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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 11 May 1977

Vol. 299 No. 5

Finance Bill, 1977: Second Stage (Resumed).

Question again proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

The first major conclusion that may be drawn from the discussions on this Finance Bill and the effects on the economy of previous Bills is the conclusion that seems to be drawn by the Central Bank, and certainly by us on this side of the House, that, despite extraordinarily high borrowing over the past four years or more by this Government, little or no change has taken place in the level of unemployment. The national debt has been increased by a little over two and a half times the debt at the beginning of 1973. This in effect means that the national debt during this year will come to something in the region of £4 billion, that is to say that where all previous Governments from 1922 to 1973 in the servicing of infrastructure area created an overall debt of approximately £1? billion or £1,350 million, the present Government in the following four years have added over £2,500 million to that debt. Where the servicing of that debt annually is now in or around £400,000,000 per year this Government are responsible for something not very short of £300,000,000 per annum in the annual service of debt. I cite that because of the conclusion arrived at earlier.

I believe that the principal justification for the extraordinary gamble in which this Government have been engaged over the past four years has been the endeavour to achieve one of the original 14 points put forward by the two Coalition Parties early in 1973, the reduction of unemployment under a programme of planned economic development. The result that we now see is a level of debt far in excess of what a small State like this can afford. At the same time there is little or no progress in the overall aim put forward by the Government.

The General Review for 1977 of the Central Bank says, and I quote from page 7:

The outturn in 1976 and the prospects for 1977 indicate that the economy is recovering from the recession of earlier years. Very little progress has, however, been made in solving the related problems of inflation and unemployment.

Apart from the disastrous effects of uncontrolled inflation this is the most important critical analysis of this Government's performance. In that period of a little over four years prices of goods are virtually 100 per cent, or just approaching it, higher than the general level of prices when the Coalition Government took office.

I referred to the proposals put forward in the famous 14 points of the Coalition. Point 3 was headed "Stopping the Price Rise". It said that the immediate economic aims of the new Government would be to stabilise prices, halt redundancies and reduce unemployment under a programme of planned economic development. It went on to say that it was essential to control prices if these important economic aims were to be realised and that the Government would, therefore, immediately introduce strict price control. The Government can really be criticised in relation to those three aims in point 3. Comment on the results we are facing today is not necessary.

The Minister talks about creating more jobs without fuelling inflation as if the past four years had never happened, as if inflation had not been fuelled in a significant measure by the Government's financial policy. Almost as if it were an election item, the Minister went on to say that the Government anticipated that over the next few months unemployment will fall below 100,000 for the first time in two and a half years. The Minister must really mean that in the short time before the leaving certificate examinations end because as we know once the school examinations have ended the number of people seeking employment, which will not be available, will be not far short of 40 per cent of the existing level of unemployment as recorded. This very large number of young people coming on the labour market will have little prospect of a job and they cannot have much confidence in this Government's ability to cope with the problem of unemployment.

The Taoiseach recently got great cover out of his forecast of the reduced level of inflation to 13 per cent. One can almost smell an election. This forecast, if it should prove to be anywhere near right, will probably be influenced by a number of factors. The economists believe that one of the factors that might help is the recent drop in interest rates introduced by the Bank of England for its own reasons, the reduced rate being partially followed by the Irish banking system. That fall in inflation, if it takes place, may also be helped by a number of other factors such as some tax remedies, some effort made by the Minister to encourage enterprise, having discouraged it over a period of years during which we pointed out the dangers of the discouragement of enterprise in which the Government were engaged. The Minister has now introduced some measures of relief long after they were needed, and in the opinion of many, because the Government must face an election and put forward some sort of programme to the public.

Deputy Halligan in his eagerness to defend the Minister postulates his new principle that no small country has influence over its own rate of inflation, that it must follow the currency to which it is attached. I agree that Deputy Halligan is partly right but if the argument is to be put forward, that our close connection with the £ is the cause of all our difficulties, then why have we a higher level of inflation than Britain? Whose fault is that? What is being quite obviously overlooked in the theory of our close association with a neighbouring country is the much more important question of motivation of the community towards creating a better economic state of affairs. That sort of motivation must begin with the example set by the political leadership in Government. This Government failed the people when it lost its head over the oil crisis, when over a period the Arabs imposed an increase of 12p per gallon and the Government over the same period imposed an additional 35p in tax. Was this following Britain's lead or was it taking the easy road by cashing in on the oil crisis to evade the consequences of over-borrowing and over-expenditure?

Some Government Deputies do themselves little credit if they close their eyes to the easy way out policies of the National Coalition. Apart from the generating of inflation through over-expenditure, the Government's high taxes on petrol, a tax imposed on a transport industry very unlike that in Britain and in very different social circumstances, played a part in increasing the level of unemployment, increasing wage demands with their consequential additional inflationary effect in the follow-up increases in the price of all goods and services.

The sorry situation of the doubling of prices, the escalation of wages and other costs, arose to a considerable degree from the Government's lack of lead in those earlier years. In his references to taxation the Minister said he wished to sketch the changes "lest eaten bread be forgotten". He went on to suggest that the taxes were fairer than those under the previous regime and much fairer to the typical manager and worker whose performance was crucial to the future of the country. I would not suggest that the tax system of the previous regime was perfect. We all in our own way had criticisms to make from time to time but I wonder if the Minister is really serious when he made the statement I have just referred to. Even a cursory glance at the statistical table issued in connection with the budget indicates that the beneficiaries from tax changes other than in the company area lie in the small and more privileged £8,500 to £20,000 per annum class of our society. One can see from that table that allowing for earned income and so far as the vast bulk of tax paying earners were concerned not only was the eaten bread soon forgotten but they found that with reliefs ranging from £1 to £3 per week they had to pay for the bread having eaten it in rapidly increasing costs, the costs of foodstuffs, transport, postal charges, fuel and telephone charges and other items.

In other words, the increases, following on the budget reliefs and excluding the minority of higher paid categories, outweighed the tax reliefs. The budget really was not good news after all when one came to think about it and experienced the effects of the increases.

When the Minister spoke of a major programme of taxation which he has introduced and included in it the ending of death duties he did not mention their replacement by capital gains and gift taxes, the effect of which we have not properly seen yet but which, almost, though not quite, create an as-you-were situation. Certainly, in the tax area the value so far of some of these new taxes in my opinion has been completely outweighed by the disincentive effect caused by some of the taxes. For example, in the returns for the first four months of this year one finds that corporation taxes showed an increase of £36 million against the first four months of last year and that value-added tax showed a rise of £28 million for the same period as against last year. The item appearing against capital taxes shows that the Exchequer gained £1 million in the first four months of this year as against £1½ million in the first four months of last year. The point I am pressing here is the disincentive effect of some tax measures introduced by the Minister especially having regard to the fact that other countries, presumed to be in a better situation than ourselves and also being governed at the time by Labour governments, such as Britain and Australia, abandoned those kind of taxes for the present. That is what we recommended some years ago to the Minister, not having any fixed ideas against fair taxation. The important aspect as far as we were concerned was the effect on enterprise, the effect on incentive and the benefit that can be obtained from a good incentive policy and I do not think the Government's capital gains tax at a fixed rate of 26 per cent, whether that 26 per cent is levied on a hard worked business run for a lifetime or on the area which Fianna Fáil favour, the speculator's fast profit through buying and selling property at the expense, perhaps, of some less able individual, could possibly be regarded as a fairer tax.

