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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 14 Dec 1976

Vol. 295 No. 4

Local Government Provisional Order Confirmation Bill, 1976 [Seanad] [Private Business]:Second Stage (resumed).

Question again proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

The purpose of the Bill is to give effect to the County of Louth and Borough of Drogheda (Boundaries) Provisional Order, 1976, which was made by me on 19th October last. The order provides for the extension of the boundary of the Borough of Drogheda to take in part of County Louth and part of County Meath. The total area being added to Drogheda is about 1,715 acres, including some 100 acres of tidal or marsh land. The extension of the boundary of Drogheda involves a consequential alteration of the boundary of County Louth in order to include the area transferred from County Meath to Drogheda Borough. Both extensions are provided for in this Provisional Order.

Articles 25 and 27 of the schedule to the Local Government (Application of Enactments) Order, 1898, specify the procedure for the alteration of the boundary of a county or borough. Following petitions to the Minister for Local Government from Drogheda Corporation and Louth County Council, there was a public inquiry at which all interested parties were afforded an opportunity to express their views. I considered the report of the public inquiry and made a decision on the matter which is now formalised in the Provisional Order. The extension cannot, however, become effective until the order is confirmed by an Act of the Oireachtas, hence the necessity for the present Bill. In accordance with the relevant Standing Orders, the Bill was introduced in the Seanad and completed its passage through that House last week. It is necessary that the Bill be enacted before the Christmas recess if the extension is to come into force as from the 1st January, 1977; this, being the beginning of the financial year, is the date most suitable for the local authorities and the one which will cause least inconvenience for all concerned.

The Corporation in support of their petition for a boundary extension made the case that the existing area of the borough—1,486 acres—was totally inadequate to meet development needs. I was satisfied on the basis of the evidence given at the inquiry and the report of the inspector who conducted it that an extension was justified but I was not satisfied that a boundary extension on the scale sought was justified—this would have involved an increase of 4,189 acres which is almost three times as much as the existing area of the borough. While the areas of land being added to the borough under the Provisional Order amount to less than half the acreage sought by the corporation, the result will mean more than doubling the existing area of Drogheda to a total of about 3,201 acres.

The areas being added to the borough extend north of the River Boyne into County Louth and southwards into County Meath and they are contiguous to the existing borough boundary. It is desirable for the proper planning and orderly development of these areas that they be brought under the control of the Drogheda Corporation, since already parts of these areas are becoming both residential and industrial suburbs of Drogheda. The extension of the boundary will help the corporation to play an even more positive role as a development authority under the provisions of the Local Government (Planning and Development) Acts. I would, indeed, expect that the corporation, as a matter of urgency, would review their development plan to meet the needs of their expanded area. By virtue of a provision of the Local Government (Planning and Development) Act, 1976, they can, in fact, bring forward an entirely new plan for this purpose.

Drogheda is a compact and densely developed town and is already compelled to overspill the existing borough boundary to find accommodation for essential development. For quite some time, Drogheda Corporation itself has had to seek land outside of the borough to meet its statutory obligations. The extension of the boundary will meet future population growth and development needs as well as bringing within the borough existing overspill development. This includes some 200 houses built by Drogheda Corporation in the area being transferred from Meath. The population of the borough increased from 17,909 in 1966 to 19,762 at the 1971 census and has continued to increase since then. The population of the area now being added to Drogheda is estimated to be of the order of 2,000, occupying some 500 houses.

Provisions consequential on the extension are included in the provisional order. These follow the usual lines and provide for such matters as the preparation of official maps of the altered boundaries of the three areas involved, the continuation in effect of resolutions and orders, as appropriate, arrangements in regard to registers of electors, bye-laws, polling districts, and any necessary financial adjustments as between the three authorities in relation to property, debts and liabilities.

The provisions of article 16 and the Second Schedule are an important feature of the order. They ensure that ratepayers in the areas being added to the borough will be cushioned against increases in their rates bills by providing for phasing-in arrangements under which the rise to Drogheda rate levels will take place over a 15-year period. Under these provisions ratepayers in the areas being transferred, who were liable for rates in the current year, will pay in 1977 only that proportion of the Drogheda rate which the rates in their present rating area bore to the Drogheda rate in 1976, this proportion is 61 per cent in the case of the Meath ratepayers and 68 per cent in the case of the Louth ratepayers. These ratepayers will not be liable for full Drogheda rates until 1993. These generous phasing-in arrangements, together with the continuation of the agricultural grant reliefs on land being transferred to urban areas as provided for in the Rates on Agricultural Land (Relief) Act, 1976, provide a very considerable easement for ratepayers who otherwise might have found themselves paying much higher rates as a consequence of the boundary extension.

