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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 4 Mar 1981

Vol. 327 No. 5

Financial Resolutions, 1981. - Financial Resolution No. 9: General (Resumed).

Debate resumed on the following motion:
That it is expedient to amend the law, relating to customs and inland revenue (including excise) and to make further provision in connection with finance.
—(The Taoiseach).

An tseachtain seo caite bhíos ag trácht ar an gcáin fhaisnéis agus bhiós ag caint faoí cothú fostaoíchta, agus é mar bhun-aidhm an Rialtais. Thagair mé do dhían-ghá bunstructúr feidhmeach chumarsáide a bheith ar fáil ionnas go mbeadh fáilte níos fearr roimh earraí Ghaelacha i gcéin agus i gcónar.

When speaking on the budget the last day I mentioned that the creation of jobs and the safeguarding of existing jobs was one of the principle strategies of the budget. I referred to the necessity for an adequate infrastructure so as to reduce the cost and sharpen the competiteveness of our goods on export markets. I welcomed the £1,732.6 million outlined in the investment plan with particular reference to £220 million for telecommunications and £90 million for transport. Top class facilities and structures must augment the opportunities presented by world economic activity and recovery.

In industrial relations areas of dispute must be sorted out promptly and the effects of a breakdown on the community must be solemnly impressed on the protagonists involved in the dispute. Group, union, association or employer solidarity is laudable but we must recognise that we are an integral part of a greater community in industrial relations matters. The Irish proverb — i scáth a gcéile a mhaireann na ndaoine — is all the more apt now by virtue of our mutual interdependance at national and international level. We all know the impact which industrial disputes have in relation to safeguarding and creating jobs. I accept the valuable contributions made by the social partners in employment opportunities and social progress, but the time has come when leaders in our community and individual workers must bind together, identify the troublemakers and take steps accordingly.

The other objectives in the budget are to improve living standards for the less well-off, to provide further relief for PAYE taxpayers and to help the farming community, who have been going through a difficult time. The package of £35 million for the farming community, by virtue of the suspension of the disease levy, full rates relief being extended to holdings under £50 valuation and the 50 per cent relief for valuations in the £50 to £70 bracket, are worthy of mention and indicate the concern of the Government. There is also a £60 million concession to PAYE taxpayers and a widening of the 35 per cent band. Now 37,000 people have been taken out of the tax net. The increases of 25 per cent and 20 per cent in social welfare benefits are welcomed. I am also pleased to note that the free telephone rental scheme has now been extended to holders of UK pensions. Many Deputies including myself have been lobbying for this over the years.

This budget affords a considerable amount of money to housing, schools and hospitals and it is gratifying to see in Bray the commencement of a £2 million second level school, which is badly needed. Road grants of £1.657 million have come to the county recently, an increase of 42 per cent on the previous year. Also £1.56 million has been made available to Wicklow Urban Council in loan facilities for the commencement of 58 local authority houses in that town. I cannot understand why one of the other Wicklow Deputies cribbed last Thursday about the non-availability of this money when the notice had already gone out to the council.

I am also pleased that the necessary water filtration system for Arklow is being financed.

In relation to the second level school in Bray, the record shows that when the National Coalition Government were in power they planned this school for 1986 but when the present Minister for Education came to office he took heed of the representations made by community leaders and individuals who knew the acute difficulties that would arise in school places at second level and he took steps accordingly. The news is to be welcomed.

The central and crucial failure of the Government is their inability to devise and implement an incomes policy. They are unable to get agreement from the social partners to a realistic incomes policy because they have no medium-term plan for the economy. They are not able to indicate to the social partners what could be achieved in the future if restraint is practised at present.

The Government ask other people to plan. For example, they ask farmers to have a plan for their farm in order to qualify for the farm modernisation scheme. However, the Government have no plan for the economy or for public finances over which they have direct control. Hence they can offer no genuine confidence of gains in the future in return for restraint at present by the trade union movement and others seeking increases in incomes. As a result the Government stagger from one expedient to the next in their relations with the trade union movement. The failure to achieve a policy which would bring the level of wage and salary increases here down to the level obtaining in other EMS countries is at the root of all our economic problems.

It is not oil which is the main reason for our high inflation rate. There are many other countries, such as Luxembourg, which import 100 per cent of their energy whereas we import only 80 per cent. Yet Luxembourg has an inflation rate which is one-third of ours. We cannot blame increases in oil for our inflation rate. The cause of our inflation is to be found in our own country, in the Government's failure to exercise the political leadership necessary to set a plan before the people and get agreement from them and particularly the social partners for a realistic incomes policy which would bring income increases in nominal terms down to what is realistic, based on increased production.

Inflation is responsible for all our major economic problems and I will identify four main economic problems which can be traced to the fact that we have an inflation rate which is twice or three times the average inflation rate obtaining in other EMS countries with whose currencies we are linked. First of all, despite the best efforts of the IDA, we are losing thousands of jobs each year in older, well-established industries simply because those industries cannot compete with the products of other countries whose rate of increase in costs is less than ours. In other words, unemployment is caused by our high inflation rate. Secondly, the drastic 50 per cent drop in income and living standards of farmers is traceable to our high inflation rate because the costs which farmers must pay for what they need to produce the goods is going up at twice or three times the rate of the prices they receive for what they produce from the EEC. Thirdly, the high interest rates which are crippling business at present and the credit restrictions recently introduced by the Central Bank are due to the high inflation rate and are making investment difficult. We can only keep parity within the EMS and keep our currency on a par with other currencies in the system by using tight monetary policy as a means of compensating for our failure to exercise any real control in the area of increases in nominal income. Those seeking funds to invest are being asked to pay the costs of the Government's failure to get a realistic incomes policy. They are being asked to bear the entire burden of maintaining the parity of our currency against others. Fourthly, the fact that our public finances are completely out of control and that the Government are not able to manage their financial affairs is directly attributable to our high rate of inflation. These have been due to high increases in public sector pay. So called special pay increases are to blame for the fact that we have had substantial current budget deficits in the last few years and have had dramatic increased in our foreign debt. These are attributable to the Government's failure to hold any sane line as far as public sector pay is concerned. That is an extension of the Government's failure in general to get control of inflation in the economy.

Our four main economic problems — growing unemployment, agricultural depression, high interest rates and the chronic weakness of our public finances — are due to our high inflation rate which, in turn, is chiefly caused by the Government's failure to exercise the leadership necessary to achieve a sensible incomes policy related to our economic position. The result has been diminished economic independence. It is ironic that this country, which was founded on a philosophy of sinn féin, of self-reliance, is now more so than practically any other country in Europe economically dependent because of our failure to manage our finances and achieve an incomes policy. We owe more abroad than any other country in Europe. We are living further beyond our means than any other country and this as a country founded on the philosophy of self-reliance. It is ironic that the Government, who include economic self-reliance among their aims and which is included on the membership card issued to all members, are the party responsible for doing more to make us economically dependent on foreign bankers than any other party who ever held office. The more we owe to foreign banks the more we must tailor our policies to the needs and demands of the foreign banks who are lending us money. The more we owe the more interest we must pay and the less will be left over for independent initiatives by the Government, whether job creation or whatever in the future.

At present almost three-quarters of the amount collected by the Government in PAYE has to go directly towards servicing the national debt. That means we do not have the economic freedom to take initiatives because so much of the Government's revenue next year and the year after is already committed to paying off the debts of the past. We have a debt which is equivalent to 106 per cent of everything we produce in an entire year.

Whether they be public servants or private individuals, farmers, industrialists or workers, the Government owe 106 per cent of everything everyone produces in this country in a year. One half of that national debt will have to be repaid within the next five years. That is the extent to which our economic freedom has been circumscribed by the failures of past economic policies. Failures in past economic policies and, in particular, failure in the area of control of public expenditure, are due to our failure to get an incomes policy and to have a realistic approach to increases in wages and salaries within the public sector and in the economy as a whole.

As I have said, in the next five years one half of our national debt will have to be repaid. People who are working at the moment should not think that does not matter to them. The Government's ability to provide pensions in the future for the workers of today, who are enjoying some of these artificial increases in salary which are not related to true increases in production — as a result of the Government having had budget deficits and substantial increases in debt — is being diminished by feckless financial policies.

The Government's ability, by the use of incentives and grants and other means, to provide the conditions in which jobs can be created for the young people in our primary and secondary schools who will be looking for jobs in the next ten to 15 years is being drastically circumscribed by the huge debts which are being incurred at present simply because the Government have no policy on inflation and on incomes and, as a result, are living far beyond their means. Perhaps I should illustrate what I am saying about the seriousness of the situation with which we are faced by quoting some figures.

I want to refer to increases in nominal incomes because very often they do not mean much of an increase in actual spending power because inflation goes up to compensate for increases achieved in incomes. It is like a dog trying to catch his tail. No matter how fast he goes, he never quite catches it. In the past two years alone nominal paper incomes went up in Luxembourg by 14 per cent; in the Netherlands by 11 per cent; in France by 27 per cent; in Germany by 12.3 per cent; in Belgium by 13 per cent; and in Ireland by 38 per cent. There is only one country in the EMS which had a faster increase in nominal incomes in those two years than we had and that is Italy which achieved the dubious distinction of having an increase of 40 per cent. I stress that I am referring to nominal paper incomes. With all due respect, I do not think we would wish to emulate Italy in that matter.