One is driven to wonder what the effect of this tax will be in some years' time, particularly if the Government maintain their inflationary record and do not allow for the effects of inflation in assessing tax. Despite the blunders of his earlier tax Bills, which were avoided by other Governments, it is encouraging to find the Minister saying the Government must be concerned to encourage development anywhere it can increase employment and add to the produced wealth of the nation. During the debates on some of the tax Bills, the Opposition said similar things so often that the Minister must have got them off by heart.

In dealing with the building industry the Minister referred to the stamp duty relief on office buildings. Nowhere can I find in his provisions any hope for young couples who do not qualify for SDA or local authority houses. Surely the Minister must know that, if you are in the 22-year-old to 30-year-old bracket and you are not in the category that can qualify you for public housing, you have little or no hope of being able to acquire a home unless you are in the minority to which I referred earlier, the privileged level of £8,500 to £20,000. I wonder when will the Minister wake up to the fact that inflation, for which he and his Government have a considerable responsibility, has closed the door on the young middle classes so far as house purchase is concerned. It may create a situation similar to that in the past when their only hope lay in emigration to solve their financial problems and to seek better opportunities elsewhere.

Even if the Minister is unaware of the plight of young people who cannot cope with the inflated costs of housing, he ought to take note of recent economic comments on the construction industry. I refer to an article in a paper on Monday last headed "Outlook remains fairly bleak". In the course of the article the commentator says:

Unemployment in the industry continues at a very high level with a reputed 25,000 building workers unemployed. Figures published by the Central Statistics Office last week show that the number of building workers in the private sector unemployed during February was 13% above the average unemployment level in 1975.

These figures seem certain to increase, as firms in the sector continue to lay off workers.

On Friday one firm announced that it was going to make 250 workers, general and administrative, redundant over the next month while redundancies were also announced by other firms on the same day. That firm attributed the redundancies to the continuing depressed state of demand for building materials, and the fact that it could foresee no improvement in the level of building activity in the future. The firm said that the depressed level of demand was evident both in the public and private sectors, though it had been perticularly hard hit "by the severe cut-back in road expenditure in the past two years". Further on the statement indicates that increases already this year suggest that the level of prices in that sector has already increased by 15 per cent. So much for an inflation rate of 13 per cent, if housing prices are already up by 15 per cent in the first four months of this year. The Minister's financial policy as represented in this and previous Bills does not measure up to what our community needs, although I would acknowledge that the latest effort represents some improvement in the area of encouraging incentives.

One of the great dangers which lies in an Opposition revealing their ideas about the economy, as Fianna Fáil did last autumn in their emergency economic package then published, is that the Government may latch on to some of the ideas, perhaps, because the Opposition have created a favourable climate. If, as in the present case, the Government are merely trying to get away from the consequences of their own bad management, and they use some good ideas, but lack the overall confidence which the Opposition would have in their own thinking, they may just succeed in putting the economy in a worse situation than if the Opposition had remained silent. The danger I see is that good ideas can work once but frequently not a second time, and we as a community may run out of options to restore the economy in the way Fianna Fáil proposed in their published economic package.

One of the most questionable things which has occurred this year is the effect the imminence of a general election appears to have had on members of the Government over the past few weeks. The instance mentioned by our party leader this morning of the Minister for Labour publishing his name and photograph in the Press at the taxpayers' expense is one example of how anxious Ministers have become and, I would suggest, a most unpleasant example. In the past few weeks we have heard so much good news that the unfortunate elector who has to decide who the next Government should be may think everything in the garden is rosy. Presumably that is the intention behind some of the recent statements.

Factories seem to be about to spring up all over the country. The Taoiseach says the inflation rate will fall. The Tánaiste is forecasting thousands of jobs. The Minister for Industry and Commerce talked in the United States about £90 million fresh capital for the establishment of new industry. We know that even if things go well and the firms concerned go ahead with their plans in most cases it is unlikely that jobs will be provided before the early eighties. Never mind, it sounds good so long as the voters can be influenced just this once. One can sense the atmosphere of people saying to themselves "Let us think up all the bright promises before we have to go to the country".

However, in the final analysis it is the people who must decide. There is no easy way for an economy, not with promises or rosy pictures to it. The people must be offered a fresh start and this can only be provided by a political leadership that has confidence in its ability, as we have on this side of the House. The motivating force of confidence and a belief in the community's will to master the economy is the spirit that exists here and which appears to be sadly lacking on the Government's side. The people will have to make their choice when the opportunity presents itself, as it will in the very near future.

I realise the frustration of the Opposition. It was quite evident in the last few minutes of Deputy Brugha's speech when he referred to the Government and certain Ministers making statements about industry and job creation. He said we were making promises because it was nearing election time in an effort to fool people. It is not possible to fool people because they have commonsense.

The present situation is due to the recession of the last three years which has affected the western world. We are coming out of the recession slowly and, consequently, jobs will be coming on stream. The Minister for Industry and Commerce who has been abroad on promotional tours has come back with good news. We are told that there will be a substantial investment which will lead to greater job creation. One does not indulge in election gimmicks with that kind of news. Our problem is that of unemployment and it is the responsibility of the Government to do something about it. That is what the budget has been about. We want to create the right climate to encourage the business world into further investment. The tax reforms this year are a typical example of the intention of the Government to ensure that business is not impeded. The reduction in corporation tax is a positive step and reports from the various business organisations indicate that there is an up-turn in the economy. That is very encouraging.

We must create between 30,000 and 40,000 new jobs each year to meet the needs of our people. That will be a mammoth task. It will take courage on the part of the Government. The one thing that can be said about this Government is that they are united and strong and have a sense of purpose. Deputy Brugha said that his party were an Opposition of ideas and unity and he said in government they would have the will to do the job. The Deputy is not fooling anybody on that score. All of us know the divisions that exist on the far side of the House; the Members there are Haughey men, Colley men, Lynch men or something else. That kind of situation will not create any kind of confidence. The people are not slow to realise the score when they consider the alternative to this Government. There is no doubt that Fianna Fáil are totally divided and cannot give any sense of leadership at present.

When the people are given the opportunity to vote they will quite clearly return the present Government to office. They realise that this Government came into office when things were bad throughout the world. We weathered the storm fairly well although I accept that unemployment has risen. Even if we did not have the recession we would have had unemployment problems because during the years our industries were overprotected; they were allowed to run down, they did not re-equip and they could not compete. In addition to that existing problem of unemployment we also had to cope with the recession and this was a double-edged sword against the Government.

In all the circumstances so far as possible the Government cushioned the people against the worst effects of the recession by giving good social welfare benefits. It was only right that the least well-off section should have been protected against the cold winds of recession. The Government's record on social welfare can be examined closely and it will stand up to that examination. I do not believe that giving social welfare is the only thing that a Government should do but I believe that in the particular situation in which we found ourselves the Government had the courage to make the right decisions.

I believe that we will have to have a mixed type of enterprise board to look after job creation. All the financial institutions and the Government should be brought together to ensure that there is absolute cohesion through the business world and in conjunction with the Government. The day has gone when the Government wave a magic wand and everything is put right. All sections of the community must play effective roles within society to ensure that we attain our aim of full employment. The Government can make certain incentives available but unless industry and the agricultural community avail of them they do not achieve very much. I am always a bit wary of boards because once they are set up they tend to get bigger and do not necessarily achieve much beyond that.

