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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 1 Jun 1999

Vol. 505 No. 6

Priority Questions. - House Prices.

Eamon Gilmore

Question:

16 Mr. Gilmore asked the Minister for the Environment and Local Government the information available to his Department on the likely level of increase in prices for new and second-hand houses during 1999; if his attention has been drawn to the forecast by an economist (details supplied) that house prices will rise, on average, by 20 per cent in 1999; the average price of a new house and a second-hand house in Dublin based on the figures available to his Department; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [14352/99]

I am aware of the forecast referred to by the Deputy and, while my Department does not publish projections of future house price levels, there is strong evidence that the range of measures being taken by the Government to remove over-heating in the housing market and accelerate housing supply is working.

I expect that the forecast referred to may have been prepared before the very large increase in housing output in the first quarter of 1999 was known. New house completions for the first three months of 1999 were 24 per cent higher than in the same period last year. Most significantly, there was a 28 per cent increase in output in Dublin where housing output had been relatively sluggish in recent years.

House price statistics for the March quarter 1999 are currently being finalised and will be published shortly. Provisional data indicates that the average price in Dublin for the March 1999 quarter is in the region of £142,000 for new houses and £150,000 for second-hand houses. These figures are derived from all loan approvals which will include some very expensive houses in premium locations. The average price paid by first time purchasers is significantly lower.

The provisional figures for the March quarter reveal some encouraging trends. In particular, Dublin secondhand house prices, which have been the leading indicator of price trends for a number of years, suggest an increase of 1 per cent and a total increase of only 2 per cent over the last six months.

I am confident that the trend of house price moderation will be further reinforced as the effects of measures taken to increase the supply of housing and the availability of affordable housing, including the serviced land initiative, promotion of increased densities, the new local authority affordable housing scheme and use of temporary treatment facilities to bring forward housing development, become increasingly evident.

We are now half way through 1999. Can the Minister of State tell the House by how much he and the Department expect house prices to rise in 1999?

I have already informed the Deputy that the Department and I are not in the business of making such forecasts.

The Minister of State is not in business, full stop.

I can give him accurate figures for the returns from the lending agencies with regard to average house prices, nationally and in the Dublin area. I am satisfied there is strong evidence of a moderation in the house price increases we have experienced in recent years.

It is difficult to accept such generality from the Minister of State since it echoes what he said this time last year. Since then, house prices have increased by 22 per cent. Is the Minister of State saying his Department does not know by how much house prices will increase this year or that it has no estimate of the increase? If economists are in a position to give an estimate of the increase in house prices, it is not unreasonable to ask the Minister of State and the Department with responsibility for housing to indicate to the House by how much they expect house prices to rise this year.

I do not see it as my role to speculate about these matters. My role is to introduce measures which will help stabilise prices in the housing market. I am satisfied the measures we have taken to date are having an effect and that the measures which are due to come into effect will further improve the position.

Given that house prices have increased by 60 per cent since the Minister of State was appointed to office voicing similar predictions and expectations, on what basis are we to believe that the situation will improve over the rest of this year and in forthcoming years? Will the Minister of State outline what income a couple would require to pay the average price for a first time buyer's home?

I answered the question which was put to me—

The Minister of State answered a different question.

—with regard to the likely level of increase in house prices. If the Deputy wishes to raise other questions he may do so on another occasion.

The Minister of State quoted average prices of £142,000 for new houses and £150,000 for secondhand houses and indicated that the average house price for first time buyers is less. He is aware of the formula which is used by lending agencies to extend loans to first time buyers. It is a reasonable calculation and I would expect him to have information on what income threshold would be required to enable somebody to buy a house. Will he confirm, for example, that two teachers with a salary of £20,000 per annum each cannot now afford to buy a new house?

I explained to the Deputy that the average price includes prices for houses which might have cost up to £1 million. We are interested in affordable housing and the cost of houses to first time purchasers. These people are my main concern. The lending agencies analyse their figures and publish their results. The index published by the Irish Permanent puts the average price of a house for first time buyers nationally at £86,885 in April 1999.

The time for this question has expired. We must proceed to Question No. 17.

Mr. Hayes

That is not the price in Dublin.

Where are those houses?

The Deputy should ask the Irish Permanent. People are living happily in them.

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