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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 7 Mar 1989

Vol. 387 No. 10

Private Members' Business. - Social Welfare Bill, 1989: Second Stage (Resumed).

Question again proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

As I indicated already, I am glad the Minister has decided to end the urban-rural anomaly in regard to the rates of unemployment assistance. In addition to the obvious benefits to the individual it is also a further step towards rationalising and streamlining the whole social welfare system. When demands are made for streamling or simplifying the system it is always on the basis that the most generous rates are the ones that should be used for this purpose. The only difficulty with this approach is that it has very considerable cost implications. The cost of raising the rural unemployment assistance rate to the urban rate will be £3 million. This is a considerable commitment by the Government and they are to be congratulated for taking this positive and welcome step.

The Minister for Social Welfare, Deputy Woods, undertook in the budget to review the urban-rural differential in the rates of unemployment assistance and to have new arrangements in place in July. The Bill provides that 107,000 social welfare recipients will get an extra increase in July over and above the budget increases already announced. Of these, 95,000 are on the rural rate of unemployment assistance and 12,000 are on supplementary welfare allowance. For the first time all unemployment assistance recipients will be paid at the same rate regardless of where they live. The lower rural rate will be increased to the urban rate, an increase of £1.20 per week for a short-term claimant and £1.30 per week for a long-term claimant. The new personal rate for unemployment assistance which will come into effect in July will be £42 per week for a short-term claimant and £47 per week for a long-term claimant. A family with three children on long-term unemployment assistance will get £107 per week from July as compared with £96.90 if they are currently on the rural rate, an increase of £10.10 per week. The new rate of supplementary allowance will be £42, the same as for those on short-term unemployment assistance. Because of the abolition of the rural rate of unemployment assistance, people on supplementary welfare allowance will get an additional increase of £1.20 next July. Taking account of budget increases, people on this rate, the lowest payment, will receive an increase of £4.20 in July.

I know the abolition of the rural rate will be much appreciated by people in some parts of my constituency, for instance Mayfield, part of which is on the outskirts of the city, and Dublin Hill where there are many new housing developments and which up to now were on the outskirts of the city. All those people in Cork who are on supplementary welfare allowance will benefit from this new arrangement.

I should like to refer to widowers and deserted husbands and I take this opportunity to welcome the introduction of a new social assistance scheme for widowers and deserted husbands with dependent children. This is a major improvement for men who lose their wives and who are left to look after their children. At present they have to fall back on supplementary welfare allowance. When we consider the provision we make for widows and deserted wives, there was a need to introduce this scheme for widowers and deserted husbands so as to create greater equality. When one speaks of equality it is normally in the context of improving the position of women vis-à-vis men.

The discrimination against widowers and deserted husbands needed to be tackled and I am glad that the Minister has taken the opportunity to introduce this new scheme. It will mean a very significant increase for widowers. Compared with what they receive under supplementary welfare allowance at present, a widower with four children will receive £29 extra per week. I know that the introduction of this new scheme for widowers and deserted husbands will be a great help to people in Cork who find themselves in this unhappy position. A widower or deserted husband with dependent children will now get the same rate of social welfare social assistance payment as a widow or deserted wife.

With changing work and life patterns in society, we have to face the reality that men are left to take on the responsibility of looking after their children when their wives die or desert them. It was unfair to penalise them for doing so or to discriminate against them. Many are unable to go out to work or unable to find work. This new scheme will be a major help for such people and has been warmly welcomed. It is a major step towards a single parent allowance scheme and is a first step in a series of measures necessary to introduce equality between men and women in the social welfare system.

We have already had some experience of the effects of European Community equality directives. When the Coalition introduced the equality provision in 1986 they had to make special alleviating payments to people on social welfare who would otherwise have lost out. They had intended that those payments would last for one year only but this Government have continued them. Rather than abruptly stopping them in one go, as the Coalition were going to do, the Government decided to phase them out on a gradual basis. This was a caring and sensible approach to adopt. I would ask the Minister to consider the possibility of introducing a single parent allowance scheme and to bring about the necessary rationalisation of the system to achieve this. This is the direction we should be going in. It is better to face the issue and not wait until we are forced to take action by the EC

The Minister has introduced very welcome and desirable improvements for people on social welfare but I would like to consider the position of the unemployed and the other measures that could be taken to improve their situation. Some of these, like the pre-retirement allowance, are dealt with in this Bill but others are dealt with at an administrative level. The Minister has introduced the part time job incentive scheme, the educational opportunites scheme and the voluntary work option. These are all very important helps for the unemployed but we need to make more progress in this direction. In order to be entitled to unemployment payments, a person must be available for and actually seeking work and must be free and willing to take up full time employment. One of the conditions or means of monitoring this availability for work is signing on, usually on a weekly basis, at the local employment exchange or other signing office.

The schemes I have just mentioned involve some suspension of the criteria of being available for and genuinely seeking work. If a person is to undertake, say, the educational opportunities scheme, they devote the period of the course to their studies. They are, in theory, available for and actively seeking work but in reality the majority do not seek work during that time. They use the opportunity of the course to acquire an additional educational qualification so as to improve their long-term job prospects. This is a very sensible approach but it means accepting that such persons need not continually establish that they are available for work. While the Government are succeeding in creating an environment for jobs and growth in the economy it appears we will have the problem of unemployment for some years to come.

Representing as I do a constituency with more than its fair share of unemployment, I have a particular interest in any means of improving the position of those who are unemployed particularly the long-term unemployed. The Government have made great strides in improving the income position of the unemployed and this Bill gives effect to substantial increases. We must take this further and increase flexibility in the system so as to create a wide range of options for the unemployed.

While some unemployment groups are mainly pressure groups, I should like to compliment one of the unemployed groups in my constituency for the practical and sensible approach they have adopted in coming up with proposals to improve the lot of the unemployed. The unemployed group in Knocknaheeny have produced a preliminary document suggesting that there should be a transition period between unemployment and employment, especially for the long term unemployed. The basis of their proposal is the establishment of a co-operative for unemployed people. The Minister will be well aware from his interest in cooperatives of the immense role they can play in society. It should not be forgotten that the co-operative movement was started in Ireland by Sir Horace Plunkett. It proved an excellent idea for the people of Ireland and swept the country. It is based on the concept of people helping themselves.

The Knocknaheeny Support Group in their preliminary submission, a copy of which has been submitted to the Department of Social Welfare, have said that there is a connection between unemployment and poverty and I am sure we would all agree with that. They recognise the need to express the views of the disadvantaged in society, but they place a greater emphasis on the need for imaginative and positive responses which might have some chance of making an impact on the problem of unemployment. They consider that their submission is in the category of such a response. "Support", as they are called, claim that the extent of the problem imposes an obligation of co-operation on all people, whether in Government, the public service, or in community or voluntary groups.

