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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 6 Jun 1991

Vol. 409 No. 5

Payment of Wages Bill 1991: [ Seanad ]: Second Stage.

I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

The legislation before the House is forward-looking in its approach. The Bill establishes for the first time a range of rights for all employees in relation to the payment of wages. The Bill enshrines three basic rights, the right of every employee to a readily negotiable mode of wage payment; the right of every employee to a written statement of wages and deductions; and protection for every employee against unlawful deductions from wages.

The Bill originates in a discussion document I published in November 1987. The document examined, among other things, the options for repeal of the Truck Acts and for new legislation governing the payment of wages. The views of all the interests concerned were sought in the related consultative process. More recently, arising from the Programme for Economic and Social Progress, I undertook to finalise legislation which would facilitate the move towards non-cash wage payment. The programme committed me to the introduction of a wages Bill during the spring of 1991. The Bill was initiated in the Seanad on 23 May — having overshot its deadline by just a few weeks.

The motivation for this Bill stems from a variety of inter-related concerns. For one thing, we in Ireland are much behind our European competitors in changing over to non-cash modes of wage payment. A comparison of statistics available from a number of EC countries shows that Ireland has a very high percentage of employees paid wages in cash. Denmark has probably the lowest percentage, with only about 5 per cent of employees receiving cash wages. Other countries, such as the former West Germany, Belgium and Spain, report figures in the range 10 per cent to 25 per cent. A survey published by the FIE in 1987 indicated that as many as 45 per cent of all employees and 51 per cent of blue collar employees in this country were in receipt of wages in cash. Happily, more recent research suggests that there has been some movement in the direction of non-cash wages since that date, but much remains to be done.

The statistics strongly suggest that many firms have yet to exploit the advantages offered by new technology in the area of wage payment. With computers now a feature of even the smallest business concern, there is every reason for optimism that cost-effective modes of wages payment will be utilised increasingly to the benefit of both employers and employees. Often existing computer capacity can be adapted to handle the payroll. Present technology even allows employers to transmit wage payment information from their own computer records on tape or disk to compatible systems in banks and other financial institutions. I understand that the resulting savings in security costs and payroll staff can be significant.

My concern about the incidence of cash wages in Ireland is conditioned by a number of other factors. Clearly, such a high level of cash wages cannot but affect the cost competitiveness of business both here in Ireland and abroad. Important, too, are the unquantifiable benefits associated with an increase in non-cash modes of wage payment. I am thinking here of the number of armed robberies of payroll cash which have taken place in recent decades and the ongoing security costs related to their prevention. Anything that can be done to reduce or eliminate this problem will not only improve the quality of life all round but will also stamp out a serious and ever present threat to life and limb.

For the future, there is an emerging trend away from the use of cash and more and more towards a non-cash economy. Even today almost everyone utilises plastic money, whether it is a card that gives access to a 24 hour automatic teller machine, a cheque book and cheque card or one of the wide variety of credit cards available. Exploratory initiatives such as the POSVAN Project give pointers to the possible shape of financial transactions in the future. One option examined by the project, which is backed by Telecom Éireann among others, is the debiting of bank accounts at the point of sale. So, for example, computer links placed at supermarket check-outs might in the future allow a customer, then and there, to debit his own account by the amount of the grocery bill and to credit that of the supermarket.

By the turn of the century, developments of this kind and others may well have revolutionised the way we regulate our financial affairs. It is no more than common sense that the legislation governing wage payment should be sufficiently flexible to allow for the payment of wages by new and emerging facilities for money transfer.

In recent years, the Truck Acts have been seen as a major barrier to the more widespread use of non-cash methods of wage payment. The Payment of Wages Act, 1979, sought to address this issue and was in some measure successful. However, that Act stopped short of a fundamental review of the Truck Acts. The Bill proposes repeal of the Truck Acts, 1743 to 1896, together with the Payment of Wages Act, 1979.

My Second Stage speech in the Seanad outlined for Senators some of the historical background to those Acts. Indeed, The Cork Examiner reporting the previous day's debate said: “you could almost smell the dust yesterday as Minister Bertie Ahern brushed the cobwebs off legislation dating back more than 200 years”. I do not intend to dwell on the historical perspective today.

