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Wednesday, 12 May 1993

Vol. 430 No. 6

Finance Bill, 1993: Second Stage (Resumed).

Question again proposed: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time".

Before the debate was adjourned I was referring to the adverse effect the increase in VAT on clothing and footwear has had on employment. I am sure that prior to the devaluation of our currency the Minister was aware that many jobs had been lost in this sector. These jobs were lost mainly because the Minister for Finance and the Taoiseach failed to realise the full impact of the currency crisis on Irish business at that time. It took Deputy John Bruton to remind the Government of the terrible consequences for us of not devaluing our currency. Eventually, the Government came to its senses. I was very surprised to hear the Taoiseach say on television last Sunday evening that interest rates had tumbled down as a result of the budget. All independent economists have said that the reduction in interest rates has been due mainly to the devaluation of our currency, which had been overvalued. It is important to put the record straight in this respect. The Taoiseach should have been magnanimous enough to say that devaluation had contributed to the reduction in interest rates.

As I said, this is an anti-jobs budget; the VAT increases prove this. We all know that the building industry has been in the doldrums for a considerable period of time. This has been mainly due to a lack of new house starts, which was brought about by a stagnant economy and the cutbacks by local authorities. There has been some improvement in this area in recent times with a small increase in the number of local authority houses being built. The difficulties in the building industry have had a knock-on effect on the other sectors in the construction industry. It has been pointed out that the increase in the VAT rate on cement from 10 per cent to 21 per cent could have a knock-on effect on the industry as a whole and lead to further job losses.

The increase in the rate of VAT on newspapers from 10 per cent to 12.5 per cent seems to indicate a lack of recognition among the Government of the actual cost of newspapers and the number of English tabloids imported into this country every day. The increase in the number of English tabloids being bought here has been mainly due to the price differential between English and Irish newspapers. The increase in the price of newspapers has meant that many people do not buy a newspaper every day. The increase in VAT on newspapers is a retrograde and foolish step.

The most punitive provision in the recent budget was the reintroduction of estate duty, now known as probate tax. In 1974 estate duty was abolished. In effect this is a reintroduction of death duties. It demonstrates a huge lack of sensitivity on the part of the Government because this probate tax will affect not only farming families but small businesses also. We are all aware that there is sufficient emotional strain on the death of a family member without adding this additional burden. For the sake of a revenue yield of £4 million it demonstrates a remarkable lack of imagination on the part of the Government. Since there has been evidence of economic buoyancy recently, even since the introduction of the budget, generating much more revenue for the State coffers, it behoves the Government to reconsider their position on the imposition of this tax. We shall be tabling an amendment on Committee Stage for the withdrawal of this probate tax, which has led to an understandable hostile reaction from the farming community. Its re-introduction was a retrograde step.

Another provision of this Finance Bill which will affect many businesses, especially those with VAT payments in excess of £120,000 annually, is the advance payment of one-twelfth to take place on 1 December each year. Occurring just before Christmas, this will not be regarded as acceptable by many such business people. In recent days we have heard of increased telephone charges which will affect the 700,000 domestic telephone users. By the time all these increases are implemented they will be the subject of a very hostile reaction. I believe that all of these impositions combined will erode most families' income, dragging more and more people into the poverty trap.

In what I have said I have endeavoured to demonstrate that this latest budget is an anti-jobs one and should not be portrayed as a barometer of increasing job numbers nationwide. The provisions of this Finance Bill will have a disastrous effect on employment. The Minister should realise that many of its provisions will not lead to the positive contribution he anticipated. In relation to the revenue generated, there could be spin-off losses for our economy through greater numbers of people losing their jobs, which of course will also have an adverse effect on the revenue going into the State coffers.

I am particularly disappointed because this Government has the largest majority in the history of the State. I often wonder whether that is an advantage or disadvantage. It may be an advantage in that the Government appears to endeavour to accommodate a greater diversity of thinking, allowing for people with varying opinions on many matters. We had a classic example today in the variation in thinking on the Refugee Bill, 1993, on the part of Deputy Kemmy and the Minister for Enterprise and Employment, Deputy Ruairí Quinn. Deputy Kemmy told the Government to cop on to themselves and accept that Bill, but the Minister pointed in the other direction, demonstrating that it is a kind of tweedledum, tweedledee arrangement. It was manifest also in relation to Deputy Bree's contribution on the North of Ireland, while the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs is going around trying to portray a positive image for this country and getting contradictory vibes. At a time when the Government has such a majority in this House, when it appears we are entering a period of stability, it is indeed regrettable and unfortunate that it did not allow for such circumstances within the provisions of the Finance Bill. The Government could have been considerably more innovative in its thinking.

Deputy Higgins has some six minutes.

I thank Deputy Finucane for agreeing to share his time with me.

The Finance Bill is supposed to be the engine that drives our economy for the coming year. If this is supposed to be the driving force to meet the massive and dangerous challenges facing our society, then I predict it will prove to be a dismal failure. Such challenges cannot be responded to by a Finance Bill which is like a remodelled, reconditioned engine: the core is basically the same, with the addition of a few spare parts, in many cases second-hand. At the end of the day this Finance Bill will take almost £500 million more in additional taxation from this economy than it contributes.

The frightening aspect of our current situation is that we are sitting on a powder keg. Our society is breaking down around us. I hope I am wrong, but I am of the strong opinion there could be a massive backlash or upheaval here. There is a frightening aspect of all this. Apart from repeated statements of concern, this Government appears to be — and this goes for the Labour Party in particular — settling snuggly into their ministerial portfolios, all set for four complacent years of power and enjoyment. Yet the ground has never been more fertile for a social upheaval here. With unemployment at 300,000, we have a Frankenstein which will wreak terrible havoc unless it is tackled purposefully. I predict some day, probably sooner rather than later, the unemployed will take to the streets. And who could blame them? The day that takes place this Government and this country will be in trouble.

The Programme for Economic and Social Progress and the Programme for National Recovery both promised multi-faceted, all embracing breakthroughs on the unemployment problem. Yet during the term of the Programme for National Recovery 40,000 additional people were added to the live register. The Programme for Economic and Social Progress was launched with a similar fanfare, but unemployment continued to grow month by month until finally it reached the all time record of 300,000. The Programme for a Partnership Government was to signal a new dawn based on what the Labour Party touted as putting trust back into Irish politics. As we have observed over the past 100-plus days, all has changed, but nothing has changed.

Following two slight reductions in the unemployment figures over the previous two months, last Friday's live register figures showed that unemployment is almost back up at the 300,000 mark. The official figures from the Departments of Finance and Labour for 1993 forecast an increase of something in the region of 10,000 to 25,000 and the estimate for 1996 is of an additional 46,000 people unemployed. In some cases whole families — mothers and fathers, sons and daughters — are queuing at unemployment exchanges and Garda barracks in every village, town and city nationwide for the £55 per week subsistence allowance. Yet the banner headlines in all the newspapers are heralding yet another scandal, this time involving what was supposed to be the jewel in the crown of the Irish semi-State sector, Irish Life. Imagine the impact of that on somebody queuing at the end of an 80 yard dole queue for £55 subsistence? Certainly, as in so many other cases, no law was broken.

One can go back over the past two years and look at the Carysfort affair — the £9.7 million voted by the Minister for Finance to the Minister for Education to bail out a friend in need, stuck, with a property he could not dispose of. Look at the Ballsbridge Telecome Éireann affair, when high profile directors had to resign in a welter of controversy. Look at the Greencore affairs, Mark I, the high profile resignations from that company and the £1.5 million individual payments to people who had to resign. Look at the sacking of the former chairman of the Irish Permanent Building Society, the so-called financial creativity involved in the lead up to his departure from that society. Look at the resignation and circumstances surrounding the leader of another building society. Look at the Greencore, Mark II, the Davy Stockbrokers saga of last week, the débácle and damage that ensued. Again, look at the Irish Life affair this very week, not to mention the happenings in Dublin Castle.

In the majority of these cases no law was broken. In this country we have devised a new dictionary of terminology for white collar financial manipulation called "working the system". One hires accountants, experts, lawyers — dare I say, advisers? — to find loopholes and then one goes for them. These are the people supposed to be leaders of society. These are the people who are held up as the examples, the merchant princes, whom people are told to emulate. These are the very people who in the Green Paper on Education are held up as the representatives of a new philosophy in education, the models of an enterprise culture we are supposed to emulate in order to create a new economic boom. One may well pose the question: will heads roll for what in many cases is blatant white collar crime? They will not and do not in such cases because, unfortunately, the law does not deal with reality. As I said, this is the reason the Government is like someone staring down the barrel of a gun. The man at the tailend of the dole queue is bitter and angry at the Finance Bill. He is bitter and angry because when he turns to the inside pages of the same newspaper he finds that people are hauled before the courts for what in many cases are mere trivia.

This Finance Bill has failed miserably. An opportunity has been lost, given that people are receptive to new dynamism, tough and harsh economic measures. There is a new thrust and a new beginning, something much sought after, but in this regard, unfortunately, this Finance Bill has failed miserably.

The Deputy has a good script writer.

It is all my own and there was more.

Last week when this Bill was presented to the House it was some what marginalised by the rather hysterical and opportunistic behaviour of certain Opposition politicians regarding the Greencore affair. There was what one can only describe as a blatant attempt to lay the blame on the Minister for Finance when it was abundantly clear to all and sundry that the Government stockbrokers were at fault. I hope I will be in a position in my contribution to the House today to redress in a small way this imbalance. This is imaginative and creative legislation which has much to contribute to the commercial wellbeing of this country. It is not without fault, what is? Overall, however, it is most welcome legislation. It contains many imaginative and commendable measures designed to stimulate investment and employment growth.

Generating employment must be the bottom line for this and any future Government. The engine by which we create these jobs is through the development of our own indigenous enterprise. However it has to be said that in recent years Irish entrepreneurs and would be entrepreneurs have been faced with an unnecessary number of disincentives when it came to making that crucial move to start a new business in an uncertain commercial climate. Lack of start up capital has been of increasing concern in recent years. There is a strong need to introduce specific incentives to enhance the availability of this funding and the Bill goes a long way towards addressing this need.

The Bill extends the business expansion scheme for a further three years, with the removal of the previous lifetime cap for investors. Most importantly, it introduces special investment accounts on which the returns are liable to tax at 10 per cent. These accounts can be offered by life assurance companies, unit trusts and stockbrokers. There is a requirement that a minimum percentage of the funds in these accounts should be invested in Irish equities, 40 per cent in 1993 rising to 55 per cent in 1996. This scheme genuinely has the potential to improve the availability of equity funds to business during the next few years.

Securing seed capital has been a considerable barrier to many businesses in the past. I am delighted to see that this Bill introduces a new scheme which is designed to encourage employees to move from safe employment to start their own business. This scheme will allow the entrepreneur to claim a refund of tax paid on previous income in respect of his or her investment in a new company. Relief on investments will be allowed on a retrospective basis against the income of the preceding three years up to a maximum of £25,000 income relief per year. This will in practice allow immediate relief on investments of up to £75,000. This scheme will be of advantage not only to those in employment but also to the unemployed, including persons made redundant. To my mind it allows greater opportunities for those in the PAYE sector to break into business. This is crucial. This is a positive and far reaching measure and deserves the support of every party in this House.

To provide a further boost to investment and employment the Bill provides for an increase in the BES company limit from £500,000 to £1 million in respect of shares issued on or after 6 May 1993. This is another welcome move.

It has been shown that research and development is the lifeblood of forward thinking progressive business. It is an area in which we have been deficient in the past. For this reason I welcome the provision in the Bill under which expenditure on research and development related to certain BES activities will qualify for BES relief in its own right. I hope that this is but the first step in establishing a proper research and development infrastructure for industry because this is something that has been lacking since the foundation of the State and not properly addressed at any stage.