It is important that we should look at the idea of setting up a State enterprise board to look after job creation. Former Coalition Governments set up boards and semi-State bodies to deal with industry and these have proved very effective and have stood the test of time. We should look at the situation now to see how we can get all these agencies together to ensure that all our efforts are in the right direction. I am confident that given another four years to get on with the job that benefits will start to accure from now on.

There has been a slight recession in the building industry which, basically, has been on the side of office development. Most other businesses took a knock during the recession. Now that there have been concessions in relation to stamp duty I believe that office development will improve. When developers see an up-turn in commercial development they will get back into office development which will bring the building industry back into full production.

The Government's record in relation to house building is first class. They were committed to a programme of roughly 25,000 houses a year and that has been maintained. Large sums of money have been allocated to house building over the last four years. In Dublin city this year £25 million is to be spent on local authority housing. That does not take into account the SDA loans and grants. The money which is still flowing into building societies is also playing an active part in the industry and is an indication of the confidence in the country.

The Government did not have an office building commitment. There has been a downturn in this side of the development because of the recession. I believe, now that we are coming out of it, that this side of the industry will also develop. There seem to be misleading statements coming from the various building federations about a down-turn of this development. They should realise the amount of money the Government have pumped into the building industry and they should examine the facts before they start to make false statements.

The taxation changes in the budget are only a follow on to what the Government have been attempting to do since they came to office. The Minister for Finance has worked tremendously hard to try to get some semblance of workability within the tax code. He has also introduced a new form of taxation, wealth tax, capital gains tax and inheritance tax. He did that under great opposition. Now that it has been done I do not see the same opposition or business or wealth flying out of the country.

It is important that a nation has a proper tax system and ensures that there is equity. Under the former system the people under PAYE paid their full share of taxation. The Minister for Finance ensured that the net was widened and that all forms of tax avoidance are stopped as far as possible. The returns prove how successful he has been in getting in tax. We can then set out about paying better social welfare payments and have greater creation of jobs and more money invested.

It took courage to tax the farming community for the first time. The political thing would be to have left it alone. The honest thing was to ensure that everybody paid his way. All sections of society benefit from all the Government services. Health, education and social welfare are paid for out of taxation. I believe that we all have a duty to make our contribution and I have no doubt that the farming community feel the same way. Nobody likes paying tax. It tends to create problems when certain people are taxed for the first time but I believe the farming community have accepted this.

The Minister has shown courage in the attitude he adopted. He has not acted in a party political way. Indeed, it would not be right for him to act in such a way. We are here to govern and to give leadership. This Government and our Taoiseach have given the leadership that is necessary and I am convinced that when the people go to the polls again, they will return us to office on the basis of our record which speaks for itself. We hear much talk of inflation and of price rises but the basic fact remains that living standards have improved during our time in office. This is no mean achievement when one has regard to the various factors with which we have had to contend. With our re-election for a further term at least, the people can look forward to prosperity in the eighties and nineties. The potential for development is great. We now have a worthwhile mining industry and, hopefully, there will be further gas finds. These considerations coupled with the developments in our agricultural industry augur well for a bright future. Ours is a small nation but our impact on Europe is significant. Our Ministers have fought hard abroad for the best deals possible for us. At all times they are prepared to play an effective role within the EEC and within the arena of world politics generally.

As I said at the outset, this year's budget can be regarded as a springboard for our entire economy. The potential is there but we must harness it to the best possible advantage. That is why I say that we must have effective overall planning. I am confident that the course being taken by the Government will produce the 30,000 to 40,000 jobs that are necessary to keep our people at work. It is noteworthy that there has been virtually no emigration since we came to office. That is a factor in our unemployment figures being so high. I was always of the opinion that the best of our people emigrated, the ones with flair and drive who wished to move on to other places. However, the tendency now is for them to stay at home, thereby giving us the benefit of their qualities.

Although not necessarily related to the Finance Bill, the whole area of education is worth mentioning at this stage. Our entire education system needs re-structuring in order to equip people to meet the needs of this technological age. We must place greater emphasis on technical education as opposed to academic achievements. This is an area in which money would be well spent because if we are to develop our potential to the full we must have ready the trained personnel to take up the slack when the jobs become available: otherwise, we shall miss the boat. We must have expertise at all levels but it is in the sphere of education that we must begin.

I am happy with the present state of the nation. We are moving in the right direction. From reading the various business and finance columns in newspapers and magazines, it is obvious that there is a positive upturn in the economy. This improvement has resulted from the policies adopted in this year's budget, especially in the area of tax reform. Overall, tax reforms have been opposed down through the years but in the future people will realise how correct the Minister has been in the policies he has adopted in this regard. The extra revenue that will be available to the Exchequer will allow us to develop further our resources and it is only by developing our resources that we will create the level of employment that is necessary. These, then, are some of the reasons for my looking forward to this Government being returned to office. During the coming four years they will have the opportunity of bringing to fruition their efforts of the past four years.

I wish to pay a special tribute to the Minister for Finance who, since his appointment, has had to contend with criticism from practically every organisation. He has been hard working and diligent in carrying out his duties and the results of his efforts will be seen in the years ahead.

The Minister's speech this year on the Finance Bill was very different from the sort of speech we are accustomed to on the Finance Bill each year. I have just been pondering how different the situation would be if the script had been written during the first year in office of the Government. We must concern ourselves seriously with the element of political chicanery that prevails throughout the whole effort of manipulation by the Government of government business. I cannot refer to their policy since they do not have one. The Minister's speech was the most blatant piece of effrontery on the political side that this House has ever been subjected to. Indeed, the first nine pages are nothing short of jingoistic soapbox oratory more suitable to the hustings. The speech actually finished with an appeal to the electorate. This is the most serious Bill that comes before this House in that it is supposed to indicate what the Government are doing and what the effect will be of the budgetary proposals. It is supposed to point the way to what the Government will do in the future based on what they have been doing in the past.

Yesterday's performance was a sorrowful one and, divorced from its political content, the speech leaves a great deal of room for serious thought in regard to the future. If the speech were being drafted for the Minister in the first year of a new Government's life it would be a very different speech from what it was in the last year of this Government's life virtually on the eve of an election. Everybody is concerned about what the future holds. There has been a good deal of speculation in the last few weeks, Old Moore Almanac type of predictions about the jobs that will be created and what may happen. We are now hoping that the change in world conditions will rub off to the extent here that we will benefit.

What have we done in the past to prepare for the better upturn in the economy now predicted? That is a position we have to consider seriously. Undoubtedly the improvement in world conditions is bound to have some effect here if the stage is set to take full advantage of the improvement. But is it? Money to be channelled into investment for job creation is the keynote. Will we have money to use for that purpose? If we have, how will it be used? There is no indication in all the political talk to which we have been listening and in the assurances that have been given that that will happen. We know that £1 out of every £5 collected in revenue will go to service debt built up by borrowing in the last few years of mismanagement. We know that our balance of payments is in a fairly serious condition. We are certain that if there is an improvement in economic conditions this balance of payments will come under serious pressure, pressure to the extent that we could have a really serious balance of payments problem because nothing has been done by the Minister to protect our current balance of payments position. We are now in a position where any improvement in world economic conditions is not likely to take effect here as rapidly as it should or could were the proper policies operated.