The Government were solemnly warned on this subject by the National Economic and Social Council, who were set up specifically to give warnings on this type of issue. In their report published in November of last year, I think, on the economic situation between now and 1983, the NESC said that between 1975 and 1979 the increase in Irish unit wage costs in national currency terms was substantially higher than in any of the principal competitive countries which together account for 75 per cent of Irish trade except Italy and the United Kingdom.

The Government failed to achieve an incomes policy and to create a sense of confidence in the future in which workers and others who are now demanding increases in incomes would be prepared to say: "No, we will not seek more than we believe the country can afford this year because we know the economy is being sufficiently well-managed that, if we wait until next year or the year after, that money will not be wasted on some one else but will be there to be enjoyed in the future by ourselves and our children whether it be in the form of pensions or jobs for our children." Because the Government are unable to create this sense of confidence in the future, they are unable to get the restraint necessary. They are unable to create a sense of confidence in the future because they have no confidence in the future themselves. They have shown repeatedly an inability to make up their minds about any matter and stick to the decision they have made.

I will give two classic examples of the Government's indecision and inability to give leadership. First we had the spectacle of the Taoiseach's broadcast in January 1980. He went on television to tell us that we must tighten our belts. Most people responded to that broadcast and believed the Government and particularly the Taoiseach meant what they said and intended to exercise restraint on public spending in a constructive way in order to provide a secure future for our people.

What happened? Almost within a month that broadcast was followed by a highly inflationary and extravagant budget. It was followed later in the year by Government intervention in the national understanding discussions, not in the interest of obtaining restraint, but in order to persuade the employers to pay more than they felt they or the economy could afford. Far from the Government intervening with a view to getting restraint and getting inflation under control, after the Taoiseach's broadcast the two major initiatives by the Government, the budget and their intervention in the national understanding discussions, went precisely in the opposite direction to the oratory of the Taoiseach.

That undermines public confidence in the meaning of words uttered by politicians. Some people may say politicians and their words do not really matter to the economy. I believe they do. There is no other body to give economic leadership apart from the political leaders. If the political leaders seem to be unable to stick by their words, the public feel they are not getting the leadership they require.

Consistently the Government got their sums wrong about increases in the cost of the public sector. I said already that I believe the failure to achieve an incomes policy is at the root of the problems we are facing in our public finances at the moment. I shall illustrate this. Taking the years 1978 to 1980 combined, the total amount by which the Government under-estimated in their budgets the actual increases which occurred in public sector pay was £213 million. That is a lot of money to get wrong.

The share of the total amount of Government spending which is now being absorbed, not in services for the public but in paying people who are keeping the Government's machine going, has gone up from just over 30 per cent of total Government expenditure in 1970 to almost 40 per cent in 1980. On present trends, by 1990 half of total Government spending will be absorbed solely in pay and pensions.

The most alarming feature of this entire exercise is the fact that (1) it is unplanned — I have already mentioned the £200 million excess increases which occurred in the past three years over what the Government had planned — and (2) the extent to which these increases are outside the national understanding.

In 1980 the total increase in the public sector pay bill amounted to approximately £300 million. Of that, £151 million was due to the national wage agreement. No one would object to the Government paying the terms of the national wage agreement, even though beforehand it was agreed it was excessive. However, a further £150 million of the increase in the cost of public sector pay in 1980 was due to special pay increases over and above the national understanding terms. As much extra money was due to special or anomaly pay increases as to the basic increases under the national understanding. This was in a year when practically no other employer competing to sell his goods — it was different for the oil companies who have a captive market, who can dictate any price they like and consequently can pay any price they like for labour — was able to meet the basic terms of the national understanding, let alone to give special pay increases.

Lest it be thought that all these special pay increases went to the civil service, whom everybody likes to give out to from time to time, only 12 per cent went to the civil service. A figure of £97 million went solely to employees in the health services. It is people in subsidiary bodies not under the direct control of the Government who have been receiving the largest proportion of special pay increases.

I said earlier that Government finances here are more out of control than in any other country in Europe, and I will illustrate that with some figures. The budget deficit, the figure by which the Government spent more on current items than they took in in 1980, was 6½ per cent of all money spent. In Luxembourg they had a budget surplus of 6 per cent. In France they had a budget deficit of only 1 per cent, in Belgium, 2½ per cent, and in the UK, a country which everybody likes to say is very badly managed, the budget deficit was only half of 1 per cent. This illustrates the extent to which, in comparable international terms, our finances are being mismanaged.

Many of the people who talk blithely about withdrawing from the EEC, the EEC being a bad deal, do not realise how much the Government rely for their day-to-day expenses on money they get from the EEC. Ten per cent of every £1 spent by the Government comes from the EEC. If we were not members of the EEC our budget deficit would be approximately twice its present level. In 1974 only 4.6 per cent of the amount being spent by the Government here came from the EEC. This means that the Government are more reliant on the EEC than it is healthy for us to be.

What is extremely worrying is the extent to which in the last two or three years we have come to rely more and more on borrowing money abroad rather than at home to finance Government deficits. In 1977, 37 per cent of all public sector borrowing was financed by borrowing abroad. In 1980, 60 per cent, almost twice as much, of public sector borrowing was in the form of foreign loans. This has two consequences which should be identified. If the Government are borrowing at home it does not increase the total money supply in the economy, because it is getting money in the form of loans from one sector and rather than have savers spending the money themselves the Government spend it for them. Therefore the total amount of money in the economy is not being increased and therefore currency inflation is not being increased.

However, when the Government borrow abroad they bring in new additional money to the economy, and more cash is chasing the same amount of goods; whereas as a result of domestic Government borrowing the same amount of cash is chasing the same amount of goods, the only difference being that the Government are spending the money rather than somebody else. By foreign borrowing the Government are helping to fuel the fire of inflation and adding to other failures in inflation control. Secondly, and particularly important, the Government are creating a situation in which we are not any longer in control of the rate at which our own currency is bought and sold.

As a result of excessive reliance on foreign borrowing by the present Government, if we were to decide it might be in our interest to devalue our currency — I do not believe it is, but it is an option that should be open to us — we are restricting our freedom to do so. If we borrow abroad on the scale we are now engaged in, we are closing off that option because any attempt to devalue while we owe substantial money abroad will mean we will have to repay more money than we borrowed because those who have lent us money abroad will demand repayment in their currencies rather than in ours; if we owe them £100 and we devalue our currency by 10 per cent we will have to pay our creditors £110. As a result, a combination of high inflation on the one hand, which is pushing us towards devaluation, and high foreign borrowing, which is making devaluation impossible, is forcing us into a corner and potentially forcing us over the precipice.

I do not believe the Government realise how serious is the situation into which they have got the country. I do not believe the Government realise how much the irresponsible management of our finances is making the achievement of a united Ireland impossible. Our national debt per head of the population in the Twenty-six Counties is almost six times that of the national debt per head of population in Northern Ireland. If we are to have a united Ireland are we going to ask them to take over our debts? Is an economy that owes six times as much as their economy per head of population to foreign and domestic creditors going to be an economically attractive promised land for the people of Northern Ireland who would want to join us and take a share of our debts? I believe we cannot have a united Ireland until we get our finances under control. Only then will we have the economic viability to go forward and offer those people an attractive and economic proposition to make up for whatever other sacrifices of a political or constitutional nature they may have to make. At the moment we have nothing to offer. The economy of the Twenty-six Counties has not produced sufficient jobs in the past ten years to provide for its young people. Unless we can do much better in the management of our economy we will not have anything to offer the people whom we want to join us in a common endeavour on this island.

Inflation is at the root of our problems. We cannot provide jobs for young people unless we get inflation under control. We should think in terms of tasks not problems: the solving of problems inspires very few people but the fulfilling of a task can inspire the public to do something they would not want to do otherwise. Our greatest task is to provide jobs for our young people but we will not be able to do that unless we get inflation under control on the basis of a sensible incomes policy.

Our past performance with regard to the creation of jobs is not good enough. For instance, our GNP has grown by 15 per cent in real terms. In the same period the number of people employed has increased by only 2 per cent. All the increases in the wealth of the country have gone to a smaller number of people who are employed and the rest have been left outside. In the meantime the number of people depending on the few employed has almost doubled proportionately. This is something people may not realise. The number of children and old people depending on those at work has almost doubled in the past 20 years. Yet, during that period we have not created enough jobs in any one year which all the independent commentators tell us we will have to create every year for the next ten years if we are to provide jobs for our young people. In this connection we are talking about children now in our schools. It is not airy-fairy talk about children who may be born in the future. All of the young people for whom we will have to provide jobs in the next 20 years are alive today. They can be counted, they are in our schools. Yet we have not in any year created enough jobs. That is the seriousness of the task facing us.

I shall illustrate the point I am making by referring to statistics. Mr. Kieran Kennedy and Mr. Foley carried out a study that was published by the ESRI in 1978 and they showed that to create full employment by 1986 we would have to create jobs in manufacturing at a net rate of increase of 10,000 jobs a year. In the period 1953-76 we created jobs at the rate of only 1,500 per year. In 1980 there was an increase of approximately 5,000 in manufacturing but at no time have we come even half-way towards achieving the rate of increase in manufacturing employment which has been independently identified as necessary to provide jobs for our people. We will not do it until we make our country competitive, by getting our inflation rate down to that of the other EMS countries. No matter how much the IDA spend, all of their good work is and will be negated by job losses in existing industry. This is happening because our inflation rate is too high. We cannot solve our employment problem until we do something about our inflation rate. We should realise the future consequences for this country of present trends of failure to provide employment for young people. In this connection I would identify some major consequences of likely trends in unemployment.