The Knocknaheeny Support Group provide mutual support and a commitment to community enterprise and job creation. They consider this is a difficult but viable route forward. The unemployed have to play a part in tackling the overall problem of unemployment for society. The group tackle the psychological aspects of unemployment and help people to get back into circulation. They believe there is an obligation on the Government to recognise in some practical and substantial form the efforts of groups such as themselves to find some way out of unemployment. They are trying to highlight how unemployed people feel about their situation and to set the scene for greater flexibility to give them a chance to return to work.

At this stage it is as well to state that the support group claim no monopoly on wisdom, commonsense or initiative and that the group are completely open to suggested improvements or changes from any quarter. The basis of their proposals involves the recognition both in principle and in practice of the concept of a transition period, that is a period between unemployment and full employment. They feel from their own experience of long-term unemployment that this is an essential element. It is vital to the success of this specific proposal and of any sustained community effort to rectify the problem.

During this transition period they propose to set up a services co-operative with a mixture of skilled, semi-skilled, unskilled and professional services being provided. This would be done on a competitive commercial basis. All funds generated by the co-op would be held by Support Limited, a company limited by guarantee which is currently in the process of formation.

During this transition period all those engaged on the project would keep their full social welfare entitlements and, in addition, would be paid the appropriate family income supplement. Local authority rent payments would be held at their current levels on commencement of the project. When the accumulated funds and income flow have reached predetermined levels, all those engaged in the project would leave the social welfare system. All payments would be made from the accumulated funds from that point on.

That, in its basic form, is the proposal which is being suggested as a pilot project. I would strongly urge the Minister to give serious consideration to this matter. The people involved in this project are unemployed for a long number of years, some of them for up to seven or eight years.

What is wanted is some system which would enable these people to be exempted from having to meet the criteria of being available for work for a period of, say, up to one year. There would be no real cost to the State. The people involved have no immediate prospects of obtaining employment. What they want is an opportunity to create for themselves the chance of setting up in business, while having at the same time the security of knowing that their social welfare payments will continue. I know that the Minister is actively considering this proposal and I would like to take this opportunity to thank him, on my own behalf and on behalf of the support group, for his interest in the work of the group.

The Government have a major part to play in helping people in need. It is much better if Government can work in tandem with voluntary groups to improve the lot of the unemployed. This Minister is committed to that approach.

The technical requirement of being available for employment presupposes the availability of employment opportunities. In times of high unemployment the strict enforcement of this condition has been questioned. Considerable progress has been made over the past two years in introducing flexibility to the unemployment payments system. I would ask the Minister to consider further modifying the system so as to allow for the transition period. This could also apply to educational courses where those under the educational opportunities scheme are unavailable or unsuitable. The essential control would be that this flexibility would only be available to people who were unemployed for, say, two years. In this way the likelihood of this proposal costing the State any money would be very small, if it existed at all.

I am pleased that the Minister has taken the necessary powers in this Bill to make a man liable to maintain his wife and any dependent child. A similar obligation is placed on a woman to maintain her husband and any dependent child. This is a major and very significant departure from the position that has existed up to now. A deserting spouse previously was not obliged to maintain his wife and children. All that is to change under this Bill.

While the State provides — and will continue to provide — for the deserted wife, the State will take on part of the responsibility for getting a contribution from the husband towards the maintenance of the wife and children. At present, a deserted wife must take steps to obtain maintenance from her husband before she will be entitled to social welfare. For wives left in such a vulnerable position, this can be a very harrowing experience. Going to court is a difficult experience for ordinary law-abiding citizens. It is much more so if it is to try to force a deserting husband to pay maintenance. Entitlement to deserted wife's payments depends on the wife trying, and continuing to try, to get maintenance from the husband.

The number of deserted wives in receipt of payments from the State has grown enormously and is now over 13,500. The cost to the taxpayer is estimated at over £52 million in 1989. This increase in payments is due to the increased breakdown in marriage. In many cases the husband walks away from his obligations and the taxpayer is left to foot the bill. This must stop. Those who can afford to pay maintenance for their families must be made to do so. There is no good reason why the taxpayer should continue to take the husband's responsibility when he is in a position to meet it. By imposing a liability on a deserting spouse to maintain the other, the first step is being taken to reduce the burden on the taxpayer.

The Minister for Social Welfare will now be able to seek a maintenance order against a person who fails to pay maintenance to the deserted spouse. The District Court will be able to make an order compelling that person to make the necessary payments to the Minister. In this way the State will be able to reduce the cost to it of paying deserted wives.

In common with the Minister's general approach to preserving the entitlements of people at present in receipt of payments, the new arrangements will not affect any payments that deserted wives are at present receiving. This is a very sensible and practical arrangement. People will have entered into commitments on the basis of their anticipated income and we should recognise that any change would impose hardship on those deserted wives.

The Minister is introducing a procedure to simplify and streamline court procedures in matters of evidence in social welfare fraud cases. These measures are to be welcomed, as is his crackdown on subcontractors. For too long the public have been complaining about fraud and abuse in the social welfare system. The Minister is to be complimented for having the initiative to deal seriously with this problem. He has had considerable success to date, saving tens of millions of pounds of taxpayer's money. These new measures are designed to further improve his power to tackle people who fiddle the system.

There are many other major positive developments in this Bill and in social welfare matters generally that I have not had time to consider in detail. The bottom line, really is that this Minister and this Fianna Fáil Government care about the needs of people on social welfare. The Minister has successfully managed the resources of his Department. He has the backing of the Government in providing additional resources so as to give major increases in real incomes for the unemployed and maintain the position of all who depend on social welfare.

It is important that we should remember, in a time of economic difficulty, the problem that the present Minister and Government inherited from the previous Administration. I was disappointed at the contribution of the main Opposition speaker. His contribution to an extremely important matter was very negative. More progress has been made in two years than was ever previously envisaged. Both speakers of the Labour Party and the Progressive Democrats recognised and acknowledged the progress made by the Government and particularly by Deputy Woods, the Minister for Social Welfare, in that time. It is a pity that we could not have had a more positive approach because, whether we like it or not, it must be recognised that we inherited a major problem. There had been no activity for almost four and a half years. This Government are tackling the problems, we are on the right road. There is an awful lot to be done but we have made progress in streamlining the system and giving better benefits. I am confident that with the continued efforts of the Minister and the Government — and of each one of us in the House — we will face the responsibility in an honest and serious way, not in a political way. If we do that we will live up to what is expected of us.

I am normally a very positive person, at any rate I have often been accused of that. However, when we talk about the national debt, the cry we hear often nowadays is that it doubled between 1982 and 1987. The national debt increased from 1977 to 1981 by about 27 per cent per annum. In order to avert its obvious direction, certain measures had to be taken without the full support of all parties in this House. They were taken by the Government at the time in the teeth of very stiff opposition which is a far cry from the situation prevailing in the House today.

As I have said, I am by nature a positive person and I welcome the positive aspects in the Bill, particularly in regard to the provision for widowers who had made a valid case for a number of years. It is unfortunate that their demands were not acceded to long before this. Provision has been made for them. A widower who stays at home to look after children used to get £56.80 per week and under the new system he will get £74.80. It is a help and an improvement but it is not a huge step forward.

