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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 5 Mar 1985

Vol. 356 No. 7

Local Elections (Postal Voting) (Amendment) Regulations, 1985: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann approves of the following regulations in draft:

Local Elections (Postal Voting) (Amendment) Regulations, 1985

a copy of which regulations in draft form was laid before Dáil Éireann on the 25th day of February, 1985.

These draft regulations are laid before the House in accordance with section 82 (5) of the Electoral Act, 1963, which provides that, where regulations under that section are proposed to be made, a draft thereof shall be laid before each House of the Oireachtas and that the regulations shall not be made until a resolution approving of the draft has been passed by each House.

Postal voting has been discussed by this House on a number of occasions in the past few years and Members will be familiar with the subject. It is not, therefore, necessary for me to detain the House unduly with a detailed outline of the background; I will be brief and deal only with essential points in this introductory statement.

As I have indicated to the House previously, I am having a Bill prepared which will provide for postal voting at all elections and referenda. The Bill, which takes account of the views expressed by Deputies and Senators in the various debates in both Houses and in the Joint Committee on Legislation, will entitle certain categories of persons to be registered in the register of electors as postal voters. Persons so registered will vote by post at any election which takes place during the currency of the register.

The registration of postal voters will be carried out as a normal part of the procedure of compiling the register of electors. This takes place between September and December each year and I will be bringing forward the legislation as soon as possible so as to ensure that the new system will be in place in time for the 1986 register. In the meantime, the draft regulations now before the House will bring the postal voting system to be used at the local elections in June into line as far as practicable with the permanent arrangements proposed under the Bill.

Postal voting for categories other than the Garda and the Defence Forces was introduced for the 1974 local elections by the Local Elections (Postal Voting) Regulations, 1974. Under those regulations, anybody who could not vote in person by reason of the circumstances of his occupation, service, or employment, absence from the place in respect of which he was registered as an elector, illness or physical disability, or his employment by a returning officer, could apply to vote by post.

The 1974 elections have been our only experiment with the extended postal voting system: it was not used for the local elections in 1979 because they were held with the European Assembly elections. It was considered that it would not be practicable to run two elections together with different postal voting systems.

From an administrative point of view the system worked satisfactorily in 1974 but many public representatives had reservations about the security of the system. Nevertheless, it is essential that those who, for genuine reasons, cannot vote in person should be catered for. What we are trying to do in these regulations therefore, and in the Bill, is to provide a system of postal voting which will minimise the risk of abuses, while continuing to provide a simple and accessible facility. I will now outline briefly the principal changes which the regulations will effect.

The regulations will effect changes in key areas — they will restrict somewhat the categories of persons who will qualify to vote by post; they will build safeguards into the application procedure, and they will improve the security of ballot papers being issued to voters.

Under the draft regulations the persons who will be entitled to vote by post at the local elections will be those who will be unable, or are likely to be unable, to vote in person by reason of (a) the circumstances of their occupation, service or employment, or (b) physical illness or physical disability. This is a narrower range of eligibility than applied in 1974 but I believe that those with a genuine claim to a postal vote will be catered for under the regulations. The electors being catered for are those recommended by the Joint Committee, except for diplomats and certain other categories resident abroad who cannot be registered as electors under existing law. These will be dealt with in the Bill.

The application procedure is also being tightened up. The time for making applications will be earlier — from 15 to 30 April. This takes the processing of applications out of the peak period of preelection activity and gives the returning officer the opportunity and time to thoroughly evaluate and investigate applications. In addition, applications will now have to be independently supported by a certificate from an employer or medical practitioner or by a statutory declaration where a person is self-employed. This will obviously impose a certain burden but we are satisfied that it is essential for the security of the electoral system. Finally, the returning officer will be empowered to seek additional information for the purpose of satisfying himself that an applicant is a qualified person and to reject an application where such information is not forthcoming.

The other area which has been identified as being open to abuse is the actual issue of ballot papers to voters by post. This, too, is being dealt with. Under the regulations, all ballot papers will be sent to voters by registered post. This means that a signature must be received by the postal authorities for every ballot paper entrusted to them for delivery, a procedure which should help considerably to ensure that the ballot papers get into the correct hands. It should also help to trace the culprits if ballot papers are interfered with.

That is all I wish to say about the regulations themselves. I believe that the controls we are proposing are the absolute minimum which we could accept if the security of the electoral system is to be protected. The facility of postal voting is a privilege; the position is that the Houses of the Oireachtas are being asked to extend this privilege to certain categories. The concession carries a risk of serious damage to the electoral system and there is the obligation to protect against that by all reasonable means. I think the regulations strike a reasonable balance between availability and control.

I ask the House to support the motion.

We in Fianna Fáil welcome this proposal. I would like to take this opportunity to compliment the Minister and his Minister of State for coming forward with this legislation, albeit a bit late.

Earlier we encouraged them to come forward with legislation to apply to all elections — general elections, European Parliament elections, local elections and referenda. Unfortunately, the Minister has delayed bringing forward regulations which could have been introduced in time for the European elections, but at least he has come forward with these draft regulations for the local elections which, we understand, will be held in June.