First, there will be a much more severe incidence of family poverty. It has been identified that there is a close correlation between severe deprivation and long-term unemployment. Secondly, we will have a much higher level of taxation to support a greater number of people out of work. This level of taxation will be even higher than what we know we will have to bear as a result of having to pay our existing debts. Thirdly, innovation which is essential to economic progress will become all the more difficult because trade unions naturally will resist any change in the manufacturing sector that might jeopardise jobs. They will be totally concerned with protecting existing jobs because they know that if people lose jobs there will be nothing for them. Innovation which requires a buoyant economy, which requires a situation to exist that if a person leaves a job he knows he will get a job elsewhere, will be stifled by a higher rate of unemployment.

The fourth major consequence is that there will be political tension between the few in employment and the many unemployed. This will become more acute and will become something that could destabilise our entire political system. Prolonged experience of unemployment will destroy self-confidence and the self-discipline of a large portion of the population and will sap our entire national morale. Finally, quite possibly we will face the prospect of a dramatic increase in emigration.

These are the prospects that are staring us in the face but the Government do not have a policy to meet them. They are staggering from one expedient to another. They have no idea where they are going. They have abandoned the feeble efforts that were made by the then Minister for Economic Planning and Development, Deputy O'Donoghue. He did not produce economic plans but rather produced papers that discussed options and discussed what the Government proposed to do in the following year, but even those feeble efforts have been abandoned by this Government. There is no plan for the future in the face of an extremely difficult situation. If any household saw that it had as severe a problem in its family budgeting as this State has, it would take far more effective measures to tackle the problem than have this elected Government.

We must recognise that the problem we face is basically a political one. Only politicians have the mandate to get people to look to their future and to see that the present irresponsible trends in our economy are brought to an end. The only sensible purpose the Government have is their anxiety to win the next election. Does anybody bother to ask what Fianna Fáil would do with power if they got it after the next election? Do they have an idea what they would do for the next five years if they were re-elected? They have no idea what they would do if they were re-elected after the next election. I believe if they are re-elected after the next election they will be even worse than they are at the moment because now they have some sense of purpose, that of winning the next election. If they were to win the next election that meagre sense of direction would be gone and they would not have a unified aim.

I would like to say what I believe must be done and what my Party, if given the opportunity to do so, would do to deal with the very serious problems we face. I believe we must have a five year economic plan. If I were to direct any criticism at the National Coalition Government it would be that they did not have an economic plan. That is the most serious mistake that was made because the National Coalition were not able to offer a clear direction to the people in regard to where they were going and where the sacrifices which were being made were leading in terms of improvements.

The next Fine Gael Government will have to have an economic plan setting out over a five year period what can be achieved as a result of measures taken this year. That plan must have three aims. The first aim must be to reassert our economic independence by reducing our dependence on foreign debt and over a clearly defined period eliminating our current budget deficit. The NESC have recommended that the Government should set a three year target for the elimination of the budget deficit. I believe that would be too severe. I feel the aim should be to eliminate the deficit over a five year period.

I also believe we must eliminate our net foreign debt, that is the extent to which the amount we owe abroad exceeds our external reserves. In 1977 our net foreign debt was only £170 million, in 1980 it was £1,600 million and it is estimated that at the end of 1981 our net foreign debt could rise to somewhere in the region of £2,250 million as against £170 million in 1977.

The second aim of that plan must be to bring our rate of inflation down to below the average rate of inflation in the other EMS countries. The third aim must be to double the rate of growth in manufacturing employment because only by doing that can we obtain sufficient jobs for the young people we know will be looking for them.

How does one achieve an incomes policy? The first requirement is for the Government to set an example in respect of pay within the public service. There is one clear statement which the Government must make. I refer to the reservations entered by the Irish Congress of Trade Unions in the paper, "Economic and Social Policy 1980 to 1983, Aims and Recommendations". That paper said that the Government should say, in certain circumstances, that they are not able to pay any more. The Irish Congress of Trade Unions said that they rejected the suggestion that pay increases in the public sector should be based on the Government's capacity to pay. One could swear that the Government were paying the money out of their own pockets. They are collecting that money from the taxpayers. The Irish Congress of Trade Unions are in fact saying that there should be no limit to the taxpayers' ability to pay up, notwithstanding the fact that the bulk of congress members are the very taxpayers the congress are saying have no limit to their ability to pay for increases in public sector pay. Could any proposition be more ludicrous?

The Government must take a firm line on increases in public sector pay and they must relate those clearly to actual increases in production in our economy. There is a need to set up an independent unit, which would estimate in each year the extent to which we can afford increases in pay. At the moment estimates of this sort are being made by bodies who can be accused of special pleading. It is suspected that employers or the Government make unduly pessismistic estimates of what we can afford to pay in terms of increased wages in the following year. We need an independent body which would identify a year ahead, on the basis of existing trends, what we can afford to pay. I believe that must be positively stated so that everyone would realise the limits within which our economy must operate.

Secondly, we must reform the budget procedure in the Dáil. The experience has been that in the second half of every year we have an avalanche of Supplementary Estimates adding on more expenditure on top of the expenditure which was solemnly agreed as being the limits to which expenditure would move in the Estimates and budget debates which had taken place only a few months previously. The Dáil after making that solemn decision is faced with an avalanche of Supplementary Estimates saying: "It was not enough, we want more." This is an example of total lack of planning of public finances. The worst aspect of it is that those Supplementary Estimates are predominantly required for increases in the public sector pay and invariably they are paid for by borrowing rather than by taxation. The first requirement for getting sanity back into Government negotiations is for them to make a clear statement, and to have that written into law, that Supplementary Estimates will have to be paid for by supplementary taxation and that they cannot be paid for by borrowing. That is the only way we will restore discipline into budgets. Budgets have ceased to mean anything over the last five to ten years.

Thirdly, we must discuss a budget in a proper fashion when it really matters. I do not know how many hours we have been debating this but I safely say that we have discussed it for approximately seven days. In my opinion they were seven totally wasted days because not one single word uttered by any speaker on this side or the Government side will have the slightest effect on a comma or full stop in the budget. We are being brought in simply to give out a large quota of hot air without the slightest hope of influencing in the least anything the Government are doing.

The proper way is to introduce the budget in September before the year it applies to and not in January as something which cannot be changed. The Estimates and Government proposals should be discussed here in the autumn session before any firm and final decisions are taken and before the Government are committed to certain circumstances. In that situation, if a Member suggests that a certain tax is too high or a particular expenditure is too high, it would be possible to make adjustments to reduce both. That could make some difference because the year would not have begun and there would be scope for the Government to take account of what Deputies were saying. At present anything we say will not make the slightest difference because the Government have made up their minds and will not change irrespective of what is said. However, they will introduce Supplementary Estimates because they will find that, without having the slightest control over the matter, expenditure will have gone through the roof.

If we had such a debate on the budget here, as is held in almost all countries, we could get people to see that there is a direct connection between the high rate of taxation, the high rate of public sector pay and the high demands for various other kinds of expenditure. People would begin to be responsible and realise that budget deficits have to be paid for in the form of increased taxation. We as politicians could begin to give the type of lead we should be giving to our people. The House is so unreformed that it is incapable of giving a lead to anybody. If we could reform the Dáil, and in particular the way we deal with the budget here, we could give economic leadership in a way we have never done in the past. It is no accident that, in practically every other country in Europe where their finances are properly managed and where there is no significant budget deficit, the budget is discussed in advance of the year to which it applies. People are able to see the cost of the Exchequer demands in terms of actual increases in taxation.

We should consider introducing what is known as the structural budget system which operates in Holland where an independent agency states whether or not the Government's target for public expenditure is realistic. The Government have introduced Estimates which I believed to be significantly fraudulent in that they simply under-provide for items in a way which is irresponsible. The Government know that they will be proved to be irresponsible because the money will have to be provided on a scale that it is not provided for at present. We will have that avalanche of Supplementary Estimates. Yet we will be asked to go through the charade over the next three or four months, if we are still here, of debating these Estimates, even though we all know in our hearts that they do not mean anything because they will be invalidated by Supplementary Estimates a few months later. That should not happen. There should be an independent agency, like the Comptroller and Auditor General which, instead of looking at Estimates after they have been spent to see if the money has been misappropriated, would look at the Estimates when they are published and say that they believe that, given the assumptions upon which Government policy is working, the Estimates are realistic or unrealistic. We need a Comptroller and Auditor General who will look at Government expenditure before, as well as after, it takes place. In that way we could have meaningful discussions about Government expenditure because we would know that the figures we are discussing are genuine. They are not genuine at present.

There is no proper control of the training of manpower in the economy. We have the various education institutions producing all sorts of graduates for whom there are no jobs and, at the same time, despite our large unemployment we have substantial shortfalls such as insufficient computer programmers, a shortage of engineers and people with all sorts of skills. We need a manpower training authority which would, in the manner of the National Science Council, co-ordinate the entire range of Government spending on manpower training, whether it be by the Department of Labour, Agriculture or Education, to see that the money is being spent in a way that meets the perceived and real needs for labour in our economy. At present there is no unitary control of the expenditure on universities, schools and AnCO. They are all going willy-nilly. If they happen to come out right in the end, it is good luck; and, if they do not, it is bad luck. There should be clear control of Government expenditure on manpower training so that it relates to the jobs that are available in the economy.

