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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 12 May 1999

Vol. 504 No. 5

Other Questions. - Employment Action Plan.

John Gormley

Question:

28 Mr. Gormley asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment if she has satisfied herself that the employment action plan developed to provide youth employment is adequate in view of the findings in the INOU bulletin (details supplied) that only 20 per cent who took part in interviews by FÁS obtained employment compared with 41 per cent employment action plan participants who found jobs without attending FÁS interviews; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [12283/99]

Thomas P. Broughan

Question:

30 Mr. Broughan asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the position regarding persons interviewed under the employment action plan who do not get placed in training or work; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [10339/99]

Derek McDowell

Question:

36 Mr. McDowell asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the number of persons interviewed to date under the employment action plan; the number placed on FÁS courses; the number of these who subsequently found work; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [12209/99]

Ivor Callely

Question:

74 Mr. Callely asked the Tánaiste and Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment the progress and success of the employment action plan; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [12308/99]

I propose to take Questions Nos. 28, 30, 36 and 74 together.

The latest monthly report on the employment action plan, report No. 6, which is available in the Oireachtas Library, shows the outcomes for the 6,010 young unemployed persons who have been referred to date for supports under the plan. By the end of March 3,583, or 60 per cent, had been interviewed by FÁS. Of these, 1,343 or 37 per cent were placed by FÁS. Of the balance of 2,200, some 640 have already left the live register, 825 are awaiting training or are receiving ongoing FÁS support, a further 450 have dropped out and have been referred back to the Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs while the remainder are not yet ready to progress. With regard to those placed by FÁS, the latest data indicate that 56 per cent are placed in jobs and the remainder in FÁS training programmes or in education.

The progress report shows that a relatively steady proportion, accounting for approximately 8 per cent of interviewees, are not ready to progress into jobs or training. There is a number of reasons for this, including substance abuse, health issues and advanced state of pregnancy. Currently, an exercise is under way to determine the proportionate incidence of these with a view to designing appropriate rehabilitative or pre-employment programmes.

The data used by the INOU do not compare like with like and I am perplexed as to why they seemingly want to put the worst complexion on what are generally recognised to be positive outcomes.

Monthly report No. 6 provides the best objective overview of the outcome of the whole process. Key outcomes are the fact that by the end of March, some 56 per cent of all referrals had left the live register. Furthermore, some 80 per cent of those referred in September last, when the process first started, have now left the live register. Some 82 per cent of FÁS interviewees left the live register for positive reasons – 47 per cent for a job, 29 per cent for a training programme and 6 per cent to go back education. This compares well to the outcomes for those who did not attend for interview and subsequently left the live register, of whom 37 per cent went to a job. It is not surprising, given the current buoyant labour market, that young persons who did not attend the interview found a job as many of them would have been seeking employment and would have found a successful outcome themselves.

Will the Tánaiste explain how the mechanics of this works? How is one selected for interview and to what extent is the person monitored and tracked thereafter? Do the interviewers welcome the fact that a certain percentage do not attend interview and leave the live register? Do we know why they left the live register or is it the attitude that this does not matter and attention is given to those who attend for interview?

The Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs writes in the first instance to every person under the age of 25 years once they are six months unemployed. The two computer systems are interlinked. The Department invites them to make contact with FÁS with a view to attending an interview. A placement officer in FÁS then interviews the person, who can be interviewed a number of times. In some of the offices I have attended, people have been interviewed a number of times. If they are suitable for employment, they are referred to a job.

The idea is to assess their wishes and to seek to find a way to solve a problem in line with them. If an immediate job is required some of the jobs available are matched to the needs of the interviewee. If a job is not available or is not suitable they are referred to a training programme and, in some instances, referred back to education. Some have had to await a suitable opportunity. Those who do not attend an interview are sent a second letter because there may be reasons for their failure to attend. They then become the responsibility of the Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs.

After six months we have an analysis of the first cohort of people that were dealt with in September. It shows that 80 per cent had left the live register for positive reasons – to access a job or training or go back to education. The remaining 20 per cent fall into the categories to which I referred. Some are on substance abuse, some may be pregnant and some may not be suitable for employment for whatever reason. The Department of Social, Community and Family Affairs follows up these to determine who they are and their needs.

This scheme of intervening with those under 25 years of age is working for a number of them. Will the Tánaiste indicate the percentage of those called under the scheme that has not attended interview? I find the figures confusing and am not surprised the INOU is having difficulty working them out. Will the Tánaiste indicate what happens to those still being handled by FÁS? When the scheme was introduced last September the statistics indicated that a number of people are being handled by FÁS. How many has the scheme identified as unemployable?

Approximately 8 per cent are included in the category I have referred to as not job ready. This category also includes those who are not ready to attend training programmes.

Approximately 8 per cent of how many?

I do not know the total.

Is it 30,000?

I will get the precise figures for the Deputy, I only have percentages before me. A large proportion do not show for interview. Some indicate they are already in employment and do not need assistance. When letters are circulated, approximately 56 per cent sign off the live register.

The Tánaiste hopes they are taking up work.

Written answers follow Adjournment Debate.

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