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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 24 Jan 1995

Vol. 447 No. 11

Adjournment Debate. - Drinking and Driving Legislation.

Thank you for the opportunity to raise this important matter on an appropriate day. I also congratulate the new Minister of State at the Department of the Environment, Deputy Bernard Allen, on his appointment. I am glad his hard work and ability is being so rewarded.

I am totally against drunken driving as, I am sure, are other Members of the House, including the former Minister for the Environment who introduced the legislation. In raising this issue I am not jumping on a bandwagon because 4,000 publicans have come to town. What I will say on the legislation and its effect on rural life is exactly what I said when the Bill was being considered: previously, it was by way of forecast, on this occasion it is stark reality so far as social life in rural areas is concerned.

There can be no disputing the effect fear of the new laws is having on rural public houses. Everywhere one hears the word "devastated". A 40 per cent loss of business seems to be the average. Irish pubs are unique. Pubs on the continent with which we seem to want to get in line are not pubs as we know them. Our pubs are meeting places in which to talk and argue. They are places of philosophy, craic and social intercourse, with drinking often being secondary. Irish pubs are a major tourist attraction and are sold abroad as such by Bord Fáilte. The rural pub is a nice warm meeting place where farmers come for a pint or two after a day's work. This is one of the few remaining social outlets for the rural population, all of which I regret are under threat. There is no point is saying, as many have said in the past, that car pools can be organised by the neighbours. This is not practical as the population is much too dispersed.

Thankfully, there was a substantial reduction in road accidents during the Christmas period, but I should point out, with the exception of 1993, there has been a gradual reduction each year since 1972. Who can say with any certainty that the reduction in road accidents this year was caused by the blood alcohol level being reduced from 100 milligram to 80 milligram? Who can say we would not have achieved the same or even a better result under the previous legislation had the Garda been given the necessary resources to have it vigorously enforced. So far I have not heard any convincing argument to indicate that the 100 milligram level, properly enforced with the same publicity, would not be as effective as the 80 milligram limit.

The most serious flaw in the drink driving legislation is the draconian mandatory sentence where a person who is slightly over the 80 milligram limit and not involved in an accident is criminalised, loses his or her driving licence and, perhaps as a result, his or her job. Is it any wonder the Garda representative body felt compelled to voice the objection of the Garda whose job it is to enforce the law?

Was this legislation discussed in a meaningful way by the entire Cabinet and, if so, I fear it was another day featuring those headless chickens, even with the leavening presence of our new colleagues in the Labour Party.

I call on the new Minister and new Minister of State to appraise the drink driving laws, especially the introduction of graded, graduated and discretionary penalties. At present, one can be tried and found guilty, in effect, by a garda on the side of the road and criminalised for marginal offences.

It is an outrageous and ridiculous excuse to advance as did the previous Minister, that graduated penalties would not work. Of course they would work and we must try harder in this respect. This is crude legislation. To amend it would not give the wrong message to drinkers. What we are talking about is not just a threat to the livelihood of the publicans and employment in public houses, even though that is very important; we are talking about something that has done enormous damage to the social life in rural Ireland. We need a change in the law and we need it quickly. We need above all proper enforcement of a fair law. That would bring about a much better result on the roads than an unfair law sporadically applied.

I thank Deputy Nealon for his kind comments which are much appreciated. The issue raised by the Deputy has been the subject of considerable debate in the national and local media. That debate has given rise to much speculation and I am pleased to take this opportunity to clarify some issues and to indicate to the House the action taken in recent weeks.

Prior to 2 December 1994, legislation governing drinking and driving was set out in the Road Traffic (Amendment) Act, 1978. Under that Act, the maximum permissible blood alcohol level for drivers of vehicles was 100 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of blood. A person found of exceeding the blood alcohol limit of 100 milligrammes was liable to the following penalties: mandatory disqualification from driving for a minimum of one year; a fine of up to a maximum of £1,000 and imprisonment up to a maximum of six months.

New road traffic legislation governing drinking and driving came into force on 2 December 1994. The amendments were introduced by the previous administration as a road safety measure and were part of a much wider road safety campaign which has been on-going since 1991. The new provisions reduced the blood alcohol limit from 100 milligrammes to 80 milligrammes; increased the mandatory disqualification period to two years; and introduced a new requirement to pass a driving test before the licence is returned.

The 1994 Act does, however, give some discretion to the court in this area. The court may apply a one year disqualification and may decide not to apply the driving test requirement where the court is satisfied that there are special reasons to justify such a course. The other penalties remain unchanged. The maximum fine is still £1,000 and the maximum term of imprisonment is still six months. Subject to those maxima, the level of any such penalty is entirely at the discretion of the court — I stress the word "discretion".

There has been a very significant reaction to the new measures and to the intensified Garda enforcement associated with the traditional Christmas road safety campaign. The reaction included vigorous demand for change, as we witnessed to day outside this House but there is an equally strong campaign seeking to ensure that the stringent measures are kept in place.

It is important to say clearly at this stage that the Government agrees with the essential thrust of the new measures; in particular the new blood alcohol level of 80 milligrammes. However, the Minister for the Environment has also made clear, since his appointment that he intended to monitor the impact of the new measures and that he wanted to hear at first hand the views of all interested parties. The Minister has now received written and oral submissions from a variety of groups representing a wide cross section of opinion. He intends to carefully consider all those submissions and will make an announcement about the matter generally as soon as possible.

The Dáil adjourned at 9.5 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 25 January 1995.

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