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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 11 May 1989

Vol. 389 No. 9

Adjournment Debate. - Bord Pleanála Appeals.

I thank the Minister for coming into the House on this matter. I had a Priority Question down for answer last Tuesday but regrettably for a reason with which the House is familiar I was unable to be here. I appreciate the opportunity to explore this question now.

In my capacity as spokesman for the Environment with responsibility for the construction industry, I am aware of a growing problem in areas of economic growth in the construction industry that is being compounded by the delays in processing appeals in An Bord Pleanála. This is a problem within the direct control of the Minister and which can be resolved if the Minister is prepared to take effective action.

The manifesto on which the Government were elected proposed among other things that An Bord Pleanála "shall be required to decide on appeals within four months." The House will be aware that there is no fixed time limit within which An Bord Pleanála must respond to an appeal in contrast to the two month period which prevails with local authorities. The Fianna Fáil manifesto also stated that the period needed to make planning decisions should not be unnecessarily protracted and that delays in granting planning permission and decisions involving unnecessarily complicated conditions were a costly hindrance to development and often involved the postponement of desirable projects which had a high employment content. In the Programme for National Recovery which was negotiated with the social partners the Government said on page 23 at paragraph 25:

The construction industry will benefit from the recovery of demand from investment in the private sector. The Programme will improve the climate for private sector investment which will support the construction industry. The development of the Custom House Docks site which will commence shortly exemplifies this.

It has come to my attention from representations made to me by people who have suffered from long inexplicable delays, from documents published in the newspapers and by the CIF, the most recent one being in yesterday's Irish Times, that builders' costs have been increased due to the planning backlog. I will refer later to that interview given by Mr. Michael Greene one of the directors of the CIF which is headlined “Builders' Costs Increase Due to Planning Backlog.” These references indicate that there has been a recovery in demand in the construction industry over the last nine to 12 months due to a combination of factors including the reduction in interest rates, the existence of the designated areas and an improved economic climate world-wide as well as the fact that a lot of British financial institutions looking somewhat warily at their own overheated market in the UK are looking at an Irish construction market that for one reason or another has not had a lot of activity over the past five to six years. Fortunately for all concerned the industry is beginning to move again.

It is essential, if the Government are to give effect to their election manifesto, to the Programme for National Recovery and to the tone of the reply which the Minister gave to the priority question on Tuesday last, that certain steps be taken. The Minister should fix a time limit by regulation. My understanding is that existing legislation enables the Minister for the Environment to fix time limits for decision making in An Bord Pleanála, subject to certain safeguards. The right of a third party or a disappointed applicant to appeal a decision to An Bord Pleanála is sacrosanct and is not in question nor is the need to have that right properly guaranteed. However, the need for a concerned third party or a disappointed applicant to get a speedy and effective response to an application to An Bord Pleanála is extremely important. Because of staff levels in An Bord Pleanála at the moment decisions which might otherwise be made and transmitted to third parties are being delayed. The Minister in his reply last Tuesday said that certain steps had been taken and that he has asked An Bord Pleanála to improve their procedures internally. The Minister said in his reply:

Time targets set at my request by the Board in 1988 to reduce a backlog from 1987 have been met. In this regard comparison between the figures for 1987 and 1988 are significant. The overall volume of appeals received in 1988 at 2257 was somewhat less than the 1987 figure of 2439 while at the same time the actual number of appeals disposed of by the Board in 1988 was higher at 2369 than the 1987 figure of 2237.

The Minister's reply while factually accurate misses the intention of my question. We are not at the level of construction activity of 1987 or 1988. We have moved on from that for the reasons I have already referred to. There is now a serious delay within An Bord Pleanála. If, as that question and answer exchange implies there was a backlog in 1987 when the construction industry was still in a period of recession, then the present level of activity which by all accounts has increased considerably, means that if staff levels have not been adequately increased in the meantime the problem of the backlog and delay as described by Mr. Michael Greene in The Irish Times yesterday, is becoming more acute. Whatever explanation the Minister is getting from his officials and from An Bord Pleanála, I suggest that he contact and talk to various sectors of the construction industry — the professionals — the developers, CIF or the construction committee of the ICTU. In those areas where there is intensive economic activity, the experience on the ground is different from what the overall figures might suggest.

Let me go into this in some detail. In the Minister's reply the national figures quoted include appeals in relation to household extensions in any part of the country — which is clearly important to the person directly involved — and major development proposals in those parts of urban areas that have received designated status. It is my view — and I have experience at professional as well as political level — that not all of the local authorities in whose areas there are designated areas are facilitating planning applications or proposals. Naturally some local authorities are exemplary but others treat such applications for privately owned property in designated areas without any distinction to applications from any other part of their functional area. If the decision on the application is subsequently appealed to An Bord Pleanála there is no fast tracking available to ensure that the application will be processed effectively.

