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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 30 May 1984

Vol. 350 No. 13

Private Members' Business. - Bog Development: Motion (Resumed).

The following motion was moved by Deputy Reynolds on Tuesday, 29 May 1984:
That Dáil Éireann calls on the Government to proceed immediately with the building of the briquette factory at Derryfadda, Ballyforan, County Galway and in the national interest to take all measures necessary to secure the maximum development of the potential of our bogs.
Debate resumed on Amendment No. 1:
To delete all words after "Dáil Éireann" and insert:
"endorses the action of the Government in having a thorough examination carried out of the economic viability of the proposed briquette factory before a decision is made to proceed with the project and notes that in this examination full consideration is being given in the national interest to the maximum development of the potential of our bogs."
—(Minister for Energy.)

When the debate was adjourned on this motion last night I was speaking about the importance of the bog industry to the economy. In 1946 Fianna Fáil acknowledged that by setting up Bord na Móna who have proved to be a very successful organisation in the interim years. Today they employ 6,000 people and have an annual payroll in excess of £50 million. We can see how important that direct employment is to our economy. If we are to have any redundancies, or if the Government or Bord na Móna fail to avail of an opportunity to expand and develop by using our natural resources, we can see the amount of money which will be lost in the coming years.

With regard to Ballyforan I should like to state that Bord na Móna were working on that project up to 4 p.m. yesterday evening. At that time an emergency meeting of all the staff was called and workers were told that Bord na Móna had made a decision to postpone the building of the factory for another year. It is obvious that if Bord na Móna were working on the project until 4 p.m. yesterday evening it was not their intention to postpone the building of the factory. I understand that briquette sales from the various Bord na Móna factories were higher in the first quarter of this year compared to the corresponding period of 1983. The argument put forward by the Minister for Energy that Ballyforan would not be a viable project falls flat on those facts.

A major difficulty has been created in the west due to this decision not to go ahead with the building of the factory. There is a big threat hanging over some service companies there. I am aware that a company that supplied some of the engineering equipment for the proposed factory will be in a weak position if they are not selected for other projects in Dublin and elsewhere. In fact, the company could go out of existence. Many small companies in the west are in a similar position. The decision in regard to Ballyforan will have a detrimental effect on the economy in the west. We have had many meetings with Ministers and Ministers of State in the last year, but the same attitude was adopted at all meetings. When we met Minister of State Collins we were told that the matter was under review and a decision would be made as soon as possible. Last August we met the Minister for Industry and Energy, Deputy J. Bruton, who told us that a decision would be made shortly. When we asked when that would be, he replied "As soon as possible". When we asked if a decision would be made in 1983 he sniggered, as only he can, and said that our question was a silly one, that of course a decision would be made in 1983.

Had the Fianna Fáil representatives in the west not consistently and persistently in recent months put pressure on the Government I doubt if we would have a decision yet. Yesterday evening we were given the sad news that this major project was being postponed. This type of political procrastination is the hallmark of the Coalition Government. We have witnessed an economic withdrawal from the west and the decision in regard to Ballyforan represents the start of a move against the west. Scarriff was closed down because the Government refused to make £80,000 available and the Connacht Regional Airport was not given the money that was expected. Operations at the Tuam sugar factory are being curtailed and staff have been transferred.

I appeal to the Minister of State to give a firm commitment to the tolerant workers of Bord na Móna, to the seasonal workers who do not have jobs, to the farmers who own the bogs and to the people of the west who have been responsible for providing services to Bord na Móna over the years, that the factory will go ahead sooner rather than later. He should announce to the House that after 12 months the Government are committed to giving the same amount of economic investment to the west that they have given to the east and other parts since they took office.

I would like to thank the Deputies on both sides of the House who contributed to this debate. They have demonstrated the concern felt by all at the difficulties facing Bord na Móna in their efforts to build this factory which had promised to bring such benefits to the local communities in an area where options are limited. Exploitation of an indigenous resource, particularly where the employment given is long term and stable, is a prime enterprise and there is great disappointment on all sides at the shadow overhanging the Ballyforan project. It has been the hallmark of the present Government that State boards should carry out their responsibilities to the full and manage their affairs with competence and effectiveness. It is only to be expected then that the board's approach to new projects must be prudent at all times, especially in an uncertain economic and financial climate. The timing of such projects must be determined by two things — the board's ability to pay their way and the existence of a market for the product. Revenue must be sufficient to meet all costs; money spent on new development can only be recovered through sales of turf, milled peat, briquettes and moss peat. The level of borrowing required to fund new development, especially at a time of high interest rates, makes investment in new projects financially hazardous. Such investment if not soundly based could seriously threaten the board's solvency and because of this all new projects must be very critically appraised.

The debate in the House has focused quite rightly on the consequences for the social and economic life of the area if the Ballyforan project does not go ahead and, as a rural Deputy, I can understand their fears in this regard. The Tánaiste and the Government must, however, have regard to two aspects of this project — to the optimal use of the important indigenous fuel source that is peat and the prudent use of scarce and expensive finance for capital projects to ensure that the best possible use is made of both. The Government, the Minister for Energy and I recognise our responsibilities in regard to these two duties.

I am conscious of the role and value of peat as an indigenous fuel source of very great value to this country, not only in terms of import saving in respect of expensive oil or coal, but in the safety and security of a supply within our own country. I am conscious, too, of the 30 years of employment afforded and of considerable economic underpinning to the regions affected and indeed the degree of prosperity that it brought to these regions and to the nation.

The work of Bord na Móna in the decades since the mid-thirties is one of the success stories of this country. It is more than that, more than a success story, it has been a pioneer, and it has been emulated in other places where peat resources are available. In more recent years, the Government have shown their faith by approving the third programme on which Bord na Móna are now engaged. This was done in the face of rising costs, of scarce capital resources, of increasing interest rates, virtually at times to crippling proportions, and of the very great risk that these ever-increasing costs, fuelled also by a very adverse inflation rate, could push Bord na Móna projects well beyond budgeted costs.