The Bill also introduces a new scheme to allow individuals to dispose of a business and re-invest the proceedings in a manufacturing or other qualifying company without being held to capital gains tax on the amount raised from the sale of the business. For example, a publican might sell his business and invest the entire sum in the qualifying company. He would not be liable to capital gains tax until such time as the investment in the second company is disposed of. The purpose of this provision is to facilitate entrepreneurs who might wish to reinvest the proceeds from the sale of their stake in an existing company in starting up a new company in these sectors. I welcome this concept of roll over relief. However I have some reservations that the criteria might be too restrictive in that they might prohibit good job creating companies which are equally starved of cash and entrpreneurial skills but which do not qualify within the BES rules. I urge the Minister to review the situation as the scheme progresses with a view to widening the criteria for participation.

Pension funds through their investment activities can make a great contribution to the development of the economy and job creation. There is much untapped potential in this area and I welcome the Minister's initiative in discussing these matters with the pension fund people themselves. I wish him all the best in these endeavours and I hope he can bring them to a fruitful and positive conclusion.

Last week, while discussing the new Broadcasting Bill, I made reference to the growth potential of the independent broadcasting sector. Therefore I welcome the new measures contained in the Bill which will be of direct benefit to those Irish companies engaged in co-productions. Up to this these companies, in order to qualify for section 35 funding, had to guarantee that 75 per cent of the production work was done in Ireland. This Bill allows for the 75 per cent rule to be waived under certain conditions. The Bill also increases the ceiling for investment under section 35 for corporate investors from £600,000 to £1.05 million. This package will provide a much needed impetus for this sector.

There are in the Bill other incentives designed to promote enterprise and employment generation. I will not go into them in detail; suffice it to say that, taken as a whole, they represent a significant shot in the arm for business. This is reflected in the positive response the proposals have received from financial commentators and representatives of the business community. I find it disappointing to note some of the Opposition's comments on the Bill, given that it allows for the introduction of measures for which they themselves have called. Do they not support the development of a vigorous enterprise culture in this country? I regret to say that yet again they have fallen into the trap of political opportunism and opposition for the sake of opposition. This House deserves better.

The Bill represents a major step forward but, as I have said, it is not without its flaws and gaps. I welcome the enterprise incentive proposals, but if they are to work effectively they must operate in a streamlined, non-bureaucratic context. I am concerned that this is not the case. I fear that, with the best of intentions. we may have created a bureaucratic structure which may mitigate against enterprise and employment growth. Let me explain what I mean by this. There is considerable scope for confusion between the county enterprise boards, the more locally based area partnership companies, the Enterprise Trust and the sub-regional review committees. It is all very well introducing new incentives, which are always welcome, but not if they are subsequently enmeshed in a bureaucratic quagmire. Unfortunately, that is a possibility. Therefore I urge the Minister concerned to keep these structures under review with a view to making them as user friendly as possible. As it stands most business people operating in the real economy would tell us that there are too many bureaucratic barriers in existence and some people give up in despair.

I have always supported the concept that growth comes from the bottom up. It starts in the regions and in the localities and filters upwards to the broader national economy. It is vital that this growth be nurtured at all times. I urge the Minister strongly to ensure that we have a second Leader Programme. Phase 1 of the first programme has just commenced. The forthcoming national development plan will have a vital role to play in supporting and developing much needed enterprise and employment. I urge the Minister to ensure that enterprise development is an integral part of the plan. We may never receive an allocation of Structural Funds of this magnitude again — it may be our last chance in that sense — and, therefore, it is vital that we receive the maximum amount possible. If these funds are to be used in the most effective way we must ensure they are not wasted on unnecessary bureaucratic procedures or on non-productive schemes.

My main reservation about the proposed probate tax is that the Bill does not take into account the ability of the property owner to pay this tax. Ability to pay is an essential part of an equitable and fair tax. In order to soften the blow, so to speak, the Minister should consider allowing for the payment of this probate tax by instalments. The Department should carry out a review of the tax after a period to ascertain how equitable it is. There is considerable disquiet among the farming community on the equity or otherwise of this tax.

I am keenly aware of the importance of tourism to our economy. Tourism is extremely important in my constituency. It is our second biggest industry and, indeed, in my county it may well be the biggest. It offers the most potential for growth and development. I am disappointed, therefore, at the response in the Bill to the tourism sector. The initiative to increase the availability of cars for short term hire through improving the fiscal environment for such cars is welcome. We need more initiatives not in an ad hoc but in a co-ordinated way as part of an overall strategy that befits the importance and potential of this industry.

Will the Minister examine the VAT rate increase on clothing and footwear? There is a genuine fear that this may result in job losses in these sectors. I welcome the Minister's offer of assistance to firms in the sector threatened by the application of VAT at standard rate on their domestic sales.

This Bill represents a major step forward. It underlines the Government's commitment to generating employment through enterprise. I look forward to more initiatives to tap into the underlying talent and entrepreneurship that exists, but which has remained untapped for so long. The Bill should be welcomed by the business community, the trade unions and the unemployed for its series of positive measures. I am happy to lend it my support. I wish to share my time with Deputy O'Hanlon.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

I wish to thank my colleague, Deputy O'Donoghue, for sharing his time with me. I welcome this Bill and, in particular, the initiatives for job creation such as the extention of the business expansion scheme which has been advantageous to business, particularly tourism. Tourism is a major growth area. The special savings account will be of benefit in encouraging further investment which will become available for job creation. I welcome also the seed capital scheme. We are all aware of people in our constituencies with entrepreneurial flair who would like to start a business but do not have sufficient capital. That has always been the stumbling block. This change will be very popular and, in conjunction with other State supports will help people who want to start their own business and so create jobs.

I welcome the stock relief provision for farmers. I welcome also the extension of the urban renewal scheme. That scheme should be extended to other towns such as Monaghan. The Monaghan town centre could be refurbished under that scheme and people are prepared to undertake the work. Will the Minister consider this request? The Minister announced that he will monitor the impact on the clothing and footwear industries through IBEC. Relief will come in the future, if it is necessary.

I will now deal with job creation and maintaining of jobs. We are burdened with the preparation of legislation, which I accept is necessary and that creates a gap between job creation and the implementation of policies to provide employment. While I commend those working in the public service I must ask whether rigid interpretation of the law hinders job creation or the maintaining of employment. I shall cite a number of examples. I am aware that a meat factory which exports directly to a Third World country lost a contract because it was not decided whether the Revenue Commissioners or the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry should implement an EC directive. That should not be the case. I am also aware of similar cases in regard to fisheries. I am as antipollution as any Member but we should adopt a pragmatic approach when people are spending a great deal of money installing effluent plants without infringing the law. The fishery local authorities should take a practical view if there is no danger of a fish kill. The same applies to environmental health legislation.

We should speed up the planning process. The rigid interpretation of legislation delays planning applications and results in job losses and lost opportunities for creating jobs. Every person who applies to the planning authority is creating a job, no matter how small or how big it is. There should be a mechanism to ensure that the planning authorities focus on job creation as part of their brief.

Third level education is a major growth area, particularly with students from the Far East. We have a problem with the allocation of visas and this needs to be looked at in the context of developing opportunities in third level education.

We are all aware of disputes involving State agencies, Government Departments and local authorities. There should be a mechanism to settle disputes so that we can ensure the creation of the maximum number of jobs. Will the Minister ensure that when implementing Government policy or the law all State agencies and Government Departments will focus on job creation? As a representative of a Border constituency I compliment the Minister on his sensitivity to the needs of the Border counties. We are all aware that the economy in the Border areas was practically wrecked by Government policies in the period from 1982-87. I compliment the Minister on ensuring that there will be no damage to the Border economy, and especially for not increasing the price of petrol.

The Single Market needs to be monitored, although I do not see it as a threat to business in Border areas. We will have to look at how it impacts on jobs in our areas. The fact that cheaper goods can be brought across the Border will cost us jobs in certain areas. We will need to monitor the situation to ensure we are competitive at all times.

The Bill is positive in that it creates new initiatives for the provision of jobs and this is to be welcomed. It is important in this regard that we improve our infra structure and that our roads are in good condition. The Minister should ensure that the Commission permits the spending of Structural Funds on county as well as primary roads. I wish to refer to a pilot scheme I introduced when Minister for the Environment under which the local communities worked with the local authority in the repair and refurbishment of roads. The local county engineer told me recently that the value of the work done by the local community was 12.5 per cent of the total cost of £350,000 which I allocated for that pilot project.

I welcome this Bill and compliment the Minister on it. It will achieve what is desired by everybody, it will lead to the creation of more jobs and a sounder economy.

It appears that the Labour Party has accepted the economic philosophy of the Fianna Fáil Party in the presentation of the Finance Bill. The Bill gives legal effect to the budget and allows the Minister for Finance to make changes arising out of provisions in the budget. This Bill warranted serious thought to create incentives and opportunities for people to use their initiative, avail of investment opportunities and create a climate for job creation. That was necessary because the 1993 budget was a disaster in terms of job creation and creating a climate in which those with initiative, ability and opportunities could use their expertise. It is fair to say that the Bill contains a number of welcome measures. I hope the gurus in the Department of Finance have not strangled these initiatives by introducing too much red tape and bureaucracy.

For instance, during the recent crisis the Department of Enterprise and Employment announced a scheme to assist firms involved in manufacturing and exports. A great number of Irish manufacturers who were in serious difficulties at that time appreciated the measure introduced and looked forward to receiving assistance. However, even though the measure was a good one red tape prevented a great number of manufacturers from availing of assistance. As a result many of them cut back on employment, lost export and manufacturing opportunities and, indeed, some went out of business. I hope the seed capital measures in section 18 will not be tied up in too much red tape and strangled by bureaucracy. It appears that there is quite an amount of money in some quarters, but the haves have no concern for the have nots except when they are being squeezed. I hope this scheme does not become lost in the files of the Department. The IDA should ensure that ideas put forward by manufacturers are given clearance as soon as possible.

The Leader programme has operated from the ground up and allows for real discussion between those with ideas and the Leader boards based around the country. These boards sanction projects in a very short time. Many of the ideas put forward are worthless — three out of four may be non-runners. The Leader programme boards who vet the applications sanction many projects and provide money for them. I hope this programme is a success and continues to create employment, particularly in rural Ireland.

The Minister's imposition in the budget of a 1 per cent levy on employment was nothing short of disgraceful. It is similar to measures introduced between 1973 and 1977 and between 1982 and 1987 and results from the Labour Party influence in Cabinet. It is used as a quick method of getting money from those who are already hard pressed under the PAYE system. When replying to this debate or when the Bill goes to special committee — I wish that committee every success in its work — I hope the Minister will explain how temporary the 1 per cent levy will be. Levies were introduced years ago on a temporary basis but they lasted up to ten years.

The 2 per cent probate tax is a kick in the teeth to everybody and will be resisted very strongly. One notices when travelling to and from the Dáil signs in various counties as protesting against this tax which is a tax on death, property and even on existence. It is a retrograde step and smacks of desperation in the Department of Finance and at Cabinet. I am very much opposed to this tax.

I hope the new seed capital programme will not become strangled in red tape and bureaucracy and that it will allow those with initiative to implement their ideas and provide employment.

The changes in the urban renewal scheme are welcome. This scheme was introduced by former Minister, John Boland, and was a thriving success in a number of towns. It was subsequently expanded by various Ministers for the Environment. The reduction of the occupancy period to 13 years and the closing off of the existing loopholes are welcome. I concur with the sentiments expressed by Deputies that the scheme should be extended to other towns — for example, Westport and Ballinrobe in County Mayo, two small rural towns that would be eminently suitable as designated areas under the urban renewal scheme.

What about Castlebar?

Small shopkeepers and general proprietors would be only too willing to refurbish their premises and improve their lot. This would give an impression of economic activity and would be welcomed by everybody.