Suffice to say that the Truck Acts take their name from an old English word meaning to "trade" or "barter". Under the truck system, workers were often required to accept domestic goods and provisions in lieu of cash wages or to take credit at the company shop which often stocked inferior goods at inflated prices. Daniel O'Connell contributed to the debate in the House of Commons on the Truck Act, 1831. He described a variation of the system on the following lines "a manufacturer who sets up a shop might pay his men in money at one counter and compel them, by threats of turning them out of employ, to spend it at the other counter".

The Truck Acts, contrary to the impression that might be conveyed by their name, far from favouring "truck", outlawed the practice of paying manual workers their wages in kind. They required, instead, that manual workers should be paid in "current coin of the realm". The Acts also addressed abuses such as unlawful deductions from wages and the practice of some employers of charging interest on advances of pay.

A significant feature of this Bill is that it provides for the first time a range of protections for all workers in connection with the payment of wages. Deputies will note that I have imposed no qualifying periods of service or minimum hours thresholds for eligibility under the Act. I have also taken on board in the Bill issues raised in this House during March in the context of the Worker Protection (Regular Part-time Employees) Act, 1991. During the passage of that Act, concern was expressed by a number of contributors to the debate about workers employed through employment agencies and on short term contracts. I was unable, for reasons explained in replying to that debate, to allay the fears of Deputies in so far as they related to the part-time workers' legislation. Happily, the difficulties encountered in the case of other legislation are of no relevance to the Bill now before the House. Accordingly, the provisions of this Bill extend both to workers employed through employment agencies and workers on short term contracts of employment.

The legislation provides a framework which will facilitate the move to non-cash wages. The will and the action necessary to effect this move must come from the interests themselves. Unlike some other desirable objectives, arrangements for non-cash wages are likely to prove financially sound for all those involved. For employers, there are the benefits of efficiency, security and cost competitiveness which I have already outlined; for financial institutions, there are advantages associated with the electronic transfer of data and the opportunity to reach a wider base of likely customers. Employers for their part will share with employers the security that goes with non-cash wages.

One criticism of the move to non-cash wages is that it delivers employees, who would not otherwise be their clients, into the hands of the banks. There is a sense in which this argument cannot be rebutted. Any of the readily negotiable modes of wage payment, other than cash, necessarily involves the mediation of a reliable financial institution. If employees are to avoid contact with financial institutions at all costs, there is no option but for the payment of their wages in cash.

However, this argument is also concerned with two other issues. There is the concern that the legislation may secure unwittingly for the banks a monopoly in the matter of wage payment and the concern that low paid employees will not be as welcome customers in the bank as their high income counterparts.

To take the first issue, the list of acceptable modes of wage payment in the Bill includes all the widely accepted and readily negotiable modes of money transfer. Clearly, the services of the main commercial banks are among them — cheques, bank drafts and credit transfer facilities. However, they are by no means the only options. The financial services of An Post are also acceptable for wage payment purposes as are those of the Trustee Savings Bank.

The Trustee Savings Bank was set up under statute by the Minister for Finance and has somewhat longer hours of business than the main commercial banks. Building societies are also competing nowadays in the provision of personal financial services. The terms of the Bill would allow, for example, the credit transfer of wages to a building society account. Again, the business hours of building societies are more likely to suit employees who find normal banking hours inconvenient. I should add, also, that cash remains an acceptable mode of wages payment.

Clearly, many employers and employees may choose to have wages paid through one of the commercial banks. On the other hand, the alternative options provided in the Bill will, no doubt, appeal to some employees and their employers. There is provision in the Bill to add to the list of acceptable modes of wage payment, if and when new modes of money transfer become available and prove their worth.

The notion that low paid employees have little to gain from the banking system touches some deep preconceptions about banks and about the capability of low paid employees to look out for themselves. Understandably, banks, like all commercial enterprises, may have a preference for the customer that is likely to profit them most though, no doubt, like other businesses, they will deal with the less profitable customer too. Indeed, banking is one business in which the modest client with a good track record is appreciated.