That, too is a problem which this House and the Government cannot be unmindful about. It would be reckless in the extreme not to pay full regard to the need for viability and effectiveness in investment decisions. Economic development, the growth in the national product, the affording of new opportunities for employment, these are one side of the equation with which Government must be concerned. The other side is to achieve this effectively, within economic viability and by not depriving other areas of Government investment or activity by cost overruns, by unviable projects, by non-competitive enterprises. Spokesmen on the Opposition benches devoted much of their comments to the first half of this equation; not as many are equally as realistic or as pressurising in relation to the second. I think the times we are in demand that they should be.

The rationale of the board's existence is to produce peat and thereafter to create arable land. The first responsibility of the organisation must be to implement a national programme of peat development whose main features are the annual production of around five million tonnes of fuel peat for use in electricity generating stations and briquette factories and sod peat and briquettes which are sold on the domestic market. It is this programme which provides the context for Bord na Móna's current activities at 21 locations around the country today, and it is the milled peat from this programme that is being used to increase the output and extend the existing electricity generating stations at Shannonbridge, County Offaly, Lanesboro, County Longford, and the power station at Bellacorick. Additional sod peat under the programme will be used to offset to some extent the reduction in output from existing sod peat bogs as they become cut out.

The programme also provides for a major increase in horticultural production. Export sales of horticultural peat of the order of £12 million made a useful contribution to the revenue of Bord na Móna and our balance of payments last year.

Bord na Móna are a major industry employing 6,234 persons on average throughout the year. Apart from providing employment directly, the programme also generates spin-off employment in engineering construction and allied industries. The consequence of this on the economy in the catchment areas of all the board's enterprises has been substantial.

Deputy Reynolds has asked about cutaway bogs. The position is there will be 10,000 acres available by 1990, and by the year 2000 a further 20,000 acres. The area is mainly in Kildare and Offaly with a further 5,000 acres in the western counties of blanket peatland which could be used only for coniferous forestry. Over the past ten years Bord na Móna have been applying research to pilot scale developments in conjunction with the Forestry and Wildlife Service and An Foras Talúntais.

The work of the committee is necessarily slow in that they have to monitor application of the information received from technical studies to actual experiments. Results to date show that the most attractive options are forestry and agriculture and very significant area will be made available for these. The technical, scientific and economic results are to hand. Cost input models are being put together by Bord na Móna and will be into the Department within two months. It will be necessary to look at the wider issues of funding and the sociological aspects of ownership before a final report can be issued.

Bord na Móna are a very successful company but also a very vulnerable one. Harvesting is subject to weather conditions and year to year fluctuations in output occur primarily because of weather conditions during the drying season, which causes substantial stocks to be carried. Land acquisition is a very slow process. Essential lengthy processes of drainage and development mean that there is a lead-in time of up to seven years before a bog can come into production. The outlay on these can create a very heavy burden on the board's finances. Most important too is the fact that the source of about a half of Bord na Móna's revenue comes from the ESB where peat faces severe competition from imported oil. Since the mid-seventies Bord na Móna have spent £78 million on this programme and have proposals to spend a further £82 million to complete the programme in about three years' time.

In the early years of the third programme the Exchequer financed by way of repayable advances the bulk of Bord na Móna's capital requirements. Since 1978, however, when the Fianna Fáil Government rejected the suggestion of Bord na Móna that the interest on these advances should not be waived for a further five years, Bord na Móna had to meet the expenditure on their development programme and related capital charges mainly by borrowing. This cutting off of Exchequer advances combined with withholding, delaying or reducing increases recommended by the National Prices Commission on an allowable costs basis which was the short-sighted Fianna Fáil policy during the seventies, expressed through the action of the then Minister for Energy, created the seeds of Bord na Móna's problems and caused a very heavy burden of debt to build up which put severe financial strain on Bord na Móna.

It was only when the last Coalition Government took office in 1981 and it was seen that the board were not in a position to remunerate their capital borrowings that a review was undertaken, in conjunction with the board, of their financial needs in the context of their development programme. This was the first attempt to come to terms with the fact that the only revenue available to Bord na Móna must come from the sale of their products and that to continue the policy of restraint on prices which had been practised by the previous Government would mean that further finances would not be available from lending institutions and the entire development programme would be jeopardised. This review was continued in 1982 by the incoming Fianna Fáil Government and I am glad to say resulted in the four phased market price increase. Such a large increase would, of course, not have been needed if realistic increases had been introduced gradually over the years.

A considerable improvement was expected in the board's finances from the implementation of the four phased price increase. Based on certain assumptions at this stage, the board's financial projections showed that they could implement a capital programme which included a 150,000 tonne per annum briquette factory at Ballyforan while meeting the capital charges which the programme would incur. The principal assumptions were that all planned production would be sold at certain prices and that such prices would keep pace with inflation. It was soon evident, however, that the financial projections in relation to Ballyforan were too tight and that even with the implementation of full energy-related pricing further assistance would be needed if the factory project was to go ahead. The only promise of extra assistance was a grant of £3 million approved in principle by the IDA and perhaps some assistance from the EEC, which given the state of EEC finances at present, could not be counted upon. The IDA grant approval was not based on a totally independent assessment of the project, as the Opposition Deputies would like to suggest but, as I have said, a grant in principle based on the number of jobs envisaged from the project; it necessarily relied on some of the projections made by Bord na Móna.

