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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 27 Jan 2000

Vol. 513 No. 2

Adjournment Debate. - Criminal Trial Collapse.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for allowing a debate on this matter on the Adjournment. I am very conscious of the sensitivities involved here. There is a serious case still before the courts and I certainly have no views on the guilt or innocence of the accused person nor do I intend to comment in any way on any of the evidence heard by the court.

However, it is a matter of the utmost concern that a major trial of this nature should have been caused to collapse, reportedly because discussions of the jury could be overheard in the public gallery of the court. This was the ninth day of this major trial. One can only guess at the cost in terms of the time of the lawyers, court officials, gardaí and others, money which has now been effectively wasted as a result of this incident. The time and commitment of the members of the jury have – through no fault of their own – also been wasted.

I accept that the judge acted properly in dis charging the jury and probably had no alternative once the matter was drawn to her attention. However, it is alarming that this could have happened; the danger of it happening should have been foreseen and it is absolutely essential that steps should be taken to ensure it never happens again.

The confidentiality of the jury room is sacrosanct. It is already difficult to get people to serve on juries; what chance will there be to get people to serve if they fear that the views they express in the jury room could be overheard? In the recent past there has been a number of very high profile jury trials involving senior gangland figures on serious charges. If the deliberations had been overheard in a case like that it would have left identifiable jury members open to threats, intimidation or even retribution. Of course, we have no way of knowing for certain whether discussions of previous juries may have been overheard.

From what we know of the circumstances of this case, it appears that a fire door was installed in the jury room which opened on to the public gallery. The gallery was apparently only being used because of the particular interest in this case and it was only then that it was discovered conversations could be overheard. Surely it should be standard procedure that where alterations are made to a jury room, tests are carried out to check if the changes have had any impact on the security of the room.

This incident again highlights the totally inadequate condition of many of our courtrooms. The Four Courts is a magnificent building to look at with a wonderfully impressive Round Hall, but the conditions in many of the individual courtrooms are Dickensian. During this particular case there was considerable comment about the discomfort in the courtroom caused by the heat due to overcrowding. There was a power cut in the Four Courts complex shortly before Christmas as a result of the overloading of the electricity supply and a distinguished High Court judge subsequently announced that he was going home and was going to stay there because there was no heating in his chambers.

The Four Courts is in the luxury category compared to some court buildings around the country. Leaking, draughty, insanitary and rodent infested buildings are too much the norm. The Court Services Board is still in its infancy. It has impressive plans to improve the efficiency of the courts, including improving the flow of information through the Internet, but one of its first priorities must be to embark on an intensive programme of improvement of courtrooms and court buildings.

This case also focuses attention on the way jurors are treated. Being asked to determine guilt or innocence in serious criminal cases is an enormous burden to carry. We should at a minimum try to ensure that they are allowed to do their duty in conditions of safety and comfort.

It is getting difficult to get people to serve on juries. This is understandable. Jurors can be asked to commit several weeks of their time. It can lead to disruption of personal lives and cause work problems. Those who can avoid jury service usually do so. This is not desirable as it can lead to juries who are not representative of society generally.

I have spoken to people who served on juries in the Central Criminal Court who said that when they were called for the initial jury empanelling, hundreds of potential jurors were crammed into a tiny courtroom waiting to see if their names would be called. People who would be later called to serve on a jury were in some cases crammed up against people they would later be trying. In another case I was told of jury members being put into a tiny room which was already crammed full of boxes of dusty documents and filing cabinets, where they had to spend long hours – not just when they were making their decision but also during prolonged legal arguments in their absence. At least jurors in criminal cases get their lunch at the expense of the State. Those serving as jurors in civil cases do not even get the price of a bag of crisps.

Finally, I ask the Minister to ensure that a full investigation is held into how this particular incident was allowed to happen; that steps are taken to ensure it never happens again; that a review of all courts and jury rooms is carried out and that we look at the way in which we treat jury members.

At the outset I would like to point out that the trial proceedings affected by this incident are still ongoing and I am very conscious of the need to be mindful of that fact in dealing with the matter before the House.

This matter comes within the responsibility of the Courts Service, which I established on 9 November 1999 to carry out a variety of functions related to the courts, including the administration of the courts and the provision, management and maintenance of court buildings. I have asked the Courts Service for a report on this incident and I have received a preliminary account on foot of which I have requested that a full and comprehensive investigation be carried out into this matter. I am quite prepared to make a further report to the House in due course at a more appropriate time should the House wish me to do so.

I have been informed by the Courts Service about the circumstances which led to the incident. The trial in question was being heard in court 3 and commenced on 12 January. On Tuesday, 25 January, after the hearing had finished for the day, a court usher brought to the attention of the Court Registrar that persons sitting in the overflow public gallery in the balcony of the courtroom could hear muffled voices from the jury room. I am informed that what were heard were muffled voices. The Court Registrar immediately directed that the gallery be closed to the public. The following morning, 26 January, the Court Registrar notified the presiding judge, Hon. Miss Justice Mella Carroll. When the court resumed counsel for the prosecution requested the judge to open the overflow public gallery to accommodate witnesses and the judge so directed. On resuming after lunch the judge requested counsel for both sides to meet with her in her chambers. Following this meeting the judge returned to court and discharged the jury and instructed them not to discuss the case with the media.

When a new jury is empanelled the case will be tried in court 4, the jury room of which is not in proximity to an area to which the public has access.

The Courts Service carried out an immediate investigation into the circumstances surrounding the situation whereby it was possible to hear sounds from the jury room. The overflow public gallery in court 3 had been closed since the early 1970s and by and large remains closed to the general public. The overflow public gallery in Court 3 was opened in this case because of the large number of witnesses and the very significant public interest in the case. Usually the public are accommodated in the general body of the courtroom.

For health and safety reasons a major refurbishment of the Four Courts was undertaken between 1994 and 1996 and, as part of this work, on the recommendation of the Office of Public Works, an emergency exit, involving heavy fireproof doors, for the rooms attached to courts 2 and 3 was installed at one end of the overflow public galleries. I am informed that immediate steps are now being taken to ensure that the soundproofing of these doors is adequate to guarantee the confidentiality of jury deliberations and the privacy of jury discussions. In the interim the overflow public galleries in courts 2 and 3 will remain closed.

As regards the cost to the State, this is directly related to the number of days sitting and the legal fees payable by the State in addition to the time and other costs of the members of the Garda Síochána, court officers and other expenses involved in this case. Before the discharge of the jury the case was at hearing for 11 days. It is difficult at this stage to estimate the cost of the aborted trial but I hope to be in a position to provide more information to the House on this aspect in due course.

Following discussions between officials of my Department and the Courts Service, I am assured that the Courts Service is taking all necessary steps to ensure that there will be no recurrence of the events which led to the collapse of this trial. While from time to time juries have been discharged, the House will be well aware that the courts are, subject only to the Constitution and the law, independent in the exercise of their judicial functions and it is not open to me to comment or intervene in any way on the conduct or decision of any individual court case which is a matter entirely for the presiding judge. We are, of course, always grateful to people who serve on juries. It can be very inconvenient for people to have to sit for days on end on a jury, but jury service is a civic duty and to that extent it is compulsory. Nonetheless it is very important that, in the course of a trial, accommodation is made available so that juries do not have to sit in the conditions described by Deputy Howlin. I assure the House that I will do all I can to ensure that juries are treated as they are entitled to expect.

The Dáil adjourned at 5.30 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Tuesday, 2 February 2000.

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