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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 30 Jun 1981

Vol. 329 No. 1

Appointment of Taoiseach and Nomination of Members of Government.

Ba mhaith liom cead a chur in iúl mar eolas don Dáil gur chuir mé m'ainmniú mar Thaoiseach in iúl don Uachtarán agus gur cheap sé mé dá réir.

I wish to state for the information of the Dáil that I have informed the President that the Dáil has nominated me to be Taoiseach and that he has appointed me accordingly.

I move:—"That Dáil Éireann approve the nomination by the Taoiseach of the following Deputies for appointment to be members of the Government":

Deputy Michael O'Leary

Deputy Peter Barry

Deputy James Tully

Deputy Tom Fitzpatrick (Cavan-Monaghan).

Deputy Eileen Desmond

Deputy John Bruton

Deputy Liam Kavanagh

Deputy Patrick Mark Cooney

Deputy John Kelly

Deputy John Boland

Deputy Paddy O'Toole

Deputy Jim Mitchell

and

Deputy Alan Dukes.

It has been the practice to indicate at this stage the Departments to which the Ministers will be assigned. They are as follows:

Department of Energy—Deputy Michael O'Leary. I also propose to nominate him as Tánaiste.

Department of the Environment —Deputy Peter Barry.

Department of Defence—Deputy James Tully.

Department of Fisheries and Forestry —Deputy Tom Fitzpatrick.

Department of Health and Department of Social Welfare— Deputy Eileen Desmond.

Department of Finance—Deputy John Bruton.

Department of Labour and Department of the Public Service— Deputy Liam Kavanagh.

Department of Transport and Department of Posts and Telegraphs— Deputy Patrick Cooney.

Department of Industry, Commerce and Tourism—Deputy John Kelly.

Department of Education—Deputy John Boland.

Department of the Gaeltacht—Deputy Patrick O'Toole.

Department of Justice—Deputy Jim Mitchell.

Department of Agriculture—Deputy Alan Dukes.

I wish to indicate also my intention to re-assign functions in relation to industry in the Department of Industry, Commerce and Tourism to Deputy Michael O'Leary who, when the assignment is completed, will be Minister for Industry and Energy. Deputy John Kelly will be Minister for Trade and Tourism. There will be a re-assignment also to the Department of the Public Service which will be linked with the Department of Labour.

I wish to inform the House also of my intention to appoint in due course as Minister for Foreign Affairs Professor James Dooge. I will be nominating him to the new Seanad when that opportunity arises and in the meantime Deputy John Kelly will be Minister for Foreign Affairs.

I propose also to nominate for appointment by the Government the following Members as Minister of State—these are the appointments I am making at this stage:

Deputy Gerry L'Estrange

Deputy Michael Begley

Deputy Joe Bermingham

Deputy Eddie Collins

Deputy Donal Creed

Deputy Michael D'Arcy

Deputy Barry Desmond

Deputy Mary Flaherty

Deputy Michael Keating

Deputy Ted Nealon

Deputy Fergus O'Brien

Deputy Jim O'Keeffe

and

Deputy Dick Spring.

I propose to nominate Mr. Peter Sutherland, S.C., for appointment by the President as Attorney General.

First, may I offer to each of these newly appointed Ministers my congratulations and good wishes? I hope that during the debates that lie ahead we will all be able to distinguish between Ministers in their political and ministerial capacities and themselves as individuals and that our criticisms—and I am sure there will be many—will be accepted in that spirit.

We will vote against the appointment of this Government. In doing so we will indicate our opposition in principle to Coalition and also to the political haggling and bartering that have brought this Government into office. In this way we will be indicating also our opposition to the mixed bag of irreconcileables that the parties opposite purport to put forward as a Government programme of action.

I wish to point out that in the recent general election campaign we fought an honest campaign. We asked in a straight-forward manner for a mandate on the basis of a realistic programme. We put that programme before the people and we made no special promises or offered any election bribes or inducements. We did not receive the full mandate or the clear endorsement that we sought but neither did anyone else. Neither of the parties opposite can claim any public endorsement for their original election manifestos and still less for this latest political pot pourri that we are asked to accept as the Government's programme. We will be dealing in detail with that programme later but at this stage I merely wish to underline that many of its major elements do not enjoy the support of anything even approaching a majority of the electorate. This programme is opposed by the trade union movement, to mention but one important element in our society. The programme is dishonest. It is not capable of being implemented. It was put together for the sole purpose of selling coalition to a particular Labour Party conference. Any objective assessment will show that the Government who have just left office brought the country through a most difficult economic period. In the face of an unprecedented recession we rejected deflationary monetarist policies which would only have plunged us deeper into trouble and increased unemployment to unacceptable levels.

