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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 23 Nov 1960

Vol. 185 No. 1

Adjournment Debate. - Congo Situation: Appointment of Representative.

In July the Dáil adopted a motion to send troops to the Congo as part of the United Nations forces, and we supported that motion. However, in the course of the debate we suggested that it was of the greatest importance, due to the extremely complicated situation in the Congo, that a liaison officer, political officer, or some person other than military personnel should be sent out there in order to ensure that we would know whether our troops were being used to the best possible advantage and for the most desirable purposes.

The Taoiseach at that time refused to accept that suggestion put forward by Deputy Corish and supported by myself and Deputy McQuillan. We sent troops out, in the extremely confused situation, at the request of the Congolese Government which was led by Mr. Lumumba and we accepted that responsibility. We considered the matter at that time under the threat of a civil war, it could be said, and certainly under the threat of secession by Mr. Tshombe in the province of Katanga. It was an extremely important consideration because it meant that the greatest and the richest part of the Congo was controlled by Belgian financial interests under the premiership of Mr. Tshombe. The position of Katanga is that while it contains only about 12% of the total population of the Congo it produces 60% of the total wealth. Consequently it was most important that our troops should not be permitted to be used in any way to jeopardise this wealth for the whole of the Congolese people.

At that time Mr. Tshombe insisted that he wanted to secede from the Congo, to establish a partitioned State, to divide the Congo as our own country was divided 40 years ago, and to take away this industrial potential from the whole of the Congo. To any of us who have even longrange contact with this problem of Partition in our own country, the partitioning of any country is equally repugnant. We felt that it would be a disastrous thing for the Congo were Mr. Tshombe to proceed with his suggestion for the partitioning of the Congo. It was suggested that the troops being sent there would be engaged merely on police work. The Taoiseach did not define what the police work was. I think he said he was not quite sure, which was reasonable enough in the circumstances.

This was a very unusual and unique situation, but he appears to me to have grossly under-estimated the appalling difficulties which have been faced by our troops since they left here. There is the fact that this is a largely French-speaking area and that very few of our troops spoke French. There was also the many great conflicting interests, and the fact that many of the people are illiterate and uneducated, knowing nothing about the United Nations. The fact that our troops are white people and looked like the Belgians also created many problems.

There was also the inevitability which we mentioned in the debate that the colonial interests, the Belgians particularly, would come together in the Security Council of the United Nations with other great ex-colonial countries such as Britain and to a certain extent, as a dollar-imperialist country, the United States, and attempt to change the political situation in the Congo and restore if possible the position of the Belgian financial interests there. When we speak about the financial interests of the Congo we are mainly concerned with Katanga. That is the situation which we foreshadowed and it seems to me that every one of those rather depressing forecasts are in process of being fulfilled.

The Taoiseach has taken the line that we have certain obligations to the United Nations to send out troops to act as a police force. We believed that the function of this force was to restore the total property of the Congo to the Congolese people, to take it from the Belgians and give it back to its rightful owners. The Taoiseach's attitude is that, our function being purely police action directed and dictated by the United Nations, we must abrogate our rights, divest ourselves of our sovereignty over these troops, hand them over to the United Nations Commander in the Congo and leave them to their best devices and to any consequences that might befall them.

We greatly deprecate this attitude on the part of the Taoiseach. There are essentially serious and complicated political difficulties involved in the solution of this problem, and the soldiers out there, however talented and courageous they may be, are completely incapable of keeping in touch with the intricacies of Congolese politics. Therefore it is vital that the Taoiseach should send out a representative to help them in deciding for whom we are fighting and whose property we are defending, and in what way we are protecting the interests of the Congolese people.

The Taoiseach says he will not take any part in the day-to-day or week-to-week political decisions in the Congo on behalf of our troops. He has stated, however, that we have a right to protest against decisions we do not like and to withdraw our troops if they are put to any tasks of which we disapprove. I think he made that concession in the course of the debate. He was asked by somebody: "May we withdraw our troops if we wish?" and he said: "Of course we may, at any time." I hope I am not misquoting him but I assume that is what he said.