Generally speaking, there have been instances in the past where supplementary welfare was more beneficial to the recipient than unemployment or other types of assistance. I wonder if a case will arise where individual widowers may suffer a fall in income because of a mortgage or other liabilities, and the Department of Social Welfare or a health board would decide that they cannot exceed the statutory social welfare benefit available to the recipient. As the Minister knows, that applies in quite a number of other cases and, as public representatives, we have come up against individual instances where we advise people to remain on supplementary welfare instead of going on to some other system which could result in a deserted wife, deserted husband or a widower being worse off. Perhaps the Minister will clarify this later.

The Minister also made provision for the inclusion of public servants in the new PRSI proposals. There are negative as well as positive elements in that area and I am sure the Minister will realise that in due course. I do not propose to go into them too deeply tonight, suffice to say that it will not be the smooth operation which the Minister has in mind.

I know that legislation should not be introduced to deal with hard cases but, inevitably, you will find that such cases must prompt legislation. Widows are a case in point but it took a very long time before their case was recognised. Notwithstanding all the accolades conferred on the Minister I can assure him that there is a great deal of hardship, deprivation and poverty. I am not speaking about the kind of poverty illustrated on television programmes but a poverty affecting people who do not look poor. That has not been obvious in years gone by but I find — and I am sure the same applies to all public representatives — that more and more people are seeking assistance. Their appearance does not put them in the social or economic category in dire need but, when you investigate their case carefully, you will find that they are widowers or people on low incomes who are in a bind out of which they are unable to extricate themselves. They are on fixed incomes and if anything goes wrong which disrupts the harmony of their budget they have great difficulty. For instance, Confirmation or Communion can be a huge trauma because their children feel that they have to keep in step with their peers. We all know that children are very sensitive but they can also be very cruel to one another. The children of people on low incomes often feel that they are not equal although under the Constitution we are supposed to cherish all the children of the nation equally.

I do not want to spend too much time on this subject but I have never before received such a volume of cases of people in that category as I have over the past 12 months. I do not know whether that applies to all public representatives but I presume it does. Some people deprecate the clinic system but one of the best places to learn how legislation affects the people is by listening to people's problems at first hand. Generally speaking, you will find that all the legislation passed in this House goes over most people's heads except in the way that it affects them on the ground.

We all know that there has been fraud in the social welfare system. Of course that is not to be encouraged or supported but the problem is that fear can be created in the hearts and minds of people in receipt of social welfare assistance in particular. They may be scared into leaving the country or refusing to go through an investigative system which they feel will find something that is not in order. Perhaps one would say that if they have nothing to hide they should not be worried. However, I have come across cases — and I am sure other Members have too — where people had nothing to hide, and it could be proved that they had nothing to hide, but they were terror-stricken at the prospect of an investigation into their social welfare payments,

There is also the question of young people living at home and the assessment of board and lodging in their parents home which works against them in determining the level of social welfare payments. Deputy Bell spoke eloquently about this before Private Members' Business. He said that it benefited them to leave home and to live in rented accommodation, away from the supervision of their parents, and they then qualified for maximum benefits. That is a flaw in the system which should be corrected. Let nobody tell us that it is better or desirable to encourage young people to leave home. It is not, for two reasons, first, they are not around to help in the house and to look after their parents as they might be expected to do in many cases. We have often come across cases where an unemployed young person living in a household with two elderly parents in receipt of social welfare payments has found it much more beneficial to leave home and to leave it up to the State to maintain their parents. That flaw in the system needs to be tackled. The Department should look at how it affects the running of the State's affairs and also how it affects the lives of some people. The Minister should look at this area very carefully in the future.

While other speakers have been very supportive of the Minister in the efforts he is making — and we must all encourage the fair running of the country in difficult times — we have removed from the payroll over the past two years in one way or another roughly 100,000 people. Generally speaking these are young people. I mention this because they have been humiliated into accepting a paltry sum if they happen to be unfortunate enough to be living at home. They have been humiliated into going through a very stringent investigative and assessment system following which they find that the only options open to them are to either accept this paltry sum and remain dependent on the State or to go elsewhere. They choose to go elsewhere. I am not so sure I would be happy with that kind of development if I were a Government Minister.

It has been said that our young people are our greatest asset but they are not of much use to us if they are living across the water in London or in New York, Montreal or somewhere else. I am sure that other Members of the House have had similar experiences but during the past 12 months I have had the rather peculiar experience of constituents writing to me from places such as New York, London and further afield. I had never experienced this before. Admittedly, I have only been a Member of this House for the past seven or eight years but I have been in public life for somewhat longer. On one occasion a man came to my clinic and stated he had been out of work for seven or eight months with little prospect of obtaining work. He was not a shirker but rather someone who had eagerly sought work. However, he had failed to find it and had decided to give up the ghost. Given the possibility that he would not be able to obtain work for up to five or six weeks he asked if I could ensure that the welfare services would operate in such a way so as to protect his wife and children in his absence. This can happen quite often and I am sure every other Member of this House has had similar experiences. This is sad because it indicates we have returned to a time which I had hoped had long since passed. Unfortunately we seem to have returned to it again and the incidence seems to be much more pronounced than previously.

I now wish to refer to our appeals system. Let me say first of all that I do not condone the issuing of certificates to people who are allegedly ill and possibly able to work so that they may obtain illegally benefits of any kind. A particular case comes to mind. Take the case of a person who had lived most of his or her life in the United Kingdom and who had been deemed to be unfit for work. This person decided, being an Irish citizen, that since the cost of living was somewhat lower here to return home. There was some merit in this as given the exchange rate it would have been much more beneficial for that person to return home and to receive his or her social welfare payments from the DHSS. What happened next? One of our investigators deemed that individual fit for work or to quote the phrase used "not incapable of work". This person was then cut off with the result that instead of a payment being issued from the UK, the Irish taxpayer had to step in and pay supplementary welfare to this person. A running battle took place for several weeks until we were eventually able to prove that the consultants were right to deem the person unfit for work some two or three years previously and the case was upheld. I could not understand how an appeals officer could come up with a decision such as that which was of no benefit to the State and at complete variance with the decision, recommendation and considered medical opinion of the consultant who originally deemed that person as being unfit or incapable of work.

Those are some of the weird cases which come up from time to time. With a little bit of thought, care and individual attention a lot of trouble and trauma could be avoided later on if some of the rough edges in the system were rounded off.

I should also mention, even though the increases are welcome — 3 per cent in the case of widows and old age pensioners — that they only amount to a nominal increase and barely match the rate of inflation. There are other costs on the householder which place them in a less favourable position. It is unfortunate that it was not found possible to increase those levels somewhat more. Here I have in mind the case of an old age pensioner living with a younger member of the family, a son or a daughter, paying a large mortgage. In this case a son or daughter buys a house and decides to bring the parent to live with them. The son or daughter could find themselves being taxed as a single person and, as at present, find mortgage interest relief diminishing. That type of household would have two set incomes, one of which would be controlled by the repayments on the mortgage and the other, in the form of a single person's or widow's pension, controlled by the State. Because the parent is living with a son or daughter, they would not be in receipt of the usual free fuel allowance or other concessions. Therefore, that particular household could find itself in a rather difficult position simply because a member of the family has had the courage, guts and commitment to try to help out and to take care of a parent. This is not an isolated case. In fact, it is quite common. Perhaps the Minister would look into this matter to see if anything can be done to assist these people. I do not think it would cost the Exchequer a huge amount of money to do so and it would help to alleviate the misery being experienced by such households.

