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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 23 Nov 1960

Vol. 185 No. 1

Transport Bill, 1960—Second Stage.

I move that the Bill be now read a Second Time. The purpose of the Bill is to amend the provisions of Section 23 of the Transport Act, 1958, in relation to the Royal Canal only so that C.I.E. will be empowered to close that canal to navigation on two months' notice; as the law stands at present C.I.E. could not close the canal to navigation unless it had not been used for public navigation for three years or more.

The Royal Canal, about 96 miles in length, extends from the Port of Dublin to the Shannon at Tarmonbarry. It passes through the Counties of Dublin, Kildare, Meath, Westmeath and Longford and served the towns of Dublin, Mullingar and Longford. Longford was served by a branch (about five and a half miles long) from the main line of the canal a few miles from its junction with the Shannon.

The Royal Canal was constructed under the provision of a Charter of Incorporation of the Royal Canal Company under the Great Seal of Ireland in 1789. Ownership of the canal passed to Great Southern Railways Company from the Midland Great Western Railway Company under the Railways Act 1924; and subsequently, ownership passed to C.I.E. under the Transport Act, 1944. Neither C.I.E. nor their predecessor ever operated a commercial transport service on the Royal Canal. Commercial navigation on the canal has in fact ceased since 1951. The Broadstone branch of the canal was closed in 1927 and subsequently filled in. Recently the Longford branch and the section from Spencer Dock, Dublin, to Liffey Junction were closed to navigation. There is no longer access to the canal from the Port of Dublin. During the past 4 years there has been no public navigation on the Royal Canal except in a technical sense, that is to say, by locally owned row-boats or canoes.

In that period the canal had been used on 14 occasions only and the total revenue derived by C.I.E. from tolls in that period amounted only to £10 5s. 1d.

I would have been quite satisfied to allow the position of the Royal Canal to continue as at present until the five year term for the reorganisation of C.I.E. was completed in July, 1963. The question has arisen, however, of the replacement of various road bridges over the canal and it has been found that the cost of replacing these bridges will be increased substantially if they have to be designed to provide for navigation. For example, in the case of the "Dublin" Bridge at Mullingar which is due for immediate reconstruction, the cost of the new bridge will be increased by about £8,000 if it is necessary to provide for navigation. A similar position will arise in respect of other bridges on this canal which must be reconstructed in the near future. If such bridges were to be reconstructed to allow for navigation shortly before the closing of the canal to navigation the Minister for Local Government feels, and rightly so, that the Departments and the Local Authorities concerned would be open to criticism for wasteful exepnditure.

The Minister for Lands is at present giving consideration to the possibility of developing the canals generally for coarse fishing and eel fisheries. The closing of the Royal Canal to navigation will not prejudice any plans in this respect; in fact it should clear the way for further consideration of such plans.

Lest there should be any misunderstanding on the point I would mention that the closure of the Royal Canal to navigation would not affect the other obligations of C.I.E. in relation to it. C.I.E. would continue to be responsible for such matters as drainage and prevention of flooding and if subsequently they should wish to abandon the canal these responsibilities will be transferred, if necessary, to some other body or bodies. Needless to say, permission to abandon the canal would not be given without due regard to interests in respect of which C.I.E. retains responsibilities nor would such permission be given unless it were clear beforehand that abandonment would not prejudice proposals for development of the canal for other purposes.

As to the future of the Royal Canal, the present intentions are that the portion of the canal between Liffey Junction and Mullingar will be retained indefinitely for water supply purposes; the portion of the canal west of Mullingar will also be retained for the time being, but ultimately it may have to be abandoned unless it is found possible to develop it for some other purposes. The portion of the canal between the Liffey and Liffey Junction and the Longford branch have already been closed to navigation.

It will be noted that this Bill deals solely with the Royal Canal. The position in relation to navigation on the Grand Canal was explained by my predecessor in the course of the debate in this House on the Transport Act, 1958. The provisions of that Bill as introduced would have enabled C.I.E. to close a canal to navigation on one month's notice. It was, however, strongly felt by various interests that the Grand Canal still had a potential for future development, and to meet those views the Bill was amended to provide that C.I.E. would close a canal to navigation only where it had not been used for public navigation for three years or more. The intention of that amendment was that those interests which supported the retention of the canal would thereby have an opportunity of demonstrating that the canals would be used to an extent sufficient to justify their retention for navigation; and in relation to the Grand Canal that situation will remain unchanged at least until the end of the 5-year period allowed to C.I.E. under the Transport Act, 1958, for reorganisation of the transport services.