Early in 1983, in the face of continuing board anxiety over funding and revised projections which showed that the costs of the Ballyforan project had now escalated to £48.2 million, the Minister for Industry and Energy, Deputy John Bruton, initiated a review of the Ballyforan project. The initial review had been into the board's financial position, and the price increases which followed had strengthened that position. The purpose of the second review was to assess the viability of the project itself and to examine the major cost elements involved. The increased cost of the project would involve a higher level of borrowing by Bord na Móna and it was necessary for the Government to be satisfied that expenditure on this project would ensure a better return to the community. The Government have the ultimate responsibility where very large capital expenditure is involved and it is only right that before any investment proposal is approved it must demonstrate a reasonable probability of success. At a time of high public sector borrowing, as now, there must be greater reluctance by the State to approve investment projects which do not offer reasonable return. The Opposition Deputies have deplored the time taken over this review. I would remind them if the analysis and review of projects in the past had been more exacting, there might be fewer white elephants today.

The Minister is on dangerous ground.

There will be one in Derryfadda.

The Minister should be allowed continue.

The black hole would pay for most of it.

I would ask Deputies to respect the board's assessment that this project must be assessed by them as viable, or the board cannot proceed with it. Otherwise it could threaten the very solvency of the board. This is a matter that must be considered. Much has been made of the surplus of £15.9 million shown in the 1982-83 annual accounts. This was merely a trading profit which had to be used for the partial clearing of an outstanding overdraft. Borrowings to date amount to £102 million and annual interest on outstanding loans costs Bord na Móna £12 million or 14 per cent of revenue annually. The 1983-84 annual accounts are expected to show a profit of £13 million approximately. In 1984-85 because of reduced volume expectations and price projections down on previous estimates, coupled with increased costs, the outturn is expected to be a breakeven position with no surplus for debt servicing.

The board are being realistic, difficult as that decision was for them. Real difficulties came to a head in the last year for Bord na Móna. With the slowing up of oil prices in the two year period the board could not apply any increase to the price of milled peat to the ESB. But Bord na Móna's costs did not stop because of that. On the domestic scene, that is, turf and briquettes, following on years' experience of a phased increase in the price of briquettes the fact emerged that demand had fallen and that competition was intense and the price appeared too high. A new briquette factory at Littleton had come into production and as a result briquettes had been on unrestricted supply for the first time. The market reaction, with consumers pressed by the recession and sensitive to home heating bills, sent out clear warning signals. At present the level of briquette sales are significantly lower than they were at the same time last year and correspondingly stock levels are appreciably higher. The board had no option but to think further. To their credit they have done this. There has been not a trace of ministerial or Government pressure. I reject outright Deputy Reynolds' suggestion on that. The Tánaiste, myself, the Government and all sides of this House want a successful Ballyforan, not a failure or a financial morass.

Part of the rationale for Ballyforan was that its production would compensate for the decline in Bord na Móna's machine turf production which was envisaged as the older sod peat bogs became worked out. In fact, the substitute has been an upsurge in privately-produced turf. Privately-produced turf has increased since the beginning of the Private Bog Development Scheme in 1981 to 500,000 tonnes in 1983 as a result of the grant scheme and the advent of small turf-cutting machines. The effect of the increased competition from coal and private turf has meant that the price of Bord na Móna baled briquettes were £7.20 a tonne lower than projected. In the case of sod peat the price was lower by £8 per tonne. This means that the present price of briquettes is £48.80 per tonne against a projected price of £56 per tonne and the present price of sod peat is £29.50 per tonne against the projected price of £37.50 per tonne. In the light of this it is hard to take seriously Opposition Deputies' charges that the market is flooded with German briquettes and that consumers would be much happier to buy Bord na Móna briquettes if these were available.

It was very necessary that Fianna Fáil should table this motion because we are anxious to prod the Coalition into taking some action, first, to build the briquette factory at Derryfadda and, secondly, to develop the bogs to the maximum. In October or November last we discussed here the ESB's strategic plan, a plan that would have farreaching effects throughout the country but especially in the midlands. However, so far as we are aware no action in that regard has been taken at Government level. In answer to a parliamentary question the Minister for Energy told us he had instructed the ESB to cancel their arrangements for further development at Moneypoint but the following day he told us he had not done so. This incompetent Government, not knowing whether they are coming or going, were not in a position to tell the ESB to cancel their grandiose plans for Moneypoint but have been able to tell Bord na Móna to stop work at Ballyforan.

The Minister of State spent a good deal of his time telling us about borrowing requirements. I expect that in this respect £800 million is involved in the Moneypoint project, but it is well to remind ourselves that out of every pound we pay towards our ESB bills, 25p goes to pay interest on borrowing. Apparently there is one rule for the ESB and another for Bord na Móna. So far as Derryfadda is concerned the attitude of this Government is the méar fada. They adopted the same attitude in relation to the LaoisOffaly by-election in an attempt to save face for a few more weeks but the day of reckoning is very close. The people will then have their say.

The wording in the amendment tabled by the Minister is laughable. The only full examination undertaken by the Coalition of this issue was a political examination, an examination of their dwindling prospects and of how they might put off the evil day when, like previous Coalitions, they will disappear, just as the £500 million has disappeared down the black hole.

One would not need to be an economist to realise that the utilisation of national resources is no more than commonsense. In the forties there were set up the Turf Development Board and they were succeeded by Bord na Móna. The board have not been stagnant. They have been very inventive. Indeed, people from other countries, including Russia, have come here to learn our latest technical know-how in turf production. We have reason to be proud of the board and of those excellent people who have been employed on the bogs. A Fine Gael Minister for Finance in a former Government said that the Allenwood station would be no more than a white elephant. So far as the people of Kildare are concerned it was a lily-white success. It has provided a lot of employment for many years.