The county enterprise boards were welcomed by Fianna Fáil speakers but I am not sure that those Deputies would welcome the initiative in this Bill. The view of local authorities is that county enterprise boards will not work. The Minister of State present will obviously have different ideas, having set up the county enterprise board in Galway. The feeling is that any ideas put forward will be taken up by the business people on those boards. The initiative will not come as previously through the local authorities. County Councils over the years have always been willing to use their initiative. The Acts under which county councils and local authorities are set up are flexible enough to cater for our needs in the nineties. If revamped, county councils could cater for the role and responsibilities of the county enterprise boards. These will not be a success because they will only add another layer of administration to prevent those with initiative from using them.

I deplore the VAT increases on footwear and clothing. The policy in this Finance Bill could be compared with the policy adopted by Marie Antoinette, who when she was in trouble said of the people "Let them eat cake". VAT on confectionery and other such luxury items has been reduced, whereas it has been increased on essential items such as clothing and footwear. The only reason for this is that the Government are desperate for money. A decrease of VAT on confectionery and an increase of VAT on clothing and footwear is a retrograde step which will cause a great deal of hardship to the manufacturing end of the industry and to people in general. In a Private Members' motion on this issue it was pointed out that many manufacturing industries, from Donegal to west Kerry, have transport and economic problems and are hard pressed to maintain employment levels, their export markets and their sales. The imposition of this VAT increase will lead to the setting up of pseudo companies in Northern Ireland and increased imports. There will be a cashflow advantage for importers of clothing and footwear.

With regard to the Telecom charges, a constituent said to me "At least Dick Turpin wore a mask". Dick Turpin stole from the rich to help the poor, but these charges steal from the poor to help the rich. We have asked for a special debate in the Dáil on these charges and I hope the Government will concede that.

The people in my constituency have been disenfranchised to an extent by the departure of the former Deputy Flynn, who is now in Brussels as Commissioner for Social Affairs. All of the infrastructural activity one would normally expect is now held up pending the by-election. Three million pounds is being sought for a major sewerge scheme in Ballinrobe on the shores of Lough Mask which has a booming angling trade and an expanding tourist business. However, sanction is not forthcoming from the Department of the Environment, probably on account of the pending by-election. That is only one of a number of areas being economically deprived as well as being disenfranchised by the Government.

In terms of the open Government spoused by the Taoiseach, there is a serious need to discuss how Structural Funds are to be spent. It is arrogant of the Taoiseach to come in here at Question Time and say that the Government will decide on how £8 billion of Structural Funds will be allocated. In my county there is work for ten years for 1,000 men on coastal protection alone. The ravages of the Atlantic and the storms of the last few years have created havoc in terms of the loss of sea defences and so on. Neither county councils nor elected representatives have been given a facility to indicate the areas which they would consider priority areas for the spending of Structural Funds. Submissions could be made on the upgrading of railway lines, the improvement of roads, piers and so on.

I hope the Bill will be thoroughly examined on Committee Stage and that this second run of the special finance committee will be successful. I would like to share the last minutes of my time with Deputy Crawford.

I thank the Chair and also my colleague for sharing his time with me. We have a problem similar to coastal erosion, but it concerns our roads in Cavan-Monaghan. Huge extra employment could be given there if some of the EC Structural Funds was spent on it, as suggested by my colleague, Deputy O'Hanlon. I hope some of the £8 billion Structural Funds will be used to deal with the serious road problems in Cavan and Monaghan.

We have heard a lot about what the Finance Bill will do to improve employment. We must not forget the effect of the 1 per cent levy, which must be paid regardless of whether or not there is profit. It is an overall levy on the farming community, and for the PAYE worker it is an additional burden.

It was incredible that the Labour Party walked through the lobbies to support a 21 per cent rate of VAT on clothing and footwear when hundreds of jobs are continuing to be lost in that sector.

In County Monaghan we are noted for mushroom production, but what have really mushroomed north of the Border are readymix groups; and this was occurring even before the 21 per cent VAT imposition, due to anomalies in the tax system. At a time when we are talking about job creation it is incredible that the Minister has placed a further tax on the readymix sector. If a person buys £100,000 worth of readymix concrete in Monaghan he must immediately pay 21 per cent VAT on it. The same amount can be bought more cheaply, without the imposition of VAT, in Northern Ireland. In a difficult cashflow situation for builders this differential is causing great damage and a minimum of 100 jobs will be lost in County Monaghan alone.

I would ask the Minister to reconsider the whole issue of the imposition of the 21 per cent VAT rate before it is too late and perhaps he will also agree to reduce the PRSI rates. During the election discussions the Fine Gael Party was condemned for suggesting that PRSI be halved in some sectors. We had all hoped there would be an incentive for the transfer of land to young people. We had hoped for an exemption from Land Registry charges but instead the Minister has introduced a probate tax. If some young man or woman who owns property is unfortunate to be killed or to die of a serious illness, he or she would have had no opportunity to transfer land in the normal fashion.

I would be grateful if the Deputy would bring his speech to a close.

A death in a young family is a problem but the imposition of the probate tax will have serious implications.

In regard to devaluation, it is laughable to hear the Government claim that as a result of its actions interest rates have reduced. In the Border areas we all knew in October or November that we had to have devaluation, but they held out for months. The Minister for Finance almost cried on television and said he was forced to devalue. Now the Government is claiming that because of its activities the interest rates and the economy are progressing.

In response to the last point made by Deputy Crawford, I should say that when interest rates were high the Government was blamed and now that the interest rates are low it should also take the credit.

They should never have been high.

On behalf of the Labour Party I would like to address a number of key issues in the context of the Finance Bill, particularly unemployment and tax reform. I welcome the establishment of the various legislative committees which will examine not only this Finance Bill but also the Estimates from the various Government Departments. This new initiative, introduced by the Government, will go a long way towards allowing a careful teasing out of the various matters which make up the Finance Bill and the Estimates for the various Departments and will allow us to conduct business much more expeditiously than hitherto.

The Programme for a Partnership Government states:

We will seek to promote a high level of economic growth that is export-led, consistent with the maintenance of low single-figure inflation, so as to create the greatest possible employment demand.

We intend that the various strands of Government policy will become a coherent vehicle to secure that objective. In terms of employment creation it is important to understand that every sustainable 1 per cent reduction in real interest rates — interest rates adjusted by the consumer price index — leads to 15,000 additional jobs. That in itself is a major job creation facility.

Given the extraordinary currency market and the background against which last year's budget was formulated, the Minister for Finance had to be careful, and relatively conservative, in framing the Exchequer borrowing requirement. That would not have been my wish, and indeed was not the wish of the Labour Party in its manifesto before the formation of this Government. We had intended that there should have been greater Exchequer borrowing at the initial stage of Government formation so that there would be a once off impetus for job creation because of the huge numbers unemployed. Unfortunately, because of the high interest rates we had no alternative but to stabilise the markets. That in itself had the consequent momentum of reducing the interest rates. We will accept credit where credit is due in that matter.

The fact that the currency was devalued by the Government is not something that we in the Labour Party regard as a mistake or some regrettable departure from the policy which was pursued to keep the Punt at a fixed rate to the Deutsche Mark. When the crunch came we chose to protect jobs and business rather than stick with an overvalued currency. I would make the point that it reflects badly on the primary concerns and initiatives of the Maastricht Treaty — the EMS and monetary union — that when the crisis arose in relation to interest rates and speculation on individual members' currency, there was very little solidarity among member states. In future we will have to ensure an integrated approach to this as well as to other matters to ensure stabilisation and prevent fluctuations as a result of which certain members had to leave the EMS and other members, such as ourselves, had to devalue their currency.

Had the Bundesbank taken into account the critical European dimensions to its policy of high interest rates, it is possible that much of the pain we have to endure could have been avoided. However, interest rates are falling and the Bundesbank is now being criticised in exactly the same terms by German economists as it was by the governments of countries which took the brunt of the ERM crisis.

We can at last look forward to a period, some time next year, when the pattern of positive and high interest rates, which had a profoundly negative effect on employment throughout the eighties, will be reversed. For example, long term interest rates during the period 1980-89 averaged 5.5 per cent in the United States, 4.5 per cent in Germany, 4.7 per cent in France, and 3.4 per cent in the United Kingdom. This appeared good, but it contrasted poorly with the period 1970-79 when real interest rates were negative for a number of years or below 2 per cent. Despite zero interest rates in the United States for the past 18 months the United States alone cannot pull the world economy out of the recession. In the European Community we need zero interest rates and a major public and private investment boost to the whole of the European economy.

Last week I had the privilege of attending a meeting in Copenhagen organised by the Danish President in relation to the summit agenda for June. Denmark has determined that employment will be the one issue on the agenda. It is proposed that all member states focus on unemployment and launch an integrated policy at the same time. That is the co-ordinated approach we should bring to bear on the matter. I am confident that this time next year interest rates will be no more than 4 per cent or 5 per cent and that this will provide a basis for recovery, which, I am glad to say, the heads of Government of the seven main economies have indicated should be utilised to tackle unemployment as the major priority.

Is that a forecast? The Deputy is a great man.

That is my forecast. We will talk to the Deputy next year about it. Nobody would have forecast a few months ago that interest rates would be at their present level.

The Deputy is a great man.

It is a question of how the economy is progressing and of the stabilising influence this Government has had on it and on the currency markets. We intend to maintain it in that fashion.

There has been much criticism of the 1 per cent income levy, which was introduced solely to give a clear indication to financial markets that the Government finances would not be allowed to deteriorate or that the serious debt ratio would be allowed to escalate. Naturally, one would have wished that that levy had not been introduced and that it would not have been pitched at the low level of £9,000. However, that is the position.

I should like to bring to the attention of the public, and particularly to representatives of the media, that the accompanying memorandum to the Finance Bill states that the income levy is temporary. Section 7 provides for the imposition in respect of the tax year 1993-94 of the temporary 1 per cent levy, to be know as "the income levy", announced in the budget, according to the explanatory memorandum. Can the public trust the Labour Party and the Government in regard to that levy?

Absolutely not.

I am sure they can. The income levy introduced in the 1984 budget was retained for two financial years only and was removed again in 1986. That is the precedent we will be following. It is a temporary levy and it will not be continued. The Labour Party and the Taoiseach indicated that the levy is temporary. With the benefit of interest rates reductions fully secured by the end of this year, I will be looking to a budget in 1994 which will expand economic activity and, through the Structural Funds and other measures, give incentives to employers to take on the long term unemployed in particular.

The Programme for Government which gives employment the highest priority will require tough decisions and the development of a hard consensus if it is to have any serious impact on unemployment. Every interest group in society must be prepared to make adjustments so that the reduction in unemployment gets the priority it deserves. This will have implications for tax evasion, tax avoidance, the reinvestment of profits in productive employment and the level of pay increases which can be afforded in the public and private sectors. It is clear from the October report of the Comptroller and Auditor General that there is a vast amount of uncollected taxes out there — £2.6 billion. We have a duty to ensure that sufficient staff are appointed to the Revenue Commissioners to collect that money which would make an enormous contribution to the economic wealth of this nation and to reducing employment.

The proposals in the Programme for Government go a long way towards creating the climate that will lead to a reduction in unemployment. A £250 million jobs fund has been established in addition to the new forum which will give all interest groups, including the unemployed, trade unionists, the Government, farmers and the marginalised in society a voice on the issue of job creation. We will receive £8 billion in Structural Funds which we will have to match with £4 billion. That will mean that there will be £12 billion in Structural and Cohesion Funds which must be directed towards job creation. We have the proposals to restructure the county enterprise boards and their work will be directed towards providing community employment around the country. Those job creation measures are outside the framework of the budget. The budget is based on principles which will facilitate their implementation.

