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Thursday, 29 Jun 2000

Vol. 522 No. 4

Gas (Amendment) Bill, 2000: Report and Final Stages.

I move amendment No. 1:

In page 8, line 45, after "right" to insert "(not being a period that expires after 30 September 2004)".

The provisions of the Bill will enable the selection of power producers who will have the right to contract with BGE for the scarce capacity in the natural gas network that has been reserved for new power generation. The Bill allows BGE and the selected power producers to enter into a contract under normal commercial arrangements. Both parties are free to enter into a contract beyond September 2004 if they agree. The selected power producers may not wish to enter into a contract for a longer period as they might wish to be free to negotiate contracts for capacity with other pipeline operators.

I had intended putting a sunset provision in the regulations. As I explained on Committee Stage in response to a proposed amendment from Deputy Stagg, I am not against the idea of having such a provision in the Bill. Having considered the issue on foot of our discussions on Committee Stage, I propose this amendment. It inserts a provision in section 2(5)(a), specifying that the maximum period for which the rights acquired under the Bill may be enjoyed will be up to 30 September 2004.

I welcome the amendment.

I support the amendment.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment No. 27 is related to amendment No. 2 and amendments Nos. 2 and 27 may be taken together. Is that agreed? Agreed.

I move amendment No. 2:

In page 10, between lines 11 and 12, to insert the following:

"(11) Regulations may provide for the Commission to have such additional functions in connection with capacity on the natural gas network as the Minister sees fit and may include such ancillary provisions in relation to those functions as appear to the Minister to be necessary or expedient.".

On Committee Stage I made a vain attempt to persuade the Minster of State to accept a number of amendments and I am making a repeat attempt here. I am impressed with the Commission for Energy Regulation. It has in-house and independent expertise which should be availed of in the carrying out of this function. This amendment enables the Minister to broaden the remit of the CER to have additional functions with regard to the gas network. It is harmless in so far as it does not remove any authority from the Minister or the Department. It merely provides additional authority. It would be useful to invoke it as a substitute for spending a lot of money on consultants, as has happened with the gas and other studies.

Amendment No. 27 deals with the gas pipelines, which is a critical issue in terms of capacity, the choices to be made in terms of the various proposals from Belfast to Dublin, a second interconnector to Scotland and so on. The effect of the amendment would be to ensure consideration of the purely consultative advice of the CER, which can only be beneficial.

Amendment No. 2 proposes to give the commission additional powers with regard to the capacity of the network and the regulations under the Bill and to provide for other ancillary provisions as the Minister sees fit. Amendment No. 27 proposes the insertion of an additional function for the commission to report to the Minister on strategic considerations for the development of infrastructure in carrying out functions under sections 40 and 40A of the 1976 Act.

Section 40 deals with the construction of pipelines by persons other than BGE, while section 40A is concerned with environmental impact statements only. The commission has no functions under either of these sections. My principal concern in this Bill is the introduction of an allocation scheme for scarce capacity in the gas network and the creation of a level playing field between BGE and private pipeline developers in the natural gas sector.

It is clear from the Bill that the powers to be given to the commission are specific in nature and relate exclusively to the allocation of a fixed amount of scarce asset capacity, which is 3.3 million standard cubic metres per day, sufficient to fuel 800 megawatts of electricity generating capacity. I do not propose to give the commission any additional functions. It is beyond the scope of the Bill. If I accepted these amendments, significant additional amendments would be required, for example, the introduction of provisions to cover the financial and administrative implications of giving the commission such additional functions.

In so far as this Bill is concerned, we are all agreed that time is a luxury. I would prefer to consider in a comprehensive manner the policy issues and practical considerations that would arise from any increase in the commission's functions before I bring forward the legislation that would be necessary to give effect to any such decision. As I explained on Committee Stage, the overall question of granting additional functions to the CER in relation to the regulation of the gas sector would be addressed in the context of the ongoing restructuring of the natural gas sector. The Bill, as amended, provides for the inclusion of ancillary provisions in the regulations under section 11(7).

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Acting Chairman

Amendment No. 4 is related to amendment No. 3, amendment No. 5 is consequential on amendment No. 3, therefore, amendments Nos. 3, 4 and 5 may be taken together. Is that agreed? Agreed.

I move amendment No. 3:

In page 10, lines 16 to 18, to delete all words from and including "as" in line 16 down to and including line 18 and substitute "on which financial closure of project sanction is made on the contract execution for the project;".

Of all the issues I was lobbied on for Committee Stage, this caused the most dissatisfaction. Those lobbying me maintained the whole question of commissioning is fraught with danger. They told me that, in layman's terms, if one was to go to a bank with the present wording, finance would not be granted because there was so much uncertainty over the timing. With regard to the commissioning date being the financial closure of the project, I hope from the grouping of these amendments the Minister of State will propose a more clear-cut definition. I look forward to hearing his arguments and I hope the matter can be resolved.