Turning to the low paid employee, it would be a mistake to legislate on the basis that he or she has not the wisdom to order his or her own affairs. The low paid employee will know, better than anyone else, both the limits and the extent of the benefits to him or her of opening a bank account, and the nature of the account, if any, whether current or deposit, that best suits his or her needs. In any event, not all modes of non-cash wage payment require an employee to have a bank account. An employee may arrange with his or her employer to be paid by bank draft or through An Post or by some other mode of payment where encashment is straightforward on presentation at the appropriate institution.

There are, of course, important issues to be resolved by employers and employees in the move to non-cash wages. Some employees retain rights to particular modes of wage payment, either contractually, as a result of custom and practice, or pursuant to this Bill. The timing and other details of the change to new modes of wage payment are, in these cases, matters for negotiation at the level of the firm.

There may be, in some cases, a question of a financial inducement to encourage workers to make the transition to non-cash wages. One rationale for such an inducement would be to cushion employees against banking costs which they might not otherwise incur. Many employees, though now paid in cash, will already maintain bank accounts. A minority of employees will have operated solely in the cash economy until the changeover to non-cash wages. A survey conducted in 1986 estimated that 65 per cent of employees who were paid wages in cash also operated bank accounts. Another way of regarding such a financial inducement would be as a profit sharing exercise. The savings arising from the changeover to non-cash wages might be shared by the employer with the employees, either as a one-off lump sum payment or in the form of a small but permanent increase in wages. Individual circumstances will dictate, also, whether the convenience of the parties warrants the giving of paid time off for banking purposes.

I have provided in the Bill for transitional arrangements in the case of certain employees. The arrangements are intended to allow an employee currently paid in cash to continue to be so paid until such time as an alternative method of wage payment is agreed with the employer. The arrangements will also allow manual workers, formerly paid in cash, who have entered into an agreement to non-cash wages under the Payment of Wages Act, 1979, to revert to cash wages in accordance with the terms of the agreement.

The transitional arrangements have been criticised on the grounds that the legislation does not go far enough in pushing the move to cashless pay. Critics of the arrangements appear to envisage that the legislation would facilitate a move to non-cash methods of wage payment based on some level of compulsion. There are, of course, serious industrial relations and other difficulties inherent in such an approach. Equally important, perhaps, are the reasonable expectations of the categories of worker involved that they should be treated fairly in the context of the Bill. It is my experience also that undue haste may be counter-productive, particularly where a fundamental legislative change is envisaged. An incremental approach to change will often achieve its purpose more fully and more satisfactorily than any plans to accomplish an overnight solution, however well intentioned.

There are good economic and financial reasons for encouraging the move to non-cash wage payment, for the economy, for employers and, perhaps to a lesser extent, for employees. Like the critics of the transitional arrangements, it is my aim to help to effect a move to non-cash wages as speedily and effectively as possible. I have, therefore, looked in some detail at the case against the transitional arrangements but have been disinclined to accept it, for the reasons already stated, among others. The Bill, accordingly, reflects my considered position on this matter and seeks the House's approval for it.

Let me now bring Deputies briefly through the main provisions of the Bill. The Bill requires every employer to pay wages by one of the modes of payment listed in section 2. As I have already mentioned, the list covers all the widely recognised means of paying money — from cheques and money orders to bank drafts, credit transfers and cash. Rapid future change in this area is to be anticipated because of advances in electronic data processing and other developments. I propose, therefore, to take power so that additional modes of wage payment can be added to the list in section 2 if and when new methods of money transfer are developed and gain public acceptance.

Section 3 of the Bill repeals the Truck Acts. The section also provides for the transitional arrangements which I have just described. Section 4 of the Bill imposes on employers an obligation to give to each of their employees a written statement of wages and deductions. The statement must be given to the employee at the time of wage payment, except in the case of payment by credit transfer, when the statement should be given as soon as possible thereafter.

Section 5 of the Bill is concerned with deductions from the wages of an employee. The section prohibits an employer from making a deduction from wages unless it falls within one of three categories — a deduction which is required by Statute, such as PAYE or PRSI; a deduction which is provided for in the contract of employment, say, pension contributions or a disciplinary fine, and a deduction to which the employee has consented in writing, such as trade union subscriptions, VHI premia or payments to a savings scheme. All other deductions are outlawed.