Looking at the Minister's speech one notices he takes credit for certain things which have not yet happened and, if they do happen, will not be due to any action by the Government. The opening theme deals with the way in which our taxation system has been reformed. This is laughable because the position now is that everybody pays more tax than he paid before. The Minister boasts that he has widened the base of taxation. He has spread the taxation net so far, in other words, that even old age pensioners have been paying tax and, in shame, the Minister had to take some steps to obviate the need for old age pensioners to pay tax. What happened was that in the budget to which this Bill gives effect certain adjustments were made to cope with inflation. The 20 per cent inflation in the past year, the 100 per cent inflation since the Minister took office, has thrown things completely out of gear and it is absolutely necessary that there should be downward adjustments to meet that situation. The inflationary spiral has engulfed more people in taxation and has left those who were subject to taxation in the past paying much more than would be justifiable in normal circumstances. The Minister, after four years of serious inflation, has now repented for reasons which are fairly obvious and has made some effort to repair the damage he has already done.

One reference in his speech to what he has been doing this year is laughable. He refers to domestic inflation and he says: "We are still unfortunately influenced by imported inflation"—this is what all our trouble was blamed on in the past—"but domestic inflationary influences on incomes and fiscal fronts are now under better control. In two deliberate ways the Government are this year making a contribution to easing the rate of inflation." I have frequently asked here why the Minister or any member of the Government has never apologised for not taking action to control domestic inflation in the past. If the Deputy who has just spoken is not content with the speech he has just made I think he could do better than engage the Minister for Finance in distraction. If the Minister is not prepared to listen to what is going on in this House, he should get out and let somebody else sit in his place.

Is it in order for a Deputy to be sitting on the stairs in the manner in which Deputy O'Brien is, chatting away to the Minister? In deference to the Deputy Leader of our party he should pay more attention. Is it in order that he should be treated in that manner?

It is in total keeping with the arrogance of the Minister and his complete lack of interest in anything he wishes to bulldoze through this House. I am not the slightest bit surprised at that complete lack of even ordinary manners.

I am sorry, Deputy.

I was pointing out that the Minister has not once come in to this House to apologise to the people or explain why the action he takes in this Bill was not taken in every other budget he piloted through the House in the past four years and, God knows, there were quite a number of them. This is referred to as the sixth budget but in fact it must be about the twenty-sixth. We have now engendered a system of extracting the proverbial blood from a stone by imposing taxes in the interim period between budgets. The most serious imposition of taxes in which the Minister took part was that implemented by statutory order which went through this House in four or five minutes. Those were the budgets which really took effect.

For a number of years we have been sick listening to the Minister and other Government members stating that due to factors beyond their control this, that or the other was happening. But the Government, when they came near the end of their term of office, suddenly discovered there were a lot of things they could do. They began then unwinding the serious imposition of taxes which had fuelled inflation, crippled employment and made it impossible for the industrialist to exist. Why does the Minister not explain why the action he is taking now was not taken in a previous budget? It has been pointed out frequently, and must again, that 25 per cent of the increase in the cost of living last year was due to budgetary action. The Minister's imposition of taxes was responsible for 25 per cent of the increase in the consumer price index last year. Why? The answer is obvious to everybody, and I shall come to that later.

Now we are being given some relief. When we issued our policy document in September last on how to deal with the economic emergency in the short-term we spelled out a number of important things we proposed. But the Minister for Finance, the following day, cynically criticised the taking of any such action and said it was impracticable. One of our proposals was the immediate provision of money for the relief of unemployment. One of the many others we made was the removal of rates from private dwellings. These proposals were criticised as being impracticable and not justified. Yet the Minister, in this budget, saw fit to copy—even to a small degree—the exact proposals made in that paper. While he did not see fit to abolish rates on private dwellings, he did abolish one quarter, the half of the second moiety. That enabled the Government to send round a leaflet to every ratepayer telling him of the gift he would receive with the payment of the second moiety of his rates. It is all part of the political campaign for which public money is being used every day and which will continue unless the Committee of Public Accounts take serious action—as it is their duty to do—to check the misappropriaion of moneys now rampant in what is one of the biggest exercises of political corruption this country has experienced for a long time. It may not stop there, when one sees—as has been pointed out recently—a Minister having his photograph and facsimile of his signature published in the Press bearing the caption: "I'll pay you £20 per week for every extra person you employ". No doubt the Minister for Finance will follow up with his photograph and signature, saying "I am reducing corporation tax by £10". Big deal. Having scourged people for the past four years, they should feel good getting a little easement now.

Is that the type of Government the country deserves? Is that the type of Government the people went out to elect in 1973? Was that the type of Government they expected when they supported the two parties now forming the Coalition? They had something to guide them then. Going before the people that time the Coalition were somewhat different from previous occasions; they came together before the election and drafted a policy document. On the two previous occasions they did not do that. They came together after the election. On the last occasion they came together beforehand and agreed on the policy points on which they could work together, pledging themselves to the manifesto they published. Therefore the people, when they did support them, had some guidance. In the coming election they will be judged on the basis of how they honoured or dishonoured that pledge. I would strongly recommend to the people on this occasion that their main criterion should be an assessment of past performance. "We will stop the price rise." That was one of the 14 points and another was "We will stabilise the cost of living and reduce unemployment."

The Minister yesterday was boasting that unemployment could be well below the 100,000 mark this summer. That is a marvellous thing to boast about but we must remember that they said they would reduce unemployment and stop the price rise. Our people have become so stunned by the continuous increases in prices that they, like the Government, throw up their hands in despair. We all know of the many items that increased in price recently but many other things one must purchase have increased a great deal more in the last four years. One does not know whether one is paying ten times the price charged in 1973 or not. Apparently, nobody cares and nobody is paying the slightest attention.

The Minister uttered serious words when he was on the threshold of a wage agreement last December. He gave us all a solemn warning then and told us that it would be unwise for anyone to assume as certain the tax cuts which the Government wanted to give in the 1977 budget. He said the tax cuts would be possible only if there was pay restraint and that despite improvement in the economy and the budgetary position in 1976 there were still many difficulties in the nation's financial position. The Minister said that while the gap between tax revenue and necessary expenditure remained unacceptably wide it would be lunacy to try to widen it by even more foreign borrowing. He said that if pay rates rise too fast and too high more tax, not less, would have to be collected to meet a swollen public sector pay bill. The Minister also said that facts were facts, even if unpopularity was the reward for stating them. This is not a time for unpopularity. That was all right in trying to get the workers to accept an element of pay restraint. The Minister was facing up to the realities of this situation then but it is a different ball game now. We are now on the platform and the Minister is appealing to the electorate.

In the course of his speech yesterday, most of which could be described as an election speech, the Minister stated:

Taxpayers would be well advised in their own interests to be distrustful of those who would freely spend money which only the taxpayer can supply.

The taxpayer has been supplying money ad lib over the last four years and if he was distrustful he had good reason to be. He has got his belly full of tax imposition during that time and he has every right to be distrustful. The Minister went on with this final appeal before he jumped off the election platform:

If electors support grandiose expenditure proposals, they will only have themselves to blame if tax rates rise again to pay for them. This course does not commend itself to this Government who want to see the tax concessions of the 1977 budget retained and improved upon. A careful balance will therefore have to be maintained to preserve a sensible level of public expenditure and a tolerable level of taxation.