Commissioning is a process, typically over a six month period, in the course of which plant and all other facilities are progressively tested, leading to a reliability run, again typically for 30 days, only after which the handover of the plant from the EPC contractor to the owner takes place. This has a number of implications. First, firm capacity in both gas and grid connection is an essential prerequisite. An interruptible gas supply would not be acceptable, at least during the liability run. The process is, by its nature, investigative and susceptible to delay and time extension for a wide range of technical or even regulatory reasons over which the developer may have little or no control.

Requiring the CER to make an objective evaluation of the date of the end of commissioning will expose it to requirement for an intimate involvement with the planning and progress of each project, and to criticism, if not legal challenge, of any decisions taken by the CER to change the project milestones, for example. I hope the Minister's amendment, amendment No. 4, will enable me to withdraw these amendments.

These amendments arise from Committee Stage. Deputy Yates made a strong case for them. He withdrew them then on the basis that I would consider whether we could tighten up the definition of commissioning and I hope we may have done that.

These amendments propose to remove the estimated commissioning date as being the first criterion by which applicants may be ranked in order of precedence by the commission and replace it with "financial closure of project sanction made on the contract for the execution for the project".

As I mentioned before, I consider that the text proposed is vague and open to interpretation. In addition, it does not appear to be sufficiently objective to allow for the test of financial closure of project sanction, etc., to be applied or to be measured against independent criteria.

I am advised that in competitions of this type it is important that the selection criteria should be objective and easily measured. The use of the commissioning date and rated generation capacity achieves essential obligations of transparency and objectivity in the selection criteria because they are technical standards.

These amendments would eliminate also ranking by reference to commissioning date. I am advised that during the consultation process on this Bill regarding the selection criteria, none of the independent power producers supported this view. Following our discussions on Committee Stage on this point, I took further soundings from the industry and did not find any support for the regime mooted in these amendments.

In these circumstances, I consider that it is not appropriate to make such a radical alteration in the proposed allocation scheme. However, I undertook on Committee Stage to reflect on the definition of "commissioning" to see if it could be tightened up further. As a consequence, I have brought forward amendment No. 4. This amendment relates to the conditions to be satisfied for the purpose of determining the commissioning date where the applicant is not the person who has constructed the station. The text proposed in this amendment sets out clearly the test to be applied in these circumstances.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

I move amendment No. 4:

In page 11, to delete lines 1 to 3 and substitute the following:

"construction contract concerned and the applicant has taken possession of those construction works.".

Amendment agreed to.
Amendment No. 5 not moved.

I move amendment No. 6:

In page 11, to delete lines 29 to 47 and in page 12, to delete lines 1 and 2.

In the part of the Bill which refers to the eventuality of two applicants being deemed to be identical in the ranking by the legislation, I seek to remove the requirement to allocate gas preferentially to the bigger stations in situations where commissioning dates are deemed identical. This unnecessarily ties the hands of the regulator as a more flexible solution involving more players may be achievable. Putting the biggest first may conflict with the overall desire to promote competition. The more players, de facto the more competition.

The Minister of State rejected the argument on Committee Stage on the grounds that it is unlikely that there would be identical ranking, but if so, why provide for this at all? It covers the situation where there is identical ranking. It is unnecessary because, by definition, if there are two 150 megawatt plants as against one 300 megawatt plant, one will exclude a player who would otherwise be granted a licence. This is really only relevant in a situation where there will be either two or three, or three or four players. It is not necessary.

The effect of the proposed amendment would be to delete "rated generating capacity" as a criterion for distinguishing between applicants with the same commissioning date. While, as Deputy Yates stated, I believe that this is unlikely to occur, it is nonetheless necessary to make provision for such a possibility.

The reasons for choosing "rated generating capacity" as a criterion are that it is a technical standard that can be easily measured and, in the particular circumstances of the Bill, it makes more sense to opt for a larger station that can generate more electricity. For these reasons I do not propose to accept the amendment.

Amendment put and declared lost.

Acting Chairman

Amendment No. 7 is in the name of Deputy Stagg. Amendment Nos. 8, 9, 10 and 11 are alternatives, amendment No. 12 is cognate and amendment No. 13 is an alternative to amendment No. 12. Therefore, amendments Nos. 7 to 13, inclusive, may be discussed together by agreement.

I move amendment No. 7:

In page 12, to delete lines 3 to 15.

With this amendment I seek to do what I sought on Committee Stage. If a station does not fit the competition criteria, I am worried that the commission will have the power to prevent a station being commissioned within the criteria of the Bill. On Committee Stage we had a long discussion on it and the Minister of State suggested that he would look at that and how he might reassure us that the ESB, in this particular case, and Bord Gáis in the other, would not be excluded from partaking in the competition.