Giving increases from July onwards is like saying to somebody at Christmas-time: "I will give you a Christmas present after the summer". While from a budgetary point of view it can be very beneficial and from the point of view of balancing books it can have a good, rounded off effect, it does not have the same effect on the recipient of the alleged gift. In future years the Minister might try to bring Christmas forward a little and instead of promising next year's Christmas gift in July he will try to give it as near as possible to 1 April or 5 April, the beginning of the tax year.

We brought it forward to November.

(Interruptions.)

On that occasion we did not have the full support of the Opposition. On this occasion we will have the full support of the Opposition.

We should get something done to the ozone hole, never mind the potholes.

I welcome the exemption of the fostering allowance for assessment of means for unemployment assistance and other social welfare payments. The Minister may not be aware of something that should be borne in mind which I mention in passing. A problem has arisen in recent times in relation to insurance covering foster children which has caused considerable concern to foster parents. The foster parent may well be deemed liable in the case of a claim if something is not done to alleviate that problem.

Another point that must be borne in mind is the old question of somebody deciding he or she wants to qualify for a social employment scheme or enterprise allowance scheme by virtue of being a specified length of time in receipt of unemployment benefit or assistance or whatever the case may be. Lo and behold, one or two weeks before that person is about to qualify, what happens? The person is cut off, amazingly and miraculously. I cannot understand why a little co-ordination could not foresee that. All it does is save a few pounds. It quenches any ray of hope of the individual concerned who just leaves the country, vanishes, goes to New York, Edinburgh, London or somewhere else. It is sad that people should leave with a sour taste in their mouths. Often they will say they were willing to try the enterprise allowance scheme or the social employment scheme, which have many limitations. I am not suggesting them as a panacea for anything. As a matter of fact, there are many limitations in the social employment scheme but at least there are people willing to try it when nothing better is available. When their hope is killed the only option they have left is to emigrate, and they do not emigrate with fond memories of this green and luscious land where everything is in order.

I want to give a personal view on another matter. Where redundancies occur, redundancy lump sum payments are made in some cases, supported by social welfare etc. From my experience in some cases the payment of a lump sum does not do the job it was intended to do. A case can be made for spacing out the payment over a period of time whether by weekly payment, monthly payment or whatever. Some regard should be had as to whether it is in the interest of a family and the individual to pay out a lump sum of £10,000, £20,000, £30,000 or £40,000 as the case may be — there are not too many cases at present where the last amount is paid—or whether it would be better to pay the redundancy figure over a period of years on a weekly basis, thus guaranteeing for a couple of years at least an adequate level of income in that household. In some households home management or home economics might not be a major factor. That has been brought to my attention by people in the St. Vincent de Paul Society and in other places, and they speak with some authority on that matter. I mention this in passing.

Another point along the lines of my last reference relates to payment of social welfare assistance to the travelling people. The first priority in any family unit is to ensure adequate food and shelter in that order. From my dealing with cases in that area I feel a greater use of the food voucher system should be made rather than total dependence or too great a dependence on the weekly payment of benefit or assistance. It has been brought to my attention by social workers, St. Vincent de Paul and various concerned people that in many instances if they compare the income of a family where there is somebody employed with that of unemployed people, in many cases the employed people are far worse off.

Because of the inability of the family unit to run their finances properly and the lack of proper home economics — through no fault of theirs — greater use of the food voucher system would ensure that basic needs in terms of food would be met in the first instance. Basic needs in terms of heating, lighting and shelter could be met similarly if there was a greater reliance on that type of system. I understand that applies in some countries and there might be some progress in that area. We do not want to leave the family without spending money, but we want to ensure that the family's basic needs are met. Whether anything else happens after that is a matter for the families concerned.

The age old fact that anybody qualifying for unemployment benefit or assistance must be "available for work" is peculiar. In many instances, when people in public offices are under pressure there is not sufficient time either for the person outside the counter or the person inside the counter to explain the situation.

In a case I dealt with recently a person did not qualify for unemployment benefit for the past three years simply because a form was not filled out properly. The person worked every time he got an opportunity to do so, worked in the same industry and was available for work anywhere work was available, but because a question was posed in a particular fashion — like one of the questionnaires one gets from time to time — a particular answer was given and the result was that that person did not qualify.

The last point I want to refer to was referred to by Deputy Bell. There have been a number of incidents, isolated, I am glad to say, of State contracts being awarded to people who have been known to employ persons in receipt of social welfare either in this jurisdiction or in another jurisdiction. That fact was well known. I ask that in future all recipients of State contracts be asked to declare the names and addresses of people working for them and if they are known to be in receipt of social welfare either in this jurisdiction or elsewhere. I am not as enthusiastic as most of the backbenchers who have spoken on the other side of the House, but I am sure the Minister will pardon me for that.

I compliment the Minister on his efforts over the past few years to streamline the social welfare system. Despite difficult financial constraints he has managed to protect payments to social welfare recipients generally. He has set about tackling the problems of the lower paid in society. This is to be welcomed. Families in receipt of social welfare payments find it very difficult to make ends meet and in many cases they are barely above the poverty line. The Government have managed in the past two years to provide over £250 million extra for families on low incomes. Resources have been directed to families in the greatest need and extra provisions for children in this year's budget will amount to £42 million.

The Minister has introduced a number of worthwhile changes in the social welfare system during the past two years. He has brought in many new schemes and ideas which will benefit the weaker and less well off in our community. This Bill provides a new social assistance scheme for widowers and deserted husbands. It abolishes the lower rural rate of unemployment assistance by applying the higher urban rates throughout the country. It also extends the liability on a deserting husband to maintain the deserted wife. The bill radically streamlines and restructures social welfare payments. The number of different rates for children, for example, has gone down from 36 to 12 and the rates of unemployment assistance have decreased from 17 to six. All this has been done within a two-year period.

The changes being introduced will benefit everybody in receipt of social welfare payments, especially those in receipt of long-term benefits. The general increase of 3 per cent will more than maintain the position of all claimants since the rate of inflation is only 2 per cent. The special increases of 12 per cent for the long-term unemployed and 8 per cent for people in receipt of supplementary welfare allowance give them a substantial rise and, coupled with last year's increase, will help those people who found it practically impossible to survive on the income they had in the past few years. The increase of 3 per cent in widow's and old age pensions, unemployment and disability payments is welcome.