There was no applause after that but there would have been had the Minister been at a crossroads. The people have not merely been scourged with new taxes and consequential increases in prices but they have witnessed those taxes being imposed to pay public sector incomes. They witnessed money being borrowed in millions to be used for purposes other than productive development. They realise that no effort was made to channel money collected in taxes or borrowed into productive development to protect existing employment let alone to create new employment. They are told now that the position has changed dramatically—to use the Minister's own word—and this will all happen now. There is a change of heart and the advice given to the Minister by this side of the House frequently and by those who were in a position to advise him that he was moving in a wrong direction is now being accepted.

The Minister knew he was moving in the wrong direction but he had to look over his shoulder and ensure that those sitting behind him were kept happy or otherwise the show would have broken up and we would again have two separate parties. That is why the country has been suffering the evils we have experienced in the last four years. It is only now, for the purpose of trying to buy another period in office, that an effort is being made to ease the damage done in the past. A lot of money is required if we are to have productive development. We expect the main growth area to be manufacturing industry and that growth requires three things which were expressed last night on television by the world famous economist, Mr. Galbraith. When asked about the hopes for this country he said that if prices and incomes could be restrained and the competitiveness of our goods protected certain progress could be made. One did not need to be the author of uncertainty to make that statement.

One of the questions of last year's leaving certificate examination dealt with the same point in a different way. It is elementary. Why did the Minister not practise that in the years past? When the greatest possible restraint is required in relation to prices and incomes and the competitiveness in production required protection why was it not applied? Why did we go on borrowing and taxing to pay for unproductive things? Nobody will answer that question but everybody really knows that the reason is the conflict of political philosophy and opinion, the dichotomy in a Government comprised of two diametrically opposed ideologies. That is the reason why we have not had the type of policy that would be needed to ensure that the inflationary period—which was undoubtedly world-wide—would least affect the economy and that we could minimise its effect.

No member of the Government ever gets up to talk without starting off by saying "Due to this terrible world recession such as has never been experienced before, we have been coming through a difficult time and we are now emerging from it due to the excellent way the Government have handled the situation." We are sick and tried of listening to that. This imported inflation—and exported inflation also plays a part—is being over-played and exaggerated. The Government are really making excuses for their failure to handle the situation as it should have been handled. If we import raw materials which have gone up in price, naturally that increase will be reflected in the manufactured goods. If we export goods for sale to markets where they obtain a high price, naturally the price in the home market will be higher too. We refer to that as exported inflation. These two inflations do play a part but the extent to which domestic inflation affects the situation would have diminished by now had it been properly handled. Our unemployment figures should be less than half of what they are present. If Fianna Fáil had continued in power, prices would have increased by one-third of what the increase was and in some cases not at all over that period. The Government's excuse about the increase in the price of oil has been blown sky-high because the Arabs put 12p on to the price of oil, whereas our own Minister put 35p on. If it was a serious imposition by the Arabs to increase the price of energy in this country, then the Minister made sure that he did twice as well—more than twice in fact. Why?

In the Government, with an ultrasocialist mix, does anybody realise that at present motoring is rapidly becoming confined exclusively to the wealthier people? Can any workingman afford to pay the increased tax on a motor car with the huge increases in insurance, if he is lucky enough to get it? The price of his driving licence is increased and there is even an increased fee for the boy or girl who applies for a driving test. There is a desperate disparity between the prices of our motor vehicles and those of other countries. We import the assembled cars and we sell them at approximately £2,000 each dearer than do the countries from which we import them. We were boasting that in our improving standard of living the motor car was becoming the commonplace mode of conveyance for our workingclass people and for everybody. People had a right to expect that. Now while many people are hanging on to ownership of a car, the cost per week to keep a 10 or 12 hp car on the road, taking into consideration depreciation, original cost, petrol, tax and insurance, is about £30 per week. Can any workingman afford that?

The same applies to other things. We had reached the stage in an improved standard of living where central heating was becoming the norm and an ordinary amenity enjoyed by everybody. The Minister saw an opportunity for this beautiful reform of taxation in the oil for central heating. The poorer people who were beginning to enjoy central heating were left shivering but the wealthier people continue to enjoy it. These matters are the outcome of bungling and pursuing a day-to-day line in the management of the country's affairs without any agreed plan, policy or programme. Speaking the other day on the IDA Bill, I mentioned this and I want to go over the ground again.

On television last night Mr. Galbraith said that no Government can go anywhere without a programme and a policy. We must have the guidelines, and it is no answer to say that we had the first, second and third programmes for social and economic development in the past and that we did not always realise the targets set. Certainly we did not. These targets may be surpassed, they may not be reached or we may be blown completely off course but it is essential to know what we are trying to do and where we are going. It is essential for private enterprise to know what the Government have planned and what their intentions are and what the future is likely to hold. Nobody can improve the economy who does not know what the policy of the Government is or what the programme is likely to be. That would be government by hit and miss, trial and error, hoping that tomorrow will bring something.

I quoted Mr. Galbraith. I was interested when he pointed out last night that to control inflation and manage an economy were much easier in a small country than in a large country. I totally agree because the components are easily available. One has not the same home market but that is not an essential element to planning and programming. It is essential for manufacturing industry to test the market where there is quantity control and quality control and so on. We need a small home market but the main hope for this country is exports. If we are to expand we must export. Exports must be protected by ensuring their competitiveness in the markets in which they are sold. In the past the weakness of sterling gave us an advantage in the non-sterling countries. The advantage has eroded by increased unit costs at home. It is not an exaggeration to say that nobody paid any attention to this. No effort was made to protect unit costs and the overall problem of incomes and prices restraint was not tackled. The Government allowed the economy to run amok. Now the Government are boasting about the extent of social welfare payments most of which are taken up by the extending unemployment queue. The old age pensioner could buy more for £6.50 in 1973 than he can now buy for the £12. We have got nowhere. The great improvements in social welfare payments promised by both parties which should have accrued as a result of our entry to the EEC as a result of our not having to meet agricultural subsidies are now eroded. Instead of social welfare recipients being better off than they were in 1973 they are worse off. Hardware and other household items which are not included in the consumer index calculation, which must be purchased, have increased outrageously. A pair of shoes that an old age pensioner could buy for £5 in 1973 now costs £16 or £17 and the 4p stamp now costs 10p.

We are told that the Bill before us is towards an amelioration of the serious tax problem we have created. We are told that it is a tremendous example of tax reform. The Minister has extended tax to everybody and everybody is paying more now than ever before. We had wealth tax, capital gains tax, acquisition tax and every type of tax that could be thought of and the Minister boasted that he abolished estate duty. I credit the Revenue people with the most resourceful minds in the country. Each time a new tax is imposed they say that it is for one's benefit, that only a few people will be hit and that it is not worth talking about but every time the net widens.

Only farmers with £100 valuation are to be taxed. When speaking on the budget in relation to farmers' tax, I said it was only a matter of time until every farmer in Ireland would be accountable for his entire operation during the year. That situation is not far away. There was some misunderstanding in relation to farmers' taxation where farmers engaged in a profession or trade would be included in the tax net. In the western seaboard area 95 per cent of farmers have non-economic holdings and they seek to supplement their incomes by seeking employment off the land. The Minister will point out that the tax applies only in relation to a profession or trade but how many small farmers operating a few acres in Donegal, Mayo or Leitrim are tradesmen who occasionally go out and build a shed or a byre for a neighbour or a house or who may be plasterers occasionally when work permits? This type of person will be discouraged. He will be compelled to keep accounts and he will be taxable on any income from the land. This will apply if any member of his household is likewise engaged. This is a disincentive to off-farm employment. At the moment it does not apply to a person paying PAYE. Like every other tax, it always applied from the £50 valuation limit. That has been removed. How easily can it be removed from the trade and profession types so that it will be applicable to every taxpayer? It was a step in the wrong direction and I seriously warn the Minister to get off that course. These people are the salt of the earth, the base of our culture, and they have suffered the brunt of our toughest years of recession more than any other class in our society. Let us not be too quick to jump on the lower echelon of the farming community.

