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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 28 Oct 1993

Vol. 435 No. 2

Adjournment Debate. - Local Authority Tenant Purchase Scheme.

This is a very important matter. Many elderly people and people of modest means, some of whom have been local authority tenants for over 40 years, have expressed grave concern at the fact that they will not be in a position to purchase their homes under the new tenant purchase scheme. They were allowed to do so under all previous schemes.

Many of these people could have purchased their homes under the millennium scheme in Dublin in 1988, but they decided not to do so. They have had to wait until now for another opportunity but find that they have been excluded for the first time. The local authorities are turning them down in large numbers. As I said, elderly people and people of modest means were not prevented under the provisions of any previous scheme from purchasing their own home. In the past if a local authority was of the view that a person would not be in a position to meet the repayments, which were modest, and if a son or daughter said that they would help their parents to purchase the house, the local authority allowed the deal to go ahead. However, that is no longer the case.

This is a tragedy. Many tenants have paid for their homes many times over. Some have been tenants for between 40 and 50 years. Indeed, some entered the houses in Crumlin, which are now almost 50 years old as brides and now find they cannot purchase their homes which represent their only potential asset to be passed on to their families. This is an indication that there is one law for most of us and another for the rest. Most people aspire to own their own home and for most of us it is the biggest single asset that we will pass on to our families. The current terms of the local authority sales scheme must be amended because large numbers of old people are excluded.

As a member of a local authority, I am fed up getting replies from HEOs who are expected to operate the system, but the politicians are aware of the effect this new scheme has had. I have no doubt that no one sat down to ensure that those who have been tenants for 40-50 years will not have the right to purchase, but as a result of these regulations many tenants will not be able to pass on their homes to their children.

It might be argued that there is a need for housing stock. If there is a need for housing stock we should build houses and not rob the widow who cannot afford to purchase her home. These people should not be denied their right to purchase.

I tabled a question for written reply, but it offered no hope. It was stated that any tenant who does not obtain a loan from a commercial lender may apply to the local authority and that it is a matter for the local authority in each case to decide if the applicant has the means to meet the loan repayments, but that is not what the local authorities are saying. They are saying that they are not allowed to do this under the scheme.

I will take to Dublin Corporation the reply that I received to the question I tabled for written reply yesterday and the reply I receive to this debate, because I want this matter to be brought to an end as it is grossly unjust and unfair. I hope that is what the Minister will do tonight.

In accordance with the commitment given in the Programme for a Partnership Government a new tenant purchase scheme was introduced on 6 July. The principal terms of the scheme are as follows: tenants of local authority houses and flats who have held a tenancy for at least one year may apply to purchase the dwellings in which they live. The purchase price of the dwelling is its market value in its present state of repair as determined by the local authority, excluding improvements carried out by the tenant. A discount of 3 per cent will be deducted from the market value of the house for each year of tenancy subject to a minimum discount of £3,000 and a maximum of 30 per cent. The purchase price will be payable at the point of sale.

The Deputy appears to be under a misapprehension when he states that elderly persons and others who would have qualified under previous schemes do not qualify under this one. I wish to make it clear that there is no blanket exclusion of the elderly or indeed of any other category of person.

In common with the 1986 and 1988 schemes, the scheme excludes dwellings which were specifically provided for and are occupied presently by elderly persons. It would be imprudent to sell dwellings which have been specially constructed or adapted for the elderly at additional cost and for which there is a continuing and growing demand.

I am not talking about those.

If they were to be sold, the integrated housing development for the elderly with which we are all familiar would eventually be broken up into general purpose housing. Indeed, the local authority of which the Deputy is a member has made a strong case for preventing persons other than elderly persons from buying the houses and I have refused that request from Dublin Corporation. I have made it quite clear to them that the only category excluded from purchase are elderly persons' houses occupied by elderly persons. To sell such houses would be counter to the efforts of local authorities to cater for the housing needs of elderly persons or those elderly whose only source of suitable and affordable accommodation is the dwellings in question. The scheme is, of course, open to the elderly who occupy normal local authority housing.

As in previous schemes, the administration of the 1993 tenant purchase scheme in their area is the responsibility of local authorities. Apart from the very limited exceptions, the scheme is designed to enable as many tenants as possible to apply to purchase their dwellings. The finance which will accrue from payment of the purchase price at point of sale will facilitate the construction of further local authority dwellings to meet the needs of persons on the waiting list. However, as in the case of previous purchase schemes, only those who can afford the repayments will be in a position to purchase. There is nothing new in that. Where necessary, mortgage loans may be obtained from either the local authority or a commercial mortgage lender. Any tenant who is not in a position to obtain a loan from a commercial lender may apply to the local authority, and it is a matter for the authority in each case to decide if the applicant is capable of meeting the loan repayments. I have no role in making that decision.

I would hope that all eligible tenants who wish to purchase and who are in a financial position to do so would be facilitated by speedy processing of their applications, whether for houses or flats, by the local authorities involved.

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