A lot of arguments have been made against my call for a firm approach to incomes policy and a new approach to the national understanding which would relate increases in income to real increases in production in the economy. What about firms doing exceptionally well which should be able to reward their employees by giving them more than the national average increase in wages? What can be done about that situation? One of the main reasons why national understandings failed in the past was because employers were unable to reward workers who were making an effort. As a result, a pile of anomaly claims built up and the whole thing went up in smoke. Across the whole range of industry we need to introduce a scheme of profit-sharing and there should be tax incentive schemes for firms who introduce profit sharing. Those profit-sharing schemes should be excluded from the national understanding. If a firm has a real substantial increase in its profits above a certain norm it should be able to pay an increased amount in the form of a profit-share to its employees over and above the national understanding. Those schemes should be audited and examined centrally and be given a tax incentive to get them started. If we had a national scheme to encourage profit-sharing in industry we would be able through those to reward firms achieving substantial increases in productivity without breaching the basic terms of the national understanding, because those profit-sharing payments would not be considered as wages and therefore would be outside the terms of the understanding. We face a very challenging decade and I regret the Government do not seem to have an idea of the extent of the problems or a proposal to meet them. I hope, therefore, that an early opportunity is given by the Government to our people to make their decision as to who is best fitted to govern the country.

Many people do not seem to realise that we are coming through the recession better than most. When many other economies were stagnant we achieved some positive growth. We expanded our exports at a rate above the Community and OECD averages. Because of the high sterling rate we are exporting more Irish goods than ever to Britain and import an enormous amount of goods from other EEC countries where our currency parity is very good.

This budget ensures the continued expansion of our exports. The aim of the investment plan is the continuation of a high level of investment, which constitutes 30 per cent of our gross national product, which, in turn, will assure us of a continuation of record levels of new job approvals. Indeed, speaking of new job approvals, I should say that in the past three-and-a-half years, since Fianna Fáil returned to office in 1977, the numbers of new job approvals in my constituency have been twice the figure achieved by the National Coalition during their four-and-a-half years in office.

Because we are faring better in the current recession than if our currency was still tied to sterling we must capitalise on this opportunity. This budget ensures that that opportunity is not missed. By increasing by 36 per cent expenditure on the Public Capital Programme we are making the confidence of the business world even stronger at home and abroad in regard to our future economic prospects. This confidence is no longer tied to the neighbouring British industrial power base but is international, since we have attracted so much investment from the United States and Japan and, above all, since our trade with EEC countries has been increased to huge proportions particularly in the past ten years. We have enormous imports from EEC countries where our currency parity is very good. Therefore it is my belief that immediate measures should be taken to explore the possibilities of importing much more raw materials for our industries from those same EEC countries rather than from Britain. It should be noted here that the only people who suffer from this disparity between our currency and sterling are those who take holidays in Britain. If we now increase our intake of raw materials from EEC member countries we will make our growing volume of exports to Britain and the rest of the world more competitive.

Government policy, as illustrated in this budget and investment plan, demonstrates that we are growth-orientated. This is sound policy. Economic depression breeds depressed economists who can see nothing but gloom, who cannot see that it is the very nature of a depression to lift ultimately and always rather dramatically. This has been a very long world economic recession and, because it must lift, it is lifting. When past economic depressions were lifting the upturn in economies was always swift. Indeed if I might say so, the upturn in the larger, even huge economies was slowest. A very good example of this is industrial Britain in the present and indeed past recessions. It is the smaller, compact economies like ours which, though hit hard, lift more quickly. In economic matters it often pays to be comparatively small because such economies tend to be more buoyant.

This budget is geared to taking advantage of impending circumstances. Only last week here in this House a former Coalition Minister for Finance could not find adjectives gloomy enough to describe our economy. When that same Deputy was in office he condemned any kind of economic planning. Indeed, I was glad to hear Deputy Bruton proclaim here this morning that the National Coalition Government had no economic plan; he actually admitted that here this morning. I doubt if we on this side of the House need to reminded of that fact——

The Deputy's party have not got one either.

——because we are fully conscious that the National Coalition had no economic plan. Indeed, the then Minister for Finance, it seems, was content to see our economy blown anywhere by prevailing trade winds. Look where they left us — almost stranded on the rocks. In the 1977 election the people took the direction of our economy out of the hands of that same Minister and Government.

The present Government's financial policy illustrates that deflation is out as a policy suitable to Irish conditions. Investment growth must be higher to avail of the buoyancy in world economies just returning. This budget will increase our growth potential, hence attracting more and more industries which in turn leads to more and more jobs. If all this was only seen in this light it would be plainly seen that we will be in the vanguard of the impending upturn. A good example of this is our spearheading the great technological breakthrough in the microchip revolution, so much so that by 1995 70 per cent of the jobs in which hundreds of thousands of young workers and technicians will be engaged are coming into existence only now. These jobs in technology are coming into existence because of the efforts of this Government in the present and past budgets to attract more investment, thereby securing a proliferation of jobs in this decade and right into the nineties.

We have heard much criticism of this Government and their performance in regard to the 1977 election manifesto. The people opposite seem to forget that that manifesto constituted a confident plan for the rescue of our economy from the Coalition doldrums. The people saw the need for this plan. Honest people now see what it achieved and what this budget is continuing to achieve in very difficult economic circumstances. Between 1977 and 1980 employment was increased by the creation of 82,000 new jobs. I should point out that the manifesto target for that period was 75,000. I should like to point out also to Deputies on the far side of the House that when Fianna Fáil returned to office in 1977 there were approximately 115,000 people unemployed. One of the basic reasons Fianna Fáil were returned to office in that 1977 election was that we hoped, and our policy was, to ensure that that figure would be reduced considerably.

If one goes back to early 1979 we had a situation where the figure was less than 90,000; it was about 88,000. That was a significant decrease in a very short space of time. Unfortunately at that point the world economic recession really got to grips with the world economies and we lost out in some of our traditional industries and employment numbers were decreased. So let us not forget, when we speak about numbers of people employed here, that we have 30,000 school leavers coming on the job market in each year. When one takes into account the fact that we have reduced our unemployment figures to that extent in a short space of time and that we have 30,000 coming on the job market in each year, we can honestly say that but for the drastic world economic recession that really set in at that point we would now be in a very sad position. The figure of 150,000 would be drastically reduced but for the world economic recession. Let no one try to tell me that the recession that the National Coalition Government went through during their period in office was anything like the recession that this Government, and indeed the world economies, have gone through, particularly in the past 18 months to two years.

When one talks of unemployment one should not confine oneself to this little country. One has only to look across the water to see the situation that Britain finds itself in today with 2.5 million unemployed and a forecast of three million unemployed by the end of this year. One should look at West Germany which had full employment up to a short time ago and now finds itself in the situation of having over one million people unemployed. But we do not have to go to our EEC neighbours when comparing figures because we can just look north within the confines of our own land and see the situation in the Six Counties where there are over 100,000 people unemployed, and when one takes into consideration the population of the Six Counties and the population of the Twenty-six Counties, we can honestly say we are doing extremely well in holding our unemployment figures at their present level. Let us not allow the doom and gloom approach by the Opposition Deputies to depress us. They are not taking into full consideration all aspects of unemployment here. The Government managed to introduce 82,000 new jobs since they came into office in 1977. We set out to do two very important and basic things for our people in this budget, to increase the numbers of jobs available and to give the people in jobs and those coming into new jobs the incentive to raise production.

In the last four years or so Fianna Fáil have been responsible for very significant improvements in the position of recipients of social welfare benefits. During this Government's term of office there has been a real improvement of between 40 and 50 per cent in social welfare payments compared to the 10 per cent during the term of the previous Coalition Government. So, in the past three budgets since coming into office in 1977. Fianna Fáil have proved themselves to be the party with real social concern. It has always been the policy of Fianna Fáil Governments to ensure that the poorer sections and the under-privileged of our community were adequately dealt with in any budget. Following the recent budget the media stated that it was not an election budget. Being a member of Fianna Fáil and supporting them, I would hope that at no time could Fianna Fáil ever be accused of introducing what could be described as an election budget. I would hope that a budget introduced by Fianna Fáil would be seen as an honest, straightforward budget. I am convinced that this is what this recent budget is. The fact that we have increased social welfare benefits by 20 to 25 per cent proves that we have that social concern for the under-privileged and poorer sections.

Naturally, in all budgets, even budgets framed for a buoyant world economy, there are bound to be some hardships for good economic and social reasons. The economic reasons are the situation I outlined, to take advantage of our position regarding industrial growth and job creation, and the social reasons are to make those in receipt of social welfare more secure and in a better position to cope. We on this side of the House recognise that there is no charity to be handed out, that young people have a right to jobs and that social welfare beneficiaries have a right to a decent standard of living.

When we speak of industry we tend to forget agriculture. Naturally this would be fatal for our economy since we are very much an agricultural-oriented economy. This is something that we on this side of the House have always taken into consideration in all budgets. Since agriculture is the basis of our overall economy no budget should neglect the injection of moneys for progress in farming. So, in this 1981 budget additional reliefs costing £35 million are introduced. What I have said regarding the effects of the recession in our industrial economy is even more true of our agricultural economy. I said recession leads to predictions of gloom and depression from economists and that there is no need for this. As our economy is comparatively small but vibrant it will rise with the world economic buoyancy which will suddenly come with the upturn. That this applies to our agricultural economy is borne out by a very recent study. It has been discovered now that the farming depression of 1975 very swiftly lifted between September and March and it caught the farming community unawares. The 1974 depression brought gloomy doomsday predictions from agriculturalists and economists and Coalition Ministers, and there was an unwarranted cutback in financial expenditure on farming. An example was the very harmful drop in investment in land fertilisers. Farmers should learn from that experience and see that overall it is impossible for a recession to continue, that the upturn is always swift and that the man who maintains a fair level of reinvestment is the one who is going to benefit best from the ending of the recession.