The removal of the income levy is a very small issue compared to that of unemployment. The Programme for Government is committed to tax reform, but not the kind of reform the Progressive Democrats have in mind. Their programme concentrated, like the Reagan reforms in the United States and the Thatcher reforms in the United Kingdom, on the reduction of marginal tax rates and on what is called the "trickled down" effect. Those reforms have been tested and did not lead to sustainable higher economic growth, or result in increased employment. They resulted in greater inequalities in income and wealth. There is no evidence to support the contention that lower tax rates increases value-added activities in any economy.

The Labour Party recognises that the burden of direct taxation on average incomes is too high but one does not need to reduce the top rate of tax to address this problem. A sustained widening of the standard rate tax band, combined with a restructuring of PRSI to reduce the burden on the lower paid, is the correct strategy. This also addresses the so-called "tax wedge" problem.

The advocates of reduced employer PRSI should provide the evidence that this would stimulate increased economic activity. I do not believe it would, unless it was incorporated in an explicit trade-off for additional recruitment of employees — and we know how hard it is to get that from the employers. We need to get our priorities right. We have to expand the traded goods sector of the economy and increase the retained value-added which this sector generates. This requires the development of indigenous exporting, manufacturing and servicing businesses. We have underlined that in the Programme for Government and we are introducing a new body, Forbairt, to emphasise the importance of indigenous business enterprises. Lower personal taxation, which is not at the expense of the low paid or the unemployed, is only sustainable through creating more wealth and economic activity in Ireland.

I hope the employers, trade unions and farming organisations will respond to the challenge which this country faces on unemployment. In 1987-88 the trade unions made a major contribution to restoring confidence to the battered economy and public finances. A devaluation in 1986, followed by reduced interest rates and wage restaint resulted in more than 40,000 jobs being created. We have a tremendous opportunity with similar economic conditions to reduce unemployment and reform the taxation system. It is a challenge I am happy to take on, and there will be ample opportunities for all parties to make their contribution through the National Economic and Social Forum and the employment and development committee of the Oireachtas. For the sake of the country and particularly for the sake of the unemployed it is a challenge we must not fail to meet.

I have to say, with some sadness, that we can now determine that socialism is dead. It has died here when we find a Deputy who used to be an active and very eloquent advocate of socialist principles, like Deputy Costello, come into this House and read out a script that came out of the Government script machine with the odd genuflection to Labour dogma here and there. When I hear Deputy Costello tamely read that out, I feel that socialism's soul has long departed.

On a point of information——

Points of information do not exist in the House. The Deputy missed his chance.

The Government certainly has never had anything to do with my scripts. My scripts are my own.

We have heard a tame apology for the most anti-employment budget we have seen for many years here. It really is sad to see it.

We have been treated to a dose of cloud cuckooland economics. I ask Deputy Costello to reflect a little. In what economy in recent years has he ever seen a zero real interest rate? Who would save money in a zero real interest rate economy? Who would make money available?

They have one in the United States.

The Deputy ought to know, and if he does not know he should consult the Labour Party's economic guru who will tell him that there never has been a growing economy where there was not a positive interest rate, and that where there are negative or zero real interest rates, it is only because the economy is contracting.

I was amused by Deputy Costello's statements on currency policy and on devaluation. I know he is bound to say, quite rightly as it happens, that the 1986 currency change here had a beneficial effect. He has to say that because his party was in Government then. However, his colleagues in the other Government party these days do not believe that that was a positive measure. They go to the most extraordinary lengths — and they did before the devaluation earlier this year — to say that the 1986 experience was a bad one when, in fact, we all know it was a good one. I happen to know, because I was in touch with it at the time, what the Labour Party's stance was on the issue of the exchange rate in the period between the election and the formation of the Government. I can tell the Deputy, because he obviously has not been told this by his mentors and gurus that they hoped, officially, at the top echelons of the Labour Party that the problem would be sorted out by Fianna Fáil before the Labour Party actually got into Government. They were not concerned about that. They had no position of principle or conviction about whether it was right to devalue the currency or whether they would wait until the crunch came and as Deputy Costello tried to pretend do the right thing for jobs. The crunch came in this economy last September and the Fianna Fáil Party in Government at that time missed the boat. It failed to recognise that an overall realignment within the EMS should have taken place at that stage.

I am glad Deputy Dukes realises I am talking about the present Government.

The Deputy should read the papers. Effectively, what we got was wide realignment within the EMS that took place in the most painful possible manner, piece by piece, between September of last year and February of this year. That is real economics and Deputy Costello is doing himself no favours by pretending that the world is other than it really is. That is a feature of the two parties of this Government. They are going back over the recent economic history of this country, from last September until now, and trying to present what happened as being in some way the result of a carefully planned series of events when in fact the Government was being thrown around from pillar to post and kicked around from Billy to Jack. The Government is now trying to pretend that that was a carefully planned policy.

I was delighted to hear Deputy Costello promising that interest rates will be reduced to 4 per cent or 5 per cent this year. If that is the case he should tell us how he will ensure that that is a real zero interest rate because inflation would need to be at 4 per cent or 5 per cent for that to happen. I have every confidence that, in spite of the mad economic policies of this Government, it will never be able to provide us with that kind of cloud cuckooland economics and economy.

Another aspect of the infernal script machine of this Government was Deputy Costello's reference to the difficulties that arose on the EMS and the fact that the Germans did not recognise the kind of solidarity that a poor alien little economy like Ireland on the periphery of Europe needs. That is nonsense. There is nothing wrong with the European Monetary Sytem and nothing went wrong with that system between September of last year and February of this year that could have have been fixed by Ministers for Finance who had their eye on the ball or by a Government who did not sit on its hands hoping the problem would go away and who refused to do the sensible thing and talk directly to the people in the Bundesbank. Deputy Costello is doing his reputation no good by trotting out such lame excuses for policy and history that we have heard from the rumour factory script to which he has treated us.

Deputy Dukes is misrepresenting what I said.

I will turn from the fanciful pseudo-socialist economic ideas of Deputy Costello to the reality of this year's Finance Bill. Those ideas were tried and failed. They drove half the world into recession for 45 years. We should forget about them.

This year's budget has introduced new measures and I suppose they have the approval of the Deputies in the Labour Party. A new probate tax was introduced in this year's budget. A tax of 2 per cent will be payable on all inherited estates valued at more than £10,000 with the sole exception of the family home where it passes between spouses on death. We are told that the yield from that will be £6 million this year and £12 million in a full year. That is a paltry sum and small justification for a very pernicious tax. The Minister for Finance tried to present this as part of a coherent policy on capital taxation, but it is obvious in examining the budget figures that it is no such thing. The 2 per cent probate tax, far from being a deliberate part of a coherent capital taxation policy, was what the Government needed in order to tie up the two ends when it found it could not agree on the expenditure measures required to resolve the budget position for this year. It is a measure of short term desperation introduced without any regard for the consequences simply to tie up £6 million in this year's budget because the Government did not want to be seen to fail.

This tax is as unacceptable as the 1 per cent levy which has been imposed on income. Of course, Deputy Costello is correct to point out that this is not the first 1 per cent levy to be introduced here. That was a bad tax. I had the misfortune of introducing it, but I got rid of it as fast as I could. I assure the House — I hope I am not giving away any great Cabinet secrets retrospectively — that I got rid of it much faster than the Labour Party would have wished at the time. Deputy Costello, who I do not believe was publicly active in the Labour Party at that time, was one of the critics of that tax and he is now apologising for that. We should tell Deputies in his position that income tax was introduced in the 1890s at six pence in the pound as a temporary measure.

The probate tax is a last minute emergency measure and goes totally against the trend of what successive Governments have been trying to do in relation to capital taxation in recent years. It is an excrescence in the system and should never have been put in place. It is a very blunt instrument and has been described fairly as a tax on misfortune and grief. It will constitute a major burden on families at a difficult time and nowhere will it be more intrusive than in cases where a family business is part of the assets which are passed on following a death. That applies in particular in the agricultural sector and to other areas of family business. As the Minister of State present is aware, in a typical family business, especially a farm that is not cash rich, in order to pay this tax on the death of the principal operator — perhaps the only operator — it will be necessary to realise part of the assets, because the business will not produce the type of cashflow that would be required to pay that tax. The Minister of State is well aware that computations show that on a 150 acre dairy farm the 2 per cent probate tax could amount to £10,000 or more. One will not find £10,000 hanging around in any farmer's bank account nowadays. In order to pay this tax people will be obliged to realise part of the productive assets of the business and this applies also to other family businesses. This probate tax will not only tax inheritance, but it will reduce the productive capacity of the business involved. It takes no account of the ability of the inheritors to pay; it is simply a short term expedient by the Government to get more money and will have no positive effects.

I am unhappy that this new probate tax is being introduced because it is not many years ago since I was in the position of completely relieving from any taxation the transfer of property on death from one spouse to another. A substantial part of the inspiration which led me to do that came from a member of the Labour Party who is a member of the present Government. In my usual generous fashion I went somewhat further than he suggested, but I was delighted to be able to say at last that the transfer of property between spouses on death would not be a taxable occasion. That is now gone because only the principal private residents will escape from the clutches of the Revenue Commissioners under the provisions of this new probate tax. That is regrettable and is a counterproductive move. It is a bad feature being re-introduced into our capital taxation system.

Of course, I have been reading about what has been taking place and various groups of people have been talking to the Minister for Finance since the budget was published. I have been given to understand he gave an undertaking to the Irish Farmers Association that he would provide in the Finance Bill that probate tax would be taken into account as an expense against liability to capital acquisitions tax on inheritance. But, search as I might, I cannot find any such provision in the Finance Bill. I invite the Minister to think again and to remember that people are under the impression that he has given them this undertaking, something which would be a good idea in itself. It would somewhat moderate the effect of this tax and I ask the Minister to tell us whether he intends to make such a provision on Committee Stage.

Remaining with the subject of capital taxation, I find that the changes made in capital acquisitions tax in relation to agricultural property are grudging and inadequate. Yes, some improvements have been made, but the thresholds are far from being indexed to the level in real terms they were at when the tax was first introduced in 1976. This capital acquisitions tax, even with the changes proposed in this Bill, is still the most serious obstacle to early farm transfer in this country. Minister of State Liam Hyland should particularly appreciate the irony of that, because he is defending a hopeless case these days by saying that the Government is bringing in an early retirement scheme in order to help speed up land transfers. The measure the Government has in mind will not make much difference unless it is very substantially changed. The Minister for Agriculture, Food and Forestry should be in here telling the Minister for Finance, who seems to be unaware that there is a whole world beyond the pale where a real economy is being oppressed by this Government, that capital acquisitions tax and the thresholds at their levels remain, even after the provisions of this Bill are taken into account, the most serious obstacle to early farm transfer.

A change has been made in relation to the exemption levels for gifts. It has not been made in relation to inheritance and I wonder if the Minister for Finance could give us any coherent reason why there is now a differential in our capital acquisitions tax code between the treatment of gifts and the treatment of inheritance. I cannot see any logic in this. No logic was given in the budget for this. It seems to have been a top of the head decision and I suspect that the difference has more to do with the Government's concerns to obtain revenue rather than any planning of our capital tax system.

Changes are proposed in relation to stock relief on farms. It is like the curate's egg, there is good and bad in it. The new provision being proposed would allow a deduction of 25 per cent from trading profits of the increase in the value of trading stock in an accounting period. That is accompanied by the abolition of the clawback we had under the previous stock relief provision. I would have to say — and I know the inside and outside of this question — that, all other things being equal, the abolition of the clawback is a very advantageous step; but of course in this case all other things are not equal. The Minister again will understand me when I say that the provision now included in this Finance Bill will mean, in effect, that in a period of stable stock prices 75 per cent of any increase in stock has to be financed from after tax profits. If prices are rising, then the proportion that must be financed from after tax profits is even greater. Therefore, the measure we have before us, while it is positive on the clawback side, will not be a very substantial assistance or incentive to increasing stock numbers.