There are, in any event, precedents for protests being made. On the question of the threat to shoot Mr. Lumumba, the Premier, the new Arab Republic protested as did also the Ceylon Government and Mr. Nkrumah of Ghana. We have the right to protest and the Taoiseach has no right to divest himself of that authority when it comes to guarding our very difficult position in the Congo. The Taoiseach has the right to protest at decisions of which he does not approve and I suggest there has been a decision taken in the Congo against which we should have protested.

I asked the Taoiseach by Parliamentary Question whether he had heard of the threat to shoot the Premier of the Congo, Mr. Lumumba. I do not know anything about matters in the Congo beyond what I read in the newspapers. I am not expertly advised but I do know the Premier of the Congo invited the United Nations to go into the Congo. As a result of a directive given by Mr. Hammarskjoeld of the United Nations, this man who had invited the United Nations forces into the Congo was threatened with shooting if he did not leave the national radio station.

I do not know anything about the merits of Mr. Lumumba. All I know is that he was elected by the black people of the Congo to represent them. As far as I can see, he is another Nyeri, Nboyo, Nkrumah, Nehru or Dr. Banda. As far as we can gather, that is how he will turn out, if he survives. Consequently, it was very wrong to allow this man to be threatened with shooting. It would have been quite appalling if that order had been given to an Irish soldier and if Mr. Lumumba had lost his head— he did not do so—and had been shot by one of our soldiers. It seems to me to have been a most unwise decision to take on the part of whoever took it. On that occasion, we should have protested against that decision and made it quite clear that our soldiers would not be prepared, and could not be and should not be asked, to shoot the elected Premier—elected and ratified in his election at a subsequent meeting of their Parliament and ratified as Premier. That is one point.

Secondly, and I suppose I should have put this point as the more important one, when Mr. Tshombe said he was going to secede and when there was an elected Government and when Mr. Lumumba was Premier, it was up to the United Nations to send armed forces into the Katanga Province and tell Mr. Tshombe that he could not secede, that there was an elected Government and an elected Premier and that he had no right to secede from the Congo. He should have been told that we would not stand over this decision of an individual to partition the country. This was an occasion on which we of all peoples in the world should have urged that the United Nations should have sent troops to Katanga in order to see that this man was not allowed to carry out his threat to secede and put himself in the position in which he now is, where he has a force organised which can move in or attack or defy any central Government which may be elected in the Congo. That was another great failure on the part of the United Nations forces against which we should have protested. We should not have been party to this further political decision taken by the United Nations.

The United Nations has stood by and watched the Belgian Government supplying unlimited qantities of military stores to the Katanga forces, to the Tshombe Government. It was an outrageous thing to allow in the first place in a society in which there is incipient civil war. It was outrageous in that respect, but equally it seems to me particularly vindictive in light of the fact that we refused the elected Premier who was vested with the responsibility of keeping law and order —and the Taoiseach knows all about that——

Would the Deputy allow me? The only matter for discussion is in the Deputy's Question, that in view of the confusion and complication of the political situation in the Congo, the Taoiseach should consider appointing a personal representative to it. The Deputy is travelling away from that——

He has to.

——and dealing with decisions taken by the United Nations. I would ask him to return to the Question.

My point is that if we had a political representative in the Congo, we would be informed of these facts. I want to draw attention to the fact that the Taoiseach said he did not know that the Premier of the Congo had been threatened with shooting. I say that if we had a political representative there, he would have known. If he listened to the B.B.C. or Radio Éireann, or read the Irish Press, the Irish Independent or the Irish Times, he would also have known that Mr. Lumumba was threatened with shooting by a young English soldier and the fact that he did not seems greatly to increase the necessity for having some political adviser in the Congo who would tell him of these acts which are being carried out in our name in the Congo.

