the service at the end of 1960 and consideration is at present being given to the arrangements to be made for the operation of the service from the period 1st May, 1960 to the end of that year.

In order to meet the future financial requirements of the air companies, the Government have decided to introduce legislation to increase substantially the authorised share capital of Aer Rianta and that legislation will come before the Dáil shortly.

Could the Minister say what the finances of Aer Rianta in those first 10 months of operation are likely to be?

I should prefer to give the whole picture to the House which I shall do when introducing the Bill I have mentioned.

If Deputies want to raise any question concerning the activities of Bord Fáilte or any other sections of the Department or bodies working through the Department which I have not mentioned, I shall deal with their points when concluding. Deputies will have noted that I have dealt only with matters which come directly under the Department of Industry and Commerce: I have not attempted to discuss national economic development in its wider aspects. The Dáil has had an opportunity of doing so on the Budget and will have further opportunities before the end of the session.

I move:—

That the Estimate be referred back for reconsideration.

The Minister has given a very lengthy review of the activities of his Department. I do not know whether this might be regarded as his swan song as Minister for Industry and Commerce. If it is, it is only natural that he should attempt to paint as attractive a picture as possible of the state of our economy.

While the Minister dealt with a great number of matters that come within the ambit of his Department, there was one notable exception. The Minister made no reference to the present extremely high cost of living, to the fact that over the last two years, and particularly over the last 12 months, there has been a further rise in the consumer price index and to the fact that the cost of living is now pressing heavily on all sections of the community. From the figures published in Economic Statistics issued prior to the Budget it was apparent that the cost of living continued to rise all during last year. There had been a further increase in the consumer price index from 111.5 in 1957 to 117 in February of this year—ten points higher than it was in February, 1957, before the change of Government.

That increase affected in particular the prices of essential commodities. I should have thought that there would have been some explanation offered as to what has happened to the level of prices, particularly prices affecting essentials such as bread, flour and butter. In that context it has to be remembered that during the same period less was paid to our producers for wheat and to our milk suppliers for milk supplied to creameries. Simultaneously with these imposts, the people have had to bear the additional burden of increased bus fares. Those who had the misfortune to fall ill had to bear increased hospital charges.

In so far as domestic prices are concerned, the relevant factors are within the control of the Government, particularly in relation to the price of home-grown wheat and milk supplied to the creameries. At the same time the Government have had the advantage of a continuous drop in import prices. On average, import prices over the last two years show a five per cent. reduction as compared with the price level in February, 1957. That reduction has been available to the advantage of the Government. Although that is so, and although we are paying our own producers less for the two commodities I have mentioned, there has nevertheless been a rise in the cost of living over the last two years. That rise has continued right through this year and up to the time of the last published figure. That figure, of course, does not include a variety of extra burdens that our people have been obliged to carry both directly and indirectly.

In so far as the figure reflects the economic indices and the existing price level of commodities in general use, there has been—this has continued right up to the present time—an increase in the cost of the ordinary commodities used by all sections of the community. The ordinary necessaries of life—food, transport, what are termed "health charges"—all cost substantially more than they cost a year ago and substantially more than they cost two years ago.

It is generally agreed that industrial progress has not been sufficiently rapid to provide employment for those seeking work each year or those who leave the land. Despite the very considerable inducements offered by successive Governments the rate of progress is disappointing in many respects. It is quite inadequate to absorb the numbers who come either fresh on to the labour market or who leave other occupations. The present and the past rate of emigration indicates the magnitude of the problem. On the basis of the figures which have been compiled and published in recent publications—notably that by the Secretary of the Department of Finance and the normal statistics—it appears that the average annual rate of emigration is something in the region of 40,000. The numbers absorbed into industry over a lengthy period stand at about 4,000 per annum.

It is true, as the Minister remarked, that there was last year an increase in the numbers employed in industry— that is, in industry as defined in the industrial census. In relation to the figures for insurable industrial employment statistics of the actual numbers employed present a less satisfactory account. In Table XII of the Economic Statistics issued prior to the Budget it will be seen that in 1958 there were 32,000 fewer people employed as compared with 1956. A considerable drop took place not only in those employed on the land but also in building and construction work.

