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Thursday, 23 Oct 1997

Vol. 482 No. 2

An Bord Glas Annual Report, 1996: Statements.

Under the Bord Glas Act, 1990, the board of An Bord Glas is required to produce an annual report and accounts. Briefly the 1996 report states that in the course of the year the board continued with the work of implementing its Development Plan 1994-99 "Achieving Growth in Horticulture". The report outlines the functions of the board and it contains a general review of the horticultural industry. It also details the activities undertaken by the board in 1996 in the various sectors of the industry such as field vegetables, soft fruit, top fruit, honey, mushrooms, other vegetable crops, ware and seed potatoes and the amenity sector. The report also deals with a number of other areas of activity such as promotion of horticultural products, the Horticultural Industry Forum, the environment and various miscellaneous matters.

While the report and accounts relate to the activities of 1996 I want to take this opportunity to look at the entire horticultural industry in the broader context of the Bord Glas Development Plan 1994-99. Before doing so, I would like to give some background to the setting up of An Bord Glas.

When Fianna Fáil was in Opposition in the 1980s, we produced a document entitled "A Policy for Horticultural Development" which provided for the establishment of An Bord Glas. On taking office as Minister for Horticulture in l987 my colleague Deputy Kirk set up An Bord Glas on an interim non-statutory basis. One of the first decisions of the interim board was that a very intensive and detailed examination of the horticultural industry was essential. As a result of that examination the interim board produced a document entitled "A Programme for the Development of Horticulture". Additionally, a separate programme on the seed potato industry was published. The two programmes taken together envisaged a market share recovery and export expansion of £60 million and the creation of 1,800 full-time and 1,500 part-time jobs over five years.

The horticultural industry performed well over these first development programmes. The actual increase in output realised was over £45 million or 75 per cent of the target. The aggregate export target was an increase of £28 million and the actual increase was £32 million. The employment targets were achieved but actual performance depended more on part-time employment than was envisaged — increases of 700 full-time and 6,100 part-time jobs. During the period of the programmes market share for many products directly competing with imports remained very high. There were improvements in the basic productive and commercial efficiency of horticulture with growing participation in the board's quality schemes and improvements in marketing and production structure. Retail distributors acknowledged a substantial improvement in the quality and presentation of Irish produce.

While An Bord Glas was established on a statutory basis under the Bord Glas Act, 1990, the board has effectively been in existence with a full complement of staff only since 1991. With a very small staff of 11 and modest budgets, ranging from £700,000 in 1991 to £1.634 million in 1996, An Bord Glas nevertheless has an impressive list of initiatives and achievements to its credit by any standards. For example, it put a new emphasis on quality and hygiene and effected improvements in these areas. Quality improvement schemes for a number of products and for garden centres were introduced. Systematic market assessments and examinations of Irish fruit and vegetable sales were undertaken and consumer information provided. Assistance was also provided for feasibility studies and a wide range of marketing and development projects. An innovative and successful scheme for growing potatoes from mini tubers was introduced. The board also initiated partnerships with producers in the form of the IFA potato marketing co-ordinator and the national horticultural organiser. These partnerships have been particularly beneficial to the horticultural industry and it is important they will continue as envisaged in the development plan. The board also increased the emphasis and focus on marketing and this resulted in a more market led approach by the industry.

Towards the end of 1994 the board published its development plan 1994-99 "Achieving Growth in Horticulture". This plan built on the success already achieved and intensified development activities in other areas. It introduced a number of initiatives in the areas of better market intelligence, co-ordination, linkage with the industry and support for improved marketing efforts and structure. The plan outlines the potential for the different products. It examines each sector in some considerable detail, it pinpoints the strengths and weaknesses and, most importantly, it clearly sets out targets and the actions required to achieve these targets over the period of the plan.

The plan envisaged that amenity horticulture was an area where the market would grow rapidly and where substantial increased output was possible on both the home and export markets. Mushrooms and soft fruit were identified as other areas which would provide increased output. The plan recognised that potatoes already had a very high domestic market share and per capita consumption is the highest in the EU. The plan also saw that seed potatoes had growth potential. It recognised, given the past record in the fresh vegetable sector, that it would be difficult to make progress. Nevertheless the board's main emphasis was on increasing domestic market share which stands at very high levels for principal vegetable lines. Finally, in the protected crops sector, notwithstanding the problems of energy cost and strong competition from imports, the aim of the plan was to increase domestic market share.

The plan also recognised that quality and hygiene were key features of modern industry and they were likely to become even more important. Accordingly, the plan envisaged the extension of the board's quality symbol and approval schemes to a comprehensive range of products to ensure the industry could continue to be competitive in these two essential areas. In addition the plan envisaged the board would continue and enhance its promotion of horticultural products with emphasis on the health and environmental aspects. Action was also envisaged on value added market opportunities, improving links with all sectors of the industry and on improved market and marketing structures.

The plan recognised the development and marketing of horticultural produce is consistent with and supports efforts to improve the environment. There is little direct conflict in horticulture between production and the environment. Amenity product production and consumption, for example, directly enhance the visual environment. The production of most primary horticultural food products is done in an environmentally friendly way. The board ensures, therefore, that its marketing and development efforts continue to support the environment.

As Deputies are aware, the significant health benefits which arise from increased vegetable and fruit consumption are being increasingly recognised. In addition to positive environmental impact, increased horticultural consumption will be associated with the enhancement of the general health level. The gains to society from improved marketing and consumption of horticultural produce, therefore, extends beyond the direct economic benefits. An Bord Glas has promoted a wide range of horticultural products to the consumer in recent years, including, for example, potatoes, tomatoes, apples and soft fruit. In 1996, the board implemented a multi-sectoral promotions plan which provided for a comprehensive series of actions to ensure co-ordinated and balanced promotional activities in all the key market sectors. I will return to this subject later.

The development plan envisaged an increase in output of more than £56 million, an increase of 33 per cent on the 1992 figures. On the assumption the target is achieved, the board envisaged that employment would increase in amenity horticulture, vegetables and mushrooms. Horticulture is labour intensive, as Deputies are aware, and this is significant in the context of employment. Horticulture represents only 5 per cent of gross agricultural output, yet it accounts for 14 per cent of the agricultural labour force.

I want now to let Deputies have some further indications of areas in the development plan where progress has been made. The board has placed great emphasis on hygiene and quality. Quality programmes have been developed specifically for the needs of the horticultural industry. In addition, a comprehensive range of quality manuals have established appropriate codes based on EU and national legislation as well as best practice for the management of horticultural products from the growing environment to the end user.

The quality programmes currently target primary producers and wholesalers and pre-packers to present the highest quality product for sale to the retailer or processor of horticultural products. Participants are required to develop and operate quality control and traceability systems as an integral part of the quality programmes. All quality audits of participating enterprises are undertaken by an independent quality auditor and participants who achieve An Bord Glas standards are awarded quality and hygiene awards or certificates as appropriate.

Market intelligence is another area of crucial importance and the board engages in the collection and dissemination of data on wholesale market prices, horticultural production, retail consumer expenditure, sectoral market research and information on EU trade and trends.

I referred earlier to the question of promotion. These activities are undertaken by An Bord Glas by promoting the concepts of healthy eating and living, quality produce and the enhancement of the environment. Promotions target the benefits of greater fruit, vegetable and potato consumption for a healthier lifestyle and the contribution plants and flowers make to our .environment and lifestyle. Medical research worldwide has confirmed evidence that vitamin E, which occurs in many vegetable and fruit oils, dramatically reduces the risk of heart disease. In addition, increased consumption of fruit and vegetables in the daily diet can help in the prevention of certain forms of cancer.

Promotion is conducted on a generic basis utilising a wide variety of promotional media. As Deputies will have seen from the 1996 annual report of An Bord Glas, it published and implemented a promotions plan which had a multi-sectoral approach to consumer communications spanning six key market areas for fruit and vegetables while the amenity products covered three areas. Specifically the areas covered in the fruit and vegetable sector were consumers, retailers, catering, medical, schools and colleges and community groups, while the amenity products covered consumers, retailers and specifiers. A wide range of organisations were consulted and collaborated in the implementation of various promotional projects under this programme. In addition, a wide range of media advertising projects was undertaken. An Bord Glas also participated in and supported a number of shows and exhibitions as well as producing and distributing a wide variety of promotional literature. Demand for literature increased substantially as promotional work progressed during the year. Promotional activities are continuing in 1997 and will be further continued in 1998. The promotional activities provide a co-ordinated and integrated approach to the promotion of horticultural produce on the domestic market. In general, the intention in 1998 is to base the promotion on an overall unifying theme which will take account of the needs of various sub-sectors. The promotion plans will be devised and implemented in close consultation with retailers, producers and relevant An Bord Glas personnel.

Under the 1990 Act An Bord Glas also has a strong development function which it implements by co-ordinating the total development effort in conjunction with other relevant State agencies. It directs resources into the areas where they are required to realise the potential in the various product sectors. It liaises with interested groups to ensure a fully integrated approach to promoting growth within the industry and encourages development on an individual business level through assistance for feasibility studies, the operation of business development programmes and other related measures.

I will now speak specifically about some of the product sector areas. In the case of mushrooms, the aim under the development plan was to increase output from £51 million to £71 million and to actively encourage the continued orderly development of the industry in line with State policy and developments in the marketplace. The value of the mushroom industry at the end of 1996 was almost £73 million, so the target of An Bord Glas for the sector has been achieved.

An Bord Glas has carried out a wide range of activities in this sector, including market research in the UK and continental markets, promotional activity, the organisation of the national auditing and hygiene awards, organising demonstration farm sites and business management training programmes, an in-depth review of the industry in conjunction with other State agencies and the promoting of spent mushroom compost projects.

Since the start of the development plan the mushroom sector has performed very well overall. Initially there were difficulties with sterling, increasing costs and reducing margins coupled with a more competitive market. However, 1996 was a satisfactory year. Demand from the UK market was strong and developments in exchange rates favoured trade. The wholesale market maintained a reasonably good demand and supply balance during the year and average returns were up.

Challenges facing the sector include market developments, environment pressures and recruitment. The industry will have to ensure that the adoption of new technology, which will lead to an increase in total production, is balanced with the potential of the markets to absorb extra production.

There are at least six key issues facing this important industry: the continued orderly development of production and marketing in order to prevent fragmentation of the sector; potential future growth of market sectors, for example, multiple markets, and other market sectors, including exports; technological developments at home and abroad, for example, phase 3 compost, indoor composting, alternative growing systems, picking aids etc., which will impact on production levels and viability; environmental issues, including waste disposal; training and recruitment; and the impact of the single currency.

In the case of other vegetable crops, for example, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers etc., an increase of £2.6 million in output value was aimed at under the development plan. It is expected that in this sector domestic per capita consumption of the main products will reach the level of the European average. The picture in this sector, however, is not as positive as that in the mushroom sector. Returns to the glasshouse sector are unpredictable and variable and influenced by many factors. Tomato output will have the biggest influence on the Bord Glas target for this sector because it is by far the most important crop in value terms. Unfortunately, since the launch of the development plan the total acreage of protected crops has fallen. While a small acreage of new glass has been erected, this has not been enough to replace the loss which resulted from high energy costs and EU expansion.

Nineteen ninety-five was a disastrous year for tomatoes due to gluts in the EU market which resulted in very low prices to producers and a consequential dramatic drop in the output value of tomatoes by £2.8 million. In 1996 there was a much improved situation which led to a significant increase in the output figure compared with 1995, making an important contribution to the target of An Bord Glas. Cucumber and pepper production is small and it is not likely that we will see any significant increase in the production of these crops. Total lettuce production has decreased in recent years, and the flat lettuce market has been affected by the demand for iceberg lettuce.

The cost of energy and low prices driven by developments within the EU continue to cause problems. The key issues facing the sector are: new developments within the marketplace and a move toward direct purchasing and centralised distribution; opportunities for grower groups to have closer liaison with fresh produce buyers, negotiate better returns and improve co-ordination; developments in other producing countries; high costs of reinvesting in and developing production units; high cost of energy; the need for specialist labour skills.