In commending the Bill to the House, I would ask for the co-operation of Deputies so as to ensure that it will have a speedy passage in order that the boundary extension can become effective on 1st January next as provided for in the provisional order.

As the Minister has pointed out, this Bill is for the purpose of confirming a local government provisional order relating to changes in the boundaries of County Louth and County Meath and the borough of Drogheda.

I find it difficult to understand why the Bill is introduced at this late stage of the session. We are now in the final week of the session and I had hoped the Bill would have come before the House earlier. If I am to judge by section 2 of the Schedule and also by what the Minister said at the end of his speech, it is hoped that the order will come into operation on 1st January, 1977. As the original provisional order which, to all intents and purposes, was exactly similar to the Bill was sent to the local authorities concerned on 19th October I had hoped that the Bill would be discussed in the House before now. A considerable amount of administrative changes must be made. Had it been possible to bring the Bill before the House last May or June I would have thought it would have facilitated the local authorities concerned, as well as giving the House an opportunity to debate it thoroughly.

Drogheda is a town of immense historic importance with charters dating back to 1229 so far as the borough is concerned on the County Louth side of the Boyne and to 1247 so far as the borough is concerned on the County Meath side of the Boyne. The present borough which straddles the Boyne is held under charters of James I and William III.

The importance of the town is emphasised by the fact that a parliament sat there under the Lord Lieutenant, Sir Edward Poynings, and it was that parliament that enacted Poynings Law which had such an immense influence on the course of Irish history in later years. Drogheda suffered the massacre which occurred during the Cromwellian period. St. Oliver Plunkett walked the streets of the town during his ministry as Archbishop of Armagh and he regarded Drogheda as the most important town in his archdiocese.

The history of Drogheda is a source of immense pride to its citizens but lest it be thought that the town is simply a relic of the past I would point out that it is a developing area with a fine harbour and with the greatest potential for industrial development outside the Dublin metropolitan area. Drogheda has shown its capacity for industrial development down through the years and apart from the industries located there in the past 20 years many other industries have roots there going back over a long number of years. The industrial policy of the late Seán Lemass gave a fillip to the industrial development of Drogheda.

In Drogheda there is a wide variety of heavy and light industries. The range covers cement, asbestos pipes, textiles, clothing, boots and shoes, fertilisers, foodstuffs, agricultural machinery, hypodermic syringes, plastics, soft drinks and so on. Recently with the closure of some industries and with reduced employment in others a serious unemployment problem has developed and this problem relates, in particular, to young people and school leavers. It is of vital importance to Drogheda that every consideration be given to any proposal that can help to alleviate the unemployment problem.

For some time Drogheda has recognised that it was reaching the limit of industrial, commercial and housing expansion within its present boundaries and indeed it has now passed that limit. In the past few years some of the new industries have been sited outside the borough boundary, as are some of the local authority and private housing estates. The corporation decided that if they were to continue developing both industrially and in relation to housing and services in an orderly manner and in a way that would ensure the provision of amenities for its citizens it was essential that the present boundary be altered. Some years ago they put in motion the machinery to achieve this objective by petitioning the Minister for Local Government to sanction an alteration to the boundary and they specified the area proposed to be incorporated within the new boundary. This area differs considerably from that proposed by the Minister in the Bill and I will deal with that aspect later.

The existing area within the borough boundary is approximately 1,486 acres. As I pointed out earlier, this is totally inadequate to meet the growing needs of Drogheda for private and local authority sites, for the volume of industrialisation of which Drogheda is capable and for the anticipated increase in population to about 45,000 people which, it is estimated, will be approximately the figure in 1986, an increase which will obviously put a very severe strain indeed on housing sites.

In reaching a decision as to the area necessary the corporation took a very proper attitude in that they concerned themselves not simply with the minimum needs of the town but also with the projected needs in the foreseeable future. They took the view that a rapidly expanding town like Drogheda should not be precluded from exercising control over development outside its present boundary, development which had largely arisen because of its own efforts, and the members of the corporation therefore proposed to add 4,189 acres to the town area made up of 3,041 acres from County Meath and 1,840 acres from County Louth, the bed of the River Boyne to be included in both cases. This meant acquiring one-half of 1 per cent of the total area of both Louth and Meath. Strangely enough, the total area proposed of approximately 5,675 acres is roughly the same area as was under the jurisdiction of the corporation when it was united by charter as a single corporation in 1412, the area then being 5,780 acres. The area proposed by the corporation is roughly the same area as the present area under the jurisdiction of Dundalk Urban District Council.