If I may be a little sour for a moment, I would have to admit that perhaps that is not too important in the present situation, because one would have to travel a long day around this country and visit many farms before one would find anybody in a position to be increasing stock. Unfortunately, most farmers are now looking at the prospect of reducing stock numbers in order to comply with these daft European Community restrictions on stocking rates and this insane integrated administration and controls system that the Minister is imposing on us, including all the destocking provisions that are in place now. It is an exception to find a farmer who is thinking of increasing stocking but this will knock totally on the head any such ideas that might be lurking around. The Minister should re-examine that provision between now and Committee Stage in order to find a more balanced way of dealing with those few cases where there might be a prospect over the next few years of actually increasing stock.

There is little in this year's budget in terms of tax reform, but I would like to suggest a few small measures that the Minister might consider between now and Committee Stage which I do not believe will cost a great deal of money but which will have a substantial effect on some groups of people.

The Deputy has two minutes remaining.

One group is the people who are in receipt of pensions — usually more than one pension, but small enough — who are treated in our income tax code in the same way as self-employed people are treated. They will get a notice in November that they must make a preliminary tax payment in November equal to the estimated total liability for the tax they will have for the full year. For people on low incomes to have to pay their full income tax liability effectively in the month of November is a major disruption. It is not that they cannot pay if it is spread out over the year, but to have to pay it in the same way that self-employed people do — in the month of November — is excessively onerous. Of course, these people are on computer in the Revenue Commissioners offices. They are in the system, they are known and if they do not make the payment they are pursued. Once you are in the system you will always be pursued. They have a very strong sense of grievance, first, that they must pay their tax in a lump sum and, second, they feel — and they are probably right — that they are pursued more vigorously than other people who perhaps have much larger incomes.

The last Government and Deputy McCreevy, as Minister for Social Welfare, tried to take the first tentative steps towards integrating our tax and social welfare system. However, they seem to have received such a bad fright from the reaction which greeted that step that they have discarded all ideas of ever trying to do this. I regret that is the case and I urge the Minister — it will not affect this year's Finance Bill in any way — to give serious consideration to what is required in order to integrate fully our tax and social welfare systems. Both systems would gain enormously from that and we would be in a far better position to deal equitably with both social welfare recipients and low income taxpayers.

I wish to share my time with my colleague, Deputy Batt O'Keeffe who will be here shortly.

Is that satisfactory? Agreed.

I would like to begin my contribution to this debate by congratulating the Minister for Finance, Deputy Bertie Ahern, on his handling of the Greencore Davy stockbroker debate last week. I think it is now clear to everyone that there was no conspiracy on the part of Davys, but it must be said that their handling of the whole affair was nothing short of disastrous and in my view it was a major own goal. We now find ourselves in the bizarre situation where a major bank owns 30 per cent of Greencore. Of course, none of this would have happened if one month ago, when ADM were looking to buy the shares and become a partner, they were encouraged to do so. Unfortunately, blind ideology triumphed over commonsense and Greencore lost the opportunity of much needed investment and the added bonus of being associated with a like minded company.

One of the most interesting points to come out of last week's debate on this issue was the fact that the new and much heralded Fine Gael spokesman on Finance contributed to the debate in his usual manner. He did not offer any advice to the Government on how the affair should now be handled. He did not offer any advice on how the Attorney General or the Stock Exchange should handle their inquiries. What he did do was ask for the Minister's resignation. This is not what anyone would call imaginative. What we wait for with bated breath on this side of the House is for the Opposition spokesman to come up with something constructive about any issue. Almost every day he tells anyone who will listen to him about the botch-up the Government is making of the economy. But when he gets an opportunity to contribute to such an important debate the best he can offer is to call for the Minister's head. I admire the Minister for Finance for his imaginative approach in the Finance Bill and his handling of the whole Greencore affair.

The Finance Bill is on the whole very positive. Again I congratulate the Minister for introducing a recognition of initiative and investment. The overall employment package outlines such schemes as the BES, special investment accounts and the seed capital scheme, which are all part of this initiative. The seed capital scheme is perhaps one of the most innovative schemes ever introduced in any economy. It is very welcome, and I am sure it will be a major success. Tribute must be paid to the Department of Finance officials and to the Minister for introducing such a scheme.

However, there are some less positive aspects of the Bill, particularly the probate tax, which may become another estate-death duty tax. I am worried that future Governments may increase this tax, thereby causing major problems, especially for the farming community. In the past any such an increase caused much hardship and necessitated the disposal of many family farms. Taxes introduced at a low level may increase over the years and cause much hardship. No matter what guarantees the Minister gives in regard to the probate tax being charged at 2 per cent on the value of an estate over £10,000, I would envisage the liability being increased and the value of the estate to be taxed being decreased as the years pass. In introducing such a tax there is also the possibility that the family residence, regardless of whether there is a surviving spouse, would be brought into this new tax net in the future.

We must avoid any further tax on work and initiative and declare war on bureaucracy. In this regard it may not be too late to simplify some of the measures, including the number of bodies established to deal with the schemes. Already, we have ample proof, if proof were needed, of red tape and chaos in the farming community with farmers becoming buried in paper work and having less time to farm their holdings. I would like to compliment those Teagasc personnel who provide valuable assistance to the farming community in the compilation and completion of new forms, a task which is a nightmare for consultants and advisers as well as farmers.

In the past number of years we have witnessed some underhand and sharp practices. Sadly, but perhaps inevitably, our reaction is to set up inquiries and spend vast sums of taxpayers' money on legal and other consultancy fees. Following those inquiries there is an enactment of even more rules and regulations, more codes of conduct and more committees. This is surely not the answer. We need a well trained, properly staffed and funded fraud squad, a body that would have the power to implement appropriate penalties when an offence is committed. The Finance Act is only the tip of this iceberg. We must declare war on bureaucracy. We must support the initiative for enterprise and job creation. We must begin in earnest to tackle our penal tax system shifting the burden from its crippling effects on jobs and enterprise.

I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate Deputy Kemmy on his recent statement where he accepts the notion of a tax amnesty in respect of "hot" money. This conversion by the Deputy to modern capitalism is to be warmly welcomed but one wonders if it will last and if the Deputy will continue to support this Government, of which at times he appears to forget his party forms part. Capitalists all over the country must be rejoicing to hear, of their new supporter, Deputy Kemmy. We have been told that a substantial amount of money, known as "hot" money has been taken out of this country for investment abroad. I share the view expressed by Deputy Kemmy that this money could be brought back to Ireland and invested in State loans, bonds, etc. for a period of five years before release. In that way it would make a contribution to the economy. This idea was first courageously mooted by my colleague from South Tipperary, Deputy Davern. Much of the money that was invested abroad was invested in good faith but it should now be brought back here and invested in Government bonds.

There has been much hype in regard to the VAT increase on clothing, I would like to put this issue in context. Fianna Fáil has always been the party committed to generating sustainable jobs and ensuring well-founded economic growth. This necessitates firm control of our public finances. Budget formulation must maintain a careful balance between prudence and economic growth. The members of Fine Gael should remember that important principle. We recall their attempts at introducing budgets were nothing short of disastrous. In terms of VAT on clothing, we must remember we have a number of obligations since the advent of the Single Market. Last October the EC rates directive, stated that all member states should have a single standard VAT rate which must be at least 15 per cent. Would the Deputies on the other side of the House suggest that we accept only certain aspects of our membership? As I have stated on previous occasions, I have great sympathy for the clothing industry which is facing many difficulties. They share those difficulties with many other sectors of Irish industry. Such budgetary decisions are not taken lightly. They are taken only after a very careful process of consideration. I can understand the frustration of the Opposition Deputies. They have been languishing in Opposition for so long now that they have forgotten the responsibilities and the difficult decisions that are part and parcel of being in Government.

Another aspect of this Bill which I would like to refer to is the stock relief for farmers. I must refer to the great buoyancy in Irish agriculture, something that would have been unheard of a number of years ago. Today we have highest prices ever for milk, beef cattle, cows and sheep. This is proof of the Government's commitment to the running of the agricultural affairs of the country and is a tribute to the efforts of the Minister for Agriculture, Food and Forestry, Deputy Joe Walsh.

The Bill implements the changes in the stock relief arrangements for farmers announced in April of this year. The old stock relief scheme lapsed on 5 April and is not being renewed. Under that scheme, farmers were allowed a tax relief in the form of a deduction from trading profits of 110 per cent of the increase in value of trading stock which occurred in an accounting period. Where the value of stock subsequently declined, any relief given was generally clawed back. Those claw back arrangements are also being abolished with effect from the same date to ensure that farmers with declining stock values, caused by recent changes in the Common Agricultural Policy, will not suffer adverse tax consequences. A new stock relief scheme has been introduced for the two year period, 6 April 1993 to 5 April 1995. This gives farmers a deduction from trading profits of 25 per cent of the increase in value of trading stock in an accounting period and there will be no clawback arrangement. This will assist the herd expansion or diversification of farm enterprises. I have some concerns regarding the adjustment of stock reliefs and its implications for young persons entering farming by way of joint venture. However, the basic premise of joint venture is that in a period of five to seven years, the operator would build up equity in the form of livestock. Therefore, the removal of stock relief is a major disadvantage. I would urge the Minister to consider carefully the full implications of this proposal. Many submissions have been made by the farmers' associations and the farm apprenticeship boards, they are practical in their approach and merit some attention.

While I welcome the concept of a 1 per cent levy to assist those who are unemployed, I am concerned that the levy will be a permanent measure and will in time be used, not for the creation of jobs, but to help alleviate Exchequer borrowing requirements. The PAYE worker cannot afford to pay more levies. I am sure no one would complain about paying a 1 per cent levy on income in order to help create jobs for the unemployed. However, I would like the Minister to assure us here and those outside, too, who are paying this levy, that it will be closely monitored and the returns directed towards the area for which they are intended.

The matter of interest rates has to be the cause of much concern. While there has been a substantial decrease in terms of the wholesale rate, the retail rate is not realistic. Today, the one month rate is approximately 8 per cent while the overdraft rate is approximately 12.5 per cent. That leaves a margin of 4.5 per cent and that is too high. I call on the Government and on the Minister for Finance to request the banks to reduce that margin, which, while putting business at a serious disadvantage, is adding to the substantial profits of the banking institutions. Devaluation was a great help to our economy. Having on our doorstep, as it were, a market which takes 36 per cent of our industrial and finished goods is a great help to our economy. We must not lose sight of that factor.

I wish the Danish people well in their referendum which is to take place this weekend. I hope it will have a success for Maastricht because if there is not a positive outcome there will be uncertainty in this economy and in the other European economies, too. A no vote in the Danish referendum could lead to uncertainty in the financial markets and to high interest rates. We had to deal with such problems when our currency was overvalued. Our economy is very dependent on other economies and negative outside influences can have a very damaging and serious effect on it.

I wish the Finance Bill every success. In view of the fact that it is being dealt with by a very capable Minister for Finance, I have no doubt that it will be a success. The Minister emerged from a baptism of fire last Thursday with flying colours. This is the first imaginative and constructive budget we have seen for a long number of years.

I thank Deputy Ned O'Keeffe for sharing his time with me. I, too, welcome this Bill which is different to other Finance Bills in that it has adopted a number of different approaches, all of which are geared towards the creation of employment. At the end of the day that is what a Finance Bill should seek to achieve.

In the short time available to me I wish to concentrate on two aspects of the Bill, one of which relates to research and development. As someone who up to recently lectured in a regional college, I am very aware of the potential of people who have a high level of expertise and knowledge in this area. These people are crying out to play a role in ensuring that research and development is given its proper place in the creation of jobs for our young people in the future. Third level institutions which sought to promote research and development and establish links with industries within their immediate environment encountered a real difficulty. This difficulty related to the business expansion scheme whereby one had to be trading for three to four months before one could quality for assistance. This Bill will remove that imposition. Industry and third level institutions now have a golden opportunity to come together, agree research and development programmes and satisfy themselves that an opportunity exists for involvement in the BES at a much earlier stage, thus ensuring that the necessary capital is available to get the various ventures up and running.