This section also contains further special restrictions which apply to two categories of deductions. One such category is where deductions are made in respect of either goods or services supplied by the employer and necessary to the employment. Included here, for example, would be the employees' contribution towards the purchase or cleaning of work clothes or the supply of transport to work by the employer. The other category involves deductions arising from the actions of the employee, such as disciplinary fines or bad workmanship.

Sections 6 and 7 of the Bill provide a complaints and appeals procedure for employees who have been subject to unlawful deductions. The right of complaint for an employee against an unlawful deduction is to a rights commissioner in the first instance. There is a subsequent right of appeal for either the employer or the employee to the Employment Appeals Tribunal. Section 8 provides for the enforcement of a decision of a rights commissioner or a determination of the tribunal.

Section 9 empowers the Minister for Labour to appoint "authorised officers" for the purpose of ensuring compliance with the terms of the Bill. The powers conferred on "authorised officers" are similar to those provided in other protective legislation. Section 10 allows the Minister for Labour to prosecute offences arising under the Bill. Section 11 renders void any agreement which is out of keeping with the provisions of the Bill. Sections 1, 12, 13 and 14 are standard provisions relating to definitions, regulations, expenses and short title respectively. The Schedule lists all the Acts which it is proposed to repeal.

As Deputies will know, this Bill was introduced in the Seanad. An advantage of initiating a Bill there is that one benefits at an early stage from the characteristically informal and incisive scrutiny of that House. As ever, I was struck by some of the detailed contributions offered by Senators in a spirit somewhat removed from the cut and thrust of adversarial politics. In the course of the debate, Senator Ó Cuív indicated his concern to ensure that pay statements should be easily understood by employees. He instanced one or two pay statements he had come across which has proved virtually unintelligible because of the nature and extent to which abbreviations were used to describe deductions. Senator Seán Fallon raised with me by letter a fairly precise technical point relating to deductions from wages pursuant to the Bill.

I am grateful to all the Senators and to their colleagues for their stimulating contributions. The two proposals mentioned above are being considered with guidance from the office of the Parliamentary Draftsman. Depending on the outcome of that consideration, I may bring forward Government amendments on Committee Stage to encompass either one or both of the suggestions outlined.

To sum up, this Bill proposes the repeal of centuries old legislation which in its day provided significant rights for workers in the matter of payment of wages. That legislation, developed in the context of an emerging cash economy, has outlived its usefulness. Indeed, the emphasis on cash wages, so central to the Truck Acts, has proved counter-productive to progress and efficiency for some decades. For the future, legislation must take cognisance of the trend towards non-cash modes of money transfer in the economy generally and their necessary consequences for the manner of wage payment.

Despite advances in technology, the need remains, as it did when the Truck Acts were framed, to guard the wage payment rights of employees. Then, as now, the legitimate concerns of employers for cost effective and secure modes of wage payment must also be addressed. I am reasonably certain that the Bill meets the immediate requirements of each of the interests in these regards. As to the future, I am sufficiently confident, or foolish, to hope that the Bill may prove as relevant to the needs of the next century as the Truck Acts did to the needs of the last.

I commend the Bill to the House.

I do not intend to subject the Minister to the cut and thrust of adversarial politics. He seemed to fear that having escaped it in the Seanad he would be confronted by it in the Dáil. I very much welcome this Bill, the intent of which is right. Indeed it was a source of amazement to me in the days when I was a law student and we had to study the Truck Acts that at a time in the early seventies when there were stories regularly in the evening newspapers about payroll robberies by the IRA in various parts of the country, about staff in supermarkets and banks being held up at times of the week when it was known that large sums of cash were being transported from one part of a town to another, such legislation was not introduced at that stage. The fact that we have been so slow in updating our legislation has facilitated organisations like the IRA to fund their campaign of violence in the North of Ireland. It was most unfortunate that legislation such as this was not introduced by previous Governments of the different political persuasions over the years. The introduction of such legislation in years gone by was a point of contention — certainly on the part of the trade union movement who were concerned that workers' rights would not be properly protected. In some areas there were reservations on the part of employers but by and large employers were pressing for changes in the law for many years. I suspect that if we had moved away from wage payments in cash many years ago illegal organisations would not have had nearly as much money to purchase arms as they have had and that not nearly so many people would have lost their lives in the North of Ireland. I am not blaming the Minister for this. I welcome the fact that he has brought the Bill to the House but I regret that such legislation was not brought before us earlier.