The actual numbers employed in manufacturing industry showed an increase of 2,000 over the figure for 1957, but the figure of 188,000 was the same as that for 1956. The over-all picture showed a drop of 32,000 persons in employment in 1958 as compared with 1956. If the figure is taken for the total number in the labour force—that is, those not currently at work as well as those actually employed—the drop is still 25,000, the difference between 1,216,000 in 1956 and 1,191,000 last year.

When account is taken of the fact that, according to a reply given in the British House of Commons last year, for the first ten months of 1958, 48,000 new employment permits were issued to persons from this country who had gone to Britain in search of work— which I suppose in round figures shows that about 50,000 new applicants for permits were employed in Britain last year—we have some idea of the magnitude of the problem which confronts the country. For that reason, the publication by the Government of the Programme for Economic Expansion, and the booklet entitled Economic Development which was prepared by the Secretary to the Department of Finance in collaboration with officers of other Departments, must be welcomed. It is, in many ways, a tribute to the work of the previous Government in so far as it catalogues a number of schemes which were initiated by the previous Government, as well as by this Government. It shows what is being undertaken and what schemes are under way, as well as generally indicating Government policy.

At the same time, it appears from figures that have been published recently, from the general impression given by those figures, that something more requires to be done in order to stimulate greater economic activity, and to encourage the further expansion and development of industry, as well as a further expansion of our economy generally. One of the useful conclusions which can be drawn from the various examinations conducted by this economic survey carried out by the various Departments is that they spotlight what has occurred in several instances. In the course of my remarks I want to refer to particular industries and generally to spotlight what has occurred in certain cases, and to see if there are any proposals for expansion in those cases as well as an explanation of what has occurred in so far as there has been a decline in some.

One of the matters referred to in Economic Development is the decline in what were regarded as traditional exports. Reference is made to biscuits and cakes and certain very significant figures have been produced. Chapter 17 reads:—

The biscuit industry was once one of our strongest export industries, sending its products all over the globe. In 1929 exports of biscuits exceeded £500,000 and imports were only £11,000. Exports had declined by 1940 to £298,000 while imports increased to £19,000. In 1957, exports were valued at only £86,000—

of which the bulk went to the Six Counties—

—while imports were valued at £120,000.

It goes on to say:—

The substitution of an import trade for a once flourishing export trade is most regrettable.

Later, mention is made of the fact that if capital is a limiting factor, the Industrial Credit Company should be able to provide the necessary facilities. It is satisfactory to note that the published figures of what is, I suppose, the largest biscuit factory in this country, show an improvement, but it seems to me that, very often, in our search for new industries, and our desire to promote industrial undertakings, inadequate attention has been paid to existing industries. If there is an explanation for that, I should be glad to hear it and whether the Department of Industry and Commerce, as a result of discussions or information—not necesarily the details of new firms, but generally—consider there are factors which militate against the maintenance of what was once a valuable trade and if any steps can be taken to develop it.

That brings me to the other specific case I wish to mention, which the Minister referred to in the course of his remarks. In pre-war years, the exports of spirits amounted to an average of 230,000 gallons per year and that included exports to Britain, the Six Counties and the United States. That refers to the three pre-war years 1937, 1938 and 1939. After the war, exports grew steadily from 1948 to 1951 and reached a peak in the latter year of 438,000 gallons, valued at £558,000. Here is the significant point. "They declined steeply in the next three years but have since begun to recover."

I believe that the decline in our exports of whiskey is a direct result of the heavy taxation on spirits which was imposed in the 1952 Budget. I know that the rate of taxation does not affect the exports, but it has a limiting effect, in so far as once the trade becomes depressed here at home, and once heavy taxation is imposed, it causes a reaction, and one of the features of the distilling trade is that the distillers are obliged to carry very heavy stocks for lengthy periods. It seems to me to be unsound Government policy, and unsound national policy, so to raise taxation as to cause that effect. There can be no other conclusion but that the heavy taxation imposed by the 1952 Budget had an effect on the export trade.