I welcome the special increase for the long-term unemployed. This has been a bone of contention for many years with different Governments and for various reasons no Government set out to tackle the problem. I am glad this Minister has recognised the serious imbalance in this area. Last year the long-term unemployed received a substantial increase, while this year they are to receive an extra 12 per cent. The increase since last July is 25 per cent, which represents a considerable improvement for people depending on this payment. I hope that in next year's budget the Minister will again increase this payment very substantially.

He will not be there.

There is definitely a need to improve the entitlements of those people. The improvements in benefits for families are also welcome. There will be only two rates of adult dependant allowance for the unemployed, one long term and the other short term. The number of rates is reduced from five to two. It is important to have only a small number of rates because otherwise people become confused as to their entitlements. I would be happy to see only one rate for all people on social welfare. I hope the Minister will continue to streamline the system and bring about more improvements in budgets to come.

This Government are firmly committed to improving the position of families. This is done through social welfare payments and the family income supplement. I am glad the Minister has recognised that the family income supplement has not been working effectively. He has had a study carried out and a number of recommendations have been put forward which I hope he will implement as quickly as possible. Many people are not aware that the family income supplement exists. When people come into a clinic and are encouraged to make a claim, more often than not they are found to be eligible. The Minister outlined the conclusions of the report. The retention of the scheme was recommended, subject to improvements in its structure with the aim of moving towards a family credit variant in due course, increases in the income limits for recipients and an increase in the maximum payments, together with additional payments to families with more than five children.

And fishermen.

This should be brought about immediately. There should be a major media profile of the family income supplement, with the aim of encouraging families to apply. It is not good enough to have it available if people are not aware that they might qualify for it. I hope the Minister will encourage people to apply by highlighting the scheme through the media and other channels available to him.

Last year in speaking on the budget I criticised the Minister for not bringing in an allowance for widowers and deserted husbands. I am glad that this year's budget has introduced the necessary changes.

The Minister was listening to the Deputy.

He always listens to his backbenchers.

He listened to the Deputy's strong representations.

The new scheme will be of major benefit to men looking after families on low incomes. In many cases they were claiming unemployment assistance with a child dependant allowance, but the amount of money available was very small. Many families in those circumstances were living below the poverty line. I welcome this scheme which I hope will be of major benefit. The Minister stated that the supplementary welfare allowance received at present by a man with two children amounts to £56.80. He will get £74.80 under the new scheme, an increase of £18. I welcome that decision by the Minister and the Government. It is worth noting that almost 6,000 men will benefit from this change. We have heard a lot of talk over the years about equality for women and I am glad the Minister has recognised the need for equality for men in regard to this scheme. I have no doubt that as a result of the change the families of those men will enjoy a better standard of living.

I welcome the increase in the rural rate of unemployment assistance. In County Wexford, particularly in the town of Enniscorthy, we have been aware of an anomaly between the rural and urban rate. People in rural areas receive less than their urban counterparts although they have to provide for their families in the same way as those living in the towns. I should like to compliment the Minister on pushing at the Cabinet table for a change in that scheme. He has won a big concession for those living in rural areas.

I should like to draw the Minister's attention to the delays in processing unemployment assistance claims. In County Wexford people have to wait for between 18 and 20 weeks to have a claim dealt with and this is causing severe hardship. It appears the social welfare officers concerned care very little about the person who makes the claim. If one rings their office one is told that the file is on their desk and that the applicant will be interviewed within two weeks but when one inquires two weeks later one finds that the matter has not been dealt with. That is not good enough. Claimants should not be subjected to such long delays and should not be expected to endure such hardship. I appeal to the Minister to take an interest in this and encourage social welfare officers to speed up the decision-making process. Indeed, some of those social welfare officers should be given lessons in courtesy and manners. They should bear in mind that they are dealing with people who through no fault of their own cannot find a job. Those people should not be subjected to harassment or criticism by those officials. It is important to stress that I am referring to some of the officials in the county.

I welcome the introduction of the self-assessment scheme and I hope it will reduce the delays. I am aware of people who will not make claims for unemployment assistance through fear of the social welfare officers. I welcome the decision of the Minister to extend the free fuel scheme with effect from October to old age pensioners who live with a person who is in receipt of unemployment assistance. There is no doubt that those people are in need of assistance under this scheme. This is another example of the Minister's commitment to the less well-off in our society.

I appeal to the Minister to give consideration to the disability benefit scheme particularly in regard to the attitude of some of the medical referees. I have no doubt that I will not be too popular for criticising the medical referees but I find it hard to understand some of their decisions. People who are seriously ill have been cut off from benefit. One of my constituents had an appointment card for a hospital in his possession when he went before a medical referee but the disability benefit was stopped in his case. I wonder if some of those medical referees have much medical knowledge. The Minister should ensure that medical referees adopt a more caring attitude when dealing with people who are genuinely ill. I accept that many of those who are claiming benefit do so on the basis of a bad back or a bad pain somewhere and that they are swinging the lead. The Minister is trying to get the balance right but the decisions of some of the medical referees are not correct. They result in applicants having to appeal the decision, being examined by another medical referee and later attending an oral hearing. By the time most cases are referred to an oral hearing the applicant is in hospital and the disability benefit is restored. The system should always work in favour of those who are genuinely sick.

The Minister should consider the introduction of a school children's allowance to be paid in September. When the schools opened last September many families on social welfare or on low pay found it difficult to provide books and uniforms for their children. Some years ago a double week's payment was made in September to those on social welfare and I should like to appeal to the Minister to consider reintroducing it. Those in receipt of social welfare, and those in receipt of the family income supplement, should be given a special school children's allowance so that they can purchase uniforms and books for their children. I have no doubt that such a move would be welcomed by all sides of the House. There is no reason the children of the less well off should not be togged out as good as the better off in the community.

The Government are providing a good social welfare system. I heard Deputy Durkan complaining about the Government providing payments from July but he omitted to say that when the Coalition Government were in power payments were made from November. We have succeeded in giving the less well off their increases six months earlier. The improvements introduced by the Minister in the past two years have been welcomed by all. We would all like to give more to those people but we cannot do so because of the financial difficulties we found ourselves in on taking office.

What about 1977?

The Minister has done a reasonably good job in caring for the less well off in our society. I hope he takes on board the suggestions I have put forward, particularly the plea for a school children's allowance in September. The Minister should continue to work in the best interests of those who depend on social welfare. Many of our problems would be solved if we had more jobs for our people and I hope we will see an improvement in that area in the near future. The Government of the day must provide a reasonable standard of living for the unemployed and Fianna Fáil have shown in the past two years they are a caring party.

Nonsense.

Deputy Woods has shown himself to be a caring Minister and I have no doubt that in the next three years he will give a reasonable increase to those on social welfare.

What about the fishermen in Wexford?

The Minister should realise that Deputies are frustrated at what is happening around them and that this is the only platform they have to highlight the anomalies that exist in social welfare. Every Social Welfare Bill introduced into this House must be regarded as important, particularly in the light of present day circumstances when there is an appalling level of poverty. The recent ESRI report, the reports by the Combat Poverty Agency, the Vincent de Paul Society and the major religious organisations here have shown that 1.3 million people are living in poverty, their only source of income being what they obtain from the social welfare system. It is in this context that certain provisions of this Bill must be judged.