An Bord Glas has been taking and will continue to take a range of actions to achieve the targets set for this sector. Group marketing has been actively encouraged and assisted. An important aid to this sector is the operation of the An Bord Glas Tomato Quality Mark which was introduced in 1992 and continued in 1996 and 1997. This scheme is used to assist producers raise quality standards, inform them of relevant legislation, promote quality produce in the marketplace and help them in obtaining better returns. Promotion of tomatoes was carried out and will continue to be carried out to highlight quality and increase consumption.

An Bord Glas played a major role in having the business expansion scheme extended to the glasshouse sector and prepared a guide to widely promote the scheme as a vehicle with which to raise funds for investment in the industry.

I now turn to field vegetables. The objective in the development plan was to increase domestic output from £26 million to £32 million by 1999 — an increase of £6 million. This target has been exceeded with output reaching £35 million by the end of 1996. The main emphasis within the sector will be on maintaining and increasing domestic market share which stands at 70 per cent to 75 per cent for principal vegetable lines. Vegetable trade with the United Kingdom is expected to reach £4.5 million by 1999. While the overall value of the sector has increased, rising input costs combined with lower producer margins and the availability of cheap imports are putting severe pressure on producers and leading to some growers leaving the sector.

With almost 60 per cent of the retail market controlled by multiples which are introducing central distribution and supplier rationalisation strategies, there is an immediate requirement for smaller producers to work in a more co-operative and focused manner. In terms of market demand, there is a growing requirement for exotic prepacked and prepared vegetables. There is significant market potential in the domestic, retail, multiples and food services sector.

An important element of the work of An Bord Glas in this sector is the market co-ordination programme which was introduced in 1995 and continued to operate in 1996 and 1997. The benefits of this programme have been acknowledged by producers, wholesalers and retailers. The Horticulture Industry Forum which was established towards the end of 1995 by my predecessor, Deputy Deenihan, also plays a crucial role in this sector as it does for the horticulture industry as a whole. The forum was established to encourage greater co-ordination, co-operation and communication within the horticulture industry with particular emphasis on closer links between those in the industry comprising the supply chain. It is also designed to create closer and more dynamic links between the statutory bodies, such as An Bord Glas and Teagasc, my Department and the various sectors of the industry, such as growers, wholesalers, retailers and their representatives.

The key issues facing this sector are: to encourage and facilitate increased co-ordination among field vegetable producers; to support producers in adapting to the trend towards centralised distribution among multiple retailers; to continue to improve quality standards at producer and prepacker level; to improve the flow of market information to producers; to address the issue of labour availability; to keep abreast of technological developments, i.e. new production methods; to monitor and encourage the uptake of the new EU producer group scheme.

The output of soft fruit has exceeded the target increase of £2.5 million set down in the development plan. Valued at £6 million in 1992, the soft fruit sector had increased its value to £9.07 million by 1996. Strawberries continue to be the dominant product, accounting for an estimated two thirds of production.

The market for minor fruit, such as tayberries, blueberries and loganberries, is expected to increase while there is also scope for increasing fruit production for processing. Export markets, particularly for strawberries, are being developed and further potential exists. The erratic and severe weather conditions during 1997 caused serious problems for soft fruit production in terms of reduced yield output and low quality standards.

The processing sector accounts for 28 per cent of the soft fruit industry. Ireland is the only country in the European Union producing Cambridge Favourite type strawberries. This gives us a strong competitive advantage in terms of selling to processors in Ireland and the United Kingdom. Despite the market potential, the level of acreage is declining. To combat this decline, An Bord Glas, in consultation with Teagasc, producer representatives and the processing industry, has introduced a scheme to improve quality in the sector and encourage increased production of strawberries for processing. This scheme is part of a long-term strategy designed to guarantee the survival of the strawberry processing industry by achieving better quality, higher yields and output, and encouraging the maintenance of a critical mass and economies of scale among growers. The scheme will also act as a strong marketing tool in promoting Irish strawberries to processors operating in the Irish market. An Bord Glas has had ongoing liaison with groups operating in this sector and encouraged and assisted group marketing projects.

The key issues in this area are: to maintain and increase, where appropriate, the acreage and number of growers to ensure the viability of the soft fruit industry, both fresh and processing; to increase quality and hygiene standards at production level; to promote and assist the establishment of producer groups and further develop existing groups; to provide producers with up to date market information. Other key issues include exchange rates, exports, developments in the European Union, technology and labour productivity.

In the top fruit sector growth has exceeded the modest target set in the development plan. Output value increased from £2.17 million in 1992 to £3.63 million in January 1997. Irish apple producers hold an estimated 14 per cent share of the domestic market. During 1997 domestic output and the quality of domestic produce was severely hampered by frost during the spring growth season. With the changing retail structure to centralised distribution and supply rationalisation, it is vital that apple producers are more co-ordinated in targeting the retail market. An Bord Glas has assisted producers with promotion in this area to maintain and increase market share.

Among the key issues are: to encourage increased co-operation among producers to increase economies of scale; to provide strategic direction to producers in terms of identifying and targeting retail customers; to provide marketing and promotional support to producers; and to assess market potential for new apple varieties. Other key issues include recruitment and developments in the EU market.

The ware potato sector has been under severe market pressures in recent years with a combination of poor pricing and increasing customer standards. Significant investments have taken place in the potato sector since the mid-1980's under the FEOGA and OPARDF grants schemes. However, some businesses which have invested heavily are under financial pressure due to poor markets.

Potato production increased by approximately 10 per cent during the period 1992-6 leading to an oversupplied market in 1996. Preliminary estimates project 1997 production to be reduced by between 5 per cent and 10 per cent. These changes are expected to lead to more balanced supply and demand. There are also structural changes which concentrate an increasing percentage of production in the hands of larger producers while smaller producers are moving out of production.

The An Bord Glas development plan target was to increase output by £3 million. The 1992 output was valued at £51.1 million. The assessment of the achievement of this target is complicated by annual price and yield variations. The 1996 output was estimated at £57 million. While there has been modest growth in production since 1992, sustainability of this growth will be difficult to maintain unless there is ongoing growth in export markets and-or the development of new value added and processed products in the domestic market. I understand there may be developments in the chip potato sector.

An Bord Glas introduced new quality awards for potato pre-packers in 1996. The awards were an important step forward for the potato sector as they highlighted a strong commitment to promoting quality and hygiene within the sector. The An Bord Glas awards are assessed on the basis of the quality manual for potatoes which outlines a code of practice for handling, storage and marketing. This manual forms the checklist against which participating companies in the An Bord Glas quality and hygiene programme are audited by an independent quality consultant. The companies receive feedback on areas where improvements are needed in their systems, operations and facilities and this has been an effective mechanism for putting new standards in place. The key issues in this sector are to promote value added initiatives for potatoes and monitor fresh market consumer trends; to support and promote enterprises supplying the catering trade; to support new processing initiatives; to monitor and encourage export opportunities for fresh potatoes; to expand the quality programme which An Bord Glas operates for potatoes; to promote the quality programme to major retailers and to improve the timeliness of production and market intelligence in conjunction with my Department and Teagasc.

The seed potato industry has undergone many significant developments in recent years. However, its competitiveness remains a continuing cause for concern. Against this background An Bord Glas undertook a strategic review of the industry in 1997 with a view to developing new policy initiatives. This review is being finalised and will set the agenda for State agencies and the seed potato industry for the coming years. The development plan target for seed potatoes is to increase output by £2 million. The 1992 output was valued at £4.7 million.

I am aware that my time is exhausted. However, I have much more to say on this issue and I would be grateful if I might use some of my colleagues' time.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

Certified seed production has increased in recent years. Among the key issues subject to review are measures to co-ordinate and monitor the promotion and implementation of the seed potato review recommendations with State agencies and the industry; measures to promote and assist the development of increased group co-ordination of seed potato producers and merchants; ongoing monitoring of the An Bord Glas minituber scheme and the development of a seed potato export strategy in association with key exporters.

The output of the nursery stock sector was valued at £12 million in 1992 and this has increased to almost £20 million at the end of 1996. The target in the development plan was an increase of £14 million, and over 50 per cent of the target has been achieved. This sector of the business has continued to experience significant growth in recent times. There has been a 64 per cent increase in turnover since 1992. The main domestic markets, namely, home retail, wholesale, local authorities and services, are performing well. Domestic consumer market penetration continues to rise and is now at 67 per cent, although it will be important to categorise the remaining 33 per cent in order to take a strategic standpoint on domestic market expansion. Coupled with this is the fact that we have one of the lowest spends per capita in Europe, indicating further potential, although it is imperative that this obvious market potential is balanced with appropriate development of our production base. As production capacity increases, the industry will be forced to take a more proactive, co-ordinated approach to developing export markets. Exports are worth about £3 million at present.

An Bord Glas supported initiatives to address the imbalance with regard to VAT in the hardy nursery stock sector. The results were the reduction of VAT in the last budget from 21 per cent to 12.5 per cent and the introduction of registration for VAT liability on sales of produce in excess of £40,000 annually. These measures provide a balanced package for this sector of the industry by removing or reducing significantly certain tax based distortions of competition in the garden centre market. Also in this sector An Bord Glas has highlighted the importance of a co-ordinated and planned approach for landscaping on a national level and took steps to encourage the advanced incorporation of detailed landscape design and specifications in the planning of road projects by bringing together local authorities to assist the hardy nursery industry to respond to market requirements.

The key issues facing this sector are to ensure that production capacity keeps in step with increasing consumer demand; the obvious deficiency in business and management skills in some areas, which imbalance needs to be addressed; the generation of more pertinent market information which will allow An Bord Glas to address issues such as import substitution, market trends, perceived value, etc.; formal and pragmatic market entry strategies for export markets need to be adopted; at a retail level, the importance of quality and relevant promotion will increase in significance as the sector competes more directly with the leisure and gift market.

Ireland has the lowest spend per capita in the EU on live plants and floricultural products. The board recognised that this issue needed to be addressed by way of generic promotion and this has been and is being done. In this regard the recent provision of EU funding for promotion should be of considerable benefit not only to the hardy nursery stock sector but to the amenity sector as a whole.

The protected flowers, pot plants and cut foliage sector of the amenity market has seen continued consumer growth over the last 12 months, with total value of sales increasing by some 9 per cent. This figure can be explained by an increase in the number of households buying rather than an increase in spend per household which remained virtually flat and which, in European terms, is very low. One of the fundamental characteristics of this sector is the small production base. As a result, much attention is focused on identifying market niches where Ireland can compete in terms of delivery, unique products or as a supplement to imported products.

Two notable exceptions are the bedding plant industry which is now worth in excess of £4 million a year and the cut foliage industry which is developing significant export markets. The key issues facing this sector are the erosion of the Irish production base in more open trading conditions and the effects of this on the dynamics of the supply chain and Irish producers' ability to meet customers' demands; market entry or expansion of existing enterprises which requires significant capital investment; the fragmented nature of the sector emphasises the need to identify and invest in profitable market niches such as cut foliage.

I wish to refer briefly to the Christmas tree industry. At production level the Irish Christmas tree industry has experienced rapid growth. It has been estimated that about 1,500 hectares of Christmas trees have been established in Ireland, representing a total investment of over £50 million. About 75 per cent of this production is owned by five major groups and the remainder by an estimated 150 growers. Best estimates of current output indicate a home market of 350,000 units and an export market of 100,000 units. This represents a gross market value of £6.75 million and export earnings of £1.5 million. The key issues facing this sector are the following: while some companies have investigated the European markets extensively there is a need for more research; more transparent co-operation is required; and generic promotion on the domestic market is required as a proactive defensive mechanism against artificial trees.