We hear nothing but good news these days—every time the Minister opens his mouth he has good news. The rate of price increases is reported in a restrained way. Price increases are now left as the third or fourth item in the news. There is only passing reference to the fact that the Minister has sanctioned price increases for such and such items. The newspapers now publish only such things as the Minister's supposed handouts. Large advertisements appear in the provincial newspapers about all the social welfare benefits. These notices cost thousands of pounds and they are supposed to by by way of providing information. There is one bit of information that people do not get, information that is essential for them to have. It is that if UK pensioners here get an increase in their pensions their Irish old age pensions will be correspondingly decreased. This is particularly severe in the traditional emigration counties. The small print in pension books contains the information that any change in means must be reported, but very few people are able to read that. People who received increases in their UK pensions and who did not report it for six or seven months because they were not aware they had to, found that they received no Irish pension for several months.

This is not relevant to the Bill, and the Deputy should leave it.

I am delighted to leave it because it is sickening. We have been told there is a turn in the economic tide. If we are to take advantage of any such improvement we should have been preparing for it at least two years ago. Will we now be in a position to take full advantage of the expected improvement? Because of Government mismanagement we will not. We are facing the crippling burden of servicing borrowed money to the extraordinary figure of £1 in every £5. In addition, unless we are very careful we will be faced with a serious balance of payments deficit. We have not been creating more jobs or more production and consequently when the economy gains momentum we will not be prepared for it or produce any rapid development which would enable us to take advantage of an upturn in the economies of other countries. This is largely because of the millstone of debt put around our necks by the Coalition's mismanagement which has fuelled the fires of inflation and thrown the whole economy out of gear.

The Minister referred to the handouts he has been able to give. At best, that is only small compensation for his past deeds, for the burdens he himself has laid on the people. No matter how much rhetoric the Government may indulge in they cannot much longer escape the opprobrium of the people. Soon they will have to deal with an electorate who are sufficiently intelligent to analyse the situation. They will not any longer be satisfied with such promises as those contained in the 14-point programme put before them in February, 1973. As the saying goes "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". The electorate will have no cause to be ashamed this time. They will not accept any of the rosy predictions being flung at them. They will pass judgement on the stewardship of a Government who have so badly mismanaged the affairs of the country that it will take the new Fianna Fáil Government some time to repair them and bring the country back, as we had to do before, on to the road to progress and real expansion.

I should like to begin by taking up one of the points made by Deputy Brennan in regard to the opening sentences in the Minister's introductory speech. The Minister referred to this, his sixth Finance Bill. He said quite correctly that this was not the sixth budget he had introduced, or the sixth Finance Bill. We have had one budget after another by sleight of hand, by trick-o'-the-loopery as Deputy Colley, our spokesman on Finance, has referred to on many occasions, by probably the most infamous Minister for Finance since the foundation of the State.

The Deputy must not use the word "infamous".

If that is not parliamentary, I will put it in another way— the most inefficient Minister for Finance since the foundation of the State. History will judge the accuracy of that. The Minister said statistics indicate that the rate of inflation will be reduced. We all received the annual report of the Bank of Ireland this morning. It predicted a rate of inflation of 14 per cent for this year. I would not consider that far below the figure predicted by the Minister for Industry and Commerce who said it would be below 15 per cent. This table states that these figures were prepared in February of this year, long before the numerous increases in prices which must now number over 100 were granted by the Prices Commission.

For example, we had an increase in telephone charges which was phenomenal. The black and white television licence went up from 1st April of this year from £16 to £18.50. The colour television licence has been increased from £27 to £31 as from 1st April, an increase of £4. It may be said that television is a luxury item but many old people who are not of pensionable age have nothing else to rely on and some people do not qualify for a free television licence because they are not living on their own. Television is very important to many people. There is not a murmur. People are so numb that the Government take their silence for acceptance.

I do not entirely agree with one statement made by my colleague, Deputy Brennan. He said we were on the eve of an election. I am one of the few people in this House who believe the election will not come for a while. It may depend on what the next figures are likely to be. I predict in this House on 11th May, 1977, that the figure of 14 per cent predicted in this report is wrong and that it will be over 15 per cent and most likely closer to the 18 per cent we had last year. I do not want to be a Jeremiah but I know the feelings of the public about the cost of living, and the way prices have increased. Virtually all the benefits in the budget have been wiped out with very few exceptions. One exception are those people who have an income of £10,000 or more and who got tax reliefs. Under that figure, any concessions given have been wiped out. When I said the Taoiseach would get an extra £38 a week because of the tax relief I was wrong. I thought he was getting £20,000 but I believe it is approximately £15,000 and he will get an increase of £30 a week only, the poor man. That will upset the man who was to get only £1 or £2 or £3 a week but that has been wiped out. The report of the marvellous concession which is circulating around the country at the moment about a 25 per cent rates relief——

The Deputy will appreciate that details are more relevant to Estimates. This is a taxation measure.

I am talking about taxation measures and reliefs. The Minister talked about the reliefs he gave but I want to talk about one of the reliefs he says he has given but which he has not given, that is, the 25 per cent rates relief on private dwellings. Due to the withdrawal of subsidies by the Government, Dublin Corporation's increase in rates is in excess of 25 per cent. There is no benefit whatever over last year to the hard-pressed ratepayer. When we talk about the total abolition of rates on private dwellings it means something because there will be no rates on private dwellings. There is no difference between the Minister for Finance and the Minister for Labour advertising himself except that the corporation did not put the Minister's picture on the rates demand.

Petrol has increased in price. I asked the Minister how much revenue was received from the Exchequer through excise duty, VAT, and so on. The Exchequer pays out £30 million in subsidies to CIE every year and I wanted to know how much they were receiving back. I was told that information would not be given because it was not the policy to divulge the private affairs of a company. I never realised that CIE were a private company. I thought they were a State-owned company. This is disgraceful. I would be very interested to get that information and I intend to get those figures.

The increase in bus fares is crippling people with young children going to school. People travelling short journeys have to subsidise those travelling long journeys. There is a feeling of injustice in society. Our inflation which is the worst in Europe and will continue to be the worst in Europe is generated by a Government who have no understanding of economics. As I said last week, when the Arabs increased the price of a gallon of petrol by 12p, the Minister increased it by 35p. No doubt he will get his whack out of the latest increase of 1p or 2p per gallon in some cases, so the price has increased by about 36p per gallon since 1973.

I have been maintaining, and I continue to maintain, that one of the best ways to reduce inflation is to reduce the cost of distribution, to reduce the cost of people getting to work. If the Government would reduce the price of fuel and the crippling motor tax they imposed, this would work down through companies whose overheads would be reduced and, as a result, the cost of delivery would be reduced and the cost of travellers going round the country and various other items would be lower. Frequently we hear comparisons between the cost of items here as opposed to somewhere else in Europe. It is never stated that wage levels are higher in those countries. The price of a television licence here is much higher than it is in Britian. The price of stamps is higher here than in Britain. There is murder going on over there because the price of first class post has gone up to 9p and second class post to 7p, whereas ours is 10p and has been for quite some time.