The main purpose of the Bill is to provide increases in rates of social welfare payments and other improvements in social welfare schemes announced by the Minister for Finance in his budget speech. There will be a 3 per cent increase in payments generally with higher increases in the lowest payments. A minimum child dependant allowance of £10 a week is also provided for. However, when one closely examines the number of people who will benefit from the minimum child benefit allowance of £10 a week the list is very short indeed. The main beneficiaries will be those in receipt of supplementary allowances. They will receive a miserable 50p for each of the first two children and £2 for the third and subsequent children. Those with only two children stand to gain absolutely nothing. Those on unemployment benefit, on social welfare disability benefit or on injury benefit, with three or more children can expect something in the region of 70p per child. Those with dependent children and receiving non-contributory old age pensions or blind pensions can expect to gain £1.30. This is a miserable response to families with young children who are living in absolute poverty. It says very little for the Government who claim to cherish all the children of the nation equally.

Other improvements in this Bill include the introduction of a new social assistance scheme for widowers and deserted husbands with children. I certainly express my thanks and congratulations to the Minister for bringing this in at last as this has been advocated by Deputies from all parties over the years.

The extension of the child dependent allowance to children between the ages of 18 and 19 in full time education is also to be welcomed, as also is the further extension of that to children up to 21 years of age who are attending any third level establishment. However there is an anomaly. It would appear that there is no provision for children over 19 years of age who are still attending second level education, and the number over 19 still in secondary schools will increase because of the poor prospects of employment and the need to repeat leaving certificate examinations in order to obtain higher marks. I would ask the Minister to give this area serious attention because parents encourage their children to stay at school until they can get some kind of employment. I will be advocating this from now on because I know of the number of young people who want to stay at school since they have no prospect of getting employment.

Sections 3, 4 and 5 of this Bill provide for increases in social welfare payments across the board. At the end of 1988 the Government had a whopping £500 million over what they had budgeted for. This was an opportunity for a caring government to try to alleviate the appalling levels of poverty that I referred to earlier. Sadly for those caught in the poverty trap the opportunity was missed. I was not surprised at the level of increases, however, after hearing the Taoiseach last Sunday week on a radio interview dismiss the figures that were produced by the ESRI report on poverty in Ireland. The Taoiseach had the audacity to say he believed these figures were exaggerated. Does the Minister for Social Welfare believe that these figures were exaggerated? Knowing the Minister and knowing of his dedication to such people I do not believe he does. Is the Minister prepared to admit that he accepts the figures as a factual commentary on life in Ireland for over 1.3 million people? Will he explain to this House how he sees increases in weekly incomes that vary between £1.10 and £2.05 per week? People coming to my clinics inform me that their families are living on tinned food and only once, at the end of the week usually, can a substantial meal be given to those, families. What on earth is going to happen in the years ahead? At what cost will all this be to the health services? Unless young people have proper nourishment their future is very dismal indeed. Would the Minister like to outline to the House what effects sections 3, 4 and 5 of this Bill will have on poverty? Can he say how many people will be taken out of the poverty trap as a result of these increases?

I cannot vote against these increases because to do so would be to condemn those on social welfare to a more appalling standard of living than they currently have. However, the fact that I am voting for these provisions does not mean that I approve of them. The amounts are miserable. They are an insult to people on social welfare who are trying to raise families. To add insult to injury they were given at a time when the Government had £500 million to spare.

I would like to move to section 6 of the Bill which provides for the introduction of a new social assistance scheme for widowers and deserted husbands with children. We are told that these schemes will be along the same lines as the existing non-contributory schemes for widows and deserted wives and would be subject to the same means test and the same rate of weekly payments. I welcome the introduction of these two schemes. Anything that improves the plight of a widower or a deserted husband trying to rear children is to be welcomed. However, this section, and these two new schemes in particular, are the most blatant and discriminatory ever to be put on the Statute Book.

If we look at the conditions under which the deserted wife's allowance and the non-contributory widow's pension is paid, we will see that one of the important factors to be taken into consideration before a person applies for a deserted wife's allowance is that she does not have an entitlement to deserted wife's benefit. The same applies to the widows' non-contributory pensions. How can the Minister come into this House and tell us he is going to deny a contributory widower's pension to a man with dependent children, who has paid PRSI contributions for many years? A deserted husband who has paid PRSI contributions for many years is also to be denied the deserted husband's benefit. Yet if a man deserts his wife she can qualify for a deserted wife's benefit on his contributions. Now the Minister is telling us that the deserted man cannot qualify for the deserted husband's benefit on the same PRSI contributions. This is something I fail to understand. Why the discrimination?

I doubt if this meets EC standards in relation to equality in social welfare matters. This House would be wrong to allow such legislation on the Statute Book. While the legislation goes some way towards improving the plight of these people I am quite convinced that the provisions of this section could be found to be unconstitutional and challenged in the courts. It is extraordinary legislation and I hope the Minister will explain the reason for the discrimination. A man who pays PRSI contributions over the years will not get the benefit of his contributions if he is a widower or a deserted husband. I am asking the Minister to seriously consider changing section 6 of this Bill to include contributory widower's pension and deserted husband's benefit.

Section 15 is to be welcomed. It provides that payments by health boards in respect of a child who has been boarded out to foster parents will be exempted from the assessment of means for social assistance purposes. I am very consious of the fact that in recent times there has been an increase in the number of children taken into care, both voluntarily and under order of courts. We owe a great debt of gratitude to the many thousands of foster parents throughout the length and breadth of Ireland who, in conjunction with the health boards, provide a very important and valuable service to the State by acting as foster parents to these unfortunate children. The economic recession and long term unemployment has had its effects on these foster parents. A substantial number of them now find themselves on long term unemployment assistance and social welfare payments. It has always been very difficult on these people when they were refused allowances for fuel, footwear and other State allowances because they were regarded as having the foster parent's allowance. This amount of £35 a week per child barely covers the additional cost of meeting the needs, in some cases special needs, of foster children. I know the provisions in this section will be a welcome relief to many of them. However, I would like the Minister to reassure me that the exemption will include assessment for medical cards and other allowances, such as free fuel and free footwear allowances.

Section 6 of the Bill is also to be welcomed. It enables such amount of social welfare payment as the Minister considers reasonable in the circumstances to be paid directly to the spouse of the recipient. This section will enable a greater portion of the overall payment to be made to the dependent spouse in such circumstances. Too often have I seen a husband and wife and two children separating. The husband would claim £42 long term unemployment assistance, urban rate, while the wife would get £48.40 which is below the supplementary welfare allowance rate and frequently this would have to be subsidised by the local community welfare officer. I fully accept that under any regulations proposed by the Minister the recipient will have to be paid at least the basic supplementary allowance rate.

It would also be more convenient for the spouse of the recipient to get all the money in the one office rather than is the case at present where the wife has to go to two separate offices — the health board office and the social welfare office — to get the minimum income to which she is entitled under the supplementary welfare allowance scheme.