The annual report indicates that the horticultural industry performed well overall in 1996 with output, excluding potatoes, increasing to over £166 million compared to £141 million in 1995. The mushroom, soft fruit and amenity sectors had good performances. The tomato sector had a satisfactory season following a poor one in 1995, while areas such as field vegetables and potatoes had a difficult year. It will also be seen from the report that the board undertook a wide variety of projects and initiatives aimed directly at promoting, developing and assisting the horticultural industry and with a view to achieving the growth targets in its development plan. If one looks at some of the specific products in the plan it will be seen that already the mushroom, field vegetables, ware potatoes, fruit, protected flowers, pot plants, outdoor flowers and bulbs have all exceeded the targets in the plan and the nursery stock and Christmas tree sectors are set to reach their targets. The overall target increase of £56 million was within £6 million of being achieved by the end of 1996, less than half way through the period of the plan.

While the overall value of the field vegetables sector has increased there are factors putting severe pressure on producers. Similarly, there are difficult and intractable problems to overcome in the seed potato sector while the protected crops area continues to face major difficulties and challenges. However, both my Department and An Bord Glas will continue to take whatever steps we can within the constraints of the funding available and EU rules to ensure these important sectors will be promoted and developed to the maximum extent.

I thank the chairman of An Bord Glas and members of the board for their dedication to their work. I compliment my predecessor, Deputy Deenihan, on the work he did in this area when he was Minister of State. Finally, I thank the House for giving me extra time to complete my statement.

Mr. Coveney

I thank the Minister of State for his comprehensive statement and I wish him success with his appointment, particularly in this area which is an important sector for those involved.

The annual report is an excellent production. It not only looks well but, for somebody such as I who must familiarise myself with the subject reasonably quickly, it is also highly readable. The report contains essential information with little padding so it was a pleasure to read.

The development plan, which is central to the work of An Bord Glas and those whom it seeks to encourage, is a seminal document in the horticulture sector. It appeared ambitious when it was first produced but the targets it set for the 1996-1999 period have already been substantially met although we are only half way through the programme. The overall target was to increase output by £56 million and the figure of £50 million has already been achieved. That is a source of great satisfaction to everybody involved. Having achieved so much in such a short time, it behoves An Bord Glas to increase its targets rather than being tempted into complacency. Clearly there is more potential in some sectors. I congratulate the growers, the board and its staff on the success of the plan so far. They have worked hard to achieve their targets and I hope their progress continues.

I wish to discuss the role of An Bord Glas. What does it do and how well does it do it? What does the board cost and is it value for money for the taxpayer? Does it justify its continued existence? There is a view in some quarters that all promotion work associated with our food production ought to be the responsibility of An Bord Bia. That is an attractive option when one takes a cursory broad look at the food production industry. However, horticulture is an unusual business in that it is comprised of many relatively small elements which require a focused approach rather than being included within a huge organisation such as An Bord Bia which deals with vast quantities of produce.

An Bord Glas defines its role as improving all aspects of horticulture by developing, promoting, co-ordinating and assisting the production, marketing and consumption of horticultural produce. It is difficult to see how a huge organisation dealing with vast quantities of products could give that type of focus to an industry that is scattered and produces many different products in relatively small quantities. The board's objectives are correct and the report on the development plan's progress to date appears to suggest it is achieving its objectives. In addition, the board is not substituting or duplicating the work of other State agencies, a possibility of which we must beware.

An attractive feature of the board is the fact that it focuses on the industry from the point of view of the marketplace. That is a trend which our agriculture industry must face in the future. Many of the proposals put forward by Commissioner Santer and others are designed to reorientate agriculture to face the full blast of market forces. However, that is a debate for another day because undoubtedly we will oppose many proposals which we believe will not be good for Irish agriculture. Nonetheless, the international trend in all business is to orientate production to the marketplace rather than to the producer. It is heartening, therefore, to learn from the report that this is one of the objectives of the board's activities.

The horticulture sector does not enjoy many of the supports which other industries and other sectors of agriculture enjoy. There is no area aid from the EU. No premiums are paid by the EU and there is no compensation for green pound devaluations. There are no disadvantaged area payments. In short, none of the supports we have negotiated for other sectors of agriculture is generally available to the horticulture sector. It is, therefore, exposed to market pressures and intense competition. An Bord Glas is a small operation and I am heartened to see it concentrate so heavily on the marketplace. That emphasis can only be good although it can often be painful.

The annual accounts of An Bord Glas show that the board, more than many other semi-State companies, is run on a virtual shoestring and appears to provide good value for money. In 1996 its total grant-in-aid was just over £1.5 million. I am slow ever to suggest we should spend more taxpayers' money but given the importance of the marketing, promotional, quality auditing and other activities undertaken by the board to make our horticulture industry more efficient and userfriendly, a modest increase in the 1998 Estimates would be justified and warranted. The increase is not being sought to expand the staff numbers in An Bord Glas but to help at the coal face of promotion and quality incentives. Given that the industry is currently worth in excess of £220 million, about 1 per cent of that — some £2.2 million to £2.5 million — would be modest expenditure by the State on this important work. I hope the Minister and Minister of State will make a case to the Minister for Finance for small additional expenditure on An Bord Glas's promotional and quality assurance activities.

As the Minister said, the employment content is high; horticulture is labour intensive relative to agriculture generally. It is environmentally friendly and the full-time and part-time employment figures demonstrate the industry's ability to create jobs. As to the cost, the industry undoubtedly provides value for money, so a slight increase in money for the purposes mentioned should be forthcoming in 1998.

The agriculture section of the Government programme and the Fianna Fáil manifesto make no mention of either horticulture or An Bord Glas. I accept it was a Fianna Fáil Government which brought the board into existence and I know the Minister of State is interested in the area but it is disappointing that no reference was made to it in either the manifestos or the programme for Government. That may have no significance but I make the point in any case.

There is great potential in highlighting the health benefits of vegetables. People are now more concerned about their diet and health. I have seven children and the most difficult thing to convince them to do is to eat vegetables — that may be unique to our family but we also live in the country. It would be worthwhile if An Bord Glas undertook promotional activities in the schools, pointing out the healthy qualities of vegetables. In this world of junk food there is much consumption of foods which are not especially healthy and a relatively small consumption by young people and children of vegetables and fruit, which are regarded as secondary to chocolate and sweets. It would be good for the health of the nation and this industry, and for a host of other reasons, if the Department of Health and Children and An Bord Glas put across to young people the value of eating vegetables for their future health. However, An Bord Glas only has a limited budget in this respect.

The horticulture industry may be relatively small but its total output in 1996 was in excess of £220 million, its employment content is high and its expansion has been well in excess of planned growth. It is a considerable industry.

I forgot to say that I wish to share five minutes of my time with Deputy Yates.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

Mr. Coveney

The Minister referred to a number of individual sectors. It is clear from the report that 1996 was a topsy-turvy year for field vegetables. The two halves of the year were totally different. In the first half supply was severely limited in an open marketplace, which gave rise to satisfactory price increases, but the difficulties experienced by growers meant they were not able to benefit from this — they did not have enough produce. The second half saw overproduction, good quality produce and bad prices. The last six months were difficult and it is hard to see what An Bord Glas or anyone else can do in such a case, although valiant efforts were made to match supply to demand.

The value of the field vegetable sector nonetheless increased in 1996 from £30 million to £35 million. However, the import figures are worrying, because they were almost as high as domestic output. I do not propose the simplistic solution that we should not import vegetables. That is clearly nonsense because we cannot produce all our own vegetables, for reasons of seasonality apart from anything else, so we will always have to import vegetables at some times of the year. Nonetheless, the trade balance is not satisfactory — we export virtually no field vegetables and import half our requirements. We must work hard to strike a better balance because we import large amounts of carrots, cauliflower, broccoli, lettuces, onions, etc. Some of this is due to seasonality but we must produce more of our own field vegetables and import less.

An Bord Glas makes a significant contribution to the promotion of quality and hygiene. It is a feature of all aspects of the sector that the board is continually prodding and encouraging growers and the message must be continually driven home that growers must recognise the importance of the consumer, the demand for higher quality and that great buzz word "traceability" which is becoming such a feature of consumer requirements. The board has assisted companies in this area and has advised them on obtaining accreditation from ISO 9000, etc. Those quality marks are part of the drive for market share and I congratulate everyone associated with that effort, which I hope will be maintained.

Another interesting development, which was made clear from talking to people in An Bord Glas and reading the report, is that it is possible to try to balance supply with demand. By keeping informed about weekly occurrences at the producer end, it will be possible to anticipate market requirements and growers' ability to fulfil them. For example buyers should be told who will have a large quantity of carrots next week rather than allow them be tempted to take the easy option of importation.

I have questioned whether all of this might better be undertaken by a larger organisation but a large organisation concentrating on a multitude of issues cannot be expected to get down to that level of detail. One of the features of An Bord Glas I like most is that the board deals with that kind of detail which will become more rather than less important in the future. We now have a huge multinational supermarket chain, Tesco which along with Marks and Spencer, whose standards are very high, have their sources of supply in the United Kingdom. It entails a great deal of effort on our part to convince them they can obtain an equally acceptable or better source of supply here.

An Bord Glas has its representatives actively in the marketplace meeting the representatives of Tesco and other multi-national companies convincing them of the importance for us that they purchase and source their materials here, but they are very demanding customers whose general trend is to cut out wholesalers and go direct to producers. In the United Kingdom, where they have been engaging in that practice for some years, there are very large producers which means these large chains can get exactly what they want, in the volumes they want when they want them. That is a tremendous challenge to us. These big supermarket chains like Tesco like to be able to obtain what they want, when they want it at a price they deem appropriate. We must orientate ourselves to the direct challenge presented by their going direct to our producers. Our producers may need to get together in groups to meet that challenge. I congratulate An Bord Glas on efforts made to date, which are so important to the future of our food industry.

The Minister spoke about the soft fruits business, more than half of which comprises strawberries. The business appears to have had a reasonably satisfactory year. One of the great success stories of our horticultural industry is mushroom production. We are the largest suppliers to the United Kingdom market having produced some 54,000 tonnes in 1996 of which we consume only a tiny proportion. In relative terms this is a huge exports success story I would like to highlight. Its success was not built on chance but on planning with excellent producers. While its future is not assured, an excellent foundation has been laid for its development. It is a large market right on our doorstep which we are satisfying better than any other suppliers. We must bear in mind that there are others, such as the Dutch anxious to get into that marketplace so it behoves us to do everything in our power to retain and expand on that already high quality market we have penetrated successfully to date. I have noted what An Bord Glas is doing to maintain a focus on that important endeavour.

The tomato industry having experienced a very difficult year in 1995 had a much better return last year. Nonetheless it is a difficult business for reasons of scale, of huge competition, of relative dumping from the Canary Islands and elsewhere in the back-end of the season. There is something we could do here though it raises difficult precedents for other users of energy. We could endeavour to obtain some advantage in energy prices from An Bord Gáis. While noting a rather bland statement that discussions were held with producers and An Bord Gáis in relation to energy costs, as far as I am aware nothing happened in that respect during the tenure of the previous Government or of this one to date. If the Minister was able to make a special case for that it would be of significant benefit to tomato growers. While we are not in an era of making special appeals to industry for something which is a natural resource, because of the small quantities involved and its effects, a case could well be made for it.

Potato production is another difficult business. The year 1995 was disastrous and it had a smaller knock-on effect in 1996. In relation to legislation on below-cost selling, potatoes are treated in the same way as perishable fruits and so on which are excluded from below-cost selling. The issue of bringing potatoes within the below-cost selling legislation arose in the course of the year. Since potatoes are not perishable in the same sense as strawberries or soft fruits, it would be reasonable and fair and a worthwhile exercise on the part of the Government. Perhaps the Minister would make that case also.

We have a very negative trade balance in seed potatoes. We import more than we export. We should try to rectify that. I think An Bord Glas is active in that area but I would urge it to be more so.

The 1996 Annual Report of An Bord Glas indicates satisfactory progress in achieving what were ambitious targets in the development plan. The board has a tough job, as horticulture is very exposed to competitive forces which will be its strength in the long run. In the meantime, however, many challenges must be faced. I urge the Minister to continue to face them and he will have our full support.