Insurance companies who have big offices and give a great deal of employment have to heat their offices and pay heavily for the oil. They have to pay their employees more wages to enable them to keep up as best they can with the cost of living. All these things have been generated by direct Government action. The people will indict and have indicted the Government. It is hard to believe that a Government who were in Opposition for so long, and who have been in Government for such a few years, could have lost touch with the people so quickly. I am really astonished. No amount of flag waving by them about the things they have done will change that. Having heard that the recession is over and we are on our way back to recovery, we read last week that one in five of our people is on the poverty line. That is the figure that has come from a very minor survey but many more people are below the poverty line and this includes people in income brackets where nobody would suspect this would be the case. A tribute must be paid to the banks who have kept many people afloat who would otherwise have sunk. I am referring to individuals as well as many business. If it were not for the banks—and I appreciate my own bank manager's kindness to me—many people would not be able to keep going.

As I stated, the estimate of the Bank of Ireland in February was 14 per cent for inflation this year but I am certain they would like to reappraise that figure in view of the many increases that have occurred. I would be glad if some intrepid reporter would see if there is a possibility of getting a statement from the Central Bank to see if they have any reason to review their estimate.

The advertisement by the Minister for Labour which appeared in the newspapers——

The Deputy is going into detail and this is not appropriate.

I want to relate it to the £20 subsidy.

It is not appropriate to this debate. It is more appropriate to a debate on an Estimate.

In the budget there was provision for payment of £20 to an employer in a manufacturing industry to take on an additional worker and there was provision for payment of £10 with regard to taking on school leavers. That is discriminatory and it could put school leavers at a grave disadvantage because, naturally, a manufacturer will opt to take on the person for whom he will get the larger subsidy. It has been argued that the employer will have to pay more wages to the man over 21 years rather than to a younger person but that is not the case. It has also been said that the person aged over 21 has certain skills that the school leaver does not possess but it should be remembered that the latter has worked hard under tremendous pressure to get his examination with good honours. The school leaver is being discriminated against and our party are against that. This has been stated by our spokesman on Labour, Deputy Fitzgerald. It would be interesting to know how much the advertisements I refer to cost per square inch and how many square inches were taken up by the picture of the Minister for Labour.

We have heard a lot about the injection of £50 million into the building industry. Fianna Fáil have said that to get employment going again an injection of £100 million is necessary. We were the first Opposition in the history of the State to put forward concrete proposals and among them was the proposal to inject £100 million into the building industry. The Government made provision for only half of that amount and it is not enough to generate the kind of employment we need. The drop in cement sales was mentioned here last week. That is evidence of the fact that the building industry is in decline. We only know by certain barometers whether an industry is thriving. Cement sales are decreasing and Roadstone have let go 250 men. It must be clear that all is not as well in the building industry as the Government would like us to believe.

I am glad the Parliamentary Secretary is here because when I last spoke on the budget he was present. At that time I referred to the iniquitous way the farmers were being taxed and, knowing I was a city Deputy, he asked me if I was against taxing farmers. I told him I was not, that neither were the farmers themselves against it as long as it was done in an equitable manner.

I asked the Deputy the question not because he was a city Deputy but because I wanted to know the policy of his party on this issue.

Our policy is quite clear and has been stated on many occasions. The interesting thing was that the Government changed part of the system so that instead of having to pay the entire amount in September the farmers were told they could pay it in two parts. That went a long way towards alleviating much of the concern felt by them. City people believe that farmers should pay their fair share of tax and farmers also hold this view. However, everyone expects it to be equitable.

The increases in the budget were granted to sectors that did not use all the money allocated to them. Increases were given to the IDA who fell below what they were expected to do last year. I am not sure of the figure but, for the sake of argument, say they were allocated £20 million of which they spent only £10 million. Therefore, the Government allocated them £30 million this year. Let us say RTE were allocated £3 million and spent that amount. They were given only another £3 million. Our national debt is being repaid at the rate of £800 per minute as Deputy Colley put it very graphically. This money is being spent foolishly. I, like many thousands of people throughout the country, received a most unusual document from the income tax people this year. It was an assessment of income based on an agency which set out income of £500 and a consultancy income of £200, a total of £700 at 35p. I have not had those agencies for years. I went into the inspector of taxes and asked him what this was. He told me not to mind that, that it was a mistake. I told him I was a full-time politician for many years and I gave up those agencies long ago. The implication behind this was that people who were chancing their arms and not declaring their income would pay. The Government would be better employed if they spent more time—I know the Parliamentary Secretary will agree with me—chasing the chancers who are collecting dole and working in small industries.

I expect to receive 38 names from a man in a small industry in Dublin who is trying to stay open against competition from other people in small industries who are employing people who collect the dole. The owners of those industries are only paying those people small wages and are not stamping their cards. This man is in consultation with another man in a similar small industry who can also produce names. I have told him that as soon as he can produce those names I will be very happy to bring him into the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Social Welfare so that he can lay the names on his desk.

The Government should come down heavily on those people. There is nothing that incenses people who pay taxes as much as people who draw the dole and work in very good jobs as well on the QT. People in this country are very reluctant to tell on those people but it is getting to the stage now where the message is coming through. The Government should have more inspectors going around to small factories and places of business asking to see the cards of the people employed in them. They could get a small group of people to go into those factories as ordinary employees and they would see what is going on.

People are taxed to the hilt and there is no incentive to work any more. When people work they pay most of their wages in taxes. They pay sufficient money in what is deducted from their wages in income tax but they also pay on their relaxation and their motor cars. When the Minister for Local Government was in Opposition he was very fond of talking about the small man in the country who drives a car. He does not talk about him now. The price of motor cars in this country is an absolute disgrace in comparison with other countries. Motoring is dearer in this country than anywhere in the world.

We had a recent increase of 16 per cent in the price of butane gas. I no longer hear an outcry when the latest price increases are announced by the Government on the recommendation of the Prices Commission. Those people have to work within the rules laid down. They make recommendations and it is up to the Government to sanction them. It might be an idea to put down a question now asking how many applications for price increases are at present before the Minister for Industry and Commerce. I am quite sure that the figure is staggering. Perhaps we will have a general election sooner than I think. Life is getting very hard. Deputy Brennan spoke about the sixth budget but that is just a laugh because every week we have a mini-budget.

The Minister referring to the cost of the public service said:

Taking our whole period of Government it will be seen that the various tax changes which we have made form a logical pattern whose objective is to obtain a fair contribution from all classes in society to the cost of running the State while, at the same time, providing the maximum encouragement for enterprise. We pledge ourselves to maintain this objective.

I am in favour of public servants being well paid. We want to get the best of our young people into the public service. The public service should pay as well if not better than industry. We can only afford a good public service if we have the people who produce the wherewithal to pay for that public service. I have no ambition to drive a Rolls Royce. If I wanted to drive one, I would have to earn the money to drive it. It is the same with the public service. If we want a first-class public service, it has to be earned. The only way that can be done is by creating the employment and the incentives.

We have a private enterprise economy. Private enterprise is the backbone of our well-being Despite what the great economists like Deputy Halligan have to say about this, he now agrees with the marriage between private enterprise and the public service. We agree that State enterprises are good but they must be examined at certain intervals to see if they are still serving the purpose for which they were originally set up. We must encourage small business people to develop and increase.

