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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 2 Dec 1987

Vol. 376 No. 2

Written Answers. - Young Persons in Care.

62.

asked the Minister for Education in respect of each special residential school (details supplied) in the Dublin area (a) the total number of children or young persons in care or under detention on 30 June 1987 classified by the basis of their committal, (b) the number of new committals and the average daily occupancy during the year ending 30 June 1987, (c) the number of discharges and the immediate living arrangements of children or young people discharged, (d) the total number of staff employed in each centre on 30 June 1987 by grade and (e) the total cost of running the centre in the year ending 30 June 1987.

The figures required by the Deputy are not available at present for the year ending 30 June 1987. Details for the previous year are as follows:

(a) Number of young persons in care on 30 June 1986.

(a)

(b)

(c)

Special Schools

Committed Under the Children Acts

On Remand

Health Act

Total

Grand Total

Boys

Girls

Boys

Girls

Boys

Girls

Boys

Girls

St. Michael's, Finglas

13

4

17

17

St. Laurence's, Finglas

36

19

55

55

St. Joseph's, Clonmel

42

34

76

76

Trinity House, Lusk

28

2

30

30

Cuan Mhuire, Whitehall

2

4

6

6

Total

106

15

2

57

4

178

6

184

(b) New Committals and Average Daily Occupancy.

(i) Circumstances under which children were committed to care during the year ended 30 June 1986 under the Children Acts, 1908 to 1957:

Boys

Girls

Total

Indictable Offences

61

61

Non-attendance at School

4

4

Out of Parental Control

1

1

Total

66

66

(ii) Average Daily Occupancy during 1986

School

Average number of Young Persons

Finglas Children's Centre, Dublin 11

56

St. Joseph's Special School, Clonmel

75

Trinity House School, Lusk

24

Cuan Mhuire Assessment Unit, Whitehall

5

(c) Number of discharges and their living arrangements.

Destination of children discharged during the year ended 30 June 1986 who had been committed through the courts under the Children Acts.

Boys

Girls

Total

To Parents or Guardians

43

43

To Detention Centre

19

19

Remaining in Care Voluntarily for further education

11

11

Total

73

73

(d) Total number of staff employed on 30 June 1986.

Special Schools for Young Offenders—Staffing Establishments

Grade

Finglas Children's Centre

St. Joseph's, Clonmel

Trinity House School, Lusk

Cuan Mhuire, Whitehall

Director/Unit Head

1

1

1

1

Deputy Director

2

2

3

Residential Care Staff

29

23

33

9

Duty Officer/Night Supervisor

6

2

13

2

Night Security Officer

2

Clerical/Nursing Staff

9

4

4

1

Maintenance Staff

2

5

3

Domestic Staff

24

15

11

1

Instructors/Teachers

11

9

8

Total

84

61

78

14

(e) Operating Costs of Special Schools for Young Offenders (as funded from Subhead A, Vote 33).

Details of the cost of these schools in 1985 and 1986 together with the Budget allocation for 1987 are as follows:

(i) Finglas Childrens Centre.

1985

1986

1987

£

£

£

Pay

782,072

844,252

884,000

Non-Pay

223,012

241,285

248,000

Gross Total

1,005,084

1,085,537

1,132,000

Income

188,510

158,594

240,000

Net Total

816,574

926,943

892,000

1985

1986

1987

£

£

£

Pay

485,685

525,158

550,000

Non-Pay

377,245

365,227

375,000

Gross Total

862,930

890,385

925,000

Income

335,315

296,289

300,000

Net Total

527,615

594,096

625,000

(iii) Trinity House School, Lusk.

1985

1986

1987

£

£

£

Pay

841,096

977,334

1,020,000

Non-Pay

293,036

231,991

260,000

Gross Total

1,134,132

1,209,325

1,280,000

Income

67,609

86,701

65,000

Net Total

1,066,523

1,122,624

1,215,000

(iv) Cuan Mhuire, Whitehall, Dublin 9.

1985

1986

1987

£

£

£

Pay

162,217

180,616

194,000

Non-Pay

32,257

35,613

36,500

Gross Total

194,474

216,229

230,500

Income

2,110

9,657

10,000

Net Total

192,364

206,572

220,500

In addition, salaries of senior management staff and teachers, who are paid from the Primary Education (Teachers Salaries) Vote amounted as follows in 1986:

School

Amount

Finglas Children's Centre

£211,510

St. Joseph's Clonmel

£131,172

Trinity House, Lusk

£94,199

Cuan Mhuire, Whitehall

£12,241

66.

asked the Minister for Education if she will indicate the steps she has taken to monitor and evaluate the operation and effectiveness of the centres (details supplied) in the Dublin area especially when compared with non-residential programmes for young people in difficulty.

Children are referred to the residential centres by agencies outside my Department, that is, the courts and the health boards. These agencies are aware of the high cost of residential care and generally young people are not admitted to special residential centres until other forms of intervention have been tried and failed.

It is accepted that, where possible, programmes of special care and education for children with problems are best effected while the children continue to live within their own community.

Expenditure on the residential centres is monitored constantly by my Department.

The effectiveness of the care and education programmes is also reviewed. The centres are inspected regularly by the inspectorate of the Department of Education, and by the Department child care adviser. The centres themselves also report on their progress and on problems encountered. These reports are evaluated by the Department.

67.

asked the Minister for Education if she will indicate whether she has any plans to spend additional public moneys on capital development in any of the centres (details supplied) in the Dublin area.

At present capital development projects are in progress at three of the centres mentioned by the Deputy. These projects comprise the construction and equipment of new residential and administrative accommodation at St. Joseph's Special School, Clonmel, the erection of a boundary wall at Finglas Children's Centre, and the erection of security fencing at Trinity House School.

There are no further plans to spend additional moneys on capital development other than minor new works for which a need may arise from time to time.

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