I thank Deputy Coveney for allowing me two minutes. As former Minister for Agriculture, Food and Forestry it is certainly not my intention to trespass on current activities or on our party spokesperson dealing with national issues. Nonetheless I express my appreciation for the support An Bord Glas has given to the Enniscorthy Strawberry Fair in County Wexford. An Bord Glas is its main sponsor having tied itself into a three year deal. I express my appreciation to the present Chairman and board and Mr. Brendan O'Donnell, its chief executive, all of whom have been very involved in sponsoring grower awards. This fair is the shop window and platform for the county festival, in the largest soft fruit growing area in the country, which is not only a huge boost to tourism but has done much to promote sales of high quality Wexford-grown strawberries.

It would be remiss of me, as former Minister and a Deputy for this area not to express my deep appreciation. Indeed I was requested by all involved in County Wexford to do so today. I hope the Minister of State will convey my thanks. I hope this level of sponsorship of this group which, in overall terms is modest, will continue under this Government.

Tá áthas orm seans a bheith agam labhairt sa díospóireacht tábhachtacht seo. Treaslaím le cathaoirleach An Bord Glas, an bord agus le daoine atá ag obair don bhórd as ucht an tuairisc bliantúil seo a chur ós ár gcomhair. Tá sé leagaithe amach go maith. Tá sé so-léite agus tá sé furasta teacht ar nós eolas ann.

I have more than a passing interest in this subject because when the Development Plan 1994-99 was launched, I was Minister of State with responsibility for food and horticulture in the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry and I was very involved with the plan at that time. I wish the Minister of State, Deputy Davern, well in this regard. My contact with the board at that time was valuable because it was doing a good job in terms of putting our industry in a modern context.

Ironically, when I left the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry shortly after the development plan was published, I became Minister of State at the Department of Health with responsibility for health promotion. Part of health promotion is healthy eating and my contacts with An Bord Glas continued after I left the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry. During my first year in the Department of Health the theme for Healthy Eating Week was "Eat More Bread, Cereals and Potatoes". The theme this year was "Eat More Fruit and Vegetables".

I listened with interest to Deputy Coveney when he talked about the problem of getting children to eat vegetables. The Health Promotion Unit of the Department of Health published a leaflet containing 12 tips on fibre in the diet, one of which states: "Offer raw vegetables to children, especially when preparing vegetables for dinner". That tip may be useful in persuading children to eat raw vegetables.

Fibre is an important part of diet. It swells inside the body when water is added to it. It is important, therefore, to drink plenty of water when eating a high fibre diet. Fibre helps us to dispose of food wastes in our bodies. It is fundamental to a healthy diet to eat at least four helpings of fruit and vegetables per day. Unfortunately, we have not reached that level in Ireland. We should be clear when we talk about portions. A portion can be a glass of orange juice, a portion of vegetables, an apple or a banana. As a nation we are not eating enough fruit and vegetables to maintain a healthy diet.

Health promotion is about the individual taking responsibility for his or her own well-being thereby reducing the need in the long-term for hospital care. It is about promoting health and preventing disease. An Bord Glas has played a major part in getting across the message about the need to eat more fruit and vegetables, as has the Health Promotion Unit of the Department of Health. We must continue to work at getting that message across because the national average intake of fibre must be increased to at least four helpings per day.

Reading the report I was somewhat disappointed with the figures for seed potatoes and the decrease in our imports between 1995 and 1996. When I became Minister of State at the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry I was surprised and disappointed at the level of imports of basic varieties of seed potatoes such as British Queens, Kerr Pinks, Golden Wonders and so on. During my time in office I tried to make some progress in this area. I realise structural difficulties exist in the industry but with our climatic advantages and the fact that there are markets to be serviced, this is an area on which the Minister of State and the board must focus because the £2 million growth figure, and more, is achievable.

Before I left the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry I introduced Statutory Instruments in relation to the rotation of the potato crop. They were necessary to prevent the spread of eelworm which can be devastating when it gets into soil. As part of that general environmental agenda, to which all parties in this House subscribe, keeping our soil in optimum condition is vitally important to the success of our horticultural industry, the growth of output here and the subsequent increase in jobs.

Another area to which the horticultural industry lends itself is the employment of people with disabilities, intellectual or physical. I am not talking about people with disabilities being hired as a form of charity; that is not the answer. People should be employed as of right, disabled or otherwise, and people with disabilities would be productive in whatever operation they are employed. They would earn their pay but in doing so they would be making a worthwhile contribution to the enterprise in which they work. I ask the Minister of State, Deputy Davern, to ensure consideration is given to this proposal. I know from previous incarnations that he has a strong personal commitment in this area and in making this appeal to him I am aware I am pushing an open door.

The mushroom industry continues to prosper but we should examine how that industry developed and the reason it has been so successful. The first important prerequisite was the fact that the correct growing technology was used at the outset. We got it right on the production side also. With the involvement of the IDA a marketing structure was put in place to ensure quick and ready access to the market. During the 1990s the industry experienced difficulties in terms of currency fluctuations, etc., but it continues to prosper.

During my time in the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry, I was looking around to see if there was some other comparable product that could be developed along the same strategic lines as the mushroom industry. There was a degree of unanimity that the most likely successor to the mushroom as a big player in terms of providing employment and increasing output was hardy nursery stock, particularly given our climatic advantages.

I am pleased to see the level of development that has occurred in that sector. This industry would benefit greatly from production and distribution along the lines of the mushroom model. The satellite growers concept could be involved, whereby seedlings would be passed on to producers who would return them to a central area for marketing.

Because of the particular structure of the British market, where substantial progress can be made, there are a number of peak or focus times when one's product must be ready to a high quality. I look forward to seeing further progress in this regard. I congratulate all those involved in the development so far.

Deputy Coveney touched on the concept of seasonality in terms of our production of fruit and vegetables. Seasonality is obviously a limiting factor because some fruit and vegetables can only be produced at certain periods. Interestingly, domestically produced vegetables collectively enjoy a market share of 70 to 75 per cent. There is still room to improve those figures, but the extent varies from year to year. Climate in a particular year can affect yields and currency difficulties can also affect prices.

The dilemma always is to match supply to market demand. Unfortunately this is an inexact science because there are all sorts of variable factors which cannot be controlled and, therefore, our industry is at the behest of those vagaries. It is encouraging, however, that the market share of indigenous potatoes, cabbages and mushrooms is some 90 per cent.

Sometimes an overly negative picture is presented in relation to our industry generally. Food and horticulture formed part of my brief in the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry. The message in terms of developing the food and horticulture industries was the same — both industries will continue to be consumer led so we must always emphasise quality.

I spoke earlier about the health aspect of vegetables and how they are an important part of our diet. This education process must continue and I have no doubt that it will. I see many changes among younger people's choice of diet. One must produce what consumers want at the price and quality they require. Through various marketing measures we can introduce new produce and change tastes. All that will continue to be possible.

Employment levels within the industry, including the producers and others involved, is what it is all about. We produce a product that is necessary to a family's diet, but we also have to work towards creating employment. Some areas are more employment orientated than others. Both the Department and An Bord Glas were involved in producer groups because economies of scale can occur at a number of levels. For instance, a carrot producers' group was formed in the Ardmore area of my own constituency. Because of favourable climatic conditions in the Lismore area, their carrots were available some weeks before those of other producers. They discovered that savings could be achieved by using one van to transport the group's produce to the market in Cork, where most of the carrots were sold, instead of seven people travelling there separately. There are also ways of staggering production so that the total fully grown crop will not arrive at the same time for every producer.

The question of structures in the industry is vitally important as scale becomes a bigger factor throughout the food industry. In the context of rural areas, the more producers who can be kept in business the better. Even though horticultural activity may be part-time and supplementary to other sources of income, we should strive to keep as many sources of income as possible in place for rural communities. The circulation of such income is what keeps local economies running and developing.

I want to discuss apples in the context of the Minister of State's area of South Tipperary as well as Kilkenny and Waterford. As the Minister of State said in his speech, domestically grown apples account for about 14 per cent of the market. I believe this figure can be improved but I am not underestimating the difficulties in attempting to do so. As a Minster of State, the advice I received from Teagasc was that the area for growing dessert apples was basically south of a line from Dublin to Limerick, in valley areas.

While working in the Department, I was impressed by some of the work I saw at Kildalton at Piltown, County Kilkenny. The varieties of apples grown there had very good market potential. The storage of apples can cause problems. If growers want to get the best return they must store their apples and sell them at Hallowe'en when the demand is at its highest. There is room in the market for more commercial growers but the entry costs are very high. There is no return on investment until year three and the Department and other groups should give consideration to the provision of financial assistance to new entrants to the market. I ask the Minister to pay particular attention to this area of the industry and to encourage people to enter the market, thereby substantially increasing the 14 per cent share of the market accounted for by Irish products.

Growers in south Tipperary, Waterford and Kilkenny were badly affected by frost in early April. Up until then the crop was three weeks ahead of schedule due to the mild weather. The yields for this year are down substantially and some producers are in serious trouble. Some growers will go out of business if they are not given financial assistance. The Minister represents County Tipperary and I know he will do everything possible to keep these growers in business. I look forward to his reply to this point.

The report shows that the horticultural sector is doing well. However, the field vegetable sector did not do well in 1996. Many of the greenhouses used for growing tomatoes were constructed in the 1970s. If growers are to maximise production then they must install higher roofs in their greenhouses. Obviously the cost of doing this is very high. Deputy Coveney referred to tomato imports from the Canary Islands and Morocco where the product does not have to be grown in a protected, heated environment. The improvements in the variety of tomatoes in those countries affected the general market there. Tomato producers have to contend with many problems and I am very pleased to note in the report that they had a satisfactory year last year. I wish this sector of the industry well.

I look at the industry in terms of its employment potential. Hopefully other sectors of the industry will be as successful as the mushroom sector. The hardy nurseries stock sector is probably the most productive. It seems that the healthy eating agenda will continue to expand. We must not lose sight of the employment opportunities for disabled people in the industry. Disabled people are employed not for charitable reasons but because they are good workers and will ensure a return for their employers.

I congratulate An Bord Glas on its work since the interim board was put in place in 1987. I congratulate Deputy Kirk on the very fine work he did in this area when he was in office. I also congratulate Deputy Deenihan who introduced the forum. I will not refer to the forum in detail as I am sure Deputy Deenihan will refer to it in his contribution.

The Minister referred to the environmentally friendly aspect of the industry. The public and privately owned green areas in cities and towns have been greatly improved in recent years. Unlike other countries, producers here do not overuse insecticides, pesticides etc. However, we need to be vigilant and to jealously guard the quality of the soil and its productive capacity. In this context I referred earlier to statutory instruments on the rotation of potato growing and the consequent control of eel worm.

Market information is a two way street in some senses but at the end of the day it is about ascertaining what people want and providing products at a reasonable price. An Bord Glas has a very important role to play in this area. The quality programmes in which it has been involved since its inception have succeeded in bringing about changes for the better. We need look no further than the excellent displays in supermarkets and compare that with the position ten or 15 years ago to see that, with the assistance of the Department of Agriculture and Food, Teagasc and An Bord Glas, considerable progress has been made.

I wish the Minister of State, Deputy Davern, well in what I consider an exciting portfolio and one with much potential. I have little doubt he will put his stamp on the industry and bring about improvements in it. I congratulate An Bord Glas for this excellent, concise report in which information can be easily found. It outlines the present position in the industry and projections for the future.

I welcome the Minister, Deputy Davern, to his new role in this very important sector and wish him every success. Coming from the constituency of Dublin North where some of the biggest producers in the glasshouse, potato and soft fruit sectors reside, I hope to be an active supporter of the Minister's efforts to increase funding and the initiatives he brings forward in the interests of the industry.

