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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 20 May 1999

Vol. 505 No. 2

Other Questions. - Army Barracks.

Bernard J. Durkan

Question:

9 Mr. Durkan asked the Minister for Defence the position regarding the various military installations, the closure of which he announced in July 1998; the extent to which objectives have been realised in relation to each location; the extent, if any, to which the closed facilities have been replaced, relocated or replicated elsewhere; the costs associated with these closures to date; the net benefit of the closures one year after the event; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [13301/99]

Bernard J. Durkan

Question:

102 Mr. Durkan asked the Minister for Defence the extent to which the objectives set out in the Price Waterhouse report have been realised following the closure of a number of military installations; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [13422/99]

I propose to Questions Nos. 9 and 102 together.

The Government, on 15 July 1998, approved a programme of evacuation and sale of six barracks which are considered surplus to military requirements. The barracks in question are located at Fermoy, Ballincollig, Naas, Kildare, Castleblayney and Clancy Barracks, Dublin. With the exception of Clancy Barracks which will be vacated by 1 July 2000, the other five barracks have been evacuated.

The decision to close barracks was part of the relocation, refurbishment and re-equipment of the Defence Forces, as recommended in the context of the Price Waterhouse report regarding the rationalisation of military installations generally. The purpose of the decision was to remove from the Defence Forces the burden imposed by manning and maintaining unnecessary installations and to effect savings in relation to security and maintenance costs at the locations concerned.

It was also designed to release troops for operational duties which would have a positive impact on the security duty capacity of the Defence Forces and free up resources for necessary re-equipment. Price Waterhouse consultants commented that "security military tasks" were the highest consumer of military manpower at home. Essentially, this activity is concerned with the military guarding or otherwise securing its facilities. Troops engaged in this activity are not available for operational tasks. The high level of manpower involved in this area is partly a function of the excessive number of facilities occupied. All personnel affected by the closures were re-assigned to other posts or were offered voluntary early retirement if they satisfied eligibility criteria.

It is expected that up to £50 million will be raised from the sale of the barracks and major projects to provide operational, living and recreational accommodation, estimated to cost £30 million, are already under way mainly in the Curragh camp and Collins Barracks, Cork.

The cost of providing security at the vacated barracks amounts to £386,462 to date. On security duty allowances alone, the military authorities have estimated that savings to date amount to more than £250,000. In addition, there have been significant savings on utilities such as telephone and electricity charges which approximate to £25,000 in the case of Murphy Barracks, Ballincollig, for a six month period.

Arising from a request from the Department of Foreign Affairs for accommodation to house the Kosovan refugees, I offered the Department the opportunity to inspect the five vacated barracks to check out their feasibility or otherwise for the accommodation of the refugees. Currently Magee Barracks, Kildare, is being used for this purpose on a temporary basis and the question of using Castleblayney for a similar purpose is under examination.

Additional information.

Arrangements for the sale of the barracks are proceeding and I expect to bring the process to fruition in the coming months. Deputies will appreciate that such matters, of necessity, take time and that the availability for sale of barracks occupied on a temporary basis for the accommodation of refugees will depend on a resolution of the Kosovo situation.

Having regard to the objectives set out in Price Waterhouse, I remain committed to the development of the Defence Forces as a modern and effective organisation staffed and equipped to meet the challenges of the 21st century and I emphasise that the decision to close and dispose of the barracks in question is to enhance the training, accommodation, equipment and, hence, the professionalism of the Defence Forces.

One element of the question was the replacement of facilities elsewhere and the Minister indicated that the Curragh Camp and Collins Barracks in Cork are two of those concerned. Is he aware that, contrary to what he undertook to do at the announcement of the closure of Magee Barracks, the accommodation required has not been provided at the Curragh; and that one unit, comprising 100 personnel, must use six offices in the Curragh without any facilities? What plans does he have to sort this out?

Any fair minded evaluation of what happened in the Curragh since last year would show there was an extraordinarily speedy outcome to the work. When I visited the Curragh last August ten contracts were ongoing, five more were about to be signed and it was a hive of activity. I compliment the staff and the leadership provided by the military authorities in the Curragh for what I consider to be one of the best and fastest approaches to meeting the heavy demand arising from the closure of Magee Barracks in Kildare. I cannot say that everything is complete but a fantastic job was done speedily. I will examine what the Deputy said about the final parts of the accommodation. Given the location of the Curragh and its opportunities for future development, I am conscious that it needs more refurbishment and investment. This is being provided, including a swimming pool, etc. For the UN and other activities significant investment must be made there. As Deputy Dukes knows as a representative of that area, a lot of work has been done in 12 months.

It was to have been finished by February.

Do the closures announced in July 1998 complete the Minister's agenda of military barracks for closure? To put the question clearly—

Do not be parochial; try to be national.

I will be parochial because the Minister is also from Tipperary. Can I tell the people of Clonmel that Kickham Barracks will not be closed while he is Minister for Defence?

He has already given me that assurance.

I know the position in South Tipperary is competitive. At lunch today I answered the Minister of State, Deputy Davern, 20 minutes ago I answered Deputy Ferris and now I answer Deputy Ahearn. She can rest at ease.

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