Briquettes are still good value. They were so much in demand at one stage that a quota system had to be introduced. The public demand for this commodity will not be met by reducing the output. Consequently, there is a need for a factory at Ballyforan. When Fianna Fáil were in Government the price of briquettes at the tiphead was such as to enable the middleman to make a handsome profit on the resale of the briquettes to the public. Though Fianna Fáil sanctioned a price increase, this form of fuel continued to be good value for money. There are figures to prove conclusively that turf is still the cheapest way of cooking and also of heating the average house. The extra income that was to be generated by Bord na Móna was to enable them to expand and to undertake such projects as the Derryfadda factory. This factory would enable a whole new track of bog to come into production and would allow for a continuous supply of turf as well as a continuation of employment after the midlands bogs have been used up, probably at the turn of the century.

Even in town and city homes there is a demand for turf and briquettes because in those homes where there is only very limited storage space this fuel is easily stored in addition to being clean.

It was suggested to the Irish people once that they burn everything British except British coal but who would ever have thought that we would have had a Government who would have allowed a conscious decision to burn foreign coal instead of Irish turf? One might ask why the Government have to wait so long before announcing that the turf-burning electricity stations should remain open. It is because they are ditherers and procrastinators. A very enticing carrot was dangled by the ESB before the workers to encourage them to accept voluntary redundancy and closure of the peat stations. The Government may have thought that that carrot was too nice to be refused. However, to the credit of the members of the unions, both in the ESB and in Bord na Móna, they stood four square behind one another and the country and their protest march to Leinster House some weeks ago proved where their allegiance lay. Those people had no doubt that they wanted the dignity of work and not the despair of the the dole. It is obvious that this week's decision rejecting the ESB's strategic plan is a reluctant, eleventh hour stop-gap proposal of a Government who have realised what the midlanders think of their incompetence.

We want somebody at some level to remove any doubt about the future of our bogs. We want to see them utilised to the ultimate as a means of providing energy, whether milled peat, sod peat or briquettes. We want our own people encouraged to utilise our native fuel and thus ensure that in an emergency we shall be self-sufficient. Whether there is a war brewing in the Middle East, shelling in the Gulf, or cooling of relationships between East and West, we do not want to wonder where the next spark will come from. In many remote rural areas the ESB and Bord na Móna are the only employers. They brought prosperity where there was despair. Many a midland parish in Kildare, Laois, Offaly and all over the midlands would be still boggy and the economic outlook still foggy only for the far-seeing pioneers and willing workers who gave their lives to provide the jobs which are there today.

If we had a decent Government they would not confine their thinking to today. They would look a little further than June 14. The new generation in those areas want to learn about tomorrow. We must plan ahead and continue with our agricultural and horticultural projects which have been already successful in cutaway bogs. We must ensure that industries will be based in these areas to provide alternative employment for our young people there. The processing of vegetables on cutaway bogs appears to offer great possibilities and the technical training and engineering skills of the workforce already employed by Bord na Móna and the ESB in these areas give a wide scope and range of possible industries to take up the slack when the bogs run out.

Peat moss production is important for the export market. On a recent visit to the Isle of Man one of the nicest things I saw was Irish peat moss being used extensively. Did anyone consider that briquettes might be exported also? There is a great plan for the flooding of cutaway bogs in the Allenwood area to connect up with the Grand Canal and provide a tourist attraction with fishing, sailing, boating, wildlife sanctuaries and other kindred attractions. These amenities would be within an hour's drive from Dublin.

We want the Government to be serious about the development of our bogs, to realise their wealth and utilise it for the good of the nation, as any sensible Government should. Above all, we want the Government to show some social conscience and care for the people, to show the respect for the workers who made the bogs blossom and to give hope to the next generation that they will be able to earn a living in a country which was made prosperous by the toil of previous generations.

The attitude of the Government is shown tonight in their callous rejection of our motion. Fine Gael and Labour are not the parties to give the people the respect which they deserve and the hope they need.

The Deputy's time is up.

It is vital for us to press our motion to a vote tonight, so that people in the Coalition can stand up and be counted and be seen to be by the people concerned.

The announcement last night by the Minister for Energy, Deputy Spring, came as a complete bombshell to the people of Ballyforan and the surrounding areas. It has cast over them a shadow of gloom and doom. The counties of Roscommon and Galway are now seriously affected by this decision.

I happened to be in Ballyforan last night when the decision was announced in the Dáil and saw how the loss of this major project would affect the opportunities for young people in the area. The whole area of Derryfadda, once a bog of hope, has been turned into a desert of despair. The loss of in the region of 50 to 60 jobs has now been initiated by Bord na Móna in the Derryfadda group of bogs and I regret this very much. As a result of the decision by this Government, there is, straightaway, this direct loss of permanent jobs in a very deprived area of the constituencies of Roscommon-East Galway and of East Galway itself. The effects of this decision by an uncaring, callous Government are already in train. This is a Government who gave a firm commitment to build this briquette factory in Ballyforan and to carry on the policy which we commenced in November 1982, when the foundation was dug for this project and it was under way. We were and are totally committed to this project. This Government have made a decision which has been a major blow to the people of the area. We now wonder what will be the next step. The first effects are now directly influencing actual bog development. People like fitters and office staff are now being deprived of their jobs. Unions are being notified by the management of Bord na Móna of the Government decision in relation to this briquette factory.

The question of developing new bogs and of promoting the land which has been acquired for development is now under threat as well. The 156 jobs at present in the Derryfadda workshops and on the bogs are now in jeopardy. The target for 1984 is to produce 135,000 tonnes of milled peat and the total stockpile at the end of 1984 would be 200,000 tonnes. What will become of that stockpile without a briquette factory? The major outlet —— and, I believe, the only real outlet — for milled peat in that area is the provision of a briquette factory in Ballyforan. We believe that, which is why we initiated the present project. That is why a sum of £5 million has already been spent on the actual site works which will allow the erection of the factory. The money which has already been spent will be wasted unless the project is completed. It is essential that this Government agree with our motion. The motion before this House calls on the Government to proceed immediately with the building of a new briquette factory at Derryfadda, Ballyforan. I am asking all Deputies in this House, on both sides of the political divide, to leave aside their political affiliations and in this instance to work for their own area and support it. Remember that the people of Ballyforan and the surrounding districts sent Deputies here, not just to back up the political parties but to support their areas. I regret that Deputies who were so vocal when in Opposition now in Government are silent in not supporting the people of the Ballyforan area.