I am saying there is a contradiction in Government policy if a deliberate policy of reducing public expenditure was brought about to reduce interest rates and thus induce confidence which results in increased levels of construction investment. The increased investment manifests itself in increased applications for planning permission in designated areas and elsewhere, and at the end of this long process, which has been very painful because the health and education services paid for the creation of confidence by massive reductions in their own areas, it does not make sense and it is not smart management to have an administrative bottleneck within An Bord Pleanála.

The Minister could reply that my special plea for a fast track for the designated areas benefiting from tax incentives and other inducements, is discriminatory. I would agree and it is for that reason that I am asking him to introduce a fixed time limit for planning appeals and by way of regulation to set down very clear criteria as to the method of communication and the time limits for third party responses when providing additional information and so on.

In the relevant legislation passed by this House we have referred to vexatious appeals. However, I do not believe that that section has been adequately or courageously used by An Bord Pleanála. In fact, in some cases there have been vexatious refusals by the local authorities, but I know this is not covered by the planning legislation. In addition to dealing with An Bord Pleanála, I would ask the Minister to consider writing to local authorities and asking them to respond effectively and efficiently to planning development applications and where possible to give a constructive response, in other words, a permission with a series of conditions, rather than a refusal with a series of reasons.

Notwithstanding the overall merits of the development plan and the rights of the local authority to exercise it, if the Government are to reduce public expenditure and aim at creating a climate of investment geared, as is stated in their own manifesto and in the Programme for National Recovery, to get the construction industry moving again, it will create enormous frustration if they do not move to resolve what is now a planning backlog. This is not just my word, but the CIF which is not exactly a paid up member of the Labour Party——

——not yet.

——and is not the sort of body that would rush to the defence of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions or members on the left of the political divide. There is a great deal of employment in the construction industry both direct and indirect, and inadvertently, though certainly not maliciously but nevertheless inevitably, it is being frustrated and delayed in a manner I believe is unnecessary.

The Minister has within his own power, as I understand it, the right and authority first to make extra resources available to An Bord Pleanála, because that is fundamentally part of the problem, second, to make new regulations within the framework of the planning legislation including the legislation which established and amended An Bord Pleanála, and third, to streamline the operation of that board and the rights of third party appellants and aggrieved parties without in any way undermining or taking away the fundamental rights of citizens in relation to the planning process.

I put down this question and the Minister answered on Tuesday and I have now made the points I would have raised by way of supplementary question had I been present. I conclude by asking the Minister to bear in mind the constructive manner in which this query is raised. It is not a negative criticism of the operation of his Department. I am simply drawing to his attention what has been reported to me at political and professional levels, as to what exists in the real world in areas where there is a high level of economic demand and where unnecessary delays are being caused.

First, I fully understand and appreciate why Deputy Quinn could not be here on Tuesday afternoon. I want to put on record that I know the Deputy had personal business to attend to. I fully appreciate why the Deputy has raised this matter; he wants a better system put in place if we can do so.

The need for the speedy determination of planning appeals is accepted by everybody, and I have conveyed to An Bord Pleanála my earnest desire that there should be no unnecessary delay in the appeal process. I have given time to this over the past two years, and I do not accept that any failures on my part have led to delays in the planning appeals process. I have been actively engaged trying to speed up the process. Notwithstanding that, I am conscious of the needs of the board and detailed proposals submitted by the board are carefully examined having regard to such matters as the volume of work, existing staff numbers and the Government policy relating to staffing in the public service. If a sustainable case is made by the board for extra staff, it will be sympathetically considered within those constraints.

I might add that my Department authorised the board to instal a sophisticated computer system in recent years to enhance their capacity to discharge their public duties effectively and efficiently. The board took the view that the installation of this system would provide for a significant improvement in the efficiency of internal operational procedures and contribute towards a reduction in the backlog of outstanding appeals. It was envisaged by the board that the advantages and benefits would accrue in the area of achieving more and better results from the staff and from other resources. Therefore, the board have available to them the best modern technology to ensure that the job in hand is discharged properly and efficiently. I have to state that there is no shortage of money as far as technology is concerned. It is the board's stated policy that procedures and systems for handling appeals are kept under ongoing assessment and reviewed to ensure that all appeals are dealt with as expeditiously as possible and all avoidable delays are eliminated. The board also have a policy of ensuring that all cases where there is job creation potential are given priority and dealt with as expeditiously as possible.

I have met with the chairman and officials of An Bord Pleanála and conveyed my concern to them that there should be no unnecessary delays in the processing of planning appeals. I put it to them that they should refine their procedures within their existing powers under the law. The board's performance is constantly monitored by the Department and me in this regard. Following a review last year of their procedures the board indicated to me that priority was being given to disposing of time consuming appeals involving larger developments. A specific programme for the disposal of all long term cases was also undertaken by the board with the objective of eliminating all cases over six months old by the end of last year. This was met in large measure.