I am not happy with the provisions of section 18 of the Bill which provides that coverage for occupational injury benefit will be extended to members of the Garda Síochána. The Garda will be covered for a restricted range of occupational injury benefit, taking account of the benefits payable under the sick pay schemes, on similar lines as apply in the case of civil servants. This is the thin edge of the wedge. In his budget speech, the Minister for Finance put forward a proposal that he was going to consider the extension of full PRSI to civil and public servants. I am amazed that the Minister talks about a restricted range of occupational injury benefits. What does he mean by this?

My understanding is that the only way these people can be accommodated is under clause (b) or (d) of the PRSI code. Under clause (b) the benefits include contributory widow's pension, contributory orphan's allowance, deserted wife's benefit and limited occupational injuries benefit. Clause (d) covers full occupational injury benefit in addition to the other three. However, a garda, under the sick pay scheme, is entitled to 365 days sick leave with full pay in any four year period. I am sure the Minister is aware that occupational injury benefit lasts for a period of six months only from the date of the injury. The vast majority, 99.9 per cent of the Garda, will be paid full pay under their own sick scheme and will not be eligible to claim full occupational injury benefit. The only other benefit they may be entitled to in cases of serious injury is a disability pension. Such pension will be very small because few people are found to be wholly disabled. If a garda were found to be disabled to any substantial degree he would be compensated under the provisions of the Garda Síochána (Compensation) Acts, 1941 and 1945.

The provisions of section 18 of this Bill are unclear if not dishonest, from a cursory examination. It would appear the Minister is extending the provisions of a scheme to a group of State employees knowing that they will never benefit from it. I would appeal to the Minister to reexamine the overall position. I have checked and have found that no garda will benefit from the provisions of this section. Perhaps the Minister has other reasons for the insertion of this section but, on having checked with members of the force, I have discovered that no garda will be claiming that occupational injuries benefit.

I want to comment briefly on the provisions of sections 12 and 13. It would be appropriate for the Minister to have his colleague, the Minister for Justice, reexamine the procedures in relation to the enforcement of court orders. Where a woman satisfies a local officer or departmental official that she is married to the person making the claim and has a maintenance order against him, then automatically, without the consent of her spouse, the Department should issue separate payments thus alleviating much anxiety and stress on the part of the wife and children who very frequently must go from office to office in search of an income to sustain them. I am sure the Minister has had much experience of cases in which, when an allowance is awarded to a wife, a week or two later the husband ceases to pay maintenance. On checking with her legal advisor she may well be told she will have to come back to the court. Therefore, it is essential that the Minister discuss with his colleague, the Minister for Justice, how best that kind of hardship can be alleviated.

I hear this evening much repetition of comments made in this House over the years. I want to deal with one or two. I totally support the Minister in any action he takes to eliminate abuse because, whether we like it or not, abuse does take place. However, whenever one throws out a net to catch offenders, innocent victims will always be caught. I would also appeal to the Minister to redirect any savings effected through the elimination of abuse back into social welfare in order to provide a reasonable income for those unfortunate people in need of it. I do not think that is happening. For example, I do not think the £40 million saved last year on the elimination of such abuse was redirected to those in need of social welfare benefits. I go along with the Minister in any action he takes to eliminate abuse as long as the relevant savings go to the benefit of those in need of them.

There is another matter that may be worthy of examination and to which I may have referred earlier in this House. Thirty-three thousand young people emigrate annually, some to countries where they are considered to be illegal immigrants, where they take up employment but cannot register for any benefits. I have often wondered whether they could be accommodated in contributing to our social welfare system while away so that, on their return, they would be entiteld to something from the State. It is a proposal I have been turning about in my mind for some time. Perhaps the Minister would seek the advice of his officials as to how we might accommodate those people. If they could be included in our social welfare system it would be a worth-while exercise rather than leaving them to return from, say, America, Australia or elsewhere, cap in hand, to the State to help them when they should be legally entitled to some benefits.

A number of Members commented this evening on our inability to prevent young people leaving their homes. I have decent parents coming to me complaining that their son or daughter has left home, gone into some type of flat or what might be described as dosshouses in order to ensure they get full unemployment assistance. We should remember that young people need and demand independence. Young people who leave home and the advice and protection of their parents often become involved in the perpetration of the vandalism that abounds, not to mention drugs. If young persons entitled to the maximum unemployment assistance are refused, they tend to leave home and go where they will receive the maximum benefit. I have seen examples of young persons receiving meagre amounts of £2.10 because their fathers or mothers may be working. I appeal to the Minister to examine this problem because anything that can be done in that respect would be to the benefit of our youth, would afford them independence and perhaps prevent them emigrating. When replying, perhaps the Minister would clarify the point I have raised.

It is not my wish to come into this House and accuse the Minister of being uncaring or anything of that nature. I know it is the Minister's desire to meet people's needs. The Government collectively must accept full responsibility for what is happening in our country today and the poverty that exists. It is sad to see families living on tinned food, awaiting the weekend for something more substantial. Believe me, that type of poverty does exist. I heard a Member of this House, whom I know to be a tremendously dedicated worker, speak this evening, I refer to Deputy Wallace who lives in such an area. He is witnessing the type of poverty I am prepared to stand up and say exists in my city and in the country generally.

I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak on the Social Welfare Bill, 1989. I would like to comment briefly on aspects of the Bill. There have been many other speakers this afternoon and evening, and I will endeavour not to be repetitious.

The level of attention, and indeed the priority, given to the entire area of social welfare by the Minister and this Government is without precedent. Over the past two years, the Minister, Deputy Woods, has addressed himself to the mammoth task of streamlining the system in the specific interest of genuine recipients. He has striven to reduce, with a view to ultimately eliminating, numerous anomalies in the social welfare sphere. Simultaneously, he has waged his own brand of war on those who contrive to defraud the system. The Minister's efforts have been hugely successful in both these aims.

It is obvious that the Minister has given priority to ensuring that the needs of people who depend on social welfare are adhered to in the most practical way, thus ensuring an improvement in living standards for the less well off and needy sector of our society. This is merely a continuation of the long standing modus operandi of Fianna Fáil. While we have heard certain promises and undertakings from other regimes with regard to improving the social welfare system, and correcting anomalies that have existed down throught the years, only Fianna Fáil have consistently prioritised the welfare of the needy.

We have long lists of firsts in this regard. Free travel was first introduced by a Fianna Fáil Government in 1967. The free electricity scheme was also introduced in 1967 and the free television licence was introduced in 1968. Free telephone rental was first introduced by Fianna Fáil in Government in 1978 and the free bottled gas scheme was introduced by a Fianna Fáil Government in 1978. Again, the national free fuel schemes were introduced by Fianna Fáil in 1980 and in 1988. Old age pensioners, for instance have always been treated extremely well by Fianna Fáil in Government. The importance of the well being and dignity of our older citizens has never ceased to be a priority. Testimony to this is the 25 per cent increase in the old age pension in the period 1980 to 1982 under a Fianna Fáil regime.