The work which has already proceeded has made an enormous impact on that area. The fact that so many young people have been given the opportunity of work must be regarded as a major breakthrough in that whole region.

When I was first elected in 1977 to the area of south Roscommon and the constituency of Roscommon-Leitrim I knew straight away that there had to be major development in the western and southern area of the constituency and, in particular, in the area of Ballyforan which had never received any assistance whatsoever in relation to development. It was a priority area as far as I was concerned and one golden opportunity was that the bogs which had held back the people for so long would now be utilised to provide jobs. The total money already spent on the development of the Derryfadda group of bogs is in the region of £12 million. This expenditure will be lost unless the briquette factory proceeds.

I ask the Minister to come up with a decision in favour of this project. Last night he announced a decision against it and it had taken about 18 months for that decision to be made. In that period this project became less viable because of the delays. Every year the cost of the project has increased. A decision by the Government now to postpone it for 12 months has put the whole project in jeopardy. Nobody in the area believes that the Government have any serious intentions in relation to this project.

It was a Bórd na Móna decision.

It was a Government decision. I will quote what the Minister of State, Deputy Paul Connaughton, said at a public meeting on Good Friday evening in Ballyforan. He stated that it was a Government decision and the Government must carry the can. Other Deputies in the House were there and heard the Minister of State say that quite clearly.

(Interruptions.)

Would the Minister of State not try to pass the buck? It is the meanest trick of all.

It was Good Friday last, 20 April 1984 when the Minister of State said this to a packed hall in Ballyforan. He confirmed at that meeting that the decision would be a political one. That was supported by Deputy Naughten.

We all know that.

The Deputy stated that the Minister for Energy was in favour of the project. The Minister of State, Deputy Connaughton, said that the Taoiseach was very interested in the project, had expressed concern and wanted to know the outcome of the meeting at Ballyforan on that particular night. We now know the interest he has in that particular area. The Minister of State agreed that the Deputies and Senators would have a meeting with the Taoiseach to discuss this project. That meeting never took place. He also agreed to arrange a meeting with the Minister for Energy to discuss the project. On 15 May 1984 a meeting was arranged at 3 o'clock but the Minister for Energy became ill, unfortunately and was removed from the building. That meeting was never rearranged by the Minister of State or the Deputy for the Roscommon constituency when we would have had an opportunity of debating around the table exactly what the position is. That is why Fianna Fáil decided, because we were not given an opportunity to discuss this matter, that we would place this motion before the House to find out exactly what the position is in relation to this particular project.

I told the Deputy.

The Minister of State stated clearly that it is a Government decision. Deputy Reynolds was Minister for Energy and he informed me on 25 September 1982 as follows:

Further to your representations regarding the Ballyforan briquette factory I am informed by Bord na Móna that the construction schedule for the factory is as follows:

September 1982, site preparation commenced and contract awarded.

December 1982, order for boiler and turbo alternator to be placed.

Early 1983, civil engineering contract to go to tender.

Late 1983, mechanical contract to go to tender.

November 1983, boiler to be delivered.

February 1984, turbo alternator to be delivered.

February 1985, factory to be commissioned.

I might also mention that I am scheduled to perform the official sod turning ceremony on Friday, 5 November next.

That was long before there was a question of a general election.

(Interruptions.)

Deputy Leyden without interruption.

The projected employment level in the factory when completed was 110 jobs but those have now gone. There were to be 180 jobs during the construction period. The loss of those 110 jobs means that 550 people were depending on those jobs in that area. Roscommon County Council provided sewerage, water and housing in the Ballyforan area and Galway County Council provided roads to the briquette factory in Ballyforan. The Government are destroying the whole fabric of the Roscommon-East Galway area. They have now made the biggest decision against this region.

It is a Bord na Móna decision.

It is a Fine Gael Government decision with the Minister for Energy, a so-called socialist Labour Minister. Nobody in Ballyforan believes it. I am telling Deputy Naughten not to go down to Ballyforan. The Minister of State, Deputy Connaughton, and Deputy Naughten are not welcome in that area because they have let down the people of the area by backing this Government decision. I hope the Deputy will now decide to support our motion. I would like to remind Deputy Naughten that on 26 May 1982 he said in the Dáil:

We stated clearly that the project would go ahead.

The Deputy has let down the people of the region of Roscommon-East Galway. I am not leaving out Senator Connor. Neither he nor Deputy Naughten is prepared to stand up and speak for the people of Roscommon and Galway East. Fianna Fáil made it possible for this project to to ahead. Deputy Naughten and the other Government Deputies from that constituency are letting down the people who voted for them. It is a shame that they are prepared to go along with this corrupt Coalition Government who are not able to balance their books, who have lost £500 million. This money has been robbed from the people.

The Government have now decided that this project in Ballyforan will not go ahead. We call on them to go ahead with the project and we call on the Deputies who represent the constituencies of Roscommon and Galway East to come into the House and vote for this project. If they vote against it they will have to go back to their constituents and explain their stand in relation to this. I have been involved in initiating this project from the first day. I backed it all the way and will continue to do so. The people of Ballyforan know that if Fianna Fáil were in Government now this project would be completed and would be opened in the next few weeks. They will soon see the position they are in. The Fine Gael Coalition Government do not care for the people of Roscommon or Galway East. They are not concerned about employment down there. They have shown they are not prepared to put investment down there. We are asking the Deputies opposite to support this motion tonight, back this project and the people will not let them down.