If we believe that our third level institutions have the necessary expertise in this area then they should be the instrument through which we create meaningful jobs. I regard this Bill as being of paramount importance in ensuring the initiation of research and development which will lead to meaningful, high tech, long term jobs, many of which will be indigenous and many of which will ensure that there is a correlation between the multinational companies which set up here and Irish industry. If this is done we will at long last be getting to grips with the linkage programme we have all sought to establish. Such a programme will enable local industries to manufacture the components which are so necessary for many multinational companies operating here. Our third level institutions will now have an opportunity to get involved in this area. These institutions were crying out in the past for this opportunity and the Minister for Finance has given it to them in this Bill. They should grab this opportunity and make use of it.

The small business sector also has the potential to stimulate job creation. The scheme whereby people can reclaim their PAYE contributions over a three year period is very interesting. Many people working in the public sector have great ideas on how to stimulate job creation, but they have been brought up to believe that one should stay in a safe pensionable job rather than take chances by investing in enterprise. I believe many people will avail of this scheme to invest in their solid job creation ideas. In addition to the opportunities which exist under schemes run by FÁS and the IDA, the Minister for Finance has provided the opportunity for people to bring their job creation ideas into fruition in the knowledge that they can claim back their PAYE contributions over three years. Many people believe that these contributions are going straight into the public coffers and are not being put to any practical use. These contributions can now be used for productive purposes in the creation of jobs.

I wish to refer to the concept of local communities. I believe that we do not give the necessary recognition to the efforts of local communities. It is very important that we harness the energy which exists within local communities. How often in the past have we seen local communities coming together to raise money for a particular project? How many developments and community centres have been built by local communities? Unfortunately, the community development culture was absent along the line; people came together to form a community but everything stopped at that stage. The community enterprise boards are the answer to the vacuum which exists in this area. These boards will enable those people who know exactly what their communities need and the opportunities which exist in their area to avail of grants. As a man from the Millstreet area, I do not think anyone could give a better example of the local community concept than the Millstreet community. This year the Eurovision Song Contest will be a community-led project. A number of people from Millstreet harnessed their energies——

Give the Chair a few tickets.

Does the Deputy have a ticket for everyone in the audience?

The holding of the Eurovision Song Contest in Millstreet will be of enormous benefit to the local community and the country generally.

In terms of an instrument used to develop and rejuvenate our economy and to set down clear policy guidelines, I question where this Bill will rate in the full measure of time? I still believe this Bill should be consigned to the shredder as it will certainly not make any contribution to the development of our economy and the creation of jobs. Every party, every independent Member of this House, has spoken about one issue in recent years — job creation. Elections have been fought on job creation. Committees have been established on job creation. Departments have been changed for job creation. There have been massive changes effected everywhere. Yet the one instrument that could have recognised and dealt with the need to make real progress in this area, this latest budget, was not availed of for that purpose.

At the time the Minister made his Budget Statement I had a certain sympathy for him, because the circumstances then prevailing in our economy were not very favourable. We just had the currency crisis and the devaluation of our pound and the outlook for ordinary people — PAYE workers, mortgage holders and those with loans large or small —was deplorable. One felt that the Minister was endeavouring to do the best he could, given the deck of cards and the way the hand had been dealt him. He was trying to make the best of dire circumstances.

What has happened since is that, beyond eveybody's expectations — including those of the Department of Finance, the Government and the Minister himself — things have changed dramatically for the better. Certainly, that has not come about as a result of any Government action in the recent past, or because economic conditions here have changed. Clearly, this has arisen because of international factors changing and the decision — taken too belatedly — to devalue our currency ultimately forced on the Minister for Finance. Let us accept the benefit of what has occurred in recent months since the Minister introduced his budget.

I would have thought that this Finance Bill would have presented the Minister with a golden opportunity to effect within a very short space of time substantial alterations to his budgetary proposals since circumstances had changed so dramatically. I would have thought that the proposals for a 1 per cent income levy, a probate tax, VAT increases on clothing and the footwear industry, could have been dramatically altered or abolished altogether. Indeed, I would have expected that the Labour Party in particular, since this is a so-called partnership Government, would have seized that opportunity, with their six Ministers at the Cabinet table, to persuade the Minister for Finance to effect such alterations in the Finance Bill. I believe such amendments would have been welcomed by all sides of the House. But, more importantly, it would have been welcomed by employers, employees and the unemployed, those on the margins endeavouring to sustain a job, those seeking work and those employers who have been barely hanging on. Clearly that opportunity was not taken. What message does that convey to us? It demonstrates that this Government over its lifetime will do nothing radical and will not be reforming or imaginative. Certainly, it will not take risks where such may be called for, but will generally plod along, hoping that at the end of the day when its term of office will have expired at least it will not have made matters worse. That would appear to be the objective of this Government — that it will not make matters worse and that nobody can criticise it in such circumstances.

In this respect the Minister for Finance has proved himself already to be a replica of many of his predecessors who served in Coalition Governments with the Labour Party. It appears he became a prisoner of a push by the Labour Party — from a totally different ideological viewpoint — and of weak leadership in the Taoiseach's office. It is clear to me that in endeavouring to accommodate certain philosophies or moves in certain directions he was unable to maintain his position and undertake the action he believed fundamentally should have been taken by him as Minister for Finance. Clearly he had not the back-up of his Taoiseach to implement the necessary changes, while bending to the needs of the Labour Party on the other side. That crippled the previous Coalition Government involving the Labour Party in the mid-eighties and the previous Coalition Government in which the Labour Party were involved in the seventies.

While the lessons and constraints on us because of European influence may not be as dramatic or devastating on our economy, certainly they will not improve our economy or the position of those who seek employment in the years ahead.

I listened with great interest to what Deputy Costello had to say in this Chamber about an hour ago. Certainly he is not the same man who was a colleague of mine some short six months ago in Seanad Éireann, when he was well able to speak of his own volition in a very coherent and able manner. It was something else to behold him here today, coming in to deliver a Government-type script the contents of which he clearly did not believe in and with which he was uncomfortable. He said one thing I want to nail down here today in the context of tax reform. More than any other party here the Progressive Democrats tried — and with considerable success, particularly during our time in Government — to bring about reform of our taxation system, in particular a reduction in the tax wedge on those at the margins. In what appeared to be a follow-on to what the Taoiseach stated in recent weeks, Deputy Costello said that the tax reform that had taken place had not led to increased employment here.

That is totally wrong. I might recommend that the Deputy and others, including the Taoiseach, read the latest annual report of the Revenue Commissioners for 1991, in particular page 18, and refer to the graphs shown there. One graph shows that employment growth between the years 1989 and 1991-92 was by any yardstick substantial — 1,120,000 people were employed in 1989 and the figure is now approaching 1.2 million people. Clearly there has been sustained growth in employment during the period 1989 to end 1992. It is extraordinary that that growth should occur at the time the Progressive Democrats were in Government, demonstrating that it was occasioned by the tax changes and the continuation of the action taken in previous years having a real effect in the marketplace. Not only did the numbers at work increase, having been flat or on a downward trend for a considerable number of years before that, but the number of employers also rose significantly, from approximately 100,000 to 115,000 traders and employers.

That improvement, given the picture that had obtained in the preceding years, was a substantial turnaround. That was an improvement this Government should have foreseen and should have sought to continue the process which had led to those increases for the first time in many years. One would have thought that they would have sought to continue that process in this budget and Finance Bill. In addition, over that period the number of VAT registrations arose. It can be clearly seen therefore that employment was growing, the number of employers increasing and that many aspects of our economy were improving.

That leads me to question what will be the effect of the budgetary provisions and of this Finance Bill. Since the figures are there to prove it already, I predict we will see a reduction in the numbers at work here. We have observed already their effects on the clothing industry, with companies and retail shops closing down and jobs being lost. I might point out that, even before the introduction of this budget, the clothing industry itself had predicted a decrease in activity in retail and manufacturing sales in the current year. Yet, the Minister increased the rate of VAT on the industry by 30 per cent. That is appalling. Members on the Government side of the House said that each industry has to bear the brunt but I do not know of any other indigenous industry of such importance, in terms of its potential to create employment, which had to endure such a shattering blow in the budget. It is hard to understand the reason, given that between budget day and today the country has been crying out for changes, that these cannot be made.

The point I wish to make to the Labour Party and to its colleagues in Government, the Fianna Fáil Party, is that it is wrong to suggest that the changes made during the past few years in regard to tax reform have not led to the creation of jobs. The figures prove that they have. I have no doubt that I and others will return to these figures in the years ahead when a different picture will have emerged for the simple reason that the Government will have moved backwards. For the first time in five years a Government has introduced a budget which will widen the tax wedge. That will be the hallmark of this Government in developing the economy.

The 2 per cent probate tax can only be described as despicable. In the present climate, when we are experiencing difficulties in the economy, it is outrageous that such a tax should be introduced on estates valued over £10,000 without having any regard to the effect this will have on the people involved. There is a presumption on the part of the Minister for Finance that somehow these people have cash reserves and substantial savings in bank or building society accounts but, as the Minister and everybody in this House should know, those who own small businesses and small farmers are struggling to survive. The Minister seems to believe that these are easy pickings, that it is a matter of taking only small sums of money out of the estate and that this tax will not have any real effect. However, people will be forced to sell some of their assets, which they need to stay in business to pay this tax. It will ultimately affect their ability to sustain their small businesses and employment in those businesses.

Where are the majority of these small businesses and enterprises to be found? They are in rural Ireland. We are trying to keep them away from Dublin, which is being turned into an urban monolith. In introducing this tax the Minister is attacking the fabric of the cottage industry — the small shopkeeper and small farmer. I would like to know who dreamed up this 2 per cent tax, who had this flash of inspiration and who the genius was who saw this as an easy way to raise some extra funds to balance the books without having any regard to the impact it would have. It is reprehensible at a time of great turmoil in a person's life, the death of a family member, that they will have to meet an unnecessary tax liability. It should never have been introduced.

It is to the shame of the Minister and the two parties in Government that they have stood over the introduction of this tax. The vast majority of Deputies on the other side of the House represent rural constituencies and they continually meet business people who are struggling to keep small towns and villages alive. Yet, they can cynically stand over the introduction of this disgraceful tax. This is extraordinary and I do not understand it.

During the past 24 to 48 hours there has been a great discussion on the changes in telephone charges by Telecom Éireann. Everybody will welcome the reduction in international telephone call charges given that they were out of kilter with charges in the rest of Europe to the detriment of industry in this country. Coupled with this, local telephone call charges have been increased while rental charges are among the highest in Europe.

In reference to the Culliton report, I do not accept that Governments have the right to interfere in public companies. Business cannot operate if, on the one, hand, they are told they must operate on a commercial basis and, on the other, they are issued with Government decrees. The way to ensure fair and reasonable telephone charges is to bring monoplies to an end. I do not believe in monopolies, be they private or public. Is the ESB next in two months' time, to be followed by An Post? When is Government interference in commercial semi-State companies to end? It is both unwelcome and unwarranted. As everybody is aware, the answer is to bring monopolies to an end and create competition in the market place. We should let the market place and the consumer decide the value of any product or service. We should not create artificial barriers to trade.

I subscribe to the view that we should have a simplified tax system which would result in the removal of hidden benefits and tax breaks so that the person earning a wage would have the right to retain the largest possible amount of money in his pocket, would be the master of his own destiny and decide for himself what he wants to spend his money on. It should be possible to do this if we only had the guts and the courage to do it. Instead, we keep introducing incentives with the result that those who want to do anything need to have a firm of accountants and tax consultants to advise them. This is not the way forward and the sooner we realise this the better. In the long run if the consumer and the employer had spending power they would use it in such a way that jobs would be created.