The Minister outlined the history of the board. In the 1980s Mr. Haughey, in Opposition, decided there should be recognition of the industry and published a policy document on horticulture development, which has stood the test of time. The Minister rightly gave credit to the first Minister with responsibility for horticulture, Deputy Kirk, for the work he did in regard to the interim board and in establishing the present board of An Bord Glas, which has been a success. With its present funding, the industry and the taxpayer is well served.

The board was set up to improve and develop markets and the marketing skills of those involved in the industry. It has co-ordinated the development of the industry. Quality assurance schemes and the vegetable monitoring co-ordination programme operated by the IFA and An Bord Glas are important steps in improving growers' confidence. In his speech the Minister recognised that 60 per cent of the retail vegetable market is controlled by multiples. With the introduction of Tesco to the industry, that percentage will increase substantially. The Minister also recognised the role played by the board in the vegetable marketing co-ordination programme. I concur with him on the importance of that scheme. Since the resignation of Margaret Carr, who did marvellous work in this area over the years, the scheme has been run by Mr. P.J. Jones, Rush, and Mr. John O'Donovan, Cork. Even though its importance is recognised by the board and by the Minister, the scheme is run on a shoestring. I urge the Minister to ensure whatever funding, technical back-up or manpower is needed is made available. I ask him to address that matter in his concluding remarks.

Unless funding is made available for research, the industry will be unable to compete. In my constituency there is much concern about the lack of specialist advice and research by Teagasc. If research is not funded and replacements made in certain sectors, the industry will go down the slippery slope. In a recent interview with Aidan Arnold, the chairman of the board, Mr. Michael Murphy, made scathing remarks about the failure to replace Mr. Ted Ryan. The Minister recently visited Kinsealy research centre and saw the excellent work, expertise and specialist information available to many sectors. Without adequate funding for research and sufficient manpower in the workplace, the industry will be unable to compete with other countries.

Deputy Coveney said this sector receives no support. In the Minister's term of office I hope he will ensure the horticulture industry is included in schemes, funded nationally or by the EU. For many years I have made representations to Ministers about the farm retirement scheme, which has been extremely successful but from which horticultural producers are excluded. I hope the Minister will take up that matter at European level. It is indicative of the neglect of this sector that we must at all times remind people of its importance. I hope the Minister will confer similar benefits on this industry as on the agriculture industry. In recent years announcements were made of subsidised loans for new enterprises, which have been a great success, but horticulture has been excluded from those schemes. In the event of the Government introducing further loan schemes to assist young people setting up enterprise, the horticulture sector should be included.

The board recognises the importance of the tomato sector, which was referred to by other speakers. Our product is of the best quality and, given the right conditions, which include reasonable energy costs, our growers are able to compete with the best. In terms of energy costs, in the early 1980s growers in Rush were encouraged to transfer from oil to gas and commitments were given that a special case would be made in regard to the price structure of gas. I ask the Minister to keep that promise in mind in the context of any future price increase. I recognise An Bord Gáis has to deal with its industry in a commercial manner but in a labour intensive industry such as the glasshouse sector it is imperative that energy costs are given a high priority.

The year 1995 was a disaster for tomato growers. The board and the Minister are aware — and the former Minister of State, Deputy Deenihan, will be aware from representations in recent years — of an IFA growers' proposal seeking help for that industry. I will not dwell on the details of the proposal but in the context of the industry about £500,000 would be sufficient. Many of the best growers in Rush have not recovered from that disaster and are under tremendous pressure from the banks to sell off assets or to get out of the industry. Given that the previous Administration recognised the need for assistance I ask the Minister to look again at the files. The need for assistance was recognised at EU level. Because of the devaluation which took place that summer and the effect which the dumping of those products into the Irish market had on our growers, the Commission allowed individual countries to pay compensation. I understand Belgium, France and Germany have already paid such compensation to their growers. I ask the Minister to give consideration to the well documented case in respect of the 1995 tomato season.

In regard to the board I strongly believe in the concept of small being the right way to proceed. I would like the board to remain in its present format in relation to this specialised industry. Given its funding of £1.5 million it is doing an excellent job. I hope the Minister will be in a position to provide increased funding in the coming year to the industry. I have no doubt, given the right conditions, our producers are capable of competing with the best.

There is much concern with regard to the introduction of the Tesco chain into the retail sector. It is vitally important this indigenous industry is given the backup it deserves in terms of research and technical advice. Irrespective of what marketing programmes the board may introduce, if the producer on the ground is not given the necessary technical advice they are waste. If the individual producer is not able to compete in the modern world and does not have all the technical advice he needs we are making a big mistake. I urge the Minister to accede to the request made to him for research and so on.

I commend the board on its report. It is a precise report which provides many details. I hope the Minister is in a position to remedy some of the problems in the industry. I hope to be in a position to encourage the Government to provide extra funding to ensure some of those schemes can be put in place.

I wish the Minister of State, Deputy Davern, well in his new portfolio and compliment the outgoing Minister of State, Deputy Deenihan, who did an excellent job and took a keen interest in this area. I was pleased this morning that Deputy Yates and Deputy O'Shea contributed to the debate. I note Deputy Kirk is present. By the time this debate concludes four former Ministers as well as the Minister will have contributed. This is an indication of the level of interest.

I congratulate An Bord Glas on an excellent report. I have been given the honour of being spokesperson on this portfolio and I intend to be successful. It is early days yet and I have much to learn. While there are not many growers in the west there are many people involved in the industry whom I will be meeting in the next few weeks. I intend to put much pressure on the Minister to ensure he assists the people involved in the horticulture industry. This is an industry which most Governments, since the foundation of the State, have neglected.

If today the Tánaiste, Deputy Mary Harney, was announcing 25, 30 or 40 jobs from a Dutch, American or Third World company there would be a great fanfare. The IDA would be present and everybody would be delighted and say it was great that multinationals are coming to Ireland. Yet we have a natural industry and people with land who have not been assisted by the State and for many years have not received the support they should.

Recently I visited a young man, Mr. Horkan, who wrote to me and congratulated me on my brief. He started a plant business in the west. When I came into the Dáil the first question I asked was the total value of imports for the previous three years. From January to May 1997 the total value of imports was £9.2 million; 1996, £18.4 million; and 1995, £17 million. This is for an industry that depends much on the weather. When I see the advertisement on the television showing the extremes to which an individual goes to take the box of chocolates to his girlfriend, wife, partner or whatever, I think it is time An Bord Glas promoted and encouraged Irish people to buy pot plants. When we buy a bouquet of fresh flowers we are inclined to hide them as we do not want anyone to see us bringing them. It is time we encouraged people to buy pot plants.

The Deputy should speak for himself. That is a sexist remark about men. Some men are very proud to have flowers.

I do not know about that. I know some men who ask the florist to send them directly rather than deliver them personally.

The Minister of State, Deputy Davern, brings home a bouquet of flowers every week.

I do not doubt that. Local people such as the Horkans and Charlie and Mat Shaw are involved in the industry. The Horkans employ 25 people in the west, an area which has been ravaged by emigration and has not received much support from the IDA in terms of jobs in the past number of years. I hope the Government will give these people the support they need. I compliment Horkan's garden centre which won the national award in 1993-94.

I am sure the Minister will take a special interest in the fruit and vegetable industry in which part of his constituency — Kilkenny, Waterford and south Tipperary — is involved. There are only about 30 apple producers here, with approximately ten major producers in the north Dublin-Meath area. Some of them lost at least 50 per cent of their crops this year because of bad weather. When other sectors experience difficulties they quickly seek assistance from the Department, but this sector has not done that. I hope the Minister will respond to the difficulties they experienced this year. The Government should reward producers on a once-off basis for the major investments they have made. We produce approximately £3 million worth of apples each year, but we import £24 million worth. That does not make sense. Deputy Wright knows the difficulties experienced by apple producers in recent years.

I recently met a carrot producer who spent approximately £200,000 upgrading his washing and grading facilities. Producers must update their equipment because consumers will not buy second rate goods and want to know the origin of the produce they purchase. I hope the Minister can assist vegetable producers who also experienced difficulties this year because of bad weather. Other sectors of agriculture are quick to seek help from the Minister and Members when they experience difficulties. Fruit and vegetable producers should not be ignored in difficult times merely because fewer numbers are involved. That natural industry should be assisted in every possible way.

I am pleased strawberry producers in north Dublin and Meath are supplying Tesco. The Minister referred to large multiples. During my time in business I dealt mostly with small businesses. Large multiples have swallowed up small businesses and taken over 60 per cent or 70 per cent of the market. Like the horticulture industry, successive Governments have failed to protect small shopkeepers or small industries. Small industries no longer count in this State, but we are paying the price for that. Large multiples dictate prices and terms and conditions. People in offices in London or Dublin can decide to import produce from South Africa or elsewhere if it is cheaper than buying from home producers. It is regrettable that large multiples are taking over the market, they do not care about the small producer. They are concerned only with profit margins and the number of customers they can attract to their shops. They have no loyalty to Irish producers.

Under the capital grants for the horticulture industry an investment of £180,000 was grant aid, but unfortunately that figure has been reduced to £90,000. It should be increased to £200,000 or £300,000 because of the increased costs associated with restoring or replacing glasshouses. This industry must compete with the UK and European markets and if our products are not up to standard they will not be sold.

An Bord Glas produced an excellent report, but its budget of £1.6 million should be increased to approximately £3 million. It costs approximately £800,000 per annum to run the company, leaving very little to promote the industry. We should promote organic produce. While An Bord Glas is doing a good job in promoting the industry, it can do very little on a budget of £1.6 million. The Minister should make sure he receives a reasonable amount of funding for An Bord Glas from the Minister for Finance this year. I wish to share time with Deputy Deenihan.

Ireland has the second lowest sales of plants in Europe. We can create more employment in the plant industry. We should set aside more days on which people are encouraged to buy plants. We should encourage people to purchase home grown plants on occasions such as Mother's Day and Father's Day. We should not have to import plants for such occasions, the home industry should be supported. If the hardy nursery stock sector received assistance from Government it would create more employment.

In the past the seed potato sector was a major industry in the west, particularly in north Mayo and Donegal. R.G. Barrett exported seed potatoes from Westport and Ballina Quays to countries all over the world, but that is no longer the case. I am pleased, however, that the Moy Valley Seed Potato Company, with the assistance of one or two farmers, has set up a co-operative and hopes to grow and export seed potatoes. That company should also receive Government support.

I look forward to meeting the parties involved in the horticulture industry. I intend to get to know this brief and to work hard on behalf of producers. They have been let down by many Governments for many years probably because they are natives. If they came from China, America or elsewhere and invested in industry they would be eligible for millions of pounds of grants and there would be bands to welcome and congratulate them. However, because they are Irish and producing land based products there is no support for them nor has there been any for many years.

I hope the Minister of State, like the former Minister Deputy Deenihan, will continue to do good work and will look after those who work, invest in and are committed to this industry to ensure they get the support they require from the State and should have got for many years. Some of them experience difficult times and they should get assistance at those times. They make their returns to the State when times are good and they should get support from the Department. I am depending on the Minister to provide for them.

I thank Deputy Ring for sharing his time with me. I take this opportunity to congratulate the Minister of State on his appointment. I am confident he will bring a good deal of pragmatism to his position, that he will use his energy to promote this sector and during his stewardship I am sure the horticultural industry will benefit. I mean that sincerely having regard to my dealings with him over the years. I also take this opportunity to thank his Department officials who are present. A small number of people work in the horticultural unit in the Department. I had a good deal of contact with that unit in the two and a half years I was Minister of State and it was a great experience to work with the staff there. We worked in a spirit of co-operation and for the common good. At times politicians find officials easy targets, but the level of co-operation I got from the officials in the Department of Agriculture, Food and Forestry was positive, encouraging and heartening.

I welcome the chief executive and chairman of An Bord Glas in the visitors gallery. I worked closely with them and with the previous chairman of the board. At all times we worked in a spirit of partnership and co-operation and, ultimately, the industry benefited from our collective wisdom on many sensitive issues at various times.