I am glad to have the opportunity to say a few words in this important debate. After listening to Deputy Leyden and his wild allegations I would like to remind him that it is Bord na Móna who have made this decision not the Government. The political appointees of that board are all Fianna Fáil and I defy contradiction on that. They were appointed by Deputy O'Malley and Deputy Reynolds. These are the people who have made the decision to deprive the people of Ballyforan of a briquette factory. There is great disappointment in Ballyforan at the decision taken by the board on 25 May. Since the erection of a power station in Ballyforan was first envisaged in 1974 the people of the area looked forward to full employment in and around the area. The farmers in that area sold their bogs, Gowla Farm was taken over and some of the workers got employment in Bord na Móna.

Forestry and vast tracts of bog were taken over by Bord na Móna with the intention of building a briquette factory or a power station. Later the plan to build a power station was changed and a major station was built at Moneypoint. It was decided to build a briquette factory and this decision was welcomed by the people of the area. Vast sums of money have been spent by Bord na Móna on drainage and reclamation, clearing the bogs and getting them right for development. A lot of money has been spent on site development. The 1982 Fianna Fáil election campaign was launched at that site at the taxpayers' expense.

(Interruptions.)

This is the reality. Bord na Móna were used by the then Government to launch their election campaign, turning a sod on a site in Ballyforan when no contract had been signed.

I very much regret the decision which has now been taken by Bord na Móna. I believe it is an irresponsible decision by a semi-State body who have spent vast sums in the area. The Irish people are entitled to know why a semi-State body should spend £20 million on a project and then decide to cancel it. It is extremely serious.

The management of Bord na Móna has been deplorable over the past few years. Certain work practices and other features have been introduced which have cost the board substantial sums of money and have led to downright bad management. As recently as six weeks ago they were talking about deferring the building of a briquette factory in Ballyforan. Some two weeks later they informed the manager and the workers there that they were going into full production and overtime was worked on Saturdays and Sundays. Yesterday they told the same workers that they were to be made redundant. We are entitled to an explanation from Bord na Móna so that we can know precisely what their views are. It is not good enough for them to make a decision deferring this project for 12 months. They are putting the future of many workers in jeopardy. Some of these workers have bought houses in the area and have heavy loan commitments. Some have come back from England and others have left jobs in Dublin and elsewhere to settle at home. There has been massive investment by both Galway and Roscommon County Councils.

It is regrettable that Bord na Móna have made this decision and I appeal to the Minister to ask them to reconsider. It is of vital interest to the people of the area that the project should get under way. Having invested £20 million there the board owe it to the Irish people to go ahead and build the briquette factory, to employ new technology and new ideas and to go out and sell their product. It is surely a sad reflection on the board that they are not able to develop the bogs. We have a high number of people who are unemployed and we are importing coal and German briquettes. It is a scandal that a semi-State body cannot utilise the peat reserves, create jobs and prevent imports. The Minister should request the board to reconsider their decision. If they do not, they should take the only honourable step open to them and resign. If they do not resign they should be dismissed.

I can understand the whiteness in the face and the funny feelings in Deputy Naughten's stomach as he faces the thought of going home to the people of Ballyforan. It is scraping the barrel for him and his party to denigrate the members of the board of Bord na Móna. During my term of office I met the chairman of the board. I do not know the political views of these people and I am not interested in finding out. I stand over every appointment I made to the boards of semi-State bodies and I want no cheap allegations from any Deputy against people who give of their time for a lousy few hundred pounds a year to serve on these boards. I will be surprised if the Minister and the Minister of State do not ask Deputy Naughten to apologise publicly to the members of the board of Bord na Móna for the scandalous things he has said. He has tried to indict the management of Bord na Móna. I heard nothing from his lips about indicting the handling of Bord na Móna by this Coalition Government or the previous Coalition.

The Deputy was happy to join the Minister of State in Ballyforan and say there was great news for the area because the project was going ahead. In May 1982 Deputy Naughten challenged me to state the position clearly, which I did. He said:

We stated clearly that the project would go ahead. This was re-iterated by the Minister of State at the Department of Posts and Telegraphs when speaking in the area.

That is what the Deputy said about his party when there were in Government in 1981. Does he want me to tell him what they did that year? They have been stopping this project from the time it started.

That is not true.

The Government knew the financial position of Bord na Móna and tried to trick the people of Galway East and Roscommon by putting a figure in the capital programme when the Minister and the Government knew they could not borrow a single shilling because their financial position was such that they could not remunerate the capital they had already borrowed. The Coalition Government of 1981 were not prepared to take the politically unpopular decision to rectify the financial position of Bord na Móna. They have been going back over the years saying what Fianna Fáil did; but I am not interested in what was happening ten years ago, although I would be glad to argue the record. The Coalition Government in the years 1973 to 1977 initiated several projects. There was an over-expenditure of £100 million by NET but there is no talk about the bad financial management in those days. The Government have now lost £500 million in a black hole and they have the audacity and the hard neck to come in here and preach financial rectitude. They talk about the reckless approach by Fianna Fáil. Only today I raised at Question Time over-expenditure of three times the original cost on a building for the Institute for Industrial Research and Standards. Who initiated the inquiry? The Minister had to admit that I did so.

The facts are that the Coalition ran away from rectifying the financial position of Bord na Móna in 1981 when they could not borrow from the European Investment Bank or the commercial banks. I took up the matter with the Fianna Fáil Government in 1982 and took the politically unpopular decision to rectify it so that the development of our peatlands and the project in Ballyforan could go ahead and Bord na Móna could remunerate their capital borrowings.

Bord na Móna carried out a review in 1982 and told the Government that the project was all right. It was assessed by the IDA and the Minister is stooping very low in saying that it was not carried out on an independent basis. What are they trying to do to the semi-State organisations? Are they saying to this House that the IDA are not capable of analysing a project? If they did not think it was viable they would not have approved in principle the grant of £3 million. The IDA do not do their business in that way. They have a failure rate of only 7½ per cent but yet the Minister questions their judgment with regard to analysing the project. It was a disgraceful action on the part of the Government.