We now have the situation in the Congo in which the Premier is deposed—Mr. Lumumba is apparently no longer Premier—where we have Mr. Tshombe, who defied the United Nations in the first place, with the consent and approval of the military forces and power of Belgium, in an unassailable position of strength; and we have Mr. Kasavubu, who is titular head of the Congo, now sitting in the United Nations; and we have Mr. Mobuto who is military dictator and who in fact is in complete control of the Congo. Democracy has been suspended and we have been party to every one of these acts. The position, putting it in terms of 1922, is that we are backing Craigavon; we are defending Carson. We are ensuring that the partitioning of the Congo will go through. We are insisting on the federalisation of the Congo, all because of the Taoiseach's failure to establish any contact with our forces and to make any protest in this step by step dismemberment of the Congo as a result of the decisions of Kasavubu, Mobuto and Tshombe, and of course the most important of all, the Belgian-American interests in the United Nations—as forecast by us in the earlier debate.

Last night, there was a discussion at which the Afro-Asian Conciliation Commission—a perfectly reasonable and perfectly logical body—who would know the position in these countries better than we could, offered to send a 15-member commission to try to make peace between the conflicting——

The Deputy is again proceeding to discuss decisions of the United Nations. They do not arise on this Question.

The final point which I shall make is that, on the one hand, last night we voted with the Soviet Union—and I back that decision; I do not accept the smear headlines of the Irish Independent today—

I must ask the Deputy to pass from that. That is a decision of the United Nations. It does not arise on this.

The position is that our troops are now in the Congo. They are carrying out a policy in the Congo, the United Nations Congo policy, against which we voted last night. Our delegation in the United Nations, dictated to by the Government, by the Taoiseach, is carrying out one policy and our soldiers in the Congo are risking their lives to carry out a policy with which the Government is no longer in agreement. That is my point. This is all due to the fact that the Taoiseach is no longer in contact. He takes the view that we have no right to tell our troops in the Congo that we no longer agree with the activities of the United Nations in the Congo because he says we are not allowed to talk to our troops once we send them to the Congo. Of all the absurd suggestions that could be made by a Premier of any sovereign State surely that is the most outrageous. The Taoiseach told me today, in reply to a question——

His time is up, Sir.

——that we are not sufficiently informed about the situation in the Congo to make a proper appreciation of it. How could a responsible Premier make such statements about his own troops in a foreign country such as the Congo in its present appalling state of incipient civil war?

In view of the tragic events which have recently taken place in the Congo I can only express my horror and disgust that the functions and aims of the Irish contingent of the United Nations forces in the Congo should be so flagrantly misrepresented as has been done by Deputy Dr. Browne.

Rubbish.

These Irish troops did not go to the Congo for any purpose except to preserve peace and to serve the cause of international cooperation in the preservation of peace.

And to restore Mr. Tshombe.

The men who died there and the Irish soldiers who died there, knew quite well the cause they were serving.

Do not rattle their bones.

The Taoiseach is entitled to be heard. I assume that is the reason the motion is raised on the Adjournment, that the Taoiseach would be heard.

In my view it is despicable that the aim and purpose of the United Nations troops there should be so misrepresented as they have been.

Partition the Congo.

The suggestion in this motion that we should have a personal representative in the Congo, if we adopted it, would have the effect even if it is not the Deputy's aim, of getting us involved in the internal political affairs of the Congo.

What are we doing in the Congo?

In view of the news in the last two days that the representative of Ghana, having been suspected of having interfered in the internal affairs of the Congo, was put out of the country and in the process of being put out brought about a conflict between the Congolese and the United Nations forces——

By Tshombe.

——is surely an effective argument against making the same mistake ourselves.

He was put out by the Belgians.

The Deputy got twenty minutes. Surely the Taoiseach is entitled to ten minutes.

We get our information concerning events and developments in the Congo through the United Nations Advisory Committee and any views we have—and we have occasionally views to express—regarding the course of events there and the manner in which the United Nations should try to direct the course of events, are expressed through that Committee.

It is preposterous to think that we could in any way effectively influence events in the Congo by a personal representative in one part of it and it is, I think, completely contrary to the whole conception of an international force to preserve peace there that we should attempt it. The Secretary General of the United Nations has already had occasion to draw the attention of all the Governments who have units in the United Nations force there that complications and difficulties have been created by reason of the fact that in some instances units of the United Nations force in the Congo have consulted with representatives on the spot before executing instructions and orders given by the United Nations Command.