In so far as the legislation will diminish the need for large sums of money to be transported by employers to their place of work on wage days or by banks and in so far as it will diminish the possibility of large scale robberies of the nature that we became familiar with over the years, this Bill is very welcome. It is also welcome because it finally brings our wage legislation into line with modern technology. Indeed many people in employment would welcome a facility — where it has not proved possible up to now to agree it with their employers because of the Truck Acts — to have their wages paid by direct bank transfer on a weekly or monthly basis. That facilitates the way people want to operate in a modern economy. People do not want to receive large sums of cash and sometimes do not want to receive cheques either because if they have bank accounts they are quite happy to have their money transferred directly into their accounts. That ensures that their money appears in their account on the day it is transferred instead of two or three days later, allowing for the delay between the time of lodging a cheque and the money having an impact on your account.

I have been critical of the Programme for Economic and Social Progress on the job front but I was pleased to see that the programme provided an agreement on the part of the Government and the social partners that legislation of this nature would come before the House. The Minister's false modesty in complying with the timescale is welcome. Too frequently we see the Minister's colleagues coming into the House from one end of the year to the next promising all sorts of legislation that they never produce, and regarding it as something of a comedy routine to promise legislation in the autumn for the following spring but in the spring to come into this House and say it will be ready for the following autumn. Some Ministers seem to think this is a point of fun. In fairness to the Minister for Labour, if he says he is going to introduce legislation in an area, his record shows that he will do so. I was somewhat amused at his self deprecating remarks when he criticised himself in the Seanad for not having the legislation in by the end of April, as he said he would but instead having it in early May. That is a refreshing approach. Far too frequently we engage in the gladiatorial political contest across the floor of this House but if somebody is doing something well they deserve to be told so. We on this side of the House will facilitate the speedy passage of the Bill, in the context not only of Second Stage today but of taking the Committee and Final Stages at the earliest date possible.

I will now address one or two matters in the legislation. I noted with interest in the Minister's speech, indeed Senator O'Keeffe had pointed it out in the Seanad, and it was something that occurred to me when I saw the Bill, that it is the intent of the Bill to ensure that all of those in the workforce get a statement as to their weekly or monthly wage and as to the purpose for which sums of money are being deducted. I am very familiar with the type of wage slips people get. For a large proportion of the workforce, their wage slips are often totally incomprehensible because of the manner in which they are set out and when what deductions are for is described, it is so abbreviated and so complex that it is virtually incomprehensible. Practically every major company have their own method of doing this and the State bodies are equally to blame. It is important that the requirements on an employer to set out clearly the purpose of deductions requires that workers get an intelligible statement with their wages and not a statement that contains so many abbreviations as to require a translator to explain it.

Having said that we should have passed this legislation many years ago, it is worth pointing out the oddity of the fact that we are now repealing the 1743 Truck Act. Other speakers have pointed out that it is one of the few remaining Acts enacted by the old Irish parliament pre-1800. It is a commentary on our ability to modernise the State when in 1991 we are finally repealing a piece of legislation of 1743— legislation 250 years old. It is also an interesting sign of the times. Whereas the legislation is very welcome the Truck Acts were originally designed to prevent employers requiring employees to accept payment by way of benefit in kind — one of the classical ways that the employer would do that would be to require the employee to be paid in the product that the employer produced, whether the employee wanted the quantity of the product he was given was neither here nor there so that they would have to go and sell it, or the employer could require the employee to accept goods from his shop at exorbitant prices. Nowadays, we have a different problem altogether. Due to the extraordinary high level of taxation and the fact that many people in employment feel there is no incentive to work hard or to do overtime, because if get a large financial reward for the work you do most of it will disappear to the taxman, there is a great deal of enthusiasm for payment in kind on top of the official wage. It is not unknown, so as to reduce the tax impact on workers, for major as well as minor companies to pay them currently in kind to a certain degree. Of course those payments in kind under the Truck Acts are not regarded as payments at all and they are illegal. What is interesting, and the Minister might comment on this, is that it seems to me that strictly speaking they are still illegal and cannot be taken into account after this legislation is passed. I will give one or two examples, a computer manufacturing company employ somebody at a wage and, though this may not be in the contract of employment, it may be well known within the company that part of the payment is that each year the employee will get free of charge one of the company's latest computers. The company can explain that to the taxman on the basis that you are being given a product so that you keep up to date in your job, that you need to retain the computer for job purposes. Everyone knows that a free computer which is being provided every year can be sold on the black market if one so wishes. The taxman will never discover it. Another way of getting around this problem is by having a business conference for 100 employees in a five-star hotel in Majorca. There is the more simple expedient of incurring travelling expenses. Fifty employees may have to travel every year for company reasons. Where they go is not generally examined in detail. It could be London, Tenerife or the United States. In reality it is payment in kind, a way of giving additional rewards to employees for work done which can legitimately be explained as a company expense without incurring PAYE or PRSI costings.