What has happened with regard to the review? If I had someone working for me who was not able to analyse the viability of a project in one month, never mind 18 months, I would not have him around for a week. What kind of Government have we who carry out review after review and who are finally driven to make a decision because the Opposition put down a motion in Private Members' time? What were the Government doing for 18 months? What kind of analysis was carried out? Within a matter of weeks after they came to office they stopped the project despite the fact that Bord na Móna had carried out an analysis and were going ahead with the work. Up to 4 o'clock yesterday Bord na Móna continued to spend money on the project. It was at that time yesterday afternoon that the management called in workers and told them there would be a lay-off of men. The work went ahead while the Government spoke about a review. If the Government were responsible and were interested in saving the taxpayers' money, why did they not tell Bord na Móna before this to stop work on the project? Why let them go ahead and produce between 150,000 and 200,000 tonnes of milled peat, stacked higher than this building in the bogs of Derryfadda? The Government need not trot out the nonsense that this is not a political decision. Of course it is.

When I opened the debate last night I asked what kind of analysis was carried out and I was given vague references with regard to market changes and so on. Bord na Móna were set up by virtue of an Act of the Oireachtas in 1946 to develop the peatlands and to create jobs. The Government took account only of a narrow economic analysis and they used this as an excuse to get rid of the project. Did they take account of the return to the national economy? Did they take into account the imports of coal and German briquettes? The Minister of State scoffs at the idea and tells us this is not the position but I invite him to come to Longford or Westmeath where he will see plenty of German briquettes on sale. After all the fine work of Bord na Móna, are they supposed to sit back and let the Germans take their market? This is the kind of defeatist attitude that has been enunciated daily by spokespeople of this Government.

I am amazed that the leader of the Labour Party has allowed a narrow economic analysis to be carried out in connection with this project. The Government did not take into consideration the imports that could have been avoided, the money that will have to be paid by way of dole and the interest that will have to be paid on the £20 million already spent on the project. Why was the project allowed to get to this stage? Do the Government realise that when a project is delayed for 18 months building costs and inflation represent major additional charges? The Government stand indicted before the taxpayers and the general public for their mishandling of this and other projects.

The Government talk a lot about investment in projects but only a few weeks ago I was obliged to put down a motion regarding the money put into the Dublin Gas deal. In that instance also the Minister for Energy answered for the Government. The Government told us they got a great deal, far better than anything Fianna Fáil could achieve. They put an extra £47 million into Dublin Gas. There was no trouble about that because it was connected with Pale politics, with Dublin 4 and all that goes with that. The Government have no concern for the midlands or the west. They never had and they never will have, but I promise them they will get their answer in Laois-Offaly on 14 June. They will also get their answer the first time they go to the west of Ireland or any other part of the country.

Where is the great reliance on financial rectitude now? It is gone out the window or even down the black hole. How much is this Bord na Móna project out of line on a strictly commercial basis? I have not been given that answer yet. I warn the Minister and the Government that if this motion is not carried I will put down a request at the Committee on State-Sponsored Bodies to have the full facts put on the table. We will not rest behind vague ministerial scripts. This House and the people are entitled to know what went wrong with this project. If there are deficiencies in Bord na Móna let us know about them.

The Government are trying to cover up their inactivity on this matter in the past 18 months. The Minister smiles at this and that is quite incredible: I know Deputy Naughten is not smiling and I do not see the Minister of State, Deputy Connaughton, in the House. He is the man who represented the Government in Ballyforan, the man who said this Government never give reckless promises or commitments. We could write a book about them and sooner or later I will get an opportunity in this House to list them one after the other.

The Government will do anything to get themselves out of a tight corner. Some six or eight weeks ago in this House I tried to find out what will be the future of the power stations in the midlands but I got no reply. I made a forecast then that we would get a response during the Laois-Offaly by-election campaign and I am sure that will happen. I do not care who makes the announcement. There may be a dispute between the Tánaiste and the Taoiseach as to who delivers the occasional bit of good news. Let the Minister hold on to his rightful place in the Department of Energy and make the announcement. The Taoiseach has no right to say he will take that good news from him. The Minister is entitled to it because he has to build up the flagging hopes and fortunes of the Labour Party.

The Minister for Energy made a great fanfare announcement about the National Development Corporation but, unfortunately, the Minister for Industry, Trade, Commerce and Tourism, Deputy Bruton, stole the show the night before. I ask the Minister what this corporation will do.

It is already there.

The Deputy did not sign the Forum report. He is welcome back from foreign places. I will address the Deputy when he tells me why he did not sign the Forum report.

The corporation is already in place.

I want to put a question to the Minister and I know it will be of interest to Deputy Kelly also. The Deputy and I are of one mind on this because he does not believe in the concept of the National Development Corporation any more than I do.

What big word did the Deputy not understand?

I want to know what projects will be undertaken by the corporation.

The Deputy's party created it.

We did not set up the National Development Corporation and I am on record in this House as saying it is only another layer of bureaucracy. Will the Minister tell me what kind of projects the corporation will take on board——

(Interruptions.)

Deputy Kelly only came into the House quite recently. He has a lovely tan and obviously he enjoyed his trip to Germany. I hope he wrote a few books when he was over there, as good as the one I read a long time ago. When he gets an opportunity, will he tell us if he will sign the Forum report? The Minister might like to tell me at the first opportunity the kinds of projects the National Development Corporation will take on board. If they consider any project it will have to be connected with the development of our natural resources, to which the Labour Party are supposed to be committed. Here is a project based on such a development which, as the Minister said, has a slight risk attached to it.

The Deputy would not be in this House——

(Interruptions.)