I wish Deputy Ring well in his area of responsibility. He will keep horticulture on the agenda and I am sure he will raise many questions of concern to interest groups. I am pleased the IFA is represented here. I am sure Deputy Ring will work closely with its members to ensure all matters that affect this industry are raised in the House.

The budget for An Bord Glas was a point of contention with me when I became Minister of State in the previous Government. The budget for 1997 is £1.634 million. That is a small budget, the smallest for any State agency, particularly for one with the responsibility of An Bord Glas. When I was Minister of State I also had responsibility for the greyhound industry. I tried to secure as much money as possible for that industry and, even though it needs more funds, it is better funded than An Bord Glas. I appeal to the Minister of State to secure more funding for the horticultural industry. Before I left office I requested that the budget for the industry be increased. I appreciate there is a spending level, but I am sure it is possible to get money for An Bord Glas from other areas of the Department. It was estimated that a budget of £2.5 million is necessary to ensure it is effective.

There are only 11 staff members in An Bord Glas who must deal with a multiplicity of products including all the ranges of food and vegetables, ware and seed potatoes, amenity horticulture, nursery stock flowers, bulbs and so on. That is a vast area for that small number of staff to deal with and I compliment them on their work. They are young, energetic and committed to their work, and that is worth recognising. They deal with a multiplicity of groups and agencies involved in the industry including producers, wholesalers, retailers, consumers and State agencies. The staffing complement for An Bord Glas should be given serious consideration. Taxpayers are getting a great return from An Bord Glas. It should be better resourced and the staffing complement should be increased.

The industry is worth about £223 million, which is considerable, and represents approximately 15 per cent of employment in the agricultural industry. There has been a proliferation of garden centres and nurseries and latest figures show that approximately 12,700 people are employed in the horticultural industry on a full-time basis and 19,000 or 20,000 on a part-time basis.

The Horticultural Industry Forum is very important and I will raise it with the Minister of State at another time. It was very important this summer particularly in regard to tomato production. The chief executive and the chairman were able to make arrangements with the multiples to ensure that Irish tomatoes were selected.

When I was Minister of State I set up an effective interagency group on amenity horticulture. It included representatives of An Bord Tráchtála, Forbairt, Teagasc, An Bord Glas and the Department. It discussed the foliage industry, made considerable progress and its re-establishment is worth considering.

The organic farming consultative group was effective because it included members from the various representative groups who felt isolated and alienated and much progress was made in that area.

I set up a group to devise a national landscape policy, a matter that probably should be handled by the Department of the Environment. That idea is worth pursuing. We need a national landscape policy and no doubt it would benefit the horticultural industry.

I do not have sufficient time to expand on these points, but I take this opportunity to thank officials for their work and to wish the Minister of State well in his new office. A former Minister of State, Deputy Kirk is present, and Deputy O'Shea and the former Minister, Deputy Yates, were present. There is goodwill in this House towards the industry. We all want to help and will be as helpful and constructive as possible to the Minister of State in his term of office.

Tír ghlas, An Bord Glas, Bia glas Aer glan, Tír fhalláin agus Bia úr. Ireland has a clean healthy environment which produces clean healthy food. The functions of An Bord Glas are to develop, promote, facilitate, encourage, co-ordinate and assist the production, marketing and consumption of horticultural produce. The board's report and its Development Plan 1994-99 recognises the challenge of achieving higher levels of output with efficient production, marketing and management skills. It also recognises that all efforts must be consistent and support work to enhance the environment. We are very fortunate that the production of most primary horticultural food products is done in an environmentally friendly way. It does not create environmental damage which can arise in other sectors. I am aware An Bord Glas is endeavouring to ensure that its marketing and development efforts continue to support the environment. Surely it is not too much to expect that a green country with a green board can produce green food.

I speak as a consumer, one who views, reviews, selects and consumes, a consumer who is faced with a range of fruit and vegetables of many hues and shapes, many of which were unheard of ten years ago, a consumer who sees expanded ranges in shops, greengrocers, farm gates and supermarkets; but, primarily, a consumer whose interest lies in food safety and quality.

Consumer power has led to the development of a horticultural industry in this country which is estimated to be valued at £166 billion in 1996. When demand is that high and that valuable, there is a danger that producers and suppliers will tend to cut corners, let standards slip and avail of every opportunity to speed up production to ensure attractive long-lasting produce, irrespective of how that is gained, and an element of experimentation can set in.

The industry is only valuable to Ireland in so far as it remains of high quality, clean and green. The organic food market in Ireland is worth approximately £1.5 million and vegetables account for 60 per cent of this. The sum of £1.5 million is very small in the overall context and the reason is that the demand for organic produce is still reported to be exceeding supply. This is significant in so far as organic produce tends to be more expensive than other produce, proving the fact that the shopper has one main concern, and that is food safety.

We do not want our food sprayed with pesticides and insecticides, nor do we want soya super beans, apples that will not decay and tomatoes that will not rot. Is the bright red fruit natural, waxed or genetically engineered? Like many consumers, I am worried about the ethical and long-term environmental impact of genetic engineering breeding methods.

Biotechnology seems to be taking the place of conventional methods, which have been used for centuries to modify varieties of plants and animals. Such conventional methods have involved selection, crossbreeding and hybridisation. Today the aim seems to be to improve further certain characteristics of plants, animals and microorganisms by introducing a modified, or unmodified, copy of a gene either from the same or from another species. Personally, I worry about mixing the genes of the human, animal and plant kingdoms.

Experiments are also aimed at improving food production so that plants are more resistant to disease, hard weather conditions or other effects of the environment and they aim to extend the choice and shelf life of foods. We have already been introduced to Dolly, the cloned sheep. Dolly may be joined by animals with no fat or chickens with no feathers. But in the context of the horticultural industry which we are discussing today, the following inventions may be coming our way: iceberg lettuce in individual serving size, potatoes which will absorb less fat when made into chips, tomatoes which will have their rotting enzymes removed; or corn with scorpion genes. I, as a consumer, do not want to be guinea pig in the global experiment involving genetically engineered foods. Ireland should not allow itself to become drawn into this experiment for beet, horticulture or animals.

There is a lack of objective research in relation to genetic engineering and, indeed, there is little evidence to date that safety is an overriding concern for producers. In Canada, two strains of genetically engineered rape seed had to be withdrawn from the market because of the unexpected appearance of a stray gene. A food supplement produced in the US from genetically engineered ingredients was found to include an unknown toxin that killed 37 people and permanently disabled 1,500 more.

I regret that Ireland allowed a multinational company, Monsanto, to begin testing and growing genetically modified organism sugar beet, known as GMO sugar beet, in Carlow. There is no demand from any quarter for GMO food. Every survey and opinion poll shows that consumers do not want GMO food. Public safety has been ignored, public concern is being ignored and the long-term effect on our valuable horticultural industry seems to have been substituted by immediate short-term interests. I am not against development, science or biotechnology but I am against rushing into developments when safety and long-term effects have not been properly investigated.

Consumers have many reasons for being concerned about genetic engineering, and the primary one is safety. What if a food has the genes of a monkey nut in it and the consumer has an allergic reaction to nuts? A vegetarian may not want to eat a product which has been made with the genes derived from an animal. An Orthodox Jew may not wish to consume a food which was made with the genes derived from a pig. Will crossbreeding of plants with genetic modification lead to disturbances of ecological titles? Already such foods may be on our shelves, but there is nothing to indicate to the consumer that they have been genetically engineered. Foods derived from genetic engineering should be clearly identified and labelled as such. Information about the process should be given in a prescribed format. Labelling should be positive, not negative. For example, labelling which states "this food does not contain any genetically engineered ingredient" is not acceptable. It is more important for the consumer to know what it does contain. One should not assume that all food is safe and there is no need to warn consumers about the use of new technology.

The BSE crisis has shown how much consumers need information. In particular, we need to know about the origin of food. In recent years we have made tremendous progress in the labelling of food regarding E additives and preservatives. The next step should be to ensure that all foods containing genetically modified ingredients and those produced from genetically modified science should be labelled as such. Consumers are entitled to know this and to express a preference for the type of foods they want to buy.

The best way, however, of protecting the consumer and of protecting the horticultural industry is to insist on a ban on genetic engineering in Ireland, and I ask the Minister and the Government to institute such a ban.

I also support the call this week of the chief executive of the Food Safety Authority of Ireland to establish a system for rapidly detecting sources of food poisoning. It is unacceptable that salmonella strains of bacteria must be sent to Britain for identification of their specific type. Ensuring food is safe involves a chain of responsibility. A reference laboratory would support the work already being done by vets, farmers, shops and consumers.

Fianna Fail is committed to ensuring the highest possible standards of food production and aims to introduce a quality assurance scheme which will be applicable across the entire food industry. This scheme will result in products of excellence and a high level of market suitability being identified with a quality label similar to the Labelle Rouge system which is in operation in France. I urge the immediate introduction of this in order to protect the consumer.

I compliment An Bord Glas in its work to date in developing, improving and promoting the horticultural industry. For them, too, quality is of paramount importance. The continued success of the industry depends on education and training at all levels of the quality chain. It creates a requirement for personnel who have a knowledge of horticultural produce as a biological material together with a knowledge of the business environment of the post-harvest sector of the industry.

Education is one of those topics referred to in the annual report and I compliment the Dublin Institute of Technology, Cathal Brugha Street, for the development of courses to respond to the needs of the industry. Having spent six years as chairperson of the board of the Dublin College of Catering, as it was then, I am particularly conscious of the willingness and ability of this college to respond to the demands of industry.

A certificate course in food quality assurance, such as horticulture, addresses the fundamentals of quality assurance in the horticultural industry and the management of fresh produce. The diploma course is a natural development of the certificate from the academic, industrial and personal development perspective. These courses form part of the food related courses offered by the School of Food Science and Technology, within the Faculty of Tourism and Food. There is also a growing level of activity in research and development in food. Examples include work in detection of genetically modified foods, minimal processing of horticultural produce and implementation of legislation. Only through education and research can we improve our standards and protect consumers and the environment.

As the Christmas season approaches, it is useful to consider the work of An Bord Glas in respect of the Christmas tree industry. Specialised Christmas tree production is a recent development in Ireland but it has a long history in Europe and the USA. The Irish market for Christmas trees is estimated at approximately 300,000 whereas in England the market size in 1995 was 5.5 million and in Germany it was 27 million. The first challenge for An Bord Glas is to meet the needs of the Irish market. The noble fir trees planted in the 1980s will now largely meet those needs. Our second challenge should be to market in Europe. I note that the aim in the Bord Glas development plan is that the Christmas tree sector should increase in value and volume to approximately £7.5 million in 1999. I look forward to purchasing a quality natural Christmas tree at that time which, hopefully, will not cost the current outlandish price of £30.

The horticultural industry is well served by An Bord Glas. Its development plan is innovative and forward-looking but the horticultural industry could also be well served by legislation, control of irradiation, banning genetic engineering and ensuring accurate labelling. This will ensure that the consumer is protected, the industry developed and Ireland maintains its natural green status.

We are discussing the An Bord Glas report for 1996, which was a good year for fruit and vegetables — I suggest that An Bord Glas be renamed the "fruit and veg" board. It has been a different story in 1997. I have no doubt that the personnel of An Bord Glas are doing a good job in difficult circumstances.

One of the major problems faced by those working in horticulture in Ireland involves climatic conditions such as lack of sunshine. We have an inability to grow many of the products we consume which leads to a necessity to import them. This is a difficult problem which will not be easy for individuals, groups or boards to overcome. However, a number of measures could be put in place to help produce products which are difficult to produce under normal climatic conditions.

I would like to see increased use of plastic sheeting and glass greenhouses. In countries with sunny climates such as Italy, Spain and France, glass and plastic are used to promote the growth of marginal fruits and vegetables. We do not seem to endeavour to succeed where nature defeats us. However, I realise the climatic factors in Ireland such as gales, etc., might cause damage to plastic sheeting.

