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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 4 Jul 1967

Vol. 229 No. 9

Committee on Finance. - Vote 50—Increases in Pensions.

I move:

That a sum not exceeding £460,000 be granted to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending on the 31st day of March, 1968, for payment of Increases in certain Pensions, Allowances and Retired Pay in respect of public service.

Perhaps I should explain that the approval of the Dáil is sought, by way of this Estimate, for increases in public service pensions, including military service pensions and special allowances, and to authorise payment of the increases with effect from 1st August, 1967. These, in effect, are the 12 per cent increases in public service pensions announced in the Budget.

As the Minister said on the Budget, this brought the 12 per cent increase up to mid-May, 1966. Since then, there has been a further seven point increase which I think would be the equivalent of four per cent. While this is welcome to pensioners in so far as it goes, it is a matter of difficulty for people living on pensions and the type of rentier small fixed income because we seem to be in the position in which the value of our money is going down year by year. The only question at issue in any year is whether it goes down faster than it did in the preceding year. I think the time has come, having regard to that and having regard to the position as we have seen it over past years, to consider whether, in relation to the whole standardisation of pay for Government service and pensions for Government service, the linking of these to the consumer price index would not be more appropriate than to deal with it on an ad hoc basis from time to time each year when, in fact, it is only the hardship that the pensioners have suffered that melts the heart of whoever may be Minister for Finance at the time.

I notice, particularly, in this Estimate that a sum of £10 is included for local authority pensions. I presume this is merely a token Estimate. I should like the Minister to confirm that the pensions for those engaged in local authority work will be dealt with in exactly the same way as for those in the Civil Service, for teachers, gardaí and for the other classes that have been included in this Estimate. I think this is now done by a Statutory Order rather than by the old Act and that all that is necessary, therefore, is the inclusion of an Estimate for the amount of the payment. That is a useful tidying piece of legislation that was carried through some years back. It makes the position very easy.

Already, as I say, this is four per cent behind the times, and by the time we come to next year's Budget, I fear it will be substantially down further again.

I just want to confirm that this provision of £10 under the heading "Local Authorities" is in fact only a token provision. The local authority pensioners will of course be dealt with in the same way as other public service pensioners and the cost will ultimately fall on the Exchequer. It is not anticipated that the claims will be put before the local authorities before the end of this financial year. Perhaps I might mention in connection with pensions that a recent development which is of some importance to public service pensioners is that I have agreed to accept a recommendation from the General Council under the scheme of conciliation and arbitration that unestablished service in general be reckoned in full from the 1st January next. Therefore that type of pensioner, in addition to getting his 12 per cent on 1st August, will have his pension revised from 1st January to give him credit for the full portion of his unestablished service.

No matter when he retired?

Question put and agreed to.
Estimate reported and agreed to.
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