Last week I suggested that the IDA should consult with youth organisations and bring recommendations to the Minister, that they should allow the youth organisations to introduce small grant-aided schemes. Youth organisations do not have the capital to start those schemes. It would be well worth following this up. One could say cynically that it suits us, now that we are in Opposition, to have more people unemployed but we are not like that. We are a very constructive Opposition. We are much more constructive than the Government when they were in Opposition. That is easily understandable because they did not have the experience of Government we had. People were a little taken aback by the quietness of this Opposition as compared with the others. I am sure after the next election we will have a much more responsible Opposition from what will then become again the Fine Gael and Labour parties.

The Minister tells us that our economic position is very relevant to this debate and he went on to say that:

Statistical data which has become available since budget time confirm that the momentum of economic recovery is improving.

He said that the latest surveys from the CII and the ESRI show an expectation of continuing growth. I would not regard the use of the word "expectation" there as being an indication even of optimism. Perhaps, however, there are no longer such expectations having regard to the increases which have been permitted since budget day. In referring to the question of solving our problems the Minister said that we would have to implement uniquely Irish solutions. I agree entirely. We should explore this possibility by consulting in the first place with the various youth organisations in an effort to ascertain the best ways of creating employment for our young people. These organisations have premises that are vacant during the day but each of which could be used to train two or three young people in the various skills and crafts.

Referring to section 7 of the Finance Bill the Minister said, in relation to tax allowances and with particular reference to those in receipt of pensions, that the levels at which the limits are fixed will also allow many pensioners to have some amount of other income without attracting a tax liability. Under successive Fianna Fáil governments we always looked forward at budget time to hearing of the number of people who, as a result of the measures being taken, were being put outside the tax net. There is nothing in the budget this year to give us that information. Only the other day I had the case of a school warden, that is, a lollipop man as these people are known, whose income from that activity amounts to about £630 per year and who was also in receipt of a contributory old age pension. His tax assessment for the year was about £93. I have sent a communication to the income tax office to the effect that there must be a misunderstanding as this liability would seem to be very harsh in the circumstances. It is wrong to take tax from an old age pensioner who wishes to be occupied for a few hours each day.

I have dealt with most of the points that were concerning me but I would have liked the Minister to have been here to hear my comment on the lack of finance for the Garda, a matter that has been referred to repeatedly in this House. In my constituency which happens also to be the Minister's constituency, there is a meeting arranged for Thursday next at 8 p.m. The Minister is invited to attend but I shall be surprised if he is there to face the public.

This is not relevant to the Bill.

No doubt, though, he will be spending a few bob a couple of Sundays later when he is expected to arrive by State car to attend a community festival, an event that is not controversial. However, when it is a matter of facing the public on various issues, there has been too much running away.

I should be surprised that the Minister would run away.

Perhaps the Parliamentary Secretary would convey to the Minister the message that at least 300 people will be waiting for him on Thursday night.

The Deputy is going outside the scope of the Bill.

I am sure the Minister is well able to look after his own constituency.

It is not my task to help him to maintain his stake in politics. The Government should not be lulled by the silence of the people. They are very angry and are only biding their time.

This Bill may be the last Finance Bill to be introduced by this Government. Indeed, it might be regarded as their last will and testament in that the legacy they are leaving is one of a sense of frustration and of a lack of confidence in the whole democratic structure. The Chair will have noted that I am the third successive speaker from this side. We can only assume that even the people on the Government side realise how farcical it is to be endeavouring to discuss this Bill with any element of the type of solemnity that was given in the past to the discussion of such measures. Of course, those were the times when we had one budget and one Finance Bill annually but that day has gone because at intervals we are subjected to instant budgets to deal with specific items. For instance, we had the measures which allowed the Minister increase petrol prices by 35p a gallon while the Minister for Posts and Telegraphs was allowed to increase postal charges. These increases were in addition to the many price increases recommended by the National Prices Commission. In saying that, I am not being critical of the commission who are trying to carry out their task as best they can but like King Canute trying to turn back the waves, they cannot effect the impossible. While inflation is rampant, there are bound to be price increases. In such circumstances can people be blamed for becoming cynical about the whole working of democracy?

There is a kind of funereal atmosphere about the House. The commentators may say that this is due to the impending election. Any politician will be conscious of a forthcoming election; otherwise, he would not be in politics. However, there is more than that involved. It is a case of the people losing faith in a Government that have failed miserably in relation to the control of prices. The Minister boasts that this year's budget did not impose any extra direct taxation. Of course, he forgets about VAT on all sorts of items and, when one takes the price increases and pays VAT at 6¾ per cent or 12 per cent, naturally one has to pay more percentagewise on the higher prices.

The Minister has increased indirect taxation and people are aware of that. When he comes to reply will he tell us if he can hold out any hope for the householder and the married couple with children that prices will be kept to some norm of sanity? At the moment price increases are insane. This Finance Bill will benefit the single person at the expense of the married and the higher income groups at the expense of the lower income group. Despite what the Minister says about pensioners, they will be taxed on their old age pensions if they have another pension from their employment. One can imagine what a nightmare it must be for pensioners facing the prospect of having to pay tax.

This Finance Bill is not even marking time until the election because since the budget any benefits in the budget have been eroded by the ever-spiralling inflation. I agree with the Taoiseach that we may import some inflation but we create more of it ourselves. It is very easy to blame imported inflation but we cannot excuse the Government in the realm of price inflation and unemployment. The Minister said that next year unemployment will have fallen to below 100,000. Good heavens, what a prospect for a country of a little over 3,000,000 people. The Minister spoke of the figure dropping below 100,000 with a kind of sense of achievement. Apparently he thinks that below that figure all will be well for the economy and the national well being.

This perverted thinking is one of the reasons why this Government have failed so badly. They have not yet realised what it means for a man to be unemployed with no hope of a job. There are people who left school four years ago in the first year of the Coalition Government and they have not yet succeeded in getting jobs. These people will inevitably drift and become unemployed ultimately. During the 1930s in England George Orwell wrote The Road to Wigan Pier in which he described England at that time without hope and the disillusionment in English homes. We are reaching a similar state here. Most people want to work. Those who abuse the dole system are a minority. The vast majority who are unemployed would jump at the chance of gainful employment. Apparently the Government think that a figure of something under 100,000 unemployed is not an unhealthy situation. If we are going to retain our democratic state, the Government must elevate their thinking and up their sights towards the creation of a society where we will be able to guarantee to our people a living in their own land. This instrument will not achieve that. It will, in fact, do the very opposite.

The Minister may boast that things are improving. He may wait Micawber-like hoping something will turn up like the conference of the eight nations last week. That is not good enough. One can point to West Germany as a country that has done great things and has a very low unemployment rate. There the people realised that hard work was part of the recipe for prosperity. It is very hard for us to tell people here they must work harder when they see their brothers and sisters unemployed. The unemployed cannot work harder because they have nothing to work harder at. If the Government are really serious and if this great marriage between the socialist philosophy of the Labour Party and the capitalist-free enterprise philosophy of the Fine Gael Party has been so successful, then we should see much greater progress. My belief is that they are still arguing over alleged ideals, like the State development authority, on which the Labour Party puts such great stress but on which the Taoiseach, the head of the Government, is not so very keen. The creation of such a development authority may sound well in an election manifesto but I can tell the Minister that people are very cynical about it because they recall the 14 points issued at the time of the last general election.

Debate adjourned.
Business suspended at 1.30 p.m. and resumed at 2.30 p.m.
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