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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 20 Jul 1961

Vol. 191 No. 9

Committee on Finance. - Medical Practitioners Bill, 1961— Second Stage.

I move that the Bill be now read a Second Time. This short Bill will make only a minor change in the law on medical registration, a change recommended to me by the Medical Registration Council.

At present, a medical practitioner is not entitled in this country to full registration until, after completing his academic studies, he has had a year's practical experience in an approved hospital. This year is commonly known as the "intern year". The purpose of this intern year, introduced here by the Medical Practitioners Act of 1951, is to ensure that, in addition to academic knowledge, each medical practitioner will have a certain minimum amount of experience before he goes into general practice, or obtains a post as a fully-fledged practitioner in a hospital.

In the case of a medical practitioner qualifying for the first time in this country, the condition presents no problem. It is accepted as part of the necessary initial training. In the case of a medical practitioner qualified in Britain who, for one reason or another, comes to live in Ireland and transfers from the British to the Irish Register, there is likewise no difficulty. Similarly, a medical practitioner seeking registration here who has already obtained a qualifying diploma in one or other of the territories with which we have reciprocal arrangements for medical registration is exempted by our law from the condition to spend an intern year in an approved hospital if he can show, to the satisfaction of the Medical Registration Council, that after qualifying in his home country he has had comparable experience to that which he would get if he did his intern year here under the approved conditions.

There remains, however, a further small class of medical practitioners who come here from countries with which reciprocal arrangements for medical registration do not exist. Now, such a medical practitioner may be very well qualified, and may have had very extensive practical professional experience in his native land before coming here; yet before he can become registered and obtain the right to practice here, he must, having first obtained an Irish qualifying diploma, then undergo the intern year in the same way as a freshly-qualified young Irish medical graduate. We have had, for instance, the case of a foreign doctor, excellently qualified and with close on twenty years' experience of medical practice, who, on coming here, had to undergo the intern year in the same way as an Irishman who had just passed his final medical examination. I think it will be agreed that this situation is a defect in our system of medical registration.

It is to correct this anomaly that the present Bill has been introduced. It will enable the Medical Registration Council to absolve from the requirement to do an intern year any foreign medical practitioner applying for inclusion in the Irish Register who, having taken an Irish qualifying diploma satisfies the council that his original qualification was sufficient for the efficient practice of medicine and that he has had experience in his own or another country comparable to what he would have got here in the course of the normal intern year. The Bill does nothing to relieve such a practitioner of the need to get an Irish qualifying diploma before he is registered but I understand that concessions in relation to the period of study required for this may be given in such cases by some of the medical school in agreement with the Medical Regitration Council.

I recommend the change to the House.

I understand that this proposal has the approval of the medical profession in general. Accordingly, we have no objection. There appears to be on the face of the Bill, as circulated, a rather peculiar flaw. Section 1 of this Bill says:

Section 2 of the Medical Practitioners Act, 1951, is hereby amended by the insertion in paragraph (b) of subsection (2) after "that section" of "or the Council is satisfied that——

There is not any subsection (2) in Section 2 of the Medical Practitioners Act, 1961. Section 2 of the Medical Practitioners Act, 1951, consists of one section which is subdivided into three paragraphs. That would appear to call for some redrafting on the part of the Parliamentary draftsman. I am reading from No. 29——

The Deputy appears to be right.

The Deputy is always right.

Not always.

Let us not get cross about this. I want to say at once that when I see a trifling error of this kind in drafting it begins to restore my faith somewhat in the Department of Health. I rejoice to find some element of humanity in any public Department which can allow a trifling error of this kind to creep in. Let us all rejoice that there is humanity in the highest echelon of the bureaucracy of Ireland. I think it serves to distinguish the Irish bureaucracy from all the other bureaucracies all over the world. It is a trifling matter.

Let us have a look at this again. The Deputy has caught out——

The Minister is responsible.

The Deputy can see what happened.

There is no need to get fussed about it. It is a very trifling matter.

Perhaps the Deputy might agree to take a verbal amendment.

The House.

Perhaps the House would agree to take a verbal amendment and omit "of subsection (2)". Would that not make it right? It would then read "is hereby amended by the insertion in paragraph (b) after ‘that section' of ‘or the Council is satisfied that'".

Might I point out that that can be done only on Committee Stage.

We will do that on Wednesday without any difficulty. I await with confidence the Minister's cordial expression of gratitude.

Question put and agreed to.

Tuesday next.

This will remind the Minister that the process of steamrolling legislation through the House is not to be recommended.

It means that the proofs will have to be read more carefully.

Mr. Ryan

Did the Minister say he was sorry? I do not think so.

I expressed my sorrow to the Dáil that I should have let Deputy Dillon catch me out.

Mr. Ryan

That is an act of imperfect contrition.

Committee Stage ordered for Tuesday, 25th July, 1961.
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