I note that while we are taking six amendments together, they are all in Deputy Stagg's my name. There are none in the Minister of State's name, which means that he has not met our point.

I particularly commend amendments Nos. 11 and 13, because they do not throw out the baby with the bath water. They try to allow some flexibility in order that the competition criteria would not exclude the Dublin Bay power.

I fear that this will all end up in the High Court in that if the ESB does not get an option on this gas, it will go to court. I would say that is inevitable.

If the ESB does, the other side will go to court.

I suppose there is an inevitability about it. Whichever way it goes, it will take enough time for the gas to be brought ashore from the west coast or elsewhere.

I will not reiterate the arguments. Amendment No. 8 tries to put a time limit on the commissioning date and the ranking in terms of how far apart they need to be in order for the competition and other criteria to take effect. That might streamline the process a little.

I am in favour of competition in every sector and I make no bones about that. We would not like a situation where the criteria for competition outstripped the criteria for first to market. We are facing the threat of power cuts. I am trying to see where the interests of the ESB meet those of the public and, in the event of power cuts, they meet those interests while not readily meeting the interests of competition. It is a case of balancing the position. These amendments try to bring balance to sections 4 and 5 and perhaps the Minister of State will consider them favourably.

Sitting suspended at 7 p.m. and resumed at 7.30 p.m.

In deference to the Deputies, we had a serious look at these amendments since we discussed them on Committee Stage. In relation to all these amendments, it may be useful to recall that applications are ranked in order of precedence by reference to their respective commissioning dates. The text, as amended on Committee Stage, obliges the commission to have regard to a competition criterion, regardless of the time period separating the applicants' respective commissioning dates, subject always to the overriding consideration of the need to ensure the security and continuity of electricity supplies.

I am, of course, very aware of the concerns that were expressed in relation to this section in the Bill as published originally. I welcome the opportunity provided by these amendments to revisit this important section and reflect further on the issues involved. Having considered and reconsidered the matter, I believe the amendments made to this section on Committee Stage address the concerns raised in a straightforward manner and in a way that is compatible with the objective of the Bill and legal obligations under competition rules.

Deputies may recall that this provision was included in the Bill, in the first instance, because the allocation scheme dealt with the allocation of a scarce resource, that is, scarce gas capacity. The EU electricity and gas directives have entered into force and the electricity market has been opened to competition since last February. The Attorney General has advised me that, in allocating capacity to prospective power producers, the Commission for Electricity Regulation should have regard to competition criteria in selecting winners under the scheme. The competition directorate of the European Commission also expressed this view.

The effect of the Committee Stage amendment to this section is that, while subsection (b) in both sections 4 and 5 is retained, which I think is necessary to comply with competition rules, the overriding consideration is security of supply. Thus, if the commission is of the opinion that security and continuity of electricity supplies in the State would be jeopardised by altering the ranking of applications or excluding an application because of the adverse effect that application would have on the development of competition in the electricity market, then it may not alter the rankings.

Deputy Stagg proposes the deletion of the competition criterion from the selection process. The thrust of Deputy Yates' amendment is that the competition criterion should only be considered in the event there is a period of six months between two applicants' commissioning dates and where granting capacity to the former would mean that the next ranked person could not get capacity at the time of their commissioning date. In these circumstances, the amendments propose that the question of whether granting capacity to the first ranked person would have an adverse impact on competition in the electricity generating market should be considered in accordance with the Electricity Regulation Act, 1999. In addition, Deputy Yates proposes to give the commission discretion in deciding whether to alter the rankings of persons in these circumstances.

I should explain that in carrying out its functions under the 1999 Act, the commission is obliged to have regard to a wider variety of issues. Competition is simply one of those matters and it does not take precedence over other matters that the commission must take into account, for example, non-discrimination, the environment and the needs of rural customers. Introducing a reference to the 1999 Act in this regard would, we believe, complicate the selection process in a way that is both unnecessary and open to interpretation.

I reiterate it is absolutely essential that subsection (b) be retained as drafted at present because of competition rules. However, the Bill, as amended by the committee, ensures that the competition criterion cannot be the overriding concern. The commission will, first and foremost, have to ensure that the State will have enough electricity generating capacity to ensure that demand is met.

For the reasons I have already given in relation to the competition provisions, I cannot accept the introduction of a discretionary power, whereby the commission may decide not to alter the ranking of applicants on competition grounds in sections 4 and 5 as proposed. The commissioning date is decided by reference to technical criteria. It is objective and can be measured. The introduction of the proposed additional rule in relation to the ranking and selection process would, I believe, create ambiguity in a procedure that ought to be objective and transparent. I regret I cannot accept the amendments.