To a great extent we succeeded in our efforts to protect jobs and living standards and in investing in infrastructure to lay the basis for recovery later. Our period of Government was marked by a determination to maintain national progress. New modern high technology industry has been obtained against keen world competition and has been established with Government support all over the country. We have created thousands of jobs and have initiated major new programmes. We undertook the essential modernisation of our country's infrastructure. Of course, many of our plans will only come to fruition in the years ahead. For the first time we have formulated a coherent and comprehensive national energy policy. Our telephone system has been radically overhauled to give us the most modern equipment in Europe. The road development plan for the eighties provides for major improvements in our national road system. The national transport system is also undergoing major renewal and is being given a new role in our economic life. New schools, colleges and hospitals are being built in every area of the country.

We instituted a process of continuing consultation, discussion and co-operation with the trade unions, with farmers and with employers, a process which was both beneficial and fruitful. We did not forget the less well-off sections of our community—the pensioners, the widows, the disabled and the handicapped. All of those in receipt of social welfare benefits will remember the real increases they received in the last two Fianna Fáil budgets. We instituted a new approach and brought urgency to the solution of the problem of Northern Ireland. That tragedy continues unabated. In Opposition we will continue to do all in our power to assist in securing a solution.

Fianna Fáil remain the largest party in the Dáil and enjoy the support of nearly half of the Irish people. We hold ourselves in readiness to resume office when called upon and I believe such a call will not be too long delayed. In the meantime I want to assure the House and the country that we will honourably and faithfully discharge our democratic duty as a vigilant and effective Opposition in Dáil Éireann, supporting that which we regard as beneficial and vigorously opposing that which we consider unjust, unrealistic or detrimental to the best interests of our country and its people.

We will vote against the Government for the reasons outlined. However, we wish each individual Minister every success in his or her appointment.

I should like to thank the leader of the Opposition for the congratulations he conveyed to individual members of the Government and for his courtesy in doing so. That was the only part of his remarks with which I can in any way concur.

Fianna Fáil were rejected at the polls basically because of the perception by the people that that party failed to govern, a failure to govern that has no precedent in the annals of this country and which has led to the near collapse of our public finances. In the couple of hours since I was appointed Taoiseach I have had many things to do because the nature of the changeover on this occasion was such that tasks that might have been undertaken earlier could not be undertaken until this afternoon. However, even in that brief time I have learned something of the scale of the damage done. I have to say I am shocked to find the position is even worse than our most pessimistic——

(Interruptions.)

I do not say that without careful consideration. It is not a propagandist remark; it is a factual remark. When the facts are disclosed they will validate what I have to say. This Government have an enormous task ahead of them. It is many decades since any Government faced the kind of problems we face.

(Interruptions.)

The scale of the mess is beyond anything that had to be faced previously. All governments have a difficult task at the start. We face major problems. However, we have the advantage of coming into government with a clear charter in the common programme of our two parties, worked out on the basis of our two election programmes and between which there existed such a wide measure of common agreement. In fact, one of the first tasks I undertook after the election was to prepare a concordance of the two and in going over the several hundred items involved it was encouraging to find the extent to which we found ourselves in agreement—as we had found ourselves in agreement so often on the Opposition benches in the past four years on very many issues against the Government of the day.

There were matters to be sorted out and different approaches to be reconciled but none of these posed an insuperable problem. The reception generally to the common programme has indicated clearly how much common ground there was and reconciliation of the different approaches has met with a wide measure of public acceptance. It provides a basis for sound government—sound government but reforming government. In the past four years two Fianna Fáil administrations did little or nothing in the area of reform where the previous National Coalition had been so active. Fianna Fáil have left behind them so much to be done that this Dáil will have to become the hardest working Dáil, as was the Dáil when the National Coalition Government were in power, in terms of the volume of legislation enacted and the amount of work done.

I am glad to have assembled a team whose talents will see us through this difficult period. I believe we can overcome the difficulties that have been left to us and I believe that in doing this we will get the support of the people. It is clear that tough measures will be needed but I believe we will get their support because the decision of the electorate was that they were tired of not being governed and they wanted to be governed. We shall govern by the process of listening and leading. We shall not cut ourselves off from the people. We shall remain sensitive to their views and wishes as we have sought to be in Opposition. In keeping in touch with the wishes and desires of the people, at the same time we shall give the leadership that is needed but which has been absent during the past 18 months of the former disastrous Government. I have to say these things at this stage because of what the former Taoiseach said and also because I think the country needs to be told how difficult is the situation. The full measure of this will have to await a fuller study of the situation.