The Government's plan for farming for the 1980s is evident from the financial statement of the Minister for Finance on 28 January and from the Minister's budget speech. It is recognised plainly that we have a concern not only for the individual farmer and his family but also for the effect that a weakened agricultural sector would have on the whole economy. When our 1980 agricultural output represented 17 per cent of national output as against only 4 per cent of all other EEC countries this concern obviously is necessary.

Over the past eight months this Government have dealt with this problem by very practical measures introduced by the present Minister for Agriculture, Deputy MacSharry, who in October of last year produced a package for the farming sector which involved (1) increased allocation for farm modernisation grants; (2) a doubling of the rates of grants under the disadvantaged areas scheme; (3) a supplement to the EEC suckler cow scheme and (4) additional rates relief. All those cost £39 million in 1980. That was only last October. Also at that time the Government arranged for the provision of £100 million in reduced interest loans for agriculture, and now in the recent budget the Government have a number of direct reliefs to help farmers offset their income erosion and to help themselves by investment in further farm development. These reliefs include the suspension of levies for the disease eradication programme at a cost to the Exchequer again of almost £10 million, the discontinuation of the resource tax, the total derating of lands up to £50 valuation and a 50 per cent relief for farmers with valuations between £50 and £75. All of this is costing the Exchequer a further £35 million.

As I have pointed out, the Government can only help the farmers to help themselves. It is the farmer himself who farms the land. Lessons can be learned from past experience of sudden decline in farm incomes in short-term or long-term recessions and then a sudden and dramatic upturn. It has happened in the past, and farming on the basis of only year-to-year planning is not good enough for the individual alone or for the agricultural sector in general or, for that matter, from the point of view of the whole economy.

It is crucial that all farmers avail themselves here and now of the reliefs that are provided to regain the drive and determination to expand production. There is work to be done, there is land to be reclaimed and re-enriched, and livestock population to be expanded. An economic upturn world-wide is about to begin as is always the case when a recession is nearing its end, and there is a market to be met. Farmers have a unique commodity for sale. People must buy food, and that is what the farmer produces. If the farming community in this country gear themselves to the upturn, which is already there as far as the farming community are concerned with increased cattle prices, and if they reinvest in and develop their holdings, particularly at this time, I have every confidence that they can achieve great things.

Any budget can be described as a national housekeeping plan and it is not a hand-out to any section of the community. The Government's job is to manage the national finances and help sections of the economy to help themselves. The additional reliefs costing £35 million are designed to help farmers help themselves to the increased financial benefits which inevitably will come quickly in the wake of this diminishing recession. As I said earlier, there will always have to be a market for food and basically this is what the farmer produces. This is where I would like to see most effort made in bringing new industries to this country. More attention should be paid, while spending money on attracting new industries, to attracting more industries which would use our own agricultural produce as raw material.

A lot more can be done in this respect and it is only common sense to ensure that it is done and that every effort is made in this direction. Nobody can convince me that we are economically correct in exporting so many live cattle and sheep, so much unprocessed meat and foodstuffs. In doing so we are exporting what we in turn have to import, the most desired commodity of all, and that is jobs. Unfortunately, by exporting live cattle and sheep we are exporting jobs out of this country. We hear a great deal about under-developed and under-cropped hundreds of thousands of acres here in Ireland, and this is a national scandal and a grave economic sin. If we are in earnest about jobs for the young workers and land for our young farmers, surely there must be some way to awaken the national farming, industrial and economic will to develop and produce where there is little or no production. There must be a great incentive for any Government or any section of the farming community to ensure that this task is tackled, that food processing projects are introduced, and that these projects are processed in industry. More effort should be made in this direction.

"Necessity is the mother of invention" is the old saying and it is true in economic matters. A great example of this is the world energy crisis forcing people into seeking new ways of energy conservation and new sources of energy. We have a telling example of this in the financial investment which the Minister for Finance is making in our bogland and in the legislation that is going through the Dáil at present which is of great advantage to small farmers, smallholders and people who hold bog rights and turbary rights in bogs who may not be in farming at all. This legislation can be of great assistance to those people to ensure that boglands not suitable for Bord na Móna development will be taken in hand and, through the grants made available in the recent Turf Development Bill, the production of turf from those bogs will help to reduce our energy problems. The price of energy has forced people to look for native, undeveloped energy sources. The world recession should make our agricultural and industrial sectors do this. Now is the time for further investment and re-investment. This should be the national aim throughout the whole spectrum of employers, employees and the self-employed rather than trying to extract from the economy greater incomes than those already provided in the second national understanding.

The balancing of our regional development is inherent in the Government's investment plan. The IDA, SFADCo and Údarás na Gaeltachta get significant increases and the effects of investment in agriculture, forestry and fishing will be nationwide. Deficiencies in our road network will be set right under the investment plan, which is necessary if we are to realise our national potential. The Government are providing £80 million this year for that purpose, £67 million for improvement works and £20 million for maintenance. This balanced budget which, in the first week got such a barraging from the Opposition——

Balanced budget? It is not a balanced budget.

——is now looked at by sensible people and whole sections of the community as a wise and sane budget. It will also help to ensure that 11,500 workers will be employed on the 1981 road programmes. In this area it is worth noting that since 1977 local authority expenditure has increased by 69 per cent, from £433 million in 1977 to a total of £744 million in 1980. When one hears Opposition speakers admit that the Coalition Government had no economic plan, from the figures I have quoted it is clear that Fianna Fáil and the Government have an economic plan, despite having gone through the worst recession in the western world for decades. We are continuing to hold on to that economic plan. The figures I quoted for the last year of the Coalition Government prove that, with almost a doubling of the figures spent on roads. No one need tell me that inflation takes account of 69 per cent of an increase in a period of three-and-a-half years. Irrespective of how inflationary it was, it does not come near the significant increase of almost 70 per cent which we have made in our road network in the same period of time.

On the day the budget was announced, 28 January, one of our morning papers predicted that welfare benefits would rise by 15 per cent. On the following day, after the Government had announced a 25 per cent increase, it was sad to see the same writer in the same paper belittling the Government's efforts to spread the burden more evenly and to share the national wealth in a balanced way. This is symptomatic of the coverage given almost totally in the media. We all have an obligation to correct and criticise, but it is important that whatever criticism we make is constructive. The foretellers of a gloomy future have had their say in the past and we have listened to it from the Opposition benches many times. Despite this, Fianna Fáil Governments have been proven correct in the confidence which they have in the people, in the potential of the Irish worker and in the bright future of our economy. Irrespective of what Deputies on the Opposition benches say, the future of our economy is bright. Smaller economies come out best from world economic recessions.

Some small economies.

I am convinced that we can deal with the economic recession we are going through, which will end shortly. I have every confidence in our workers, employers and industrialists. It is good to see that my confidence is shared by foreign investors and industrialists, in spite of the doomsday and gloomy pictures which Oppositon Deputies paint so regularly. The budget is now seen in a very good light. It is reassuring, fair and realistically hopeful. I strongly and confidently recommend it.

The economy, not for the first time under a Fianna Fáil Government, is in the doldrums at present. It is in a shambles. If the drift is allowed to continue, there is a great danger that the International Monetary Fund may intervene as they did in Great Britain in 1976. Irishmen fought and died for the democracy and freedom which we have to day. It is ironical that the Fianna Fáil Party, which calls itself the great Republican Party, has plunged us so much into debt that we may now lose our independence and our freedom of action. Financial juggling by the Government in the budget, in the interest of party expediency, may help to keep Fianna Fáil in office; but the same manoeuvring over the years has contributed largely to growing inflation, the rising cost of living and the growth in our national debt, which now threatens the basis of our whole economy. This budget has added a further 2 per cent to our cost of living. It does nothing to curb the escalation in food and fuel prices which have hit the living costs of the poorest groups in the country.

When we were in office, Deputy Mark Clinton and other Ministers went to EEC meetings. They had instructions to get the highest possible prices for anything we had to export. By getting high prices our Minister at that time increased the farmers' income from £250 million to nearly £950 million. If those increases resulted in hardship for any section of the community, we were prepared to subsidise the weaker sections against those higher prices. At that time we subsidised butter to the extent of 30p per pound. We subsidised milk to the extent of 4½p per pint and we subsidised also flour, cheese and other foodstuffs. Despite the promises that Fianna Fáil had made to the people, they abolished many of these subsidies on their return to office just as they abolished also subsidies on lime and fertilisers. We had introduced the lime and fertiliser subsidies in an effort to encourage increased production.

The PAYE changes in the budget will not compensate for the inflation of 1980. This year workers are facing a higher tax burden in real terms. Not since the days of the economic war has there been so much poverty among the farmers as there is today but despite this situation the relief for farmers in the budget is less than half that demanded by Fine Gael and less than the one-twentieth which the IFA and some economists claim is necessary to put the farmers back on their feet and restore confidence among them. There is a measly £20 million being provided by way of the budget for the farmers but many economists calculate that the amount needed in order to provide the farmers with the sort of income to which they are entitled is in the region of £250 million to £300 million.