I have a great deal more to say but time has run out.

I wish to share my time with Deputy Hughes.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

I am pleased to have this opportunity to highlight a number of issues contained in the Finance Bill published last Thursday. Successive Fianna Fáil Governments have stressed their continuing commitment to creating employment. The Minister has stated on numerous occasions that jobs are the overriding priority of the Government. We have to do whatever is required to increase employment, short and long term. The Government is determined to take action to create more employment and this is stated clearly in the Programme for a Partnership Government. The programme also affirms our commitment to achieving a fair and just society in which job creation is central as there is no greater inequity than unemployment. This is well known to Members from their experience in the constituencies.

The Finance Bill contains a special package of measures aimed at encouraging, in a focused and targeted way, investment in business and industry. Overall financial stability is the key requirement for business development, growth and job creation generally. The availability to industry of adequate equity finance, especially in start-up and developing businesses, has become of increasing concern over the past number of years and certain specific incentives are needed to enhance that availability. Capital spending will increase by 27 per cent or by £500 million and this will provide major stimulus to the economy and to employment.

The combination of moneys from the Public Capital Programme, the Cohesion Fund and the additional expenditure by the Enterprise Partnership Boards is, by any standard, a very substantial stimulus to the economy and a major boost to employment. The outlook is for an increase in the total number of jobs. The total number at work outside agriculture is expected to rise by 6,000 and the labour force is expected to grow by approximately 27,000. Having taken these figures into account, the Government introduced a number of specific taxation measures to assist the capitalisation of business and the funding of business start-ups. Taxation is, of course, only one aspect of Government policy. The Culliton report came out very strongly against large scale tax reliefs and exemptions. Each of the proposals in this Bill is targeted at a particular type of investor and investment so that the overall package is designed to meet the various different needs of the economy. The business expansion scheme and the special investment accounts have the potential to make a significant contribution to improving the availability of equity funds to business over the next number of years. The Government has renewed the BES for a further three years and in February of this year introduced special investment accounts.

The Programme for a Partnership Government states that the BES would be extended to encourage productive investment that will result in job creation. In fulfilment of that commitment and in view of the employment potential of the scheme, it was renewed for another three years, up to 1996. This is justified on the basis of maintaining the scheme's current focus on economic sectors and firms that are both high risk and offer a prospect of substantial extra output and jobs. The lifetime cap on individual investors of £75,000 in respect of subscriptions made on or after the budget is being abolished although it is not being removed in respect of subscriptions made prior to the budget. This will mean that BES projects can begin immediately to raise money from investors who were previously excluded by the ceiling. The extension of the business expansion scheme and removal of the lifetime cap will provide a significant boost to business. The business expansion scheme is designed to encourage direct personal investment in smaller companies. To provide a further incentive to generating employment, the Government introduced special investment accounts from 1 February 1993 which are designed to encourage collective investment in Irish companies and to direct personal investment in publicly quoted companies. They can be offered by life assurance companies, unit trusts and stockbrokers. Income tax relief is currently available to an employee who invests up to £750 in new ordinary shares in his or her employing company. The limit for this investment is being increased to £3,000 and the income tax relief allowance for these employees will double. This is a clear indication of the Government's efforts to encourage job creation.

The 1 per cent income levy which will apply for the year 1993-94 also outlines the Government's ongoing commitment to fighting the current unacceptable level of unemployment. This levy is payable by all individuals over the age of 16 but there are specific exemptions to protect the low paid. For example, in the case of the self-employed, exemptions will apply where income for the year is not greater than £9,000. In the case of employees, the levy will be payable in any week where income is greater than £173 per week. Medical card holders, including those whose income is over and above £9,000 per annum are also exempt from the levy. All social welfare payments are exempt from the levy and will not be taken into account in determining whether an individual qualified for an income exemption from the levy. Apart from these provisions and the improvement in the general climate for equity investment in recent months, this Bill contains a number of further specific measures to encourage investment in the economy which is of vital importance to employment potential and job creation.

One of the new schemes introduced in this Bill to encourage entrepreneurs to start their own business is the seed capital scheme which allows the entrepreneur to claim a refund of tax paid on previous income in respect of his or her investment in the new company. This matter was raised by the Fianna Fáil Parliamentary Party and was brought to the Minister's attention by various members, I am particularly glad to note he has taken this recommendation on board. This highlights Fianna Fáil's continuing commitment to tackling the job crisis. When the Taoiseach became leader of our party 16 months ago he emphasised that the continuing rise in the unemployment figures was one of his greatest worries and that he would do everything in his power to tackle the problem.

I am pleased Fianna Fáil has been actively working to alleviate the problem of unemployment and will continue to do so. This Bill is only one aspect where we have acted on our commitment to create jobs.

It is very easy for Members who are not making the decisions to have all the answers. I listened to Opposition Members very carefully but when they were on this side they had their opportunity to make a contribution. We are suffering from the legacy which those on the other side of the House left us after their period in Government in the mid-1980s. We are now endeavouring to come to grips with the problems and I am confident that with the commitment of this Government we will make major inroads in solving our problems, particularly unemployment.

I thank Deputy Dan Wallace for sharing his time with me. Deputy Cullen expressed concern for the people who will be subject to probate tax, particularly business people and farmers, but the reality is that the tax does not apply to those categories provided there is a lifetime transfer of the assets. It is a tax on inheritance rather than on gifts. I hope the proposals of the Minister for Agriculture, Food and Forestry, Deputy Joe Walsh, on the early retirement scheme for farmers will be acceptable to the Commission. This will accelerate, quite properly, the transfer of farmland to young farmers. The people who avail of that scheme, rather than being penalised with tax, will receive a State pension, something unheard of previously. This will encourage the proper structuring of that industry.

In the Fianna Fáil and Labour Programme for a Partnership Government the main emphasis, quite correctly is on creating jobs and tackling unemployment. This will be the main thrust of the programme for Government for the next four years. While those who are without work must in the interim period have their social welfare benefits increased to take account of the cost of living increases, the correct emphasis of this year's budget is towards the development of an enterprise culture. It is only through the development of a strong indigenous industrial force that we can generate much needed employment. This direction must be adhered to during the lifetime of this Government regardless of what criticism may be mounted by Opposition parties.

In times of hugh unemployment, which is evident not only in Ireland but throughout the European Community, would it be too much to suggest that all of us have a responsibility to be constructive and supportive of innovative measures which are designed to encourage self-help, initiative and enterprise?

The main daily newspapers on the day after the news conference to announce details of the Finance Bill gave fair balance to the main proposals of the Bill. Despite Opposition Deputies rushing off press releases decrying selected tax increases as announced in the budget, the headlines in these papers referred to "incentive aims to boost self starters", "Changes in the BES scheme would help small business", "A plan for clothing and footwear industries", "Up to £36,000 in tax refund to boost startups", "New reliefs aimed at job creation", "Hoteliers happier", "Boom for film makers", "Jobs push on pension funds" and "New provisions to aid investments". All those headlines were taken from the Irish Independent. Such headlines are not the creation of a Government press office but rather of experienced journalists and economic writers, assessing in an objective way the thrust and direction of this Government. The general consensus of experienced economic commentators is that this is an imaginative and commendable Finance Bill containing a range of positive measures designed to stimulate investment and employment growth.

None of us can ever be happy with direct and indirect tax increases. However taxation policy cannot remain sterile, immovable and unchanging. The people we represent have more intelligence than may be ascribed to them by Opposition spokesmen who try to cloud and divert the public's ability to realise that this Government is serious about its intentions to reward work, risk taking and entrepreneurial activities. The focus is now directed to the indigenous Irish industries of small and medium size firms and the potential for further growth in this area.

Statistics show that in the main employment levels have been maintained in Irish indigenous firms despite outside economic factors over which we had little or no control. This fact is emphasised in the Irish service sector, which has seen a substantial increase in employment. With the improvement of our telecommunications and communication networks with Europe and elsewhere this increase in service jobs can continue if properly fostered. That fact is implicit in the Finance Bill in the reduction of VAT on selected service industries.

Irish owned companies are increasingly establishing overseas subsidiary industries, be they manufacturing or marketing arms. Clearly, with the advent of the Single Market, greater penetration of the European marketplace is essential if we are to have growth in productivity and manpower levels. The proposals in the Finance Bill are in the main directed to stimulate investment in manufacturing and certain service companies. Research and development is the foundation upon which progressive and forward looking new businesses are based. For that reason I welcome the Bill's provision to allow for expenditure on research and development related to certain activities so that they can qualify in their own right for BES relief.

The Finance Bill and the measures contained therein are not the sole instruments available to Government to reverse the numbers unemployed and to encourage expansion in manufacturing industry and services. The response of the Government to the Moriarty Task Force on the implementation of the Cullition report is now part of Government policy. The many measures contained therein will not only firm up the foundations for continued economic growth but, combined with carefully selected initiatives and incentives, will restore confidence in the Irish investor and the entrepreneurs in our society to consider going it alone in the marketplace or, alternatively, availing of business expansion schemes or investing their savings. These savings can be indirectly invested through the Irish equity market for the benefit of our main quoted companies.

The Culliton report pointed to an undersupply of seed capital, venture capital and development capital for small firms. In this they saw a role for tax incentives to address the shortage of such capital and recommended the retention of the BES in that context. In the Finance Bill the Minister not only retained the BES and made additions to it, as outlined in his Budget Statement, but he has substantially increased the attractiveness of the scheme by allowing a 100 per cent increase in the limit on the amount of BES capital that can be raised by a company and, most importantly, by relaxing the restriction whereby an individual with more than 30 per cent of the capital or voting power of the company can claim BES relief in respect of any share subscription in that company. Such an individual can claim relief where the total share and loan capital does not exceed £150,000. There are many Irish companies owned by individuals who have an extremely narrow shareholder base, often comprising husband and wife or children. The new capital gains tax roll over relief to be granted to an individual who holds at least 15 per cent of the voting power, has been a full time employee or director and who disposes of his shareholding and re-invests within three years, creates flexibility in a scheme which in the main was dominated by management and stock broking firms and other such institutions who created new start up projects, which of course were welcomed. The original restrictions prevented many small family owned companies of availing of this additional capital source to further expand their business.

I particularly welcome the special financial help announced for the clothing and footwear industries. As I stated in this House when we discussed Deputy Ivan Yates' Private Members' motion, I regret the 5 per cent VAT increase, but the Minister had clearly signalled the direction of VAT rates in his 1992 budget. He has responded to the intensive lobbying of the retail and manufacturing operations who employ at least 24,000 people. I stated at that time that the Minister's officials would have to look behind the statistics which were produced with a view to particularly saving our indigenous fashion sector of the clothing and footwear industries. Clearly, within the entire fram work of the federation there are some very large players who have a competitive edge on both the English and in some instances European markets. These large firms have such momentum, efficiency and productivity levels as to make them competitive, but none of these industries are located west of the Shannon except for one large player in Donegal. The prospects of re-employment of redundant workers in small rural communities, if they are dislocated by competitive forces, is remote.

I press the Minister to consider seriously the reduction of employer's PRSI to restore competitive advantage in difficult trading times. I am pleased to note that an urgent review is being carried out into the impact on low paid manufacturing firms of the operation of the employer's PRSI system. I accept the Minister's bona fides in this matter, as I do his statement that this is a matter for social welfare legislation and not for the Finance Bill.

This industry has been under attack on several fronts not only since the introduction of the budget but rather for a considerable period leading up to the budget. The announcement of the closures of Beeline Fashions of Chapelizod, Dublin 20, with the loss of 124 jobs on the day of the news conference to announce details of the Finance Bill is significant in that context. In its statement it refers to cost structures, the impact of the currency crisis and a period of high interest rates, together with the increase on VAT on clothing, as contributing to its decision to close. As a person with experience in that industry I feel that the inclusion of the reference to cost structures is the most telling of all, and the VAT increase introduced on 1 March may be described by some commentators as the final nail in the coffin.