In 250 years we have come full circle. Even 100 years ago workers had to be protected from being forced by their employers to accept benefits in kind instead of cash. Nowadays workers are delighted to get benefits in kind in addition to cash. If such benefits in kind were described in an employment contract as being part of payment for the job, they would be illegal, even under this Bill. Provided it is done under the counter on a nod and wink basis, it is an Irish solution to an Irish problem, designed to diminish the impact of our excessive income tax imposition. The Minister cannot solve that problem overnight, but I was interested in the comments by Peter Cassells of the ICTU after a meeting with the Government yesterday when, despite the PR exercise on the jobs issue, he made the point that we will not resolve the jobs problem until we diminish the taxation impact on the wages we earn. That is not a matter for this legislation but the Minister might indicate the position in relation to an employer who employs a person on £10,000 a year plus the promise of a holiday every two years in the United States, or the promise of some other benefit in kind. Strictly speaking, I think it is not lawful under this legislation.

I welcome this Bill and the Minister will have the full co-operation of Fine Gael in having it enacted before the summer recess. The only technical difficulty is in relation to ensuring that statements of earnings and of deductions are very clear. Another matter which arises relates to employees currently in receipt of cash payment where the employer wishes to transfer to a non-cash method of payment. I have always held the view that industrial relations issues of this type should be dealt with by agreement and discussion between the workers or their unions and the employers. I would be anxious to ensure that those companies who, under existing legislation, have been prevented from transferring to a non-cash basis of wage payment will not find themselves totally blocked by their workforce from shifting to a cheque or bank transfer basis of payment. In the case of employers who want to make such changes fairly rapidly, there is within the ambit of this legislation the possibility for a group of employees or a union who want to make difficulties to do so and to seek various payments which, in the current economic climate, a company may not be able to meet in return for what would be seen by the workers as a concession.

If a company want to make the switch to a system of non-cash payment and agreement cannot be reached with trade union representatives of the workforce or with the workers themselves, what is the exact role of the Rights Commissioner? Is his role confined to the resolving of disputes which arise under the legislation? If the company wishing to make the change are subject to demands from the workforce which they cannot meet, can the Rights Commissioner play a role in reaching an accommodation which would allow the company to make payments on a non-cash basis? That may prove possible, but I am not certain. The provisions in relation to the Rights Commissioner seem to relate more to resolving disputes in relation to wages and deductions rather than resolving disputes between an employer and a trade union as to some from of compensation or once-off payment to a workforce in return for switching to a non-cash basis of paying wages.

We welcome this Bill and I hope we may be able to take Committee and Report Stages next week, if the other parties are agreeable.

I broadly welcome the Bill and I recognise that the Truck Acts need to be upgraded. The real reason for these changes is not just the antiquity of existing legislation but the determination of the Government to limit the transfer of huge amounts of cash from one location to another because of the danger of robbery. In order to overcome this problem we are to find ways of paying workers other than by a cash transfer system. If that is the intention, as Deputy Shatter believes, we should consider why cash payments are so attractive to workers in Ireland. In Denmark 90 per cent of wages are paid in some form other than cash, but here a minimum of 50 per cent of workers receive wages in cash. Clearly this is proving costly to the State and to banking institutions because of the security costs involved in transferring huge sums of money from one place to another. Often a military escort is required.

Debate adjourned.
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