We find that last year a special sum of £25,000 was given to C.T.T. for the purpose of developing a trade which was at least going in the right direction up to 1951 and which then declined. It is gratifying to note from the figures given by the Minister that there was a rise of 12 per cent. between the last quarter of 1957 and 1958. I believe it is bad national policy to allow taxation to reach a level at which it has a reaction on a valuable trade, a reaction which, according to all economic experts as well as those who consider this matter but who might not come within the category of experts—it is a trade which is based on home-grown raw materials which produces an article second to none and provides male employment—brings us back to where we were seven or eight years ago, and which even this year involves further expenditure in order to stimulate development in that direction.

One of the matters which come within the responsibility of the Department of Industry and Commerce is the tourist trade. The income derived from tourism is considerable, but, for some reason or reasons, it always appears to me that there is little national consciousness of the importance of the tourist trade to the economy. To a certain extent, I feel that may have been due to the ineffectiveness of the old Tourist Board which, for many years, had an unenviable reputation. While this is not so now, and has not been so for some time, the legacy may still hamper the exploitation by Bord Fáilte of the country's tourist potential. In that connection, I believe that sufficient inducements are not yet offered to hotel keepers and others to provide accommodation, that the taxation relief which is available is not sufficient because of the shortness of the tourist season here, and that serious consideration should be given to providing further inducements, either by relief or by the provision of whatever loans or other facilities are necessary.

One of the disappointing features is the lack of initiative in the matter of resort development, in many cases. I understand from recent statements that it is proposed this year to provide a substantially larger sum for resort development, for the provision of amenities at seaside and other tourist resorts. In that connection, I believe that while the major resorts are obviously the most important, consideration should be given, wherever possible, to the provision of facilities in smaller places. In some cases, these smaller resorts or areas have no other industry, no other means of attracting business, and anything that will encourage development, in the sense of bringing visitors and providing a stimulus to trade by the influx of visitors, whether from here or abroad, is to be welcomed. Very often because of the mere size of a proposal, because it was a small proposal, it did not attract attention and was not considered adequate to warrant development by Bord Fáilte and the authorities concerned. It is for that reason I believe that the use of the moneys which are now being provided should be dispersed as widely as possible.

I especially want to urge on the Minister to press forward with the scheme for the development of Dún Laoghaire harbour facilities, a scheme which has been under consideration for a considerable time. It is one of the main gateways to the country, a gateway through which a great number of visitors come and, whilst facilities there have been improved, it is obvious, if we are fully to exploit the potentialities of the tourist trade, much greater development is necessary. That scheme for proper development should include, if necessary, facilities for a ferry service. In any case, it is a matter of urgency. Because of the nature of the work it will take a considerable time and, for that reason, discussions and arrangements between the authorities concerned should be pressed forward with the maximum speed.

During the course of the Minister's review, reference was made to grants provided by Foras Tionscal for the establishment of industries under the Undeveloped Areas Act. In that connection, I wish to refer to the proposals concerning Shannon Airport. It may well be possible to have a fuller discussion on this when the measure is introduced here, but it does seem to me that despite the very satisfactory figures of landings and activities generally at the Airport last year, we should carefully consider the future prospects of all those who are employed at Shannon. Reference has been made in the publication Economic Development to decentralisation. It says, at page 159, paragraph 10:

"It has been general policy for many years to favour the decentralisation of industry with the aim of bringing to areas away from the larger centres of population some share in the employment and other advantages resulting from industrial development. It is time to consider whether this is a correct policy to maintain in the conditions which we are now facing."

I believe that a striking case in point is Shannon. While everyone is anxious to see employment maintained at Shannon at the highest possible level, technical development in aircraft, with the possibility of Shannon being overflown, has, for a long time, agitated the minds of all concerned, as well as the possible consequences of such an eventuality on employment there.