I am grateful to those who have given us the support necessary to be in government. I believe we have the support necessary to sustain this Government through difficult times. Like other administrations that did not have an overall majority, this Government will see through their term of office. There have been some such governments that have done very good work. As I have had occasion to remark recently, one such Government was led by the former Taoiseach's distinguished father-in-law, Deputy Séan Lemass, from 1961 to 1965. That Government put through the Second Economic Programme. They did not face the same problems we face but during the four years they did much good work for the country. I have always recognised that fact and I am willing to say so publicly. I hope when we have completed our term of office in four and a half or five years' time we will have behind us a record, first, of having put the finances of the country in order, and second, of having put us back on to the path of prosperity with employment available which so many people are now deprived of and, third, a record of social reform which will improve upon that of the National Coalition Government and give the people grounds upon which to return us to office so that during the eighties the country may be led by a Government competent in carrying out their functions, concerned for the least privileged and concerned to create in our society something better than the materialistic society which has grown up so rapidly in recent years.

I should like to say a word about Northern Ireland. I shall, as Taoiseach, dedicate myself to this problem which for me has always been a major preoccupation. It will come first as far as I am concerned and I will ensure that it will come first as far as the Government are concerned. Nothing in this State can take precedence over trying to resolve the tragedy of Northern Ireland. Whatever action and leadership is needed and however unpopular that action may be we will take it. If there are times when it is best to be silent in order to help a solution and there are voices calling on us to speak and if by speaking we could do damage, we will have the courage to be silent. When there are times to speak out and speak out strongly we will do so and seek to reestablish the relationship that was created under the previous Coalition Government with both sections of the community in Northern Ireland and that had existed previous to that with one section of the community but not the other.

We will endeavour to strengthen our links with the minority who have suffered so deeply in the last 12 years and reestablish the link with as wide as possible a spectrum of the majority section of the community. It is only through the development of personal links, trust and confidence between the people and the political leaders of the two sections of our island that we will resolve the problem. Through that and the co-operation of the Government of the neighbouring island which has been brought into discussions with us—and I acknowledge this freely—by the leader of the Opposition as Taoiseach, those discussions will be continued and, I hope, brought to a successful conclusion which will strengthen the relationship between our two islands which have shared so much history, most of it, unfortunately, tragic but which has left strong links between us upon which we can build. In establishing those links we should be concerned above all to maintain the trust and confidence of both sections of the community in Northern Ireland. To create that trust and confidence and build on it will be our primary aim.

I express the hope that when my time comes to leave politics something significant will have been achieved towards reuniting the people of the country. It is only in recent years that most of us have come to understand that that is the task. It is a question of bringing together people and not reuniting territory. That is the task we have to tackle and I dedicate myself to it. I say to the people of the State that, if necessary, it will take precedence over domestic matters here, even if that is not the popular thing to do. At the same time we will tackle domestic problems with energy and dedication so as to recreate financial stability and prosperity and create a caring society. Much of the sense of community and people helping each other which was such a deep characteristic of Irish society of long ago has been lost and must be restored. We will endeavour through our leadership to do that.

I thank the House for its indulgence in listening to our necessarily extempore remarks during the pressures of the last few hours. There is another item of business to be dealt with before we adjourn. For the benefit of the House, I should say it is my intention that we resume next week. There is legislation carried over from the previous administration which needs to be put through. The proposals are non-controversial in character. They were proposed by the previous administration and were acceptable to us so they should not be controversial. We will have legislative proposals to make in order to put into effect as early as possible the programme set before the electorate.

Those aspects of the programme which relate to issues of income taxation have to await a budget in the income tax year but there are other proposals relating to agriculture, industry, tourism, third level education, reconstruction grants and so on which we want to put into effect as soon as possible. It will be necessary to introduce legislation to raise money for this purpose because there is no question at this stage of any increase in borrowing. I understand, from a brief encounter with the press before I came here, that there had been remarks on this subject today from a very authoritative source. I have not had a chance to study that but any legislative action we take or action by other means to fulfil our programme will require finance to be provided and we will be introducing measures along the lines set out in our programme. I cannot say any more at this stage until I have had a chance to study the financial situation.

The Dáil will meet next week. It will be necessary to make an order to revert to the hours that the Dáil has been working for some time past. Technically the hours are until 10.30 p.m. and we must take some action to revert to the 8.30 p.m. pattern which by general consensus of the House has been operating successfully. I am not sure what that action is but someone will advise me on the exact terms of what I have to move.

There is another item of business which the Tánaiste will bring before the House in a moment.

Question put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 82; Níl, 78.