The board have also taken other measures which should reduce delays in the appeals system generally. Following the recent review of their procedures the board informed my Department that procedures under sections 16 to 19, inclusive, of the 1983 Planning and Development Act, relating to vexatious appeals and time limits imposed by the board for the submission of grounds of appeal and documentation, have been tightened up to eliminate unnecessary delays. I personally brought that matter to their attention. Procedures are now in place which allow for the immediate dismissal of appeals if the appropriate grounds of appeal are not submitted in the first instance. Time allowed to appellants and planning authorities for the submission of appropriate grounds of appeal and documentation is being curtailed to the minimum possible. The board are also taking more time-effective measures in dealing with appeals against conditions as they are empowered to do under section 19 of the 1983 Act.

I have written to the chairman of the board emphasising that I expect their targets to be met and improved on in view of the effect that delays in the appeals procedure can have in holding up, as the Deputy quite rightly says, worthwhile development projects adversely affecting job creation. The position has improved to the extent that by the end of 1988 over 95 per cent of appeals were less than six months old, the comparable figure for the end of 1987 being 89 per cent. In global terms, the total number of appeals disposed of in 1988 at 2,369 was higher than the previous year at 2,237. Naturally I expect the board to maintain constant vigilance to ensure that their performance holds up and continues to improve.

The public perception of the problems caused by the appeals system appears to be somewhat distorted. The statistics indicate that the appeals process is now being used less frequently in relative terms. In 1987, the number of appeals was 7.6 per cent of decisions made by planning authorities in that year while it was close to 10 per cent in 1982. Of the appeals lodged, third party appeals represented only between 20 per cent and 25 per cent of all appeals leaving a net third party appeal rate of only 1 per cent to 2 per cent of all planning authority decisions. This is a very low rate of third party dissatisfaction with planning authority decisions and accordingly the board cannot be seen to be a major stumbling block in the development process.

While the board can have tightened up procedures there will always be a small number of appeals which are delayed, for example, there is a need to hold oral hearings in certain cases. The board have indicated also that developers themselves have asked in certain cases that appeals be held in abeyance pending the outcome of discussion or negotiation at local level. Very often this is the reason for appeals being delayed. As a result of the steps taken by the board at my instigation last year the position at the end of March this year was that 56 per cent of all appeals were being dealt with within three months and 94 per cent were being dealt within six months. I expect the board to make every effort to ensure that these performances are improved upon.

I was pleased to hear Deputy Quinn say that there is a recovery in demand in the construction industry. It might be fair to say that increased activity in construction does not necessarily mean an increase in the number of appeals or increased delays. It might very well do but if the trend is as I suggest only a very small percentage of applications are appealed to An Bord Pleanála. I am hoping that this percentage can be reduced further.

Deputy Quinn also referred to vexatious appeals. This is one of the issues I raised with the board. They have taken steps to improve the position and are now dealing with this matter much more expeditiously than in the past. I was surprised to hear the Deputy say that applications or appeals in respect of developments in designated areas should be fast tracked. I would be disappointed to hear that planning authorities had not dealt with them as expeditiously as possible as developments in designated areas have contributed enormously to the recovery in the construction industry. I am going to follow this matter up personally to see what exactly is going on in relation to the designated areas. This will help me in another way in that at present I am drawing up a progress report, both for my own benefit and that of anybody else who may wish to see it, on what has been happening in the 14 designated areas outside of the city.

There is no separate system to enable planning applications for developments in the designated areas to be dealt with as expeditiously as possible.

There is no separate system. I would be hard pressed to recommend that there should be. If someone has a development going and they wish to spend their own hard earned money or money made available to them from any source I would be hard pressed to make a case that they should somehow have to wait in the queue behind those seeking tax breaks in connection with development in other areas.

The Deputy suggested that we should impose a time limit by way of legislation. I would be happy to do that for the Deputy if I could. I think this would have been done by previous Ministers if it had been possible to do so. The Deputy is privy to the advice given by the law officers. It is not seen to be possible from a legal point of view. I regret this. The advice I have received is the same as that tendered by other law officers to previous Ministers and Governments, including one closer to the Deputy. Everybody would like to do this. I would, too. I give the Deputy an undertaking that I will take another look at this matter to see if there is some way it can be done. If we could do so the matter would be settled. It would be the easiest and most simplest thing to do. I am stating here and now that I am willing to do so but I have been advised that it is not legally possible for me to do so as things stand at present. However, it is worth taking another look at it and I know I would have the support of the House in doing so.

It is the answer.

I know it is and I would have the support of all sides of the House. I will look into the few matters the Deputy has raised and pay particular attention to the possibility of fixing a time limit. If there is any way I can do this I will. I thank the Deputy for raising this matter. I am anxious that we get the best possible response from the appeals system. It is in all our interests that there be as few delays as possible.

The Dáil adjourned at 5.30 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 16 May 1989.

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