While attractive inducements have been offered for industrial development, so far these inducements would appear to have had small returns. I want to stress the point: is it not time to look at this afresh, to consider whether this policy has achieved, or is likely to achieve, the aims desired? Would it not be better to offer these attractive arrangements to anyone who is prepared to establish an industry, or industries, either at Limerick or Ennis, where advantage would be taken of existing facilities and where, for the most part, all those at present employed at Shannon already reside? In addition to the labour force available, housing, schools and other facilities are in existence.

It seems to me this is the realistic approach to the problem, that unless the raw materials for a specific industry are imported by air, or unless the manufactured commodities produced there are exported through the Airport, then of itself there is no attraction in establishing an industry at Shannon, or of endeavouring by artificial stimuli to induce people to establish industries there. It seems to me that the obvious solution to the problem is to provide at either or both of the two places mentioned, the city of Limerick and adjacent to it or the town of Ennis, the same inducements to industrialists to establish industries in either of these places as are offered at the Airport.

One of the matters which come within the ambit of this Department is mining development. The satisfactory account which was given of the developments at Avoca and elsewhere justifies the decisions taken to exploit the mineral deposits there. One of the matters referred to in the course of the survey of economic development is the geological data available at present and which were considered in many cases out-of-date. If there are any prospects of further development here it is considered necessary to have up-to-date data available. A recommendation was made in the course of this survey that if necessary additional funds should be provided so that an up-to-date survey might be made of the resources and of the potentialities.

Because up to the present no minerals have been found in many parts of the country or because there is a general impression that our mineral resources are not considerable there is a somewhat pessimistic approach to it. Nevertheless changed conditions, modern methods, and so forth, have made it possible to exploit commercially some of the existing minerals and it is for that reason I believe our geological survey should be developed to such an extent that a modern survey could be conducted to establish whether or not minerals exist or, if they do exist, whether it is possible to exploit them on a commercial basis.

The reference which the Minister made to the present stage of the free trade negotiations shows that the whole question is still at an inconclusive stage and it is difficult in the absence of anything like full information to express any opinion on the trend of these negotiations. It always seemed to me that the prospect of anything like a Free Trade Area coming into being as was originally understood or envisaged in early references to this matter was far too optimistic. However, no matter what trend these negotiations take our anxiety should be to see that none of our existing trading arrangements is affected adversely. We have certain traditional arrangements. Some of them may not be as important as formerly but we have arrangements, particularly in the case of Britain—they were formerly under Imperial preference, which I think is now known as Commonwealth preference, with members of the British Commonwealth—which offered us certain advantages. In addition we have new trade agreements with continental countries and these bilateral agreements have been negotiated over a number of years. Some of them run for a yearly duration while others run for longer. It is time to consider the results of these trade agreements.

In most cases our trade with the continental countries is heavily adverse and while we have advantages in relation to certain specific exports, we should, when these agreements come up for revision, take care to see that we utilise any powers available to us to penalise those who, for any reason or by whatever means, seek to avail of the advantages of the agreements and leave this country in the position in which we are buying substantially more from continental countries while our exports to those countries remain more or less constant. It is true that we have had over the years an increasing trade with the Continent but although an increase has taken place, there is side by side with that a heavy adverse balance. We should consider the revision of these agreements and certainly any action which can be taken to correct that adverse balance will have the support of the House as well as the support of those directly concerned.

The Department of Industry and Commerce is responsible to a very considerable extent for most of the State companies. In the main, the attitude of these State bodies to the public and to individuals amongst the public is satisfactory, whether it is at a high level or a low level. Occasionally, however, events occur which show an intolerant or a dictatorial attitude in dealing either with individuals or with groups. It should be impressed on the directors, who in turn should pass it on to the staffs of these bodies, that they are in a privileged position by virtue of legislation passed by this House and that while they have the responsibility to ensure that the affairs of the body concerned are not adversely affected by people exploiting individual grievances, and so on, the maximum courtesy should be extended in all cases. There is a far greater obligation on State companies to show an example in this regard, more especially when they are in most cases dealing with individuals, many of them simple people who have not available to them the contacts or in some cases do not know how to go about raising a problem or having it dealt with.