Whatever about the past, it was the considered opinion of the corporation and their experts at the time the Minister for Local Government was petitioned to permit the extension of the borough boundary that the area of 4,189 acres proposed to be added to the borough was the minimum area required to accommodate the increased population and to provide the employment outlets and the amenities necessary. The extension of the boundary as proposed was, therefore, mainly taking within the borough what could be regarded as the natural outgrowth of the town and the necessary land to allow for projected expansion. As I pointed out earlier, some of the area proposed to be taken within the boundary was already being serviced by the corporation, which received an income from the servicing related to only portion of it, namely, the water rate.

Let me repeat there is virtually no building land left within the present borough boundary. Apart from the basic requirements of land to provide for both private and local authority housing, it is vitally important to have land available for tourist development, for industrial and commercial activities, for transport, for cultural, social and sporting amenities, for churches, schools, recreation centres, clubs and so on to cater for an expanding population. The greatest emphasis must be placed on industrial development because Drogheda has been particularly hard hit in recent times and the number of jobs lost has been much greater than the number of new jobs which have been actually filled.

Various economic and other studies have been carried out in Drogheda which show the town as having a tremendous potential for further expansion. The people are anxious to ensure that development takes place in an orderly fashion and they, therefore, need control over land and buildings on the periphery of the town. In deciding the amount of land required the corporation took particular note of the projected population growth as outlined in the various reports and the needs which such a growth would create. They believed that the area in the original request was necessary and justificable if they were to proceed with long-term plans. It is, therefore, with quite considerable disappointment that I note, as a representative of Drogheda for the last 20 years and one with an intimate knowledge of its problems, that the Minister does not propose to include within its boundaries the area the corporation is on record as stating is the minimum required in the light of the future prospects of the town.

The Minister is quite content to permit the corporation to extend its boundaries almost to the limit of the corporation's application on the Louth side of the Boyne but he has cut down considerably on the amount of land the corporation desire to incorporate within its boundaries on the Meath side of the Boyne. The facts are that the part of Meath coming within the borough as a result of the Minister's order is little more than the amount already purchased and owned and serviced by the corporation, an area on which houses, both local authority and private, and industries were built, together with land owned by the corporation on which it is proposed to build a new technical school, the Rathmullen primary school and other amenities. The remaining area consists of a relatively small piece of land on the east side of the town, if one excludes the slobland and the river bed, and a further area of land on the west side adjacent to the industrial estate.

This is far from sufficient, in my view, if the town is to grow as expected and if proper and forwardlooking planning is to take place. This is a very important matter on which the future of the town depends to quite an extent and, in view of that, the approach of the Minister is a rather parochial one. I could understand, even if I did not accept, the Minister's stand when he was a Deputy representing County Meath and before he was appointed as Minister for Local Government and when his stance could be described by the term "not an inch". I cannot, however, understand his attitude now that he is Minister for Local Government and I believe he should alter his outlook. I can see no reason why he should refuse to accept the original proposal submitted by the corporation, a proposal which came to fruition after much thought and study of all the problems involved and something which the corporation believe necessary in the interests of the future economic expansion and the provision of houses and jobs in Drogheda. Such industrial development for example would be to the advantage of the people of Meath as well as the people of Drogheda and Louth.

When the corporation found the Minister was adamant in his refusal to alter his decision they suggested he should permit an exchange of land on the east side of the town in County Meath for land on the west side of the town, also in County Meath, and near the industrial estate, because the latter was suitable for development since it was already serviced by the corporation. This request was also turned down. As I said, the amount of land the corporation had originally proposed to include within its boundaries is about one-half of 1 per cent of County Meath and one-half of 1 per cent of County Louth and in that sense the corporation could not be said to be more concerned about one county rather than the other.

It is quite possible that had it been feasible the corporation would have taken a larger portion of County Louth within its boundaries, but anybody who knows Drogheda—and I have no doubt the Minister knows it well—is aware that further extension in the County Louth direction is hindered by physical obstacles, for example, the fact that there is quarrying on a large scale for raw materials for the cement factory, and also the fact that there are drainage difficulties. Undoubtedly quarrying for raw materials for the cement factory will continue to extend over a large area, and extensive quarries are hardly a feasible proposition for the middle of a built-up area.

