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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 26 Jan 2000

Vol. 513 No. 1

Priority Questions. - House Prices.

Eamon Gilmore

Question:

75 Mr. Gilmore asked the Minister for the Environment and Local Government the percentage increase in the average price of new and second hand houses from the period September 1998 to September 1999; the indices for private new house prices and house building costs; the reason house prices have increased dramatically compared to house building costs; the measures, if any, he will take to bring house prices under control; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [1603/00]

The information sought is available in the housing statistics bulletin for the September quarter 1999, published by my Department and available in the Oireachtas Library. The indices for private new house prices and house building costs measure different factors. The house price index measures changes in private new house prices which reflect the supply and demand for housing. The national house building cost index relates solely to standard wage rates set by the National Joint Industrial Council for the Construction Industry and average market prices for construction materials and does not include items such as development land prices, planning and development levies, planning fees, legal fees, marketing costs or profits, which are reflected in house prices and any house price index. The Deputy has also chosen to ignore the index for mortgage rates in the bulletin.

Housing demand has grown phenomenally in recent years due to a number of factors, including strong economic growth, historically low interest rates, increasing employment, rising levels of disposable income, and demographic changes, including high immigration and growth in the key household formation age groups. The Government strategy to moderate house price increases is based, therefore, on increasing the supply of housing. It has implemented a comprehensive range of initiatives to this end and these measures are having an effect. The trend in house price increases is moderating. Record housing output was again achieved in 1999 with new house completions nationally up more than 10% in the first 11 months of 1999 over the same period in 1998. Significantly, in Dublin, where the supply demand imbalance was most critical, the increase in output was running at 16%.

In my 11 years in the House that is the most astonishing reply to a parliamentary question that I have heard. I am well aware that the figures are published in the housing statistics bulletin and I know what the indices mean. The intention of my question was to get the Minister of State to put those figures on the record of the House. He has told us for the past 12 months that house prices have been levelling off. Is he ashamed to come into the House and admit that average house prices have increased by more than 21% during that period? Will he also accept that the pathetic efforts he has made in regard to housing have failed given that house prices have continued to increase? Will he do anything to bring prices under control?

I have not used the words "levelling off", I used the word "moderating".

A rate of 21% is some moderate increase.

Please allow the Minister of State to reply.

There is no problem. These figures have been published. I have issued press statements. The Deputy is aware of the figures but I will repeat them if he wishes as long as I am not limited by the Chair in giving an extended reply.

Give the figures.

Mr. Hayes:

Tell the House.

Put it on the record.

House price statistics for the September quarter 1999 contained in the housing statistics bulletin show a number of positive trends in house prices, for example, the annual rate of increase in new house prices—

Come off it. This is nonsense. I asked a statistical question but I am not getting a statistical answer.

The Deputy will have an opportunity to ask a supplementary question, time permitting. The Minister is in possession and should be allowed to make his statement.

Mr. Hayes:

The Minister is an old hand at waffling.

The Minister is abusing the privilege of the House.

If the Deputy allows me to answer I will give the figures. As I said, they are published and I have used them publicly on at least a dozen occasions. The annual rate of increase in new house prices was 21.6% nationally and 21.9% in Dublin which is well below the peak rates of 27% and 37% respectively in early 1998 prior to the publication of the first Bacon report and the action on house prices taken by the Government. The September quarter cost price indices for new house prices and house building costs stood at 226 and 133 respectively, showing increases over the four quarters of 21.5% and 6.4% respectively. As I said, the house prices and house building indices measure different things. It is not correct to make the assumption, as the Deputy has, that there is a direct link between them. As we know, the items I have mentioned, which were not included, have a major effect on the price of a house in the open market, including profits. The best and only sensible way to deal with the huge demand for housing and the market taking advantage of that by increasing prices is to increase supply. This has been pointed out in every economic report on housing. We will continue to do that and take whatever measures we can to ensure the system facilitates an increase in the output of new housing. Any suggestion the Deputy has to make regarding steps we should take to increase the output will receive every consideration.

The time for this question has expired. We will now proceed to Question No. 76.

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