Deputy Kelly does not believe in the National Development Corporation and I do not believe in it but there are people sitting on those benches who believe in it. Again, I ask the Minister is it not the case that there are risks attached to any project? Many proposals appear gilt-edged on paper but they do not turn out so well; but others that may not appear promising at first turn out very well. If the Minister and the Government are going to make any use of the National Development Corporation, which I doubt, they will have to take on board projects like the Ballyforan project which carries a slight risk. I do not deny that there is a risk. If we believe in ourselves in relation to the development of our national resources we can produce and market a product which is far superior to the imported goods.

I should also like the Deputies to bear in mind the mark up which is on peat briquettes when one considers the miserly figure which Bord na Móna get for them. The middle man is getting a mark up of 150 per cent and it is obvious that there is a marketing problem. Twenty million pounds worth of taxpayers' money should not be lying in the west unused and the Minister should not consign another 400 or 500 people to the dole queue there. That has been the philosophy of this Government since they came to office and I hope that the Deputies from that area will take their courage in their hands, vote for the motion and show that they represent the people of Roscommon.

Amendment put.
The Dáil divided: Tá, 75; Níl, 62.

  • Allen, Bernard.
  • Barnes, Monica.
  • Barrett, Seán.
  • Barry, Myra.
  • Barry, Peter.
  • Begley, Michael.
  • Bermingham, Joe.
  • Birmingham, George Martin.
  • Cooney, Patrick Mark.
  • Cosgrave, Liam T.
  • Cosgrave, Michael Joe.
  • Coveney, Hugh.
  • Creed, Donal.
  • Crotty, Kieran.
  • Crowley, Frank.
  • D'Arcy, Michael.
  • Deasy, Martin Austin.
  • Desmond, Barry.
  • Donnellan, John.
  • Dowling, Dick.
  • Doyle, Avril.
  • Doyle, Joe.
  • Durkan, Bernard J.
  • Farrelly, John V.
  • Fennell, Nuala.
  • FitzGerald, Garret.
  • Flaherty, Mary.
  • Glenn, Alice.
  • Griffin, Brendan.
  • Harte, Patrick D.
  • Hegarty, Paddy.
  • Hussey, Gemma.
  • Kavanagh, Liam.
  • Keating, Michael.
  • Kelly, John.
  • Kenny, Enda.
  • L'Estrange, Gerry.
  • McGahon, Brendan.
  • Boland, John.
  • Bruton, John.
  • Bruton, Richard.
  • Burke, Liam.
  • Carey, Donal.
  • Collins, Edward.
  • Conlon, John F.
  • Connaughton, Paul.
  • Coogan, Fintan.
  • McGinley, Dinny.
  • McLoughlin, Frank.
  • Manning, Maurice.
  • Mitchell, Gay.
  • Mitchell, Jim.
  • Molony, David.
  • Moynihan, Michael.
  • Naughten, Liam.
  • Nealon, Ted.
  • Noonan, Michael.
  • (Limerick East)
  • O'Brien, Fergus.
  • O'Brien, Willie.
  • O'Keeffe, Jim.
  • O'Leary, Michael.
  • O'Toole, Paddy.
  • Pattison, Séamus.
  • Prendergast, Frank.
  • Quinn, Ruairí.
  • Ryan, John.
  • Shatter, Alan.
  • Sheehan, Patrick Joseph.
  • Skelly, Liam.
  • Spring, Dick.
  • Taylor, Mervyn.
  • Taylor-Quinn, Madeline.
  • Timmins, Godfrey.
  • Treacy, Seán.
  • Yates, Ivan.

Níl

  • Ahern, Bertie.
  • Ahern, Michael.
  • Andrews, David.
  • Barrett, Michael.
  • Blaney, Neil Terence.
  • Brady, Gerard.
  • Brady, Vincent.
  • Brennan, Mattie.
  • Brennan, Séamus.
  • Briscoe, Ben.
  • Browne, John.
  • Burke, Raphael P.
  • Byrne, Hugh.
  • Byrne, Seán.
  • Calleary, Seán.
  • Collins, Gerard.
  • Conaghan, Hugh.
  • Coughlan, Cathal Seán.
  • Daly, Brendan.
  • De Rossa, Proinsias.
  • Fahey, Francis.
  • Fahey, Jackie.
  • Faulkner, Pádraig.
  • Fitzgerald, Liam Joseph.
  • Flynn, Pádraig.
  • Foley, Denis.
  • Gallagher, Denis.
  • Geoghegan-Quinn, Máire.
  • Harney, Mary.
  • Haughey, Charles J.
  • Hilliard, Colm.
  • Kirk, Séamus.
  • Kitt, Michael.
  • Lenihan, Brian.
  • Leonard, Jimmy.
  • Leonard, Tom.
  • Leyden, Terry.
  • Lyons, Denis.
  • McCarthy, Seán.
  • McCreevy, Charlie.
  • McEllistrim, Tom.
  • Molloy, Robert.
  • Morley, P.J.
  • Moynihan, Donal.
  • Nolan, M.J.
  • Noonan, Michael J.
  • (Limerick West)
  • O'Dea, William.
  • O'Hanlon, Rory.
  • O'Keeffe, Edmond.
  • O'Kennedy, Michael.
  • O'Leary, John.
  • Ormonde, Donal.
  • O'Rourke, Mary.
  • Power, Paddy.
  • Reynolds, Albert.
  • Treacy, Noel.
  • Wallace, Dan.
  • Walsh, Joe.
  • Walsh, Seán.
  • Wilson, John P.
  • Woods, Michael.
  • Wyse, Pearse.
  • Wyse, Pearse.
Tellers: Tá, Deputies Barrett (Dún Laoghaire) and Taylor; Níl, Deputies B. Ahern and Briscoe.
Question declared carried.
Motion, as amended, agreed to.
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