While in the main the directors, the management and staff of all State companies display an admirable attitude in these matters I believe that is not so in some cases which come to mind, whether they are dealing with individual cases, with a group, with a large number of residents in a locality or with particular interests. Every care should be taken to ensure that, while the company, the directors or the individual, as the case may be, maintain and are in a position to maintain and safeguard the welfare of the undertaking concerned, full consideration should be given to the interests of individual persons whether they are seeking advice, seeking to have some problem settled, seeking an additional service or whatever may arise in the course of their business with the undertaking.

The fact that there has been a lack of confidence in the capacity of the Government to solve the problems which confront the country is, I believe, due to a considerable extent to the propaganda which this Government carried on when in opposition, that, if elected, and if there was a change of Government, many of the problems then affecting the people would be solved. It is not possible by a mere change of Government to solve some of the problems we have been discussing today and to surmount many of the difficulties which affect the economy, particularly the difficulties of providing employment.

If the figures made available just before the Budget and if the general picture presented by economic statistics of various kinds as well as the publication of the Programme for Economic Expansion indicate that there is a realisation generally of these problems, then it may do something to help in solving them. One is struck by the impression that the Government are complacent about conditions and about the general state of the economy. The figures I quoted today and the fact that, despite favourable conditions last year, despite stable economic conditions, despite the fact that the terms of trade were in our favour, despite the fact that we had for over two years the advantage of falling import prices, comparing the figures for last year and 1956, the gross national product showed a reduction of about £2,000,000 are a warning that the efforts made so far and the policy adopted so far have been insufficient to provide remedies necessary to solve the problems, if we are to provide a better standard of living for more of our people.

I have never held the view that Government action alone can solve these problems. I feel that one of the greatest disservices that can be rendered to a country is the belief that a change of Government, or Government policy, or Ministerial action will provide a remedy. It will require the co-operation not only of the Government but of all sections of the community if we are to provide a better standard of living for all our people. According to available evidence, it seems we have fewer people in employment and fewer people in the country. It may be that some of those who are here are getting a better standard of living but, whatever the reason, the general lack of confidence may be attributed to the propaganda that a change of Government could solve problems. Despite the fact that the Government have a majority in this House, stable economic conditions and a constructive Opposition, nevertheless these problems exist. Unless a maximum effort is made by all sections —by the Government, by other Parties in this House, by employers and trade unions—unless we can utilise the combined wisdom as well as the combined strength of the country to develop the economy, then all plans and proposals, the various schemes referred to in the different publications, will not achieve the objectives which all sections of the community and all sections in political life desire to achieve in order to provide a better standard of living for more of our people.

The fact that attention has been paid to the publication of these programmes is itself satisfactory, in so far as it denotes a realisation of the position. From the proposals contained in Economic Development as well as the Programme for Economic Expansion are concerned, it would appear that the Government have adopted plans and proposals and existing schemes which were operated both by the previous Government and by this Government and that on general lines of economic policy there is a large measure of agreement.

That agreement should as far as possible be widened so as to develop to the maximum extent the economic potential of the country, with a view to ensuring that when economic policies are decided, there will be no sudden or rapid changes such as occurred in the cases I mentioned— particularly in the case of taxation of spirits—which have a retarding effect and an effect which it takes not merely years but money and time and effort to overcome. For that reason, it is satisfactory to find such a wide area of agreement on the Programme for Economic Expansion and in the survey which accompanied it on aims on economic policy as well as on the practical measures which must be taken if the full development which is desired is to be exploited properly and effectively.

We listened today to a speech from the Minister for Industry and Commerce on the activities of his Department for the past 12 months. He spoke for about one and three quarter hours. He referred to many of the activities of his Department. At the end of his speech, I felt we had probably listened to one of the dullest and most pedestrian reviews of the Department of Industry and Commerce I have ever listened to here. The Minister read at length. The most one could listen to was that such and such a thing was under review, such and such a matter was considered, such and such a thing was receiving attention. The only two bright spots in the long and dreary review were that the Whitegate Refinery would be in production in about two months' time and that the Avoca Mining Company is now apparently about to move to the crest of the wave.

Progress reported; Committee to sit again.
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