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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 15 Dec 1970

Vol. 250 No. 7

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - EEC Fisheries Policy.

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andMr. Begley asked the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries if he will give the basis of the financial compensation to fish producers' associations contained in the resolution of the EEC Council of Ministers of 30th June last; and if he will comment on the implications for the Irish fishing industry of this part of the resolution.

The common fisheries policy adopted by the European Economic Community in conformity with the Council Resolution of 30th June, 1970 provides that the financial compensation allowed to producers' organisations shall be equal to 60 per cent of the guide price when the withdrawal price is higher than 65 per cent of the guide price and equal to 55 per cent of the guide price when the withdrawal price does not exceed 65 per cent of the guide price. The regulation provides that the level of the guide price shall be fixed by the council and that the method of application of the withdrawal price shall be adopted by the management committee for fishery products. No decisions on these matters have been taken so far by the committee and I am, accordingly, not in a position to comment on their implications at this stage.

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andMr. Begley asked the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries if he will state with respect to each variety of fish covered by the EEC fisheries policy what the average price secured for each variety was in the EEC in the last three seasons and what the average price secured for each of these types of fish of the same quality was in the Irish market in the same period.

As the reply is in the form of a tabular statement, I propose, with your permission, a Cheann Comhairle, to circulate it in the Official Report. The information available in respect of EEC countries, which has been obtained from the Statistics Office of the EEC, is limited to the main varieties of wet fish and has no relation to fish quality.

Following is the statement:—

BELGIUM

Variety

1967

1968

1969

Belgian francs per kilo.

Herring, fresh

7.14

9.95

6.37

Cod

9.51

9.02

12.63

Turbot

54.08

60.70

66.92

Sole

54.74

56.80

64.94

Haddock

9.01

8.27

6.75

Plaice

7.47

7.52

8.65

Mackerel

5.31

8.35

5.76

Ray/Skate

15.36

13.96

15.82

FRANCE

Variety

1967

1968

1969

French francs per kilo.

Herring, fresh

0.99

1.06

1.01

Cod, fresh

1.41

1.48

1.82

Cod, salted

1.85

1.47

1.64

Turbot

7.04

6.39

6.67

Sole

7.76

8.05

8.52

Haddock

0.96

1.06

1.18

Plaice

1.19

1.51

1.37

Mackerel

0.86

0.84

1.48

Ray/Skate

1.46

1.59

1.88

GERMANY

Variety

1967

1968

1969

DM per kilo.

Herring, fresh

0.35

0.37

0.24

Herring, salted

0.75

0.68

0.89

Cod, fresh

0.66

0.57

0.68

Cod, salted

1.34

1.07

1.26

Turbot

3.96

4.61

4.71

Sole

3.42

3.57

4.17

Haddock

0.89

0.64

0.76

Plaice

0.93

0.78

0.83

Mackerel

0.33

0.44

0.34

Ray/Skate

0.29

0.33

0.47

ITALY

Variety

1967

1968

1969

lira per kilo.

Turbot

847

784

840

Sole

1446

1504

1888

Mackerel

260

238

283

Ray/Skate

339

360

397

NETHERLANDS

Variety

1967

1968

1969

guilders per kilo.

Herring, fresh

0.53

0.63

0.65

Herring, salted

0.95

1.13

1.17

Cod, fresh

0.64

0.67

0.94

Turbot

2.98

3.45

3.55

Sole

3.78

4.01

4.70

Haddock

0.51

0.58

0.56

Plaice

0.58

0.54

0.60

Mackerel

0.36

0.48

0.47

Ray/Skate

0.76

0.91

0.86

IRELAND

Variety

1967

1968

1969

Shillings per cwt.

Herring, fresh

21.4

22.0

23.0

Cod, fresh

72.4

67.2

87.25

Turbot

195.9

200.1

199.7

Sole

430.25

437.6

457.8

Haddock

74.75

72.6

70.9

Plaice

155.1

144.3

158.8

Mackerel

23.2

22.75

28.5

Ray/Skate

83.2

87.25

91.0

Can the Parliamentary Secretary give any information on the relative prices of the key types of fish here and in the EEC countries? As the guide price is based on these prices, why can he not tell us the implications for this country in terms of the price changes that will occur with EEC membership?

The guide prices will be worked out on an entirely different basis from the present basis. I think the Deputy wants to know if the guide price at present in the EEC is higher than that for Irish fish——

It is not possible to say that at present.

The guide price is. fixed as an average for the annual price for each type of fish over the last three years. I take it that, in the tabular statement, the Parliamentary Secretary has given me just this information.

The guide price will beset on an altogether different basis. It will not be taken as the average, as at present.

Is there some change in the decisions taken on the fisheries policy?

The general decisions taken in respect of fisheries policy include the decision that the guide price shall be taken on the average of the prices over the past three years.

The guide price will be on a different basis from that of the average——

What is the basis?

That is not decided. It will be on a different basis.

Could the Parliamentary Secretary tell us the terms of the decision that was taken not to adopt the average so that we shall know exactly what they have decided?

Until the guide prices are decided it will be impossible to compare them with the present price of fish in Ireland. This is the position and, as I said, guide prices will not be worked out on the present basis of average.

Does the Parliamentary Secretary appreciate that the proposals made to the Council of Ministers included provision for fixing the guide prices on the basis of the average for the last three years? I understand from him that the Council of Ministers took a different decision, not to do that and to do something else. Could he give us the terms of their decision to reject the Commission's proposal? What did they decide?

As well as the average there is such a thing as quality and all this must be worked out.

Could the Parliamentary Secretary——

We cannot debate these questions now.

Could the Parliamentary Secretary answer the question about what decision the Council took?

No, this has not been decided.

(Interruptions.)

We cannot debate the fishing policy.

I am trying to get the Parliamentary Secretary to answer a question.

The Deputy is making a good job of it.

The Parliamentary Secretary has said that the Council of Ministers rejected a proposal of the Commission. Could he give us the terms of that rejection and say what they did?

I am not in a position to give that information but if the Deputy wishes to put down a separate question I shall certainly try to answer it.

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