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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 25 Feb 1992

Vol. 416 No. 2

Adjournment Debate. - Deportation of Iraqi Sisters.

First, I want to congratulate the Minister for Justice on his appointment. Without prejudice to our right to carry out faction fights in Mayo we are sincerely delighted that a very prestigious Cabinet post has been restored to the county and we wish him well in his very onerous portfolio.

Tara Jawad and her sister, Evian, were both born in Baghdad. Their father is a former lawyer, now working for the United Arab Emirates. Their mother is a Turkish born doctor working in Iraq. The two girls came to Ireland on 23 May 1991 on foot of visitors' visas. On 12 July 1991 the girls went to the Aliens Registration Office of the Department of Justice to renew their visas. Their passports and documentation were taken from them and not returned. Tara commenced studying for her leaving certificate examination at the Institute of Education, Leeson Street, Dublin. Evian is a qualified doctor and was accepted by the Medical Council for post-graduate study and by Beaumont Hospital.

In October 1991 both girls applied for student visas. They were not given any definite indication as to the likely verdict on this application. They heard nothing about their applications until, approximately, 8 p.m. on Thursday last, 20 February, when a gentleman from the Department of Justice knocked on the girls' door, handed them back their passports and gave them one week to leave the country.

I accept that there have to be rules, regulations and guidelines for the right of entry to and residence in this country, but I must also beg to make the point that there have to be occasions when a little tolerance, understanding and common sense are called for. Both girls are studying here. Neither is a burden on the State. Tara pays her full fees for the leaving certificate course she is undertaking. Evian is looking for unpaid post-graduate work and is maintained, again, by her parents.

For a country whose citizens are scattered to the four corners of the world, often dependent on the goodwill of other nationalities, we sometimes have an extremely intolerant approach to accommodating aliens here. Indeed, when one considers the fact that we have an unquantified but nevertheless estimated figure of between 50,000 and 100,000 young Irish people who are illegal aliens in the United States alone, living in fear of detection and deportation, we can indulge in a fair amount of halo adjusting when it comes to any kind of flexibility towards those seeking even temporary, non-burdensome residence here. For a Government which lobbies, using high powered official delegations, for new visa rounds and green cards for our own young people abroad, with the expectation that we are entitled to special and exceptional treatment, we can be remarkably cold, arid and bureaucratic when it comes to using a little common sense and give and take when dealing with others. We expect total appreciation of the plight of our emigrants who find themselves in various difficulties, yet we sometimes refuse to relent one inch when it comes to displaying a like courtesy, let alone a whit of diplomatic nicety, not to mention compassion.

There is no need for me to spell out to the Minister the difficulties being experienced in the two girls' home country.

In brief, the girls are students. They are not a burden on the State. They are extremely law abiding. They are both studying here, one for the leaving certificate examination and the other is doing post-graduate work. Another sister, Tanya, has a student visa and is a third year medical student. I ask the Minister to give student visas to the other two sisters to enable them to continue their studies and to live together.

The family awaits the Minister's reply.

First, I should like to express my thanks to Deputy Higgins, my colleague from Mayo, for his kind words of congratulation on my recent appointment. I know he makes them in a genuine spirit of support, and I accept them as such. I thank him very much.

I am glad to take this opportunity of outlining to the House how the cases raised by Deputy Higgins are known to the Aliens Registration Office. The full circumstances surrounding the case of these two Iraqi persons will show the way they disregarded the aliens laws. I have before me their original applications for visas to enter the State. In their applications they each clearly stated that they were coming to visit their sister who is studying in Dublin. The proposed visit was to be for a short duration of three weeks. It was on this basis, and on this basis only, that their application was considered and the decision taken to grant them permission for a short visit here.

The two persons concerned arrived in the State on 23 May last and the immigration officer in Dublin Airport granted them permission to stay in the State for one month. They subsequently applied for an extension to remain in the State for a further period. This was considered and refused in the normal way.

At this stage I would like to inform the House that it is common practice the world over not to permit persons who arrive in a country for a short stay — that is, for touristic reasons or to visit a family friend — to overstay beyond the period for which permission is initially granted. This is one of the basic rules of immigration control. You have to treat every application for a tourist visa as a genuine bona fide application. Otherwise you would have to engage in long and costly bureaucratic controls to ensure, in effect, that each tourist coming here from a country in respect of which a visa is required was a genuine tourist and not somebody using the pretext of a holiday to come here and remain here illegally.

The other side of that coin, the obverse of the somewhat relaxed approach to considering visa applications for holiday purposes, is the absolute insistence that people who come here on short-stay visas must leave after the term for which permission was granted has expired. As I said, this is a rule which has almost unanimous international acceptance and it is one which we rigorously enforce. There can be no departure from it except in emergency cases such as illness.

If people who come to visit here decide that they would like to live here for a while, for study or for some other acceptable purpose, they must return to their country of origin and apply for an entry visa, saying why they want to come here. This has always been the case and, again, this practice is on a par with the attitudes adopted in other European countries. This aspect of our aliens controls has been explained to the two persons whose case was raised by Deputy Higgins.

I understand that one of the persons in question has been studying while here, and the other person has been in unpaid employment. Their actions in so doing are in breach of the aliens laws and regulations. The persons concerned have been well aware of the conditions under which they were allowed enter the State as these are clearly stamped on their passports. They made no attempt to leave the State and have now been here illegally for over eight months. Evidently, they were not contemplating leaving the State as they had taken up a course of studies and unpaid employment.

They were advised by the Aliens Regulations Office on Thursday last, 20 February 1992, that they had seven days to leave the State and to make arrangements accordingly. I understand that they are currently making such arrangements and have accepted the decision conveyed to them. I regret that I cannot be of further assistance in this matter.

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