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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 25 May 2000

Vol. 519 No. 7

Adjournment Debate. - Job Initiative.

It is mystifying to try to understand what is happening in the Tánaiste's Department and why the Tánaiste has been unable to clarify the future of the jobs initiative scheme for a number of months now. This is a good scheme which was targeted especially at the over-35s who had been out of work for five years or longer and as such was focused on a group, many of whom thought they might never re-enter the work force Despite variations in its operation, it is agreed that it has been a good scheme. These people are guaranteed three years employment at the rate for the job and it offers a way back into the work force that many of these people thought might never be open to them again.

I was associated with the creation of the scheme and for that reason, I have taken a particular interest in it. There are many people in my constituency who have started work again as a result of this scheme. The first phase of those people were due to conclude their three years last December. In the interim, the Tánaiste had commissioned, as all Ministers now do, Deloitte & Touche or whatever group of consultants of which one can think, to assess the scheme. I would have thought that if one met a few people in The Square in Tallaght or talked to the ushers on the way into the Department, they could tell one the merits of the scheme from sitting on the barstool in the pub. However, that is the way we do things now. She received the Deloitte & Touche report and while she was contemplating what to do about it, she reasonably extended the life of the first batch of workers for six months from last December. This means that almost 600 people are due to have their employment terminated next month.

I have raised this on several occasions, by way of an Adjournment matter, parliamentary ques tion and so on. I warned that this situation would arise and that there was a need to think out clearly the future of this programme and we still have not managed to achieve any clarity on it. I raised it with the Tánaiste on the Order of Business this morning. I welcomed what she said but on studying it, it does not amount to any more than an aspiration to be positive and to prevent these people becoming unemployed. That does not answer many of the questions posed by the people concerned. I hope that if the Minister of State, Deputy Ryan, is standing in for the Tánaiste, he will be in a position to clarify these matters now.

During Question Time on the Thursday before Easter, the Tánaiste told me that her decision would be available and the report would be available to me that weekend, which was Easter weekend. I have tried to obtain it every second day since then. I still have not received it. I understand there was a meeting with the social partners, the real Government, on Monday and that the Minister has gone back to the drawing board to rewrite some sections of the report. There are people involved who want to know what will happen to them. Some of their employment situations are quite complex. They do not want to stay forever on the jobs initiative scheme. Ideally, they would like to progress. That is not feasible in all cases for a variety of reasons and they want to know what the future holds for them. With regard to the question of roll-over, the Department made certain promises, but we do not know who is eligible for roll-over. We do not know who, if anybody, is eligible for redundancy. Different sponsors take different positions. One sponsor said such workers are entitled to redundancy and the workers taken on by that sponsor were told that on recruitment, while another employer, who has taken legal advice on the matter, said such workers are not eligible for redundancy. We do not know what supports will be in place to facilitate the progression of those workers into mainstream employment. We do not know if the sponsors will continue to operate the programme if the current participants must be let go and new entrants recruited.

We do not know what happens various social economy projects, which are complex and do meaningful work that involves the acquisition of necessary skills. Now that people have only acquired the necessary skills and these projects are up and running on a fragile enough basis, it is suggested that those participating in the programmes must make way for a new batch of entrants. A number of detailed questions need to be answered. I hope the Minister of State can indicate the future of this programme and when we will know the detailed answer to the myriad of questions that arise so that the people concerned can be reassured.

I agree with the Deputy that this is a good scheme and it has worked well in many areas around the country. The job initiative programme is a three year work experience programme for persons who have been unemployed for five years or longer. The programme is available for persons over 35 years of age who are in receipt of unemployment assistance, unemployment benefit or one parent family payment.

An evaluation of the programme was carried out by Deloitte & Touche consultants in 1999, who made a number of key recommendations on its future operation. These recommendations have been discussed in detail with the social partners, relevant Departments and other interest groups in recent months. The discussions have been useful and they are reflected in the guidelines I approved today for issue to FÁS on the future operation of the programme.

The guidelines contain a number of elements. There will be greater emphasis in future on progression to open labour market employment in the context of its operating as an active labour market programme. That has been the case to date. Greater importance will be attached to providing work experience, training and core personal skills development and enhanced assistance from the employment services for job seeking in the open labour market. It is intended that workers on the programme will receive personal guidance from a specific employment service case officer with the task of enhancing and progressing an individual's employment prospects. Workers on the programme will be given an opportunity to build on their experience on the programme, avoiding a situation whereby they simply return to the live register.

The new procedures will ensure that the 600 workers currently in phase one places, who are due to complete the programme this year, are presented with a range of further training employment options by FÁS and the local employment service. This will include, where appropriate, workers remaining on the programme for a further limited period to be decided locally by FÁS in consultation with the sponsors. The programme will continue to be targeted at those most removed from the labour market, those over 35 years of age who are unemployed for five years or more. It will be continued for the foreseeable future at its current level of 2,875 places, subject to close monitoring and review in the context of changing labour market conditions.

Access to the programme will be extended to qualified adults and adult dependants of persons meeting the criteria for the jobs initiative, as recommended in the report of the P2000 working group on women's access to labour market opportunities. The programme will be attuned more closely to the needs of the local economy with greater emphasis, through more active involvement of the LES, on employment being regularly appraised of the skills and competence of JI workers.

In addition to the above measures, it is intended that the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment will prepare proposals as soon as possible based on a report that will examine, identify and develop appropriate supports to meet the needs of those people who, because of age, literacy and barriers, are unlikely to succeed in getting and keeping a job in the open labour market. This report will be considered by the Standing Committee on the Labour Market under the Programme for Prosperity and Fairness.

A number of the consultants' recommendations on increasing the effectiveness of the jobs initiative as an active labour market programme have been implemented. Correct entitlement to secondary benefits are extended to JI participants at the beginning of April 2000. Entitlement to the back to work allowance was implemented in December 1999.

These guidelines are of immediate interest to those workers who are due to finish at the end of June. Under the terms I approved for the future operation of the jobs initiative, workers on phase one places will be presented with a further range of options which will ensure that they do not simply drift back to the live register and further social exclusion.

I am confident that the overall package of measures I approved will have a very positive effect in terms of an effective, reintegration measure for those who are most distanced from the labour market.

Will the Minister of State supply a copy of his reply.

I apologise. I should have circulated a copy of my reply. I will give the Deputy a copy of it.

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