The people who operate most successfully in the field of horticulture receive no assistance and do all the work themselves. A previous speaker referred to the production of carrots in Ardmore, County Waterford. The group involved in this enterprise is very industrious and the key to its recent success — which has also been used in the production of potatoes in Ballinacourty, County Waterford and areas of south Wexford — was not alluded to in the report of An Bord Glas or the Minister of State's contribution. The system used involves the placing of plastic sheeting over entire fields of carrots, parsnips and early potatoes.

Tremendous advances have been achieved through the use of such aids. For example, the methods used in carrot production at Ardmore, which is primarily directed toward the market in Cork city, means that produce can be placed on the market four to six weeks earlier than if the carrots were grown in open fields. The group involved has done itself proud and its methods are also being used by potato growers in other areas. As already stated, this development, which is the most successful advance in recent years, is not referred to in the report.

I imagine that the repetition in this debate is boring for some people. However, as Deputies Kirk and O'Shea, both former Ministers of State, indicated, the major area of growth and expansion in horticulture is in the mushroom industry. This industry initially developed in Border counties such as Cavan and Monaghan but it has since spread to many other areas.

Production of many other horticultural products has receded rather than progressed. It is difficult to see how that trend can be reversed, particularly if account is taken of climatic conditions and the avalanche of year-round imports. In the past, the only horticultural produce imported to Ireland were early potatoes from Cyprus, Italy and Spain and tomatoes from the greenhouses in the Netherlands. Now, however, such produce is being imported from South and Central America, southern Europe and North Africa. It is difficult to compete with countries with perfect climates.

Our attitude to growing vegetables and fruit leaves much to be desired. This has much to do with the welfare state mentality, namely, that people do not have to work for the money they receive. I deplore that ethos because our ancestors kept their households going by producing vegetables and fruit. That is no longer the case because people merely purchase what they need from supermarkets. Their front gardens are well kept but their back gardens are overrun with weeds or the grass has been replaced by tarmacadam or concrete. It appears that the day of tilling one's own cabbage patch or plot of land is gone. Politicians get an insight in this regard when they go canvassing. Canvassing gives one a great excuse to knock on a front door, and if there is nobody home one can look around the back where the story is not a very flattering one.

People who can afford it have concrete or tarmac or a beautiful lawn, but the days of having a vegetable garden are virtually gone. One would be doing well to find one in 30 or one in 40 growing vegetables, and that person is usually middleaged or older, has pride in his work and likes to grow his own produce. It is a striking indictment because we are not that wealthy a country.

In Germany, Holland and France a high proportion of people, who are much better off financially than we are, till their own plots. They grow salad vegetable — chives, lettuces, scallions, etc. They grow tomatoes and grapes for making wine. We have lost that ethos here. We depend on others to give us what we need. Even the English do much more than we do. In England and in some countries on the Continent they still have allotments. People who are old enough to remember the last war will remember that people rented allotments from the local councils on which to grow their own vegetables. They had to; if they did not they went hungry. That tradition is still carried on in Great Britain and in parts of the Continent where one can still see people tilling their own plots all year round, a tradition that has lived on. We, as an agricultural country, do not give two hoots about that. It is beyond us to do menial work of that nature. I make the point because it says a certain amount about our society. It is a marked indication that we have moved away from the basics and are not doing simple things that we should be doing, growing our own — it might be a slogan for An Bord Glas.

The most successful people in horticulture are those who do what they do with no assistance. I am not aware that any of my constituents who grow early potatoes, carrots, parsnips, cabbage, cauliflower, etc., get any assistance from An Bord Glas. They do all the work and marketing themselves. Sometimes, as in Ardmore, they form co-operative groups and sell on a joint basis. There may be more of an emphasis by An Bord Glas closer to Dublin, but I do not see it down the country. However, I am open to correction if I am being unduly critical.

It is a mistake to say that our import and export position is not bad. The wrong message may be read from the fact that the cost of produce is going up all the time. One family in south Kilkenny grows thousands of acres of potatoes. The same happens in counties Meath and Dublin. That means thousands of people who produced potatoes years ago do not do so any more. One district outside Dungarvan, an area of small farmers, was famous for producing potatoes, among other vegetables. I doubt if there is a potato grown in the whole locality now. These are the days of mass production. Potatoes are produced by the trailer load by one individual. That is the trend, but it means that fewer people are involved and that we are importing more of everything every year. There are many vegetables we could produce, despite climatic conditions. These include potatoes, the brassicas — cauliflower, cabbage, Brussels sprouts; turnips are produced mainly for fodder now and not so much for human consumption.

One area where there has been tremendous advancement, but which is peripheral where An Bord Glas is concerned but very important to the economy, is the area of garden centres and the production of shrubs and flowers. Years ago we would not have considered that area to be part of the horticultural industry. Nowadays it is included. It involves recreational gardening rather than producing for consumption. People have pride in how their houses and gardens look, and with the growth of affluence that area is improving and expanding all the time. However, there are many basic products we could produce but are not producing, and there is no easy solution to this because of people's mentality.

There are exceptional areas, for example, Wexford, where there has been a tremendous upsurge over the past 25 years and where so many strawberries are produced. This year the strawberry producers took a beating because of the incessant rain during June when the fruit was swamped and did not develop. I commend the Minister for making money available to cereal farmers and other producers of horticultural products who suffered because of the bad weather.

I spoke in the House recently about the apple producers in Waterford, south Kilkenny and south Tipperary. There are only between nine and 12 commercial apple producers in that whole locality where years ago hundreds of people produced apples on a commercial basis. In the late 1960s and early 1970s the variety of apple called "Golden Delicious", which was developed in France, was introduced to this country. Farmers who had never produced apples before put in orchards of "Golden Delicious" all over the place. There were soon hundreds of commercial apple producers in my own county. Now there are six or seven. This is a sobering statistic.

The valley from Dungarvan to Fermoy and Mallow was the home of apple growing in Ireland. There was an apple institute located within it. When we joined the European Union in 1973 there were guaranteed prices for milk and beef. This resulted in orchards being replaced by cows. With the exception of major investment in the glasshouse sector, there are virtually no grants available from the European Union for early potato growers in Ballinacourty, carrot growers in Ardmore and others involved in horticulture. We are overrun by imports, including those from countries outside the European Union. It is an uphill fight and there is nothing the Minister of State and An Bord Glas can do about it. I will not be political and say that he should. Those involved in the sector will have to paddle their own canoe and fight their own case.

One no longer has to travel to Amsterdam to see beautiful fields of tulips. In recent years the growing of tulips has been identified in my own area as a source of income. Apparently they grow far better here than in most other places. I understand they are produced mainly for export.

For the American market.

When Minister, a person came to see me and told me this could be done — when I put it to my officials they laughed — but I read as recently as one month ago that lavender is being grown here successfully on a commercial basis for use in the production of scented soaps and perfumes. There are many areas about which we do not speak and in which results are being achieved. More and more restaurants and housewives are growing herbs instead of vegetables.

It is stated in the report that we should be trying to sell products containing vitamin E which is good for us and counteracts heart problems. Young people in particular should be encouraged to eat apples, pears and plums which can be grown here instead of junk food. The Minister of State should consult the Department of Health and find out by how much the Health Estimate could be reduced if people ate an apple a day and a pear every couple of days. As a medical doctor, the Leas-Cheann Comhairle might have an opinion to offer on that. The effect of such a campaign could be tremendous. Potatoes are rapidly being substituted by rice which cannot be grown here, although it may have been possible to do so in County Waterford in August. These points may be offbeat but they are relevant.

(Wexford): This debate as well as presenting us with an ideal opportunity to reminisce and romanticise the past gives us an opportunity to highlight the major issues which cause problems for those involved in horticulture such as tight profit margins offered by supermarkets and weather conditions.

I pay tribute to the chief executive of An Bord Glas, Mr. Brendan O'Donnell, and his staff for the tremendous work they are doing in developing this sector. What I find baffling is that most members of the board are usually fired by the incoming Government on completion of their three-year term, even though they have tremendous ability and knowledge of the sector. Only three members of the previous board were retained. This needs to be looked at to ensure continuity in the implementation of the development plan. A three-year term is not adequate. All of the current members are experts in their field but I wonder whether the appointments are too political.

An Bord Glas has a small staff of 11 and a small budget. I hope the Minister of State, who is very astute, will seek extra funding in the forthcoming Estimates. An Bord Glas provides a worthwhile service throughout the country. When the County Wexford Strawberry Fair, at 30 years the longest running fair in the country, was under threat a number of years ago Mr. O'Donnell and his staff made an invaluable contribution by allocating a substantial amount of money to ensure its continuance. It has an international flavour and has gone from strength to strength. It is of major importance to the local economy. The committee, patrons and growers appreciate the tremendous help given by An Bord Glas in recent years.

I thank the Minister of State for visiting County Wexford at short notice at the height of the crisis during the strawberry growing season to meet growers and processors. I hope, under the package he has produced, substantial compensation will be paid to growers.

Will the Minister of State consider establishing regional offices of An Bord Glas? It is time this was done. It would not give rise to major overheads. It is important that personnel from An Bord Glas are made available to the horticulture industry in each region. The Minister should examine how that might be achieved. New offices or buildings would not be needed because Teagasc or Department of Agriculture and Food offices could be used and a worthwhile regional service could be made available.

When one considers the industry is worth £223 million currently and represents about 15 per cent of agricultural employment, the staff of 11 with a small budget needs to be increased substantially if the plan for 1994-99 is to be developed properly. I hope the Cabinet will examine the importance of the horticulture sector, consider its development in conjunction with An Bord Glas and give a substantial increase in funding. Given that the Departments are awash with money some of it should be made available to the Minister of State.

County Wexford has a broadly based horticulture industry including early and late potatoes, carrots, peas, strawberries, raspberries, blackcurrants, gooseberries, apples, rhubarb, which is not too widespread, and cabbage. It is to the forefront in horticulture development but the growers suffer from weather problems, cheap imports and difficulties in dealing with the supermarkets.

I am aware An Bord Glas encourages partnership arrangements between farm organisations, producers, consumers and the retail multiples. It is important the products are of top quality and are produced in a green environment. However, it is also important the producer is adequately paid for the products. The supermarkets tend to squeeze out the producer by demanding top quality products at very low prices. As a result many producers are going out of business.

I am concerned major supermarket companies such as Tesco which is now in the Irish market, seem to be moving away from high quality products being produced here and towards imports and buying from large producer groups. Small scale producers are being forced out of business. I am pleased that An Bord Glas is involved with Tesco in establishing a trading consultative group involving An Bord Bia, Forbairt and other State agencies. However, I am not sure the supermarkets are committed to it and perhaps the Minister of State will indicate the nature of the discussions and negotiations in which he is involved with them.

The mushroom industry is an example to Tesco, Marks and Spencer and other English companies that we are capable of producing top quality products. We are part of the UK mushroom market thanks to the growers in counties Monaghan and Cavan and also thanks to companies such as PA Walsh and others in the south-east who have marketed their top class products in the UK. Our other products are also produced in a virtually organic fashion and we should be in a position to put pressure on the supermarket multiples to buy more of these top quality products. It is the consumers' wishes that count and consumers want such products. It is up to the supermarkets, in conjunction with An Bord Glas and the producers, to make such quality products available. We must ensure that as many as possible of the products being sold in Ireland are Irish products.

The supermarkets have made advances in presentation and quality in retailing products. In the past products may have been dirty and ill presented. However, top quality products are now available to shoppers in supermarkets and we must continue to move in that direction. It is important that the Minister of Sate would lead the charge with An Bord Glas to ensure growers are not left behind when the supermarkets are buying horticultural products.

In my childhood in County Wexford every back garden had strawberries growing in it. The income from strawberries was used to put children through college or to buy communion or confirmation outfits. Society is more affluent nowadays. However, strawberry production should not be allowed to decrease much further. An Bord Glas has introduced a quality bonus scheme for the strawberry processing industry but there has been a substantial decline in the number of strawberry growers in County Wexford, which is the main growing area, and in other parts of the country.