On the other hand, the topography of the town, coupled with the engineering advice to the corporation, determined the direction of the proposed extension, and therefore it was decided to face in general to the south of the Boyne where the lands are easily served and where there is a good network of existing roads; and equally important is the fact that the main source of water supply is situated south of the town and mains are already laid in the recommended added area.

The interests of the people of Drogheda, in both Louth and east Meath, require that very serious consideration be given to the original and well-considered proposals of the Drogheda Corporation. The case originally put forward by the corporation, which petitioned the Minister for Local Government, is a sound one and one which would be acceptable to an impartial observer. I believe that if the Minister were to accept the original proposals of the corporation he would be making a worthwhile contribution to the growth of this ancient and vigorous borough of Drogheda and posterity would applaud him for it, even though it might create minor problems for him today.

If the Minister persists in his attitude in pushing the Bill through in its present form, then the day is not very far distant when somebody else will have to introduce a similar Bill to extend the boundary with the long and arduous planning, research and study which that entails; unless of course he adopts the proposals we had in our White Paper on Local Government Reorganisation which would allow the Minister for Local Government, on his own initiative, to make an order altering the boundary. We had also proposed in that White Paper to remove disincentives to boundary extensions, in particular the provisions under which the urban authority may be liable to pay compensation to a county council for the loss of rate income from the added area.

The Deputy wants to do away with Drogheda?

No, to extend it very considerably. Let me further remind the Minister that he recently brought a Bill before the House which he has mentioned in his opening statement, with which I agreed on behalf of my party and which ensures that the remission of rates on agricultural land at present applying to land outside the boundary will continue after the agricultural land comes within the jurisdiction of the corporation. I made the point in speaking on that Bill that, when the Minister decided to make that change he should have included within its scope all agricultural land within the present boundary of the town. I still feel this should be so, but I do not propose on this occasion to go into the arguments put forward by me at that time.

However, the changes made in the Bill ease the problems of those whose land will be included in the new area to be incorporated within the borough boundary, and while it can be said it will not eliminate all their problems, at least these problems will be compensated for by the new amenities which will be available to those who will in future be residing within the new borough boundary.

Professor Myles Wright, in his report on the Dublin Planning Region, stated that Drogheda was by far the most important industrial centre in the extra-metropolitan area in terms of numbers, variety of plant and the employment offered. He pointed out that Drogheda was one of the two districts which appeared to have the greatest potential for development. I have no doubt, from my long experience of and close association with Drogheda, that what Professor Wright had to say about the town is true. It has had a continuing growth and a continuing population increase even when times were difficult.

It is unfortunate that now that we are deciding on one facet, and a very important facet, of Drogheda's future, the Minister is insisting on granting an area of land for incorporation in the borough which will not be capable of proper long-term development and planning. The corporation are being inhibited in their efforts to provide as they would wish for Drogheda's future, and the situation is being created in which the town will not be able to cater for its citizens as it might do, to the detriment not only of its citizens but of many people who are living outside its borders and who are dependent on it for their livelihood.

The proposed new area which the Drogheda Corporation wanted incorporated within the borough boundary is one which they decided on after very considerable discussion and after accepting the advice of their experts. It is unfortunate that the Minister appears to be determined to make available to the corporation only a small portion of the area determined by the corporation for inclusion, and an area which they believed was essential for the development of the town. In the present day and age, long-term planning is of vital importance, and I would therefore again, even at this late stage, ask the Minister to reconsider the matter and to grant the facilities which were requested by the corporation.

I thank Deputy Faulkner for the way in which he has dealt with the Bill. I did not agree with a great deal of what he said but, in the main, he knows Drogheda very well. He said I probably knew it too. I would remind him I live about two-and-a-half miles from Drogheda; I think he lives about eight or nine miles from it. In fact, I am the nearest TD to Drogheda town in a different constituency. I was tempted a couple of months ago to slice some of it off, but I decided I would not like to disturb the peace of that little county, so I left them as they were.