In all these circumstances and bearing in mind the urgent necessity to provide for reconstruction of certain bridges over the Royal Canal, I consider that the legal requirement to keep the canal open to navigation should now be repealed and, therefore, I recommend that the House give a Second Reading to this Bill.

In the main there are three points arising for consideration in connection with this legislation. One is navigation; the second is fishing rights; and the third is water supply purposes and it strikes me as somewhat ominous for the future, in connection with water supplies, that the Minister says that portion of the canal between Liffey Junction and Mullingar "will be retained indefinitely for water supply purposes". The rest of that is very much in the air, with the Minister saying that portion will also be retained "for the time being but ultimately it may have to be abandoned". I think that is a warning that it will be abandoned but it is not thought politic to say that at the moment.

The Minister also deals with certain amenities and properties connected with coarse fishing and eel fisheries, but we are left in the dark about them. He states: "The Minister for Lands is at present giving consideration to the possibility of developing the canals generally for coarse fishing and eel fisheries. The closing of the Royal Canal to navigation will not prejudice any plans in this respect ..." We shall have to wait and see what will happen in that connection.

With regard to the third question, that of navigation, there does not appear to have been very much made of it in recent years, but it is ominous that the Minister, in the early part of his speech, says the Broadstone branch, which was closed, was subsequently filled in. I am not sure that is not intended to be a warning that the same will happen, following the stopping of navigation on the rest of the canal. A case has been made that the public neglected to use the canal for navigation purposes, and a case has been made that it should be used, but, at a later point in his speech, the Minister says that the cost of replacing bridges over the canal will be more expensive if navigation rights are to be preserved, and he talks about bridges as if they were really going to be built. I do not know if there has been any public announcement of this proposal but I hope there will be some made between now and Committee Stage so that the public mind can become aware of what is proposed and so that we can determine reaction in the areas through which the canal runs.

Generally speaking, there is not much hope, in my reading of this, either from the fishing side or the water supply side. Of course, water supply is of tremendous importance to farmers living along the canal and it is to be hoped that their interests will not be interfered with—that the canal will not be dewatered and filled in. Certainly if that is to happen, there will be a matter of compensation to be considered and a substitute water supply found for them.

This piece of legislation, small as it is, has to be brought into the whole general matter of C.I.E., and C.I.E. are not exactly having a good Press at the present moment. They appear to have fixed firmly in front of their minds the necessity of having a good balance sheet showing as quickly as possible. In that connection, may I say they appear to be forgetting what was stated in this House to be their duty? Their duty is to provide service, and whether their services are completely economic in certain areas, is a different matter.

I remind the Minister of a speech made by the Taoiseach, when he was Minister for Industry and Commerce, in connection with transport legislation in 1956, when he said it was completely wrong to think of these pieces of transport legislation as something designed to save C.I.E. His speech was to the effect that C.I.E. could provide a service, a nation-wide service, whether by land or some other form of transport, for both passengers and goods, with fares that provided equal justice between everybody, and rates set equally for separate classes of merchandise where the merchandise had been properly classified.

All that has gone by the board. The 1958 Act gave C.I.E. power to make individual bargains and there is now no question of an obligation on them to give equal treatment to those who use their transport services. The Minister will be aware of the agitation and indignation that exists in many parts of the country where lines have been closed that were essential for the communities concerned while, at the same time, money is being squandered in a most extravagant manner on traffic through the air.

I think the only thing I need say in reply to Deputy McGilligan is that C.I.E. cannot get out of their responsibilities under this Bill, except to close the canal for navigation. The future of the canal will be safeguarded, if necessary, to cover water supply requirements and possible fishing developments. For example, if the canal were finally abandoned and filled in, and it had been providing a water supply, then another supply would have to be provided and C.I.E. accept responsibility for that. That is quite clear.

I do not think the House need have any great anxiety in regard to fishing development because I have the Inland Fisheries Trust's angling campaign very much at heart. One of the satisfactory features of the situation is that very considerable stretches of the Royal Canal will be kept open and the canal will be kept filled with water, thus enabling the Inland Fisheries Trust to pursue its policy of stocking canals with coarse fish, if that seems desirable to them. It does not interfere with the coarse fishing campaign and at the same time, the future of the canal will be safeguarded, in so far as water supply requirements and fishing developments are concerned.

Question put and agreed to.

Next Wednesday.

We never have any business for Thursday. Let us say tomorrow week.

I am not sure that is possible.

Wednesday fortnight.

Committee Stage ordered for Wednesday, 7th December, 1960.
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