  • Allen, Bernard.
  • Barrett, Seán.
  • Barry, Myra.
  • Birmingham, George.
  • Boland, John.
  • Bruton, John.
  • Burke, Dick.
  • Burke, Liam.
  • Byrne, Hugh.
  • (Dublin North-West).
  • Collins, Edward.
  • Conlon, John F.
  • Connaughton, Paul.
  • Connor, John.
  • Cooney, Patrick M.
  • Corish, Brendan.
  • Cosgrave, Liam T.
  • Cosgrave, Michael J.
  • Coveney, Hugh.
  • Creed, Donal.
  • Crotty, Kieran.
  • Crowley, Frank.
  • D'Arcy, Michael J.
  • Deasy, Martin A.
  • Desmond, Barry.
  • Desmond, Eileen.
  • Donnellan, John F.
  • Dukes, Alan M.
  • Durkan, Bernard J.
  • Enright, Thomas W.
  • Farrelly, John V.
  • Fennell, Nuala.
  • FitzGerald, Garret.
  • Fitzpatrick, Tom.
  • (Cavan-Monagham).
  • Flaherty, Mary.
  • Flanagan, Oliver J.
  • Fleming, Brian.
  • Glenn, Alice.
  • Governey, Desmond.
  • Griffin, Brendan.
  • Harte, Patrick D.
  • Hegarty, Paddy.
  • Barry, Peter.
  • Begley, Michael.
  • Bermingham, Joseph.
  • Higgins, Michael D.
  • Kavanagh, Liam.
  • Keating, Michael.
  • Kelly, John.
  • Kemmy, Jim.
  • Kenny, Enda.
  • L'Estrange, Gerry.
  • McCartin, John J.
  • McMahon, Larry.
  • Markey, Bernard.
  • Mitchell, Gay.
  • Mitchell, Jim.
  • Molony, David.
  • Moynihan, Michael.
  • Nealon, Ted.
  • Noonan, Michael.
  • (Limerick East).
  • O'Brien, Fergus.
  • O'Brien, William.
  • O'Donnell, Tom.
  • O'Keeffe, Jim.
  • O'Leary, Michael.
  • O'Sullivan, Toddy.
  • O'Toole, Paddy.
  • Owen, Nora.
  • Pattison, Séamus.
  • Ryan, John J.
  • Ryan, Richie.
  • Shatter, Alan.
  • Sheehan, Patrick J.
  • Sherlock, Joe.
  • Spring, Dick.
  • Taylor, Madeleine.
  • Taylor, Mervyn.
  • Timmins, Godfrey.
  • Treacy, Seán.
  • Tully, James.
  • White, James.
  • Yates, Ivan.

Níl

  • Acheson, Carrie.
  • Ahern, Bertie.
  • Allen, Lorcan.
  • Andrews, David.
  • Andrews, Niall.
  • Aylward, Liam.
  • Barrett, Michael.
  • Barrett, Sylvester.
  • Brady, Gerard.
  • Brady, Vincent.
  • Brennan, Paudge.
  • Brennan, Seamus.
  • Briscoe, Ben.
  • Burke, Raphael P.
  • Byrne, Hugh.
  • (Wexford).
  • Callanan, John.
  • Calleary, Seán
  • Clohessy, Peadar.
  • Colley, George.
  • Collins, Gerard.
  • Conaghan, Hugh.
  • Connolly, Gerard.
  • Coughlan, Clement.
  • Keegan, Seán.
  • Kenneally, William.
  • Killilea, Mark.
  • Kitt, Michael P.
  • Lemass, Eileen.
  • Lenihan, Brian.
  • Leyden, Terry.
  • Loughnane, William.
  • Lyons, Denis.
  • McCarthy, Seán.
  • McCreevy, Charlie.
  • McEllistrim, Thomas.
  • MacSharry, Ray.
  • Meaney, Tom.
  • Molloy, Robert.
  • Moore, Seán.
  • Morley, P.J.
  • Cowen, Bernard.
  • Crinion, Brendan.
  • Crowley, Flor.
  • Daly, Brendan.
  • Doherty, Seán.
  • Ellis, John.
  • Fahey, Jackie.
  • Faulkner, Pádraig.
  • Filgate, Eddie.
  • Fitzgerald, Gene.
  • Fitzgerald, Liam.
  • Fitzpatrick, Tom.
  • (Dublin South-Central).
  • Fitzsimons, Jim.
  • Flynn, Pádraig.
  • Foley, Denis.
  • French, Seán.
  • Gallagher, Denis.
  • Gallagher, Pat Cope.
  • Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
  • Harney, Mary.
  • Haughey, Charles J.
  • Hyland, Liam.
  • Joyce, Carey.
  • Murphy, Ciarán P.
  • Nolan, Tom.
  • Noonan, Michael. J.
  • (Limerick West).
  • O'Donoghue, Martin.
  • O'Hanlon, Rory.
  • O'Leary, John.
  • O'Malley, Desmond.
  • Power, Paddy.
  • Reynolds, Albert.
  • Smith, Michael.
  • Tunney, Jim.
  • Walsh, Seán.
  • Wilson, John P.
  • Woods, Michael J.
  • Wyse, Pearse.
Tellers: Tá Deputies L'Estrange and Mervyn Taylor; Níl, Deputies Moore and Briscoe.
Question declared carried.
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