It is welcome that An Bord Glas will give incentives over the next three years to bring about an increase of 100 acres per year in the strawberry growing area. I encourage the Minister of State and An Bord Glas to continue this development because it would be a shame if the strawberry industry is allowed to decline to a point where it is no longer viable. A number of processors, such as Chivers, have been purchasing strawberries in the south-east for many years but they are not getting enough product there and there is a need to give the industry a boost.

I welcome An Bord Glas involvement in initiatives to develop the strawberry industry for the future. It is involved with the Wexford growers' association and Teagasc in developing new ideas and products. Teagasc in Clonroche, County Wexford has been involved in developing new varieties. This development approach should be continued.

I thank the Minister for coming to Wexford and for recognising that strawberry growers had a major problem this year. They depend on good weather to produce a top quality strawberry crop but the weather this year was not good and as a result they suffered a substantial decrease in their income. There was also a smaller quantity of strawberries produced for processors. I am glad the Minister became actively involved with this issue.

In recent years there has been a substantial increase in the number of garden centres. In Wexford, for example, the number of garden centres has escalated. This is a good development because it creates jobs. Up to three people work in each garden centre producing shrubs and greenery, for which there is huge demand. As Deputy Deasy pointed out, the centres received no grant aid. I have tried to encourage county enterprise boards to give small grants to people setting up such centres because they create jobs. In other sectors we pay huge amounts of money to companies locating in Ireland to generate employment, yet in south Wexford about 50 jobs were created in the past two years in garden centres which received no grant aid or financial support. The Minister should examine how start up grant aid can be given to such enterprises, perhaps through the Leader programme or the county enterprise boards or An Bord Glas. In that way more jobs could be created in the sector. The demand for those jobs is so great that Teagasc and FÁS are involved in training people for them and in encouraging young school leavers to join relevant training schemes so they can secure employment in garden centres. That is a good development and should be encouraged.

There is a need to examine the potato industry. It is a seasonal industry heavily dependent on the weather. The report of An Bord Glas confirms that the board is greatly involved in developing the industry. It is necessary to look at the quality of potatoes and how to achieve a better seasonal return for producers. The price varies from year to year. In some years potato growers in Wexford are in danger of being wiped out because of poor prices but in other years the prices are so high that everybody starts to grow them which results in a fall in prices the following year. There does not appear to be consistency in the industry.

Potato growing should be left to the experts, although Deputy Deasy would probably be of the opinion that everybody should grow their own potatoes. However, there is a significant number of expert potato producers in my county and throughout the country and responsibility for production should be left to them instead of farmers and others deciding to grow potatoes during various seasons when it suits them or when they think prices will be good. We will never have continuity of supply or a proper potato industry unless there is a level playing pitch which will enable producers with expertise to make a living from it.

I thank the Minister for his help to date in areas of County Wexford where difficulties have arisen in the horticultural sector. I also thank An Bord Glas for its contribution to the county. We hear a great deal about cheap imports but if we cannot produce the product all year round there will be significant imports. The producer, supplier, An Bord Glas and the Department of Agriculture and Food, through the Minister, must make a major effort to develop the horticultural industry. They must tell the Irish people, the supermarkets and the Europeans that we have a top class quality product which is produced organically in a green environment and that we are the leaders in this sector. If that is done we can significantly increase the number of jobs in the industry and promote our horticultural industry across the EU.

I thank the Minister of State for his comprehensive statement and I wish him every success in his new office. I hope he blossoms and blooms in the years ahead. He is lucky to have a portfolio through which he can develop an industry that needs leadership although in saying that I mean no disrespect to An Bord Glas and its pioneering work in recent years under the development plan.

If one were to look at any industry in Ireland, particularly this one, 150 years ago and look at what has happened to it in the interim, in all cases one would see huge expansion and development. Horticulture was always classified as the Cinderella of the agriculture industry and was treated by successive Ministers as such. There was little regard for the sector because it was composed either of producers who were supplementing an income or of very small scale producers. They were insignificant in the overall plan for the development of the agriculture industry.

When one looks at horticulture 150 years ago one thinks of the Famine, and the humble potato and the failure of the crop immediately comes to mind. Since 1847 there has been a steady decline, despite occasional exceptional years, in potato production. A 10 per cent decline was recorded last year. That is a serious matter. It is time to sound the alarm and see what can be done to arrest the decline as this is not just a question of decline in the production of one product. The effect of the decline in potato production over the years has been a change in lifestyle and a change in population in rural Ireland. As a direct result of the Famine we experienced large scale emigration and lost most of our population of eight million people. We have barely recovered.

In 1997 we talk about rural renewal as a new concept. What does that mean? Does it mean we must rethink what we produce, as Deputy Deasy mentioned? There are traces of old famine ridges throughout the countryside. They have never been touched. The decline has been ongoing and nobody has called a halt to the population movement. What part can horticulture play? It can have a vital role in stabilising population in rural areas if an effective plan is put in place. It might apply to small producers in the west or along our seaboards but it could be anywhere in rural Ireland if an effective plan is put in place, For instance, to return to the subject I just mentioned, the main reason for a decline in the production of potatoes is the uncertainty about whether the producer will have a viable income. All too often a producer is unable to be sure of that from one year to another, no matter how optimistic or effective he is. This price fluctuation must be given a positive boost by the Minister and An Bord Glas by stabilising the price and setting up a price structure with a guaranteed minimum for all products in this area. It may be difficult to set but why should we not have it? There is a minimum guaranteed price for beef and that leads to an oversupply with restrictions on production. In this area, however, we are importing costly commodities which we could produce efficiently and effectively if confidence was there. The major problem in horticulture is lack of confidence and I hope the Minister, during his time in the portfolio, will cultivate this. Successive Governments have paid lip service to the area and it is now necessary to restore confidence and guarantee an income to those still in the industry, whose numbers will continue to decrease unless action is taken.

Many Members spoke of the importance of vegetables to our diet. However, greater reassurance is needed from the Department of Agriculture and Food and the Department of Health and Children on this matter. Are those wonderfully presented vegetables as safe a food item as we would like the consumer to believe? Intensive production has meant the use of preservative and pest control sprays which may enhance the appearance and presentation of products on food stalls but are harmful to their quality. Some substances have been banned in recent times but others still being used are harmful, although people may use them unknowingly. The use of growth promoters in the beef sector has thankfully been resolved by the Department. The same applies to this sector — we cannot stand over these products and say they are not harmful to the consumer. I ask the Minister to establish, as a matter of urgency, an inspectorate in the Department, perhaps under the auspices of An Bord Glas, so that we can be guaranteed that proper inspection takes place and no substances which could be classed as harmful are being used on or retained within products available for sale. Some substances produced by chemical companies will be retained within products until they are consumed, which is frightening. When we see a beautiful shiny apple on a shop counter, we must question why it is so shiny and colourful. It is usually imports which are treated in this way, I am glad to say. I am not certain we are eating high quality, healthy products without any downside.

The Minister should introduce a support system similar to that available in all other sectors of agriculture. If that means providing grants, then Irish producers must receive them on a par with other producers who receive such aids and facilities. Grants are provided for storage of commodities, cleansing and other value added processes on vegetables. We must go beyond that and give realistic support to producers to ensure they will remain in the sector for the future.

One area which should be examined is below cost selling, particularly of potatoes. Many supermarkets have temporary hoardings saying that potatoes are selling at £1.99 or £2.99 a bag, although no producer in Ireland can sell them at that price. I do not blame Tesco or the other multinationals but our own retailers who use commodities like potatoes in this way. This happens not only in Dublin but throughout the country. I am sick looking at these signs and am often tempted to tear them down or challenge the owner of the shop about why he is doing this, which hurts his customers who produce potatoes. As a first step it is essential that potatoes are taken out of the category they share with soft fruits and that under cost sales are banned. That will be helpful and supportive and will improve confidence.

The report deals extensively with the mushroom industry. I have reservations about this area also, but not about An Bord Glas's efforts to promote and market the product. Mushroom growing was greeted in rural areas with euphoria. People were encouraged to erect low cost tunnels and they saw in mushrooms a niche with which to supplement their incomes. Now, a few years on, the reality has hit them — can they compete on a level playing pitch with the other producers?

Three major companies have a stranglehold on the mushroom industry. Not only are these the major mushroom producers, they also provide the compost and small producers have no alternative but to buy compost from these companies. Monaghan Mushrooms, in the Leas-Cheann Comhairle's constituency is one of these major companies and it is a fantastic mushroom producer. There are two others, one in Carbury, County Kildare and another in Wexford. All three have taken onto themselves overall production of and access to compost and small producers' produce must be marketed through them. That is unfair practice about which I hope the Minister of State can do something, perhaps through An Bord Glas, thereby giving small producers greater confidence in the marketing of their produce and a greater return on their investment.

I spoke to a man last evening who had invested in three tunnels located on part of his farmland where two members of his family are engaged in mushroom production. That activity yielded a gross margin of £2,500 last year. He is an efficient producer whose greatest costs are energy-related. If we are serious about maintaining smaller producers, we must subsidise their energy costs and, since there is considerable subsidisation in other areas of activity, it would not create any precedent.

If the work of An Bord Glas was promoted, advertised and subsidised to a greater extent, now that many people are searching for new enterprises, we could ensure much greater valueadded to our produce and have it processed here. One can observe on the shelves of any supermarket today frozen vegetables, potatoes, chips, cauliflowers, carrots, the vast majority of which are imported. If our producers cannot obtain a grant for import substitution, as is applicable in other areas of industrial activity — bearing in mind the cost of industrial job creation, whether in the high-tech, manufacturing or other sector — they will not be able to compete. We should support the production and processing of our agricultural produce, such as mushrooms, by way of grant, and make it known that we will support applicants. In this respect a whole new endeavour in advertising and promotion is required, particularly since agencies such as the IDA and Forbairt have done very little in the promotion and processing of agricultural produce and accompanying job creation.

In addition, our educational system has turned its back on agriculture and horticulture. Other than courses provided in universities I have not seen any course listed, other than part-time ones, in which people can participate in the horticultural sector. I suppose the only exceptions would be those held at the National Botanic Gardens or in one of the agricultural colleges providing such courses on an extremely limited budget. It is essential that this area be opened up in the future so that our rural population can be maintained and the Government of the day seen to positively support agriculture, in particular horticulture, as a means of allowing rural communities to develop.

I congratulate An Bord Glas, its chairman, chief executive officer and members on the work they undertake within very obvious restrictions. I hope the Minister of State will open up a new beginning to them and others involved in this overall sector, demonstrating that it is considered to be a very viable one with enormous potential for the future.

I am glad to have an opportunity of contributing to these statements and of wishing well the Minister of State, with special responsibility in this area.

Members' comments reflect numerous opinions on the horticultural industry expressed outside the House over a considerable period. Many observations have their origins in the fact that we appear to have huge volumes of imports. Given our certain perceived climatic advantages we should be able to produce such crops ourselves.

Having spent some time involved with the industry and served a short while in the portfolio now held by the Minister of State, I disabused myself of many of those views and notions held sincerely by many outside the industry, certainly those outside the whole realm of direct involvement in the industry, endeavouring to market its produce and make a living from it.

The decision to establish An Bord Glas on an interim basis and subsequently on a statutory basis was born out of the perhaps justifiable belief that, since there was significant support available to many mainline enterprises in agriculture, the horticultural sector was perceived to be the "Cinderella factor" within the overall sphere of agriculture. There was very little, if any support, available to potato growers, to field vegetable producers and many others in the industry.

Deputy Deasy reflected on and recounted his experiences, as a former Minister for Agriculture. He said many involved in the horticultural sector for example in apple growing moved into more lucrative milk production.

Of its very nature the industry is labour-intensive, a fact clearly reflected in the Minister's comments. Unfortunately, a high proportion of its employment-generation is part-time or casual in nature. Nonetheless it plays a significant economic role in certain rural areas, where there are many smallholdings whose mushroom enterprises provide a supplementary income. One example is the women who pick them, leaving for home before their children return from school. The income derived from such casual employment is of considerable overall benefit to many households.

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