It is, I believe, completely untrue to say that the United Nations has departed one iota from the original decision which led to the sending of that force into the Congo. There is no ground for the suggestion, no tittle of evidence to support the contention, that the United Nations is supporting or facilitating the secession of the Katanga province or any other part of the Congo State. The decision of the Security Council which led to the formation of the force was aimed at assisting the central Government of the Congo in the restoration and maintenance of law and order throughout the territory of the Republic of the Congo. As Deputies who read the newspapers are well aware, the United Nations has not accepted Mr. Tshombe's claim to secede and has, indeed, sent troops into the Katanga province.

They have allowed the Belgians to build up a big force.

There are 500 Belgian troops in the Katanga Army.

What is worrying Deputy Dr. Browne, as far as I can make out, is that by skilful diplomacy the United Nations arranged for the sending of its force into the province of Katanga without violence.

Get on with it.

Deputy Dr. Browne, if he has any sense of decency, would at least allow me the ten minutes allotted to me to answer without interruption the twenty minutes of misrepresentation that we listened to from him. If the Deputy cannot bear to hear his nonsense exposed, his fallacies revealed, why does he stay here at all?

Get on with it.

I will get on with it when I like, without any insolence or impertinence from the Deputy. I am entitled to speak here as much as anybody else.

That is what I say. Get on with it.

If the Deputy is not prepared to allow the Taoiseach to proceed without interruption I shall have to ask the Deputy to leave the House.

The sole purpose of the United Nations force in the Congo is to preserve peace there until the people of the Congo, who were pushed without adequate preparation into independence, who found themselves carrying the responsibilities of independence without being organised for it, are able themselves to take over the task of running their country and preserving order within it. That is the motive, the proclaimed motive, of every one of the 18 Governments that sent contingents to that force. It is certainly ours.

This operation was embarked upon, as everybody knows, with no intention whatever of interfering in the internal affairs of the Congo. It is inevitable, I suppose, in a situation where internal government has collapsed, that decisions will be forced upon the United Nations representatives on the spot which will be questioned or challenged, and the wisdom of which may be in fact doubtful, but the aim of the whole operation is to create in the Congo a stable political system controlled by the Congolese people which will be able to relieve the United Nations of the responsibility it has undertaken there.

The representative of the United Nations in the Congo has said that the only two institutions there whose foundations still stand are the President of the Republic and the Parliament, and the Parliament is in fact unable to meet at present.

Because you will not allow it to meet.

Deputy Dr. Browne obviously misunderstands or desires to misrepresent what happened at the United Nations in the past two days. It is true that we voted to postpone a decision on the seating of any Congolese representative in the United Nations until a conciliation commission which the United Nations proposed to send to the Congo had reported and until action on its report had shown the possibility of the creation of a representative and accepted Congolese authority. When that motion to postpone action was defeated, as it was, in the United Nations Assembly, we abstained from voting upon the subsequent motion to seat President Kasavubu. It was not that we do not recognise President Kasavubu as the head of State. It meant that we were adhering to our decision that it was unwise to take that decision until this commission had reported, if in fact the commission now goes to the Congo at all.

There was nothing illogical in our step. Indeed it is remarkable that Sweden and Canada, the only two non-African or Asian countries that have contingents in the Congo, took the same line as we did and that of all the 18 countries with contingents in the Congo only one voted positively for that motion. There can be, therefore, no suggestion that we are acting in this matter in any way different from the line adopted by practically all the other countries who are committed in this operation to the same extent as we are.

I have only this further to say if I will be allowed time to say it: Our motive in acceding to the United Nations request is above all possible suspicion as to ulterior aims. It was inspired by the fundamental precepts of our Christian Faith as well as by our obligations to the United Nations. We felt obliged to subscribe to the ideal of human relations which is expressed in the parable of the Good Samaritan. We decided that we could not, having regard to our Faith and our policy, pass by looking the other way when we were called upon to help. That was the ideal that inspired us in accepting the request from the United Nations and I hope that the result of our action and the action of all the other Governments that responded in a similar way to that request will be to make possible the establishment of a stable State in the Congo——

Including Katanga.

——and avoid the immense dangers to mankind which would inevitably be involved if the United Nations effort there should fail.

Including Katanga.

The Dáil adjourned at 11 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 24th November, 1960.

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