Accordingly, it is imperative that the review of PRSI be considered immediately together with ongoing consultations with the representatives of the industries concerned, IBEC.

I welcome the announcement by the Minister that temporary financial assistance would be given to clothing firms which can show that their viability and employment are threatened by the budget decision to increase the VAT rate from 16 to 21 per cent. This relief will be channelled to the industry by a similar structure to the market development fund, but of course it can only be of a temporary nature. The criteria of the IDA in assisting technological development in this sector will have to be fleshed out so that an effective and responsible response is given to the industry.

I welcome the Minister's announcement to bring proposals to Government for inclusion on Committee Stage of the Bill about extending the 10 per cent rate of corporation tax to the advertising income of newspapers. The Minister might also consider extending this special relief to the independent radio stations, who in the main are not in a healthy state. This would be seen as recognition not only of the creativity that goes into the making of advertisements, treating it as a manufacturing process, but also of the very important social and competitive roles they play on our national airwaves. I would like to say much more but I appreciate that my time has expired.

The failure of the Minister to respond to representations to raise the threshold for taxing redundancy payments from £6,000, which was set in 1976, to a realistic figure has caused great disappointment in Galway. The £250 a year concession is a very inadequate response from the Government. The loss of 780 jobs at Digital in Galway in February focused great attention on Galway. Public representatives were all for compensating the Digital workers. It was hinted that provision would be made in the Finance Bill to change the method of redundancy payment so as to aid any redundant worker who used his redundancy money to pay off a mortgage. The Digital workers have been patient until now. They conducted a solid campaign with their public representatives. They refrained from holding demonstrations or public meetings so as not to damage the chances of attracting a substitute industry to Galway or into the Digital plant. The lack of response from the Government, and especially from the Ministers who represent the constituency, is very disappointing.

I was informed today that a public meeting will now be held in Galway by these workers on Sunday evening. While bringing the matter to public attention might have repercussions for the replacement of the industry, they see it as being necessary and this is only occurring because of the frustration felt after expectations had been built up with regard to the Finance Bill. Hopes have been dashed and the workers see no alternative to bringing the matter to public attention. They are demanding an explanation for the crocodile tears shed after the announcement of the 780 redundancies in February.

The workers will ask serious questions at that meeting and they will want to know if the Ministers representing the constituency were not able to get the message across at Cabinet that something positive should be done. Expectations were raised with regard to the Finance Bill and the provisions in it are a huge disappointment to the Digital workers and others. The addition of £250 per year of service to the minimum tax threshold of £6,000 is an inadequate response. The £6,000 threshold was introduced in 1976 and an alteration now amounting to an extra £250 for every year of service will have little or no effect. The average service of the Digital workers in Galway is ten or 11 years which will add only £2,500 extra to the threshold before their redundancy payments become taxable.

I refrained from making any public statement on that matter during the discussions with the Minister. Like others I made some private representations but I felt that a public debate at the time might not have been helpful. Because of what has happened I will be tabling amendments to the Bill to provide more benefit for the workers. I will be asking that the limit be increased to something of the order of £15,000 or £20,000 and that the standard capital superannuation benefit should apply after ten years rather than 20 years. This would greatly help workers who are made redundant in any company. I am stressing Digital because when those redundancies occurred it was very big national and international news at the time. I am doing so also because of the expectations that were raised by public representatives and members of the Government among those workers with regard to the Finance Bill.

A number of speakers on the Government side stressed the importance of employment creation. Unemployment is one of our biggest problems. It is a worry for parents, for children and for the Government. The introduction of a 1 per cent income levy is nothing short of criminal at a time when everybody is trying to do something about job creation. I am not impressed with the promise that this is only a temporary little measure. Temporary little measures introduced before lasted ten and 12 years, and some were never removed. The introduction of a 1 per cent income levy is an indication that the Government is only paying lip service to the idea that the creation of employment is one of its major tasks. Perhaps it was introduced because in theory it is an easy means of raising finance from everybody in employment. It is a further disincentive to work and it must be condemned.

The introduction of a probate tax of 2 per cent — in other words, the reintroduction of death duties or a death tax —on an estate over the value of £10,000 is another retrograde step. An estate valued at £10,000 in rural areas need only be a site. The imposition of this tax poses a very serious burden for families at a vulnerable time in their lives. It will lead to the sub-division of estates resulting in farms and houses having to be sold off to pay the probate tax. I welcomed the abolition of death duties some years ago and I am disappointed it is being reintroduced in the Bill.

I welcome the section dealing with urban renewal and designated areas. In fact, the urban renewal scheme was first introduced by a former Fine Gael Minister, Mr. John Boland. Galway was one of the first areas to respond positively to the designated areas scheme and we rebuilt the entire city centre. What were derelict sites is now a vibrant part of the city admired by people nationally and internationally. As Mayor of Galway I am proud to take visitors to that area to show them what has been done. This is one of the best examples of what can be achieved under the urban renewal scheme. Not only did the developers redesign the whole area but they retained part of the old city and brought life back into the city centre by providing 25 per cent residential accommodation in any developments. The townhouses being built over the shopping centre of Eyre Square are an excellent example of engineering skills and are commented upon favourably by many visitors.

There is still a four acre site near the docks area which is unlikely to be developed before the designated time expires at the end of October. It has not been developed because of title difficulties. In view of the co-operation by Galway corporation and the developers in the city centre scheme I appeal to the Minister to extend the time for commencement of building work in this area by one year or 18 months to allow the title of this property to be put in order. Sometimes the matter of title can prove difficult and there can be a long drawn-out process to put it in order. As the property is owned by a semi-State body — the harbour board — it should be possible to do this.

Another matter which was the subject of much comment — it was referred to by speakers on both sides of the House — was the announcement of the drastic increase in telephone charges. This represents a cruel imposition on an old age pensioner who uses the telephone to contact neighbours or members of his or her family.

They have free rental.

Yes, but telephone calls are not free. The cost of calls by those people will increase. It is ridiculous that a three minute call will cost 9.8p or whatever the new charge is to be. One of the comforts of such people has been that they could speak at length on the telephone with members of the family in other parts of the city or to their neighbour. The increase represents a serious penalty on those people It will also be a serious imposition on families, particularly people like myself with four teenagers in the home. After September when the cost of local calls will be increased I advise people to carefully examine their bill.

The imposition of a 21 per cent VAT rate on clothing has been referred to. Despite a vigorous, strong and constructive campaign by representatives of the clothing trade the Minister did not respond to them and that is regrettable. Deputy Ned O'Keefe said this increase would bring us into line with Europe where there has been a 15 per cent VAT increase. Whoever prepared his script forgot to tell him that we are proposing to put a 21 per cent VAT rate on clothing. In other words, we are now out of line and have the highest VAT rate on clothing in Europe. This will be counter productive. The Minister thinks that if last year's revenue is multiplied by a further 5 per cent or 6 per cent that that will generate a specific amount of extra revenue. There will be consumer resistance to the imposition of this tax. Shopkeepers will not be able to absorb this VAT increase in the price of their goods because they have had to do so twice already. They will have to do one of two things, or probably a little of both, pass on this tax to the customer or, something which is anti-employment, let people go.

I am sorry to interrupt the Deputy but I do so merely to advise him to bring his speech to a close.

I did not realise my time had expired. There is much more I wanted to say. The imposition of 21 per cent VAT rate on clothing and footwear shows a serious disregard by the Fianna Fáil-Labour Government for job creation. Already many in the clothing industry have been forced to lay off temporary workers and to put their permanent workers on shorter working hours. That is a condemnation of the Government's policy on job creation.

I wish to share my time with Deputy Derek McDowell who will be taking over when this debate resumes tomorrow.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

In response to Deputy McCormack, this is not the ideal Finance Bill. I would have launched a dramatic attack on the massive unemployment problem. Nevertheless the Minister said on 24 February that this was the first step in a five year programme and in many respects he made a fair start.

I welcome sections 18 to 20 in relation to seed capital. My experience as a director of the Coolock Development Council where we are trying to assist about 40 young entrepreneurs, is that there is a massive need for start-up capital. Under these sections people leaving employment or the unemployed will get tax relief equal to the previous three years to a maximum of £75,000. I also welcome the extension of the BES for three years and the raising of the company limit to £1 million.

I am also heartened by the fact that the Minister has included research and development activities within the scope of BES projects. This is an area where we were quite prepared to rely on foreign investors to look after our research and development. Unfortunately, the most innovative of them did not stay the course so now we must develop this aspect of our industry.

Most of all I welcome section 19 which provides for an increase in tax relief for employees buying shares in their own company from £750 to £3,000. I give credit for this to a member of the Opposition, Deputy John Bruton, who first introduced it in 1986. This section could have a dramatic impact in the years ahead. I understand that at present about 60,000 employees own shares in their own company. I regret that, when the Irish Sugar Company — Greencore — was being privatised, more employees did not participate. I am anxious that Aer Lingus not only will get State equity but that employees, who suffered the hardship of cutbacks in pay will find this section useful in that they could replace their losses with effective partial ownership of their own companies.

There are many other aspects of this Bill which as the effective leader of Dublin County Council I welcome especially the section relating to the extension of the urban general designated areas and the other urban renewal schemes in sections 24 and 29. These have particular relevance to our capital city in that there has been amazing activity in the last couple of years in refurbishing and redeveloping Dublin. At present various companies are building some 3,500 apartments which is the highest number being built in any major European city. Many of the Government initiatives culminating in these sections deserve the credit.

I welcome all the provisions of section 10 and a number of other measures which improve the chances of young enterpreneurs in starting up businesses. I particularly welcome the Minister's promises in regard to pension funds. I regret that less than 70 per cent of investment in Irish pension funds now goes into the Irish economy. I know the Minister is engaged in talks on this and I wish him success because clearly this huge amount of resource capital must be channelled in the direction of industry and agriculture.

In recent years there has been a lack of probity and patriotism among the elite of our financial community. I am disappointed that the Minister does not require the banking community, the Big Four in particular and perhaps the Irish Big Two, to make a greater contribution towards the development of Irish industry. Young business men and women are very often turned down by the banks when they come forward with ideas for new projects. The development of the banking industry has resulted in an effective cartel with massive control of funds and massive outflows of capital. The Big Two spent more time in the last few years developing interests in Maryland and New Hampshire in the United States than they did in this country. The Minister should set up a third force in banking. From my own contacts in Trustee Savings Bank, ACC and ICC, I think those companies are quite willing, as is An Post, to create the kind of effective capital base which would provide real competition to the banks, particularly in relation to the funding of industry.

A fundamental problem still remains in that we have not yet come to grips with the imbalance in taxation and its too narrow base, although sections 1 to 7 of the Bill will do a little this year to redress the balance. The Labour Party and Fianna Fáil can take the credit for implementing the tremendous new increases in social welfare this year. However, the effective marginal rate of taxation of 57 per cent is too high and is a general disincentive to our population to work harder and longer and to take the chance of engaging in enterprise. I ask the Minister for Finance to look at this problem in the months and years ahead and introduce the kind of legislation that will expand the base.

In recent weeks we read reports about the kind of returns and salaries which have been paid to executive and non-executive directors of some of these companies. Seen against the taxation paid by the vast bulk of PAYE taxpayers, the figures quoted in the press, tax benefits, golden handshakes and so on are a scandal. The Finance Bill must address the whole area of improving the administration of our financial community.

I would have welcomed a more radical Bill in the context of the imbalances in our taxation system. The fact that the Minister has once again raised a lot of money to balance our current budget is related to the fact that our rural cousins and many of the self-employed did not contribute enough to taxation which is regettable. However, in general I welcome the moves by the Minister for Finance this year to improve the financing of Irish industry.

Debate adjourned.
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