For me one of the most praiseworthy and meritorious aspects of the Minister's policy on social welfare is the significant and positive attention he has given to the plight of the long-term unemployed. This has resulted in this sector being provided with a cumulative increase of 25 per cent over the past two budgets. We all know how distressing unemployment can be and how it can adversely affect the individual, the family and dependants. It is even worse for those who are in this position for a long period of time. The economic implications and effects on one's dignity causes serious stress. It is gratifying therefore for these people to realise that someone cares and appreciates their position in very tangible terms — a 25 per cent increase at a time when the inflation rate is approximately 2 per cent is a very substantial increase in real terms. In effect, it means that a family consisting of a father, mother and five children, where the breadwinner is long-term unemployed, will receive an income of £145.90 per week, when one includes child benefit. This represents an increase of £26.80. This must have the effect of raising morale and making for a happier home life.

The special emphasis on the needs of the family, particularly the larger family on low income, is a most welcome aspect of the Bill. In this regard, the payment of the higher rate of child benefit, £21.75 for the fifth and subsequent children, will be of great assistance to larger families. The child benefit payment has come to be regarded as an important contributor to the support of the family, and particularly to the mother because this is a specific allocation to the mother. The introduction of the child dependant allowance in respect of children up to age 19 of the long-term social welfare recipients where the child continues in full time education is particularly welcome. I would very much like to see a further extension of the age limit, and indeed the Minister indicated in his speech that he will consider this as the availability of resources permits.

Among the many anomalies in the social welfare system which this Minister has tackled is the difference in rural and urban rates of unemployment assistance. Heretofore two rates of unemployment assistance have obtained — one for persons residing in urban areas and another for those in rural Ireland. People categorised as rural residents received a lower rate than their urban counterparts. This distinction is now being ended and a standard level of payment will obtain throughout the country. This will result in those in the heretofore rural category receiving an additional £1.20 and £1.30 per week for short-term and long-term claims respectively. This will be particularly welcome to the people who will benefit in my own neck of the woods, County Wicklow. I am very pleased to be able to relay this information to them.

The Garda Síochána will now be able to avail of occupational injuries insurance on a par with that provided to civil servants. Heretofore a garda had recourse to compensation for malicious injuries but now injuries, other than malicious injuries, received in the course of their official duties will qualify for disability and survivors benefits. Heretofore this was only available to civil servants and not to the Garda Síochána. It is gratifying to see that this omission was rectified by appropriate action.

A very important and welcome element of this Bill is the introduction of a new scheme for widowers and deserted husbands who are left with children to provide for. Over the years there has been provision for the support of deserted wives. It is recognised at last that husbands and children can also be deserted. This is the first time that this recognition has been accompanied by positive action resulting in deserted husbands with dependent children receiving State support. The loss of a wife whether by death or otherwise can have a devastating effect on children. This new social welfare system scheme will give practical help to these people.

I am particularly enamoured with the Minister's appreciation of and attention to foster parents. Child care is very topical at the moment. In certain circumstances fostering can offer much more to the child in need of care than can institutionalisation. Fostering provides a family environment, a more natural environment than institutional care. Fostering is also much more cost effective in that it costs only about one third of the cost of keeping a child in an institution. The problem is that the recruitment of people willing to foster is difficult. Therefore, any measure to ease this difficulty is praiseworthy and is to be welcomed. The Minister, with a view to endeavouring to overcome disincentives in this area, is providing for the exemption of fostering allowances from the assessment of means for social assistance schemes. Section 15 covers this innovation.

The total to be spent on social welfare in 1989 is £2,600 million. This comes from the hard working taxpayers so it is imperative that it be effectively and efficiently controlled and distributed. It should only go to those genuinely entitled to it. It must not be permitted to be siphoned off by tricksters, defrauders or others who would attempt to lay hands on what is not rightfully theirs. Since coming to office, the Minister has demonstrated that he is ultra-conscious of fraud in his area of responsibility. Over the past two years, he has taken positive action to curb fraud. A variety of measures have been introduced with the express purpose of eliminating fraudulent activity and abuse of the various schemes. I am pleased that in this Bill the Minister is continuing along that road. Mechanisms have been included to control untoward activities in certain specified industries in which these activities are known to occur. It is well known that fraud obtains whereby people work and draw a wage while drawing social welfare benefit. This malpractice must not be allowed to continue. Apart from the undue strain it puts on the system, it is grossly undesirable in that it militates against the genuine conscientious employer endeavouring to carry on his business with integrity, providing valuable employment under the law while competing with the illegal or cowboy operator. In these circumstances, the cowboy has an obvious financial advantage. This must be ended.

Another important point to highlight is that moneys paid out as a result of fraud do not emanate from a mysterious bottomless supply source. It comes directly from the taxpayer who is trying to live in a honourable and legitimate fashion. I have always held that the main thrust of any endeavours to combat abuse should be aimed at the employer, the rogue employer who has so much to gain at the expense of others. I am particularly pleased that these wrongdoers are being specifically targeted. I congratulate the Minister on the legislation introduced in this regard which in effect is an escalation of his battle against fraud. I wish him well in his sterling efforts.

Another area of abuse now being addressed relates to deserting spouses. This practice has been rampant. One spouse, usually the husband, leaves the home, and abandons his responsibilities leaving the State to pick up the tab for providing support for the dependants. Once again the genuine taxpayer has to pay the piper. This Bill provides measures to pursue these deserters and force them to contribute to the support of their dependants. The State will be in a position to recoup from these people part of the cost of the social welfare moneys paid to their deserted kin.

This Minister has portrayed an amazing grasp of his subject. He is totally in touch with the real world and understands precisely what it is like to depend on social welfare benefits. The Minister does not need to depend on socio-economic reports to know what is going on. He knows the basic needs of the people. That is his strength. It is what spurs him to provide for that sector for which he has accepted responsibility.

There are many imaginative and innovative aspects to this Bill which is part of the ongoing strategy of this Minister whose plans are to proceed along this road with a view to pinpointing poverty as a target to be reduced and, one would hope, ultimately eliminated so that the under privileged and the needy will be provided for in a progressive way. All in all this Bill portrays the underlying caring approach of this Government and this Minister to the needy in society.

It would be wrong of anyone to argue that the Minister has not made advances in dealing with the social welfare system or that he has not eliminated some anomalies and introduced certain improvements. Despite these improvements, however, mainly administrative improvements, the poor remain poor and overall the best that can be said in relation to this Bill and the budget is that the poor will be no worse off. Doubtless some will be slightly better off.

The problem of fraud was referred to by Deputy Wyse of the Progressive Democrats and the last speaker from Fianna Fáil praised the Minister's efforts to eliminate fraud. I do not have any great complaint about that, but the idea of social welfare fraud should be kept in proportion. When you consider that the tax amnesty brought in some £500 million in unpaid taxes——

I am sorry to interrupt the Deputy, perhaps he would move the adjournment of the debate.

Debate adjourned.
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