The doubling of the car registration fee only continues the Fianna Fáil policy of re-introducing car tax by stealth. The increased duty on petrol hits everybody in the community but especially those workers who must use their cars in order to commute daily to their places of employment. When the Taoiseach was elected more than 12 months ago he was regarded in some quarters as being the saviour of all mankind. We were told that he was the man who would ensure that the trains ran on time, for instance, and that he would solve all our economic ills but things seem to have turned sour. Instead of the leadership to which the people are entitled all we have had during the year is public relations gimmickry. The ship of State seems to be heading for the rocks. It can be said that the captian seems to be lost in the mist.

During last year the Taoiseach should have been tackling the problems of the increasing cost of living, of increasing unemployment, if increasing foreign borrowing and of increasing inflation. Instead, we had a situation in which Nero was fiddling while Rome was burning. All we had was the kind of gimmickry as when the Taoiseach went to Limerick to open a cowshed and when 25 State cars converged on Castlebar where the Taoiseach was to unveil a plaque in honour of himself.

I should not be surprised if the Deputy were quite a good fiddle player himself.

That would depend on the type of fiddle. All of our problems can be traced back to the manifesto of 1977. At that time everything was up for grabs. Now the chickens are coming home to roost. We now have a situation of a record so far as unemployment is concerned. The figure in that regard, according to the information supplied by the Government, is more than 130,000 but if we use the criteria used by Fianna Fáil when we were in office and include the 40,000 to 50,000 young people who left school last year, we find that the unemployment figure stands at about 180,000. Many economists and experts claim that if present trends continue we could well have a situation in which 200,000 people will be unemployed by the end of next year. That is not what Fianna Fáil promised in 1977.

We may well ask if there is anything in the budget that will provide employment for our people. According to the Official Report of 29 January this year, the Taoiseach said, as reported at column 583:

Let us not mistake or misunderstand what is happening with employment. We are proving our capacity through a high investment policy to provide enough new jobs to reduce unemployment but the current recession is temporarily off-setting these gains by losses in older industries.

Have words lost their meaning? Is the Taoiseach living in a fairyland when he tells us that we are proving our capacity through high investment? That famous manifesto of 1977 contained a promise of a reduction in unemployment. The outgoing Government had experienced what was perhaps the worst recession since 1929. Oil prices had increased by more than 400 per cent whereas the increases since then have been of the order of 100 to 120 per cent. However, the Fianna Fáil manifesto promise was to reduce unemployment in 1977 by 5,000, in 1978 by 20,000, in 1979 by 25,000 and in 1980 by 30,000. This represented a total reduction of 80,000 at a time when the unemployment figure was 107,000. It can be seen, then, that if Fianna Fáil had kept their promise the number of unemployed today would be 27,000. But let us take the official figures that we have been given and let us exclude those children who left school last year. According to the figure given to us two weeks ago, the unemployment figure is approximately 127,000. In other words, the Fianna Fáil promise has fallen short by 100,000 to date. What faith can the people have in a party who have been found to be so far out in their estimation?

It is interesting to note also that on 4 February, as reported at column 926 of the Official Report, Deputy Briscoe had this to say:

For the sake of the country I am glad that Fianna Fáil have been in office since 1977. If we had had a Coalition Government we might have had a revolution or something because the Opposition have opposed everything that we have done in relation to job creation.

One can only wonder how much worse the situation would be if we had not voiced our opposition to what was happening. I am talking about a revolution because there is a great danger of a social revolution when we have so many people who cannot get jobs at home, when we have so many who were fooled by Fianna Fáil in 1977 by the promises to reduce unemployment by 100,000 and get it down to 27,000, when we have so many educated young people leaving school able and willing to work, who are promised work by Fianna Fáil but there is no sign of it, or even the opportunity to work, and there is nothing in this budget to provide work for such people.

When we were in power, we heard a great deal about the increased cost of living. It did increase at that time but we gave increases in social welfare and wage increases to cover the higher cost of living. Fianna Fáil were not satisfied with that and in 1977 they promised that if elected they would reduce the cost of living by 1 per cent in the first year, by 2 per cent in 1978 and 2 per cent in 1979. They left 1980 blank. In the first three years, therefore, they promised to reduce the cost of living by 5 per cent. Instead, the cost of living in the past four years has increased by about 70 per cent according to figures given recently by the Minister in the House. Instead of honouring their promise to the people to reduce the cost of living by 5 per cent —unfortunately people fell for it—we have an increase of 70 per cent so that the Government were 75 per cent wrong in that promise.

We depend on our exports to a very large extent. The standard of living of every citizen depends on what the farmers, labourers and industrialists can produce and export profitably. When we left office in 1977 we had a 5½ per cent growth rate, the highest I think of any country in the EEC. Despite that, Fianna Fáil told us that output would increase by 4 per cent in 1978, by 3 per cent in 1979 and in 1980 by a further 3 per cent if they got into office. On that basis, growth was to increase by 10 per cent but instead we have a reduction of 4½ per cent down to 1 per cent and for part of the time growth has been stagnant. That is how Fianna Fáil kept their promises to the people in that respect.

We now come to borrowing, which is so important. Last January after the present Taoiseach had been elected he went on radio and television and said: "We have been borrowing enormous amounts of money, borrowing at a rate that just cannot continue, in 1979 over £1,000 million, one-seventh of our national output. This is just far too high a rate and cannot possibly continue."

In the Dáil on 25 May 1976 when the national debt was less than £3,000 million Deputy Haughey, the present Taoiseach, said as reported in volume 291 of the Official Report:

It is in the report of the Central Bank. One would have thought that a former economic commentator would have had that information....

He then went on to say:

Does the Minister agree that, if one takes the Government's foreign indebtedness plus the foreign indebtedness of the State companies and the net foreign liability of the banking system against our foreign external holdings, we are no longer a creditor nation internationally? In the three short years this Government have been in power they have moved us from the position of being a strong international creditor nation into being an international debtor. Will the Minister not agree with that?

Does the Taoiseach realise what has happened since then? Since the foundation of the State in 1922 we have had different Governments. We began with the Cosgrave Government, then we had the de Valera Government, the Government led by John A. Costello, the Government led by Eamon de Valera again, the Government led again by John A. Costello, the Government led again by Eamon de Valera; after that we had the Government led by Seán Lemass and then we had two or three Governments led by Deputy Jack lynch and a Government led by Liam Cosgrave up to 1977. Does the present Taoiseach realise that in those 55 years the total borrowing, the national debt at the beginning of 1977 when we were leaving office, stood at around £3,500 million? Does he further realise that despite all he has said in this House and throughout the country at the end of 1980 the national debt stood at £7,900 million? Does he realise that this Government, in three years, have more than doubled the national debt? They borrowed more than was borrowed in the previous 55 years, despite all the promises made. Last year he promised that borrowing in 1980 would not increase by more than 8 per cent of the gross national product. Instead, the Government ended up by borrowing £1,217 million, which was nearer to 14 per cent of GNP.

Last year we had to pass Supplementary Estimates to the tune of £464 million. If the Government were doing their duty and not preparing for a general election which makes them afraid to offend any section of the community, there would have been a second budget. But no, it is easier to borrow and keep on borrowing as long as they get away with it. However, this money must be paid for sooner or later. This year, according to the Government's own figures, borrowing by the Exchequer and State bodies will amount to a staggering £1,225 million, or 18.3 per cent of GNP. This sum will require more massive foreign debt, will raise the cost and reduce the availability of borrowing for Irish farmers, industry and, indeed, for consumers. Instead of £900 million, as the Taoiseach has promised in January 1981, they borrowed £1,217 million. This year they say they are going to borrow almost £1,900 million. If they break that promise, as they did last year, they will end up borrowing £2,500 million. I believe that is what will happen and then our national debt will stand at around £9,000 million. In other words, in over four years from 1977 to the present time, this Government will have trebled the national debt.

Someone asked a question in the House last week which elicited the information that every worker has a tag of £7,000 of national debt around his neck. Every individual in this State, has a tag of something like £2,500 of national debt around his neck. Some Deputy last week asked what it costs to service the national debt and was told that it will cost roughly £981 million to service the national debt this year. In other words, every penny which is being collected from the PAYE taxpayer will go to service the national debt. If Fianna Fáil had not imposed this huge burden of debt on the Irish people, that £981 million could be given to farmers, industry or used towards producing jobs at home, which we are all interested in doing.

To quote the famous Fianna Fáil manifesto, in 1977 when we were in office they said that the national debt stood at around £3,000 million after 55 years of native Government. Of course, the present Taoiseach had a hand in this manifesto, although he may have tried to distance himself from some of the things which happened. The man who was to provide all the jobs for our people, Deputy O'Donoghue, who is an honest, responsible man, made the statement here in this House that he would provide jobs for all our people, even if we were to dig holes and get them filled in. Unfortunately, we now have the potholes all over the country but the Government have not given the county councils the money to pay the workmen to fill up the holes. The manifesto states, on page 5:

The country has been plunged into debt at a phenomenal rate.

This is only a third of what it will be at the end of this year.

The interest on these extra debts is costing £8 weekly for every household in the country.

If the Fianna Fáil figures at that time were correct, it will cost £24 for every household by the end of 1981. Is that what Fianna Fáil promised in the past? There is an old saying which begins "Fool me once".