Of course, Drogheda Corporation looked for 3,041 acres from Meath and 1,148 from Louth, that is, a total of 4,189 acres. In view of the fact that the existing size of the town is 1,486 acres, I think it was a bit much to look for such an extension. The size now will be 3,201 acres. They have got an increase of 115 per cent in the size of the town. I have known Drogheda for 34 years. It is a great town and there are great people in it. One extraordinary thing is that quite a number of the people from Drogheda moved out into County Meath, not, as Deputy Faulkner says, because they had nowhere else to go but because for a long period Meath County Council gave both supplementary grants and loans when they were not available in County Louth. The result is that there are little pockets of houses all around the town. Then the Drogheda Corporation followed by bringing out some of the sizeable areas of local authority houses, bought land in County Meath and built in County Meath. It is only right, in my opinion, that this should be taken back in again.

I do not think Deputy Faulkner was quite correct in his reference to my policy of "not an inch", which, in fact, it was at the time. I was a member of Meath County Council and what riled me at the time was that the application was made to the then Minister for Local Government to alter the boundary and to bring part of Meath and Louth into Drogheda and part of Meath into Louth. However, Meath County Council were never approached about it. As a member of the council, I was aware that if they had been approached there could have been discussions and one never knows what the outcome would have been. It would have saved a lot of money. I propose in legislation which is at an advanced stage of preparation, and which I propose to introduce in the next session, to include a provision which would prevent this waste of public money. It is a waste of money in my view to have these expensive inquiries before a necessary extension is put into operation. I do not think Drogheda Corporation thought they were going to get anything like the amount of land they asked for.

It is wrong of Deputy Faulkner to suggest that Meath did not give anything. In fact, they have given 718 acres and Drogheda Corporation are well satisfied with that. They have also got a first-class hotel and several factories which were built in County Meath. It is true that a number of small industries which were set up seven or eight years ago in Drogheda have closed down. However, quite a number of industries have started and Deputy Faulkner should not overlook the fact that the people who run the town and the business community have been fighting all the time for more industries. They have been getting them and, as Deputy Faulkner is aware, there is another sizeable industry on its way to Drogheda. When we hear the figures for unemployment in Drogheda quoted people seem to forget, if it suits them, that they cover a wide area in counties Louth and Meath; they do not represent Drogheda town alone. A man recently told me he was finding it difficult to get workers in Drogheda town and that suggests that the situation is not as bad as Deputy Faulkner paints it.

One of the biggest objections the people who would be going into the Drogheda boundary would have is that they would be losing whatever agricultural grants and facilities they were getting from Meath County Council but which are not available from Louth County Council. What has been done is very reasonable. After I announced my decision in principle as to the size of the extension to be granted, Drogheda Corporation offered to cede some 217 acres of the land located in the south-east, which Deputy Faulkner referred to, for 297 acres in the Rathmullen area to the west and outside of that area to be brought into Drogheda. On 12th December, 1973, the Department wrote to Drogheda Corporation and suggested that the matter be discussed with Meath County Council and that the Department be advised of the outcome of the discussions in the light of which the Minister would be prepared to consider the proposal. I would have been prepared to go along with any agreement reached locally on the matter but no agreement was reached. Apart from this I was advised that technically there was no compelling reason for recommending the swop suggested by the corporation because of sewerage considerations and the development of the area requested by the corporation as a swop was many years away. In addition, if the borough is to remain an independent planning authority it should have control over the area to the south-east, which Drogheda Corporation propose to exclude, especially if it seemed likely that private development would take place in this area.

In my view Drogheda Corporation are not dissatisfied with the outcome. They have got a very sizeable portion of land on which to develop. They have got an area 115 per cent greater than the size of the town up to now. As Deputy Faulkner is aware, the last revision of the town boundary was in 1897 or 1898 when the area was brought out as far as Black Bull on the Dublin Road on the Meath side. I suggest that the corporation work as hard as they can on the area they are getting now and if they come back in another 70 or 80 years and say they have not enough land we will consider giving them another bit.

Question put and agreed to.

When is it proposed to take Committee Stage?

I agree to take Committee Stage because I assume the Minister will hardly agree to any amendments in relation to the transferred areas.

No. We notified both local authorities in September that this was the proposed change and they have been working on that. Apart from anything else, that would be one compelling reason why it would not be right to change it now.

The Schedule states that the order will come into operation on 1st January next or in the event of the Act confirming this Order not becoming law on or before that day, on such day as the Minister shall, by order, appoint. Would the Minister explain that?

I put that in to cater for the unlikely event of Deputy Faulkner being unreasonable. I knew he would be reasonable.

Agreed to take remaining Stages today.

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