I welcome the announcement that the Minister is having a Bill prepared which will provide for postal voting at all elections and referenda. We look forward to extending the availability of the postal vote to those categories who, because of their circumstances either through illness or employment, have been denied the opportunity to participate in the electoral process. That is their right under the Constitution and they should not be denied that right when procedures can be devised to enable them to vote. We welcome the Government's commitment to bring forward a Bill at a later stage to extend this facility to general elections, other elections, referenda and so on. As the Minister said, we have had at least two major debates in this House on postal voting and I do not intend to go over the ground we have already covered. We welcome these regulations which provide the facility of a postal vote for those who wish to participate in the local elections next June, but we urge the Minister to bring forward as quickly as possible the Bill extending the scope of these regulations to other elections.

In our view the procedures being adopted are reasonable safeguards against the possibility of abuse. I compliment the Minister on the method he is adopting and will fully co-operate in ensuring that the section of the community who have not had the opportunity to participate in elections in recent years will be made aware of this facility and will be encouraged to avail of it. The returning officer will determine whether a person is entitled to a postal vote. He is the final arbiter under these regulations, but they do not set out the criteria he is to apply when deciding if a person will be granted the postal vote. Perhaps the Minister would elaborate on that. It will probably be left to the returning officers' commonsense. If a person applying for a postal vote is ill and a doctor signs a medical certificate, in most cases there will be no cause for the returning officer to question such a certificate but a self-employed person applying for a postal vote on the basis that he may not be in a position to attend at the polling station has to obtain the signature of a peace commissioner or a commissioner of oaths. I wonder why the signature of a commissioner of oaths is required when the signature of a peace commissioner is acceptable since there is a vast difference in the legislation establishing both offices. Would I be right in thinking that the commissioner of oaths may seek payment for his signature in certain circumstances whereas the peace commissioner is not entitled to charge for signing a document confirming that the person is the person mentioned in the document and that the circumstances were such as to justify him seeking a postal vote? What criteria will apply when examining these documents, especially in the case of a self-employed person? If a person says he expects to be busy on 7 June or 20 June, the date of the local elections, is that sufficient for the returning officer to grant him a postal vote?

I expect the wish of the House would be that the person would have to show that he will not be in a position to attend at the polling station because he has to travel a very long distance from his normal place of residence, and therefore he has a right to seek the postal vote. This is a very subjective matter. I ask the Minister to refer to this because he glanced over it in his introductory remarks and there are no conditions laid down in the regulations as printed.

The requirement that an application for a vote be forwarded by registered post and that the person must sign for the receipt of the envelope containing the ballot papers is a good safeguard. We hope that this question of postal voting will be regularised in the new Bill so that we will not have this type of ad hoc regulation from one local election to another. It would be preferable if a list of postal voters is drawn up at an early date on an annual basis when the local authorities are compiling the register. People should be required to make an application for a postal vote at that stage so that the list can be checked by members of the public and those participating in the election process so that an assurance can be given that the people compiling the list are genuinely complying with the regulations. These regulations introduced for the coming local elections are a vast improvement on the procedures for the 1974 election. The type of abuses that were alleged to have occurred on that occasion are catered for in these new regulations which will minimise the possibilities of abuse.

We will all observe this postal voting system carefully to see if it operates as satisfactorily as it would appear to. I compliment the Minister on these regulations and hope that the public who had not, up to now, the opportunity to vote will avail of these facilities. It would be tragic if the people for whom these regulations were introduced were not aware of their existence. Because of the short time left there is an obligation on the Government to bring the existence of these regulations to the notice of the public by way of public advertisement. I thank the Minister for bringing forward this Bill.

I, too, welcome the regulations providing for the extension of voting to disabled people particularly. For a long time there has been a demand for the extension of voting rights to people who were not able to go to a polling station. Some of the polling stations particularly those in rural Ireland cannot cater for people in wheelchairs who now will not be required to present themselves at a polling station to vote. In 1974 this facility was extended to a wider range of people than the range being catered for in this Bill and there were a number of abuses. I would not like to see those abuses recurring. The Minister has said that he has taken account of the objections and the allegations made in relation to the 1974 postal voting. We should have a definition in the Bill as to what constitutes physical disability. Would a person described by a doctor as being incapable of voting be considered as being disabled under the terms of this Bill? Some people will apply for a postal vote for another person who is incapable of voting. What will the situation be there? Circumstances of employment have been catered for and I take it that the Minister means that the people who will qualify for a postal vote will be normally resident outside the State or might find themselves outside of the State on business for a period before and after the election, if that can be established. The local elections will be held in June which is a time when many people go on holidays. Holidays are planned up to six months in advance and I would like to know if people on holidays will be covered by this Bill.

Having dealt with who will qualify for a postal vote it is important to ensure that the person who applies for the vote is the person who gets the vote and is the person responsible for signing the ballot paper. That will be the difficulty. Any postal voting system is open to a range of abuses. I urge the Minister to take every precaution to prevent abuses and to impose a sufficient penalty to deter people from abusing the law. The penalties should be spelled out clearly well in advance of the date of application for postal votes. One of the major defects in the postal voting system that applied to the 1974 election was that people could apply for voting papers a fortnight or three weeks in advance of the election. That is a time when the returning officer is extremely busy getting everything ready for the election.

Debate adjourned.
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