We were also told in the famous manifesto that the borrowing percentage of GNP in 1980 would be 8 per cent. As I have said, it was, in fact, 14 per cent and is heading for 18 per cent this year. We were also told after the budget last year that taxation would be reduced for all income tax payers. I asked a question in the Dáil which was answered on Tuesday, 27 January 1981:

284. Mr. L'Estrange asked the Minister for Finance if he will state in respect of the financial years 1977, 1978, 1979 and 1980 the average amount of income tax collected per head of the population; and the estimated average amount that will be collected in 1981-82.

Minister for Finance (Mr. G. Fitzgerald): On the basis of estimates of population supplied by the Central Statistics Office, the following is the information requested for the years 1977 to 1980 inclusive:

Year

Average amount of income tax collected per head of population

£

1977

159.8

1978

182.4

1979

217.4

1980

295.5

Instead of reducing the taxation for those people as Fianna Fáil promised in 1977, they increased taxation from £159 to £295, by over £130 per head. That is a lovely way to keep their promises.

I have some figures — which I will not go into in detail — about the cost of living obtained in reply to my Question No. 253 of 27 January, 1981:

253. Mr. L'Estrange asked the Taoiseach the actual percentage change in each item included in the consumer price index from mid-May 1977 to the latest available date.

You may remember that during those four years Fianna Fáil were to reduce all prices by 5 per cent. Mutton and lamb, instead of being reduced by 5 per cent, were increased by 45.4 per cent. Cooked meat, instead of being reduced by 5 per cent, was increased by 47.8 per cent. Fresh fish was increased by 45.9 per cent, frozen fish by 56.5 per cent. Fresh milk was increased by 91 per cent, cocoa by 95.8 per cent. Breakfast cereals were increased by 56.1 per cent, jams and marmalades by 61 per cent, overcoats by 40 per cent, waterproofs by 50 per cent, suits and other wear by 49.3 per cent. Boys' clothes were increased by 46.6 per cent, boys' underwear 51.1 per cent, coal 72.3 per cent, bottled gas, 84.6 per cent, piped gas, 138.4 per cent, electricity, 77 per cent, fuel oil, 94 per cent, mortgage interest, 73.4 per cent, house insurance, 65.7 per cent, repairs and decorations, 53.5 per cent. Under household durables the increases range from approximately 45 per cent to 53 per cent, comics 102.5 per cent and magazines and journals 72.4 per cent. I am only taking some of the figures and, being a politician, I am not taking the lowest. Under the heading of transport, vehicles were increased by 69.2 per cent; repairs and maintenance, 62.8 per cent; train fares, 65 per cent; and other travel, 65 per cent. Under services and related expenditure, cinema and theatre increased by 68.4 per cent; other entertainment, 100 per cent; education and training, 84.7 per cent; shoe repairs, 78.2 per cent — soon we will all be on our feet and have to have our shoes repaired — and laundry and dry cleaning, 83.4 per cent. The Government promised to reduce all these items by 5 per cent — and, if the Minister of State does not believe me, he can read it in the manifesto — but instead they were increased.

What is the source of those figures?

Question No. 253 addressed by me to the Taoiseach on 27 January 1981. On the same day I asked about the value of the púnt. This Taoiseach has created a record. He gave us the 72p Irish pound and the 72p pint, but we will leave that for the time being. The 1922 £1 would cost £14.16 in 1980. In 1977 we were told everything would be stabilised and that there would not be an increase in the cost of living. On that date the 1922 £1 cost £9.83. After three years that 1922 £1 would now cost £14.16, an increase of over £5.

Recently we heard the Taoiseach talk about savings and Government policy. At colume 580 of the Official Report he said:

Government policy is directed towards the encouragement of savings to the maximum extent to finance this year's huge investment programme.

Those are nice words, but there is too much woolly talk that our people should save more, work harder and practise more self-denial. These are commendable sentiments but, unfortunately, under the present Fianna Fáil Government there is neither the opportunity nor the incentive to put them into practice. How can one save more when each day brings new prices increases? Where is the example to work harder when those entrusted with government neglect to do the work expected of them? The majority of our citizens are hardworking. Are they to deny themselves the ordinary simple things to which they are legitimately entitled when waste and squandermania run riot among an arrogant group of people in the Fianna Fáil Party who now look upon themselves as masters, not servants, of the people?

On the day of the unveiling of the plaque to "mé féin" 23 or 24 State cars went down to Castlebar. As one wit said during the Donegal by-election "If you put your foot on the road it would be hit by a ministerial car, or if you lift up your head you would be hit by the Taoiseach's helicopter". The people who talk about saving should set an example.

There is no denying that we are living beyond our means. We are living on borrowed money and on borrowed time. We have heard numerous pleas for our people to work harder, but there should be a greater incentive to work. It is not too much to expect that there should be a greater incentive to work than not to do so. Unfortunately, that is not the case at present. I know of factories which were working three days. When the employers were ready to do a full week's work they found it very hard to get their workers back because they were much better off on three days.

A factory in the midlands recently was not doing very well and they had a chance to get money to keep going. The employees contacted public representatives and asked them to stay at home from the public meeting called to keep the factory open. They wanted it closed so that they could draw their redundancy pay. That is bad. This did not happen in my constituency, but the public representatives told me they stayed at home. The factory did not get the money and it closed. There was a time when Irish people took a pride in their work and in their country. Are they losing that pride? I hope not. What we want is an honest day's work for an honest day's pay. If everybody puts his shoulder to the wheel we will succeed.

Far too many people talk about fighting for Ireland, but it would be no harm if we had people who were prepared to work harder.

We have some professional men, doctors, and if one gave them £5 or £10 they ask for how long one wants the certificate. That practice should be rooted out. In a newspaper article on 29 September 1980 it was said that many doctors in this country knowingly provided medical certificates to employees who were perfectly fit for work. An eminent doctor, Galway-based Professor Eamonn O'Dwyer, blamed that trend on a lack of ethics. He also said that in some cases doctors give certificates to people who are better able to work than the doctors themselves. An unfortunate fact is that the honest doctor is losing business because people will not approach him. A person who robs £100 will be sent to jail, but by writing these certificates doctors may be depriving some industrialist to the extent of perhaps £150. If five or six workers have certificates at the same time the loss could amount to £600 or more. Every effort must be made to eradicate this practice. I admire the moral courage of Professor O'Dwyer and it is a pity there are not more such people. Someone else has spoken out, because I saw a newspaper article sometime ago stating that in certain parts of this city medical certificates are being sold.

There has been much talk about the crisis in agriculture but very little has been done in this budget to help farmers. The Government claim to have given concessions of £30 million, but that claim is most misleading. The concessions actually amount to about £19 million. In 1979 Fianna Fáil imposed the 2 per cent levy and the disease eradication charges and they also imposed the resource tax, although in the latter case they have done a U-turn and agreed to abolish it.

It must be agreed that Irish agriculture is at present in the doldrums, not for the first time under a Fianna Fáil Government. Farmer's overheads have increased during the past two or three years by 30 per cent or more. Inflation is between 18 per cent and 20 per cent despite the fact that when Fianna Fáil returned to office in 1977 the rate was about 9 per cent. Interest rates this year and last year have been about 20 per cent, although in 1977 they were around 10.5 per cent. The farmers are the backbone of this country. They have been in many wars, national, social and economic. All they ask is a fair deal and they are certainly not getting this from the Government. Their income has dropped by 50 per cent during the past three years. This is a predominantly agricultural country. If the people on the land are prosperous the whole nation will prosper and the standard of living of every person will rise irrespective of where he is living. Our farmers must have profitable exports because we need the foreign exchange in order to purchase the raw materials for industry. The confidence of the farmers must be restored as soon as possible but this will not be achieved by the measures contained in this budget.

Since the change of Government in 1977 there have not been any worthwhile increases from Brussels. During the Coalition Government the then Minister for Agriculture, Deputy Clinton, did a first-class job. He was prepared to go to Brussels to fight for the interests of this country. Since 1977 none of our Ministers appears to have that kind of commitment.

Some time ago Fine Gael produced a document on the crisis in agriculture detailing a rescue package costing about £70 million. Experts have claimed that it would cost between £250 million and £300 million to right all the present wrongs in agriculture. A motion on our proposed measures was introduced in this House and 66 members of Fianna Fáil, who claim to be the champions of agriculture, went through the lobbies and voted against our proposals. We proposed the abolition of the resource tax and Fianna Fáil have now agreed to that. We also proposed the abolution of the bovine disease levy, because we believe the eradication of bovine disease should be a national charge. The Government have given this concession for one year only. If the farmers are foolish enough to vote them back into office at the next general election, they will re-impose all those taxes, just as they did in the past.

In 1977 Fianna Fáil accused us of crucifying the farmers by the introduction of income tax. I believe this to be a fair form of taxation because the amount paid is based on income. Under the Coalition Government this applied to farmers having a £75 poor law valuation, but Fianna Fáil have now included farmers having a £40 valuation. They also promised to retain the notional system of assessment but that has now been abolished.

We proposed to treat breeding stock as capital for income tax purposes and the Government have come a small way towards meeting that proposal. However, our major proposal was aimed at the kernel of the problem. In order to relieve the pressure on those who have borrowed, we proposed an interest subsidy scheme on loans up to £25,000 taken out for genuine family farm development. Those in most financial trouble are the progressive farmers and they deserve our sympathy. People such as instructors, bank managers and the ACC encouraged farmers to borrow between 1977 and 1979. They found out the names of the progressive farmers and wrote letters to them saying "If you want money come in and get it". Many of the farmers fell for it and they borrowed at 8 or 9 per cent when inflation was at 9 or 10 per cent. They are now paying the penalty. They were told to expand but since then the interest rates have gone as high as 20 or 21 per cent and inflation is at 18 or 19 per cent. Those people are in trouble and I cannot see why the Government have refused to do anything for them as they are the backbone of the country.

Because farmers incomes have dropped many farmers have had to sell their stock with the result that our factories are in trouble. Seed potatoes and young heifers which should have been kept for breeding have been sold. We have less livestock than in previous years which means that farmers will sell less, there will be less to export and there will be less cattle for the meat factories. This will lead to further unemployment in the meat processing industry.

Farm prices have also seriously hit machine suppliers many of whom have closed down. These firms survived all crises in the past but they could not survive this crisis under the Fianna Fáil Government. Because farmers have not got the money, tractor sales are down by 60 per cent, farm machinery by 50 per cent, farm building material by 60 per cent, compound feedstuffs by 15 per cent, cattle feedstuffs by 22 per cent, and fertiliser sales by over 12 per cent. The Government promised that they would help to increase production and since they came to power they have either reduced or abolished subsidies on lime and fertilisers which were paid by the previous Government to help to increase production.

It is hard to get it across to city people such as Gay Byrne, who jibes at farmers on some of his programmes, that the farmers are very badly off. If he were to do a hard day's work on the land he might have a different attitude. The farmers do not mind being the butt of certain jokes but when they have their backs——

The Deputy should conclude.

How long have I?

About half a minute.

There is nothing in this budget for the people. There is a bleak outlook for each and every one of us and the sooner this Government are put out of office the better for the country. If they are in much longer they will bring us all down with them.

Deputy Daly has fifteen minutes.

Deputy L'Estrange in his contribution used some very colourful phrases and provided some good entertainment but he provided few constructive suggestions as to how our ecomomy could be handled. There were only a few remarks about the agricultural proposals of the Fine Gael Party as to how they would deal with the agricultural industry. Other than that the Deputy only encouraged us to work harder to deal with our problems. The Opposition too have an obligation to work harder and to come up with some constructive proposals.

We will do that when we get in.

So long as the Deputy does not do it now.

The Government commitment to increasing employment is evidenced by the exceptional measures being taken this year. The investment plan for 1981 provides for total investment of over £1,700 million in 1981. Higher direct employment of about 10,000 persons will result, mainly in building and construction, and will be for the most part additional to the jobs in manufacturing industry resulting from investment by the industrial promotion agencies. It is important to note that despite all the criticisms of the budget there is not one Member present from either the Fine Gael or Labour Party. As well as the 10,000 persons I have mentioned there will be substantial indirect employment in Irish firms supplying materials and services for the various investment projects and for new manufacturing and other industries. The investment plan will also affect employment in the manufacturing sector. While the volume of output in this sector declined in the second part of 1980, compared with the same period in 1979, there was an increase in volume of 1½ per cent during the first eight months of 1980. Strong growth occurred in the chemical, metal and printing industries, while output in the textile, clothing and footwear, timber and non-metallic industries declined. The investment plan's concentration on developing an infrastructural base, combined with the IDA's success in attracting internationally mobile industry and the favourable climate for development resulting from the Government monetary and fiscal policies will provide a sound basis for increased employment in 1981 and subsequent years.

In relation to the IDA, I confidently expect the authority to keep up their good work in regard to new jobs this year with the creation of an estimated 15,000 to 16,000 new jobs in manufacturing industry. A record number of job approvals was achieved in recent years, more than 35,000 in 1980, 34,500 in 1979 and 30,200 in 1978. SFADCo who are responsible for small industries in the mid-west region and in the Shannon industrial estate have also had their share of success with the provision of 1,500 new jobs. They also expect to approve projects with employment potential of 3,000. Small industrial projects are very important and we must concentrate our minds on the possibilities in small projects for creating jobs. These small projects employing up to 20 people will become very important in relation to job creation.

The Government are also taking steps to ensure that the shortages of highly qualified and skilled labour which accompanied the rapid rise in agricultural output in 1978 and 1979 will not be repeated. As a result of the manpower education programme, output of graduate engineers will increase by a third between 1983 and 1984. There will be a steady increase in output between 1985 and 1987 and a large increase between 1987 and 1988, mainly attributable to the work being done at the National Institutes for Higher Education in Limerick and Dublin. The resulting output in 1990 will be double the output in 1980. As regards technicians, full use is being made of facilities in regional technical colleges particularly in respect of engineering technician courses. A very positive campaign to advertise these courses in the last 12 months has boosted considerably the number enrolling in them. Whereas last year there was a significant number of courses under-subscribed returns now show that in 37 engineering technician courses surveyed, a total of 1,100 first year students had enrolled by November 1980, even though the capacity of the courses was only about 1,000.

Of major importance in determining employment levels in the future will be the impact of micro-processors and products incorporating micro-processors. As Deputies know, we have been extremely successful in attracting to Ireland industries involved directly and indirectly in the manufacture of micro-processors. Employment in electronics has grown from 5,000 in 1975 to 10,000 last year and the expectations are for a level of employment in the industries of between 25,000 and 30,000 in 1985. These developments have not happened accidentally but as a result of a deliberate policy by the IDA, supported by the positive action on the manpower and educational fronts to which I have referred, to attract to Ireland major international firms in the electronics industry. From the point of view of manufacturing of electronic products and other products incorporating micro-processors, the employment effects would be very much on the positive side for Ireland.

The implication of the new electronic technology for other employment sectors is not, however, so clear. Past experience of the introduction of new technologies would certainly not support those who argue for large job losses. We are an extremely open economy depending for our livelihood on exports and, in these circumstances, constrained to follow the most advanced and efficient methods of production. Furthermore we are no longer a low cost producer country and this makes it more essential than ever for us to be efficient, to produce efficiently and to use the most advanced technology and methods of production to achieve these ends.

The implications and potential of the new technology are obviously, therefore, of interest to all bodies in Ireland interested in development including Government, employers and the trade unions. It was with the objective of obtaining an indication of the implications of the new technology for employment in this country that the National Board for Science and Technology undertook a study of the various effects caused by the introduction of micro-electronic technology. The first phase of the report was published in May 1980 and has attracted a considerable amount of interest and favourable comment, indicating that it is meeting a need for a balanced summary of the issues raised by micro-electronic technology. The second phase of the work now in progress is concerned with a detailed examination of the Irish economy, to determine ways in which micro-electronic technology might affect it over the coming decade. The final report will be published within the next two months or so.

Given the small size of our domestic market, we must look to the production of goods for export to provide many of the jobs necessitated by our expanding work force. The world economic recession has been causing exceptionally high job losses internationally. High levels of unemployment are being experienced in most western countries, both those in the OECD areas and the EEC. In fact, Austria seems to have been the only OECD country to escape the rising trend in unemployment. The growth of employment and productivity in the major industrialised countries, particularly Canada, the UK and USA, slowed down in the first half of 1980. In the second half of the year employment fell in response to the decline in output. Despite a slow down in growth in the labour force in the OECD area, the unemployment rate rose to a post war peak of almost 6 per cent of the labour force. In Denmark, the Netherlands and the UK the unemployment rates increased by 56 per cent, 49 per cent and 66 per cent respectively in 1980 compared with an overall increase of 38 per cent here. It is important to point that out. Our experience of the 1974-76 recession is that an improvement in the unemployment situation occurred here much earlier than in some other EEC countries. With the indications now that the recession is about to bottom out we will be in a favourable position to avail of the opportunities that will open up for us.

As regards employment trends here, especially for young people, which will arise as a result of the new technology which is developing at a fast pace at present, the manpower consultative committee emphasised that young people should not be regarded as a separate element in the labour market. The Government accept that the best solution to youth unemployment lies in the creation of permanent jobs and young people will benefit from the many initiatives to which I have referred. The terms of reference of the National Manpower Committee are to advise on the role of manpower policy in economic and social development. They have essentially been concerned with the better functioning of the labour market and the way in which we can direct young people into the opportunities that will be available for them.

One area which will develop at a fast rate in the next few years is the metal and engineering side. It was one of the fastest growing sectors in the seventies and now constitutes 23 per cent of total manufacturing employment. Increased emphasis on both sectors was important for manpower requirements and it has employed a large proportion of specialised engineering skills. For example, 90 per cent of tool makers and 60 per cent of fitters were employed in this sector.

The electronics industry is a rapidly growing sector on the engineeering side and an indication of the importance of it can be seen from the figures that in 1975 5,000 people were employed in the industry while in June 1979 the figure had doubled to 10,000. In the circumstances and in view of the fact that in many areas in this field we have shortages in these skills it is important to direct young people into them. Schools, industry, parents and so on, have an important role to play in directing young people to the job opportunities that will be available for them in the new technological industries which will be expanding here in the future. This is where the jobs will be in the future.

There is no need for pessimism. I should like to sound a warning to the Opposition, who have been forecasting gloom, that at this time students are in the run up to their examinations and it is not helpful to sound notes of warning and gloom and put additional pressures on young people leaving schools. Job opportunities will be there for them and in increasing numbers in the future.

Sitting suspended at 1.30 p.m. and resumed at 2.30 p.m.
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