On foot of what the Minister said, I withdraw amendments Nos. 7 and 12.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendments Nos. 8 to 13, inclusive, not moved.

I move amendment No. 14:

In page 13, between lines 36 and 37, to insert the following:

"6.–In its application to any function conferred by this Act, section 9 (functions of Commission) of the Act of 1999 shall be deemed to be amended in subsection (4)(a) by the deletion of 'to promote competition' and the substitution therefor of ‘subject to the subsequent paragraphs of this subsection and in particular paragraph (f) (sustainable energy), to promote competition'.".

We had a long discussion on this issue on Committee Stage. I am well aware of the Minister of State's support for renewable energies. My fear arises from statements made by the regulator that he intends to put a cap on the amount of renewable energy that will be supplied or produced in the name of competition. Has the Minister of State looked at this and can he meet the case?

I thank Deputy Stagg for raising this issue. I stress the importance I attach to the promotion and development of renewable and alternative sources of energy. I know the Deputy and I share a lot of common ground on this issue.

I understand the intention underlying this amendment is not to discriminate in favour of sustainable energy against such interests as the needs of rural customers, the disadvantaged and elderly, but rather because the Deputy has concerns that an imbalance may exist in the relative priority afforded to those duties by the commission. The Deputy is aware that when we enacted the Electricity Regulation Act, 1999, we did so in a manner which does not give any one requirement in section 9 precedence over another. Moreover, in this section we made a clear distinction between the policy functions which are a matter for the Minister, and policy implementation, which rests with the commission. Like Deputy Stagg, I would be very concerned if any adverse impact on the promotion and development of renewable and alternative forms of energy was to arise from the manner in which the Act was being interpreted.

Following our discussions on Committee Stage on this amendment, I directed my officials to clarify the position with the commission and to report back to me. When I have that report, I shall, if necessary, take the matter up with my senior colleague, the Minister for Public Enterprise, who has responsibility for the Electricity Acts.

I reiterate my shared commitment to sustainable energy and assure colleagues that if a problem is identified, I will vigorously pursue that matter. However, if it is established that a problem exists, I believe there are mechanisms within existing legislation to deal with such matters. Amending this Bill, as proposed, would alter the balance between all of the duties of the commission under the 1999 Act and I do not think it is appropriate to do this.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendments Nos. 15 and 16 are related and may be discussed together by agreement.

I move amendment No. 15:

In page 14, between lines 13 and 14, to insert the following:

"(3) The Commission shall consult with the Board before giving a direction to it under this section.".

Section 8 gives the commission for electricity regulation power to give direction to BGE concerning the use and management of the national gas network, solely for the purpose of ensuring that the selected power generators can enjoy the capacity rights awarded to them under the allocation scheme. It is envisaged that the commission will only have to resort to invoking this power in an emergency in order to ensure the selected power producers can avail of their capacity rights.

Members will recall from our discussions on Committee Stage that I concur, in broad terms, with the sentiment of the amendment proposed by Deputy Yates. Therefore, I have brought forward amendment No. 15 which requires the commission to consult with BGE before giving any such direction. This is the best way to address the Deputy's concerns in respect of this section.

Amendment No. 15 is more appropriate because it imposes a positive duty on the commission to consult with BGE before giving it any directions. BGE, as a statutory body, has a number of functions including maintaining and operating the network in order to provide a safe and efficient service for its customers. Accordingly, BGE is well placed to take necessary account of the interests of customers and other key interests such as safety and technical issues and, if necessary, to bring these matters to the attention of the commission.

I support amendment No. 15, to which amendment No. 16 is analogous. Concerns were expressed by BGE that existing users of the network would be obliged to play second fiddle to those conferred with rights under the Bill. I am not sure whether amendment No. 15 deals with that matter. Will the Minister of State indicate whether the matters with which amendment No. 16 deals will be catered for by amendment No. 15, under which the commission is obliged to consult with the board of BGE? Does amendment No. 15 ensure equal treatment for all?

It does.

Amendment agreed to.
Amendment No. 16 not moved.

Amendments Nos. 17 and 18 are related and may be discussed together by agreement.

I move amendment No. 17:

In page 14, line 22, before "(1)", to insert the following:

"(1) Where, in the opinion of the Board it would not be in a position to meet the capacity requirements of a holder of relevant rights, the Board shall not enter into a contract (otherwise than pursuant to section 10) whereby it agrees to make available to any other person the use of an amount of capacity of the natural gas network for the purpose of supplying natural gas to a generating station for the purpose of providing energy for the generation of electricity at that station:

Provided always that the Board shall be entitled to enter into contracts that maintain the gas transmission capacity to the Electricity Supply Board for gas-fired generating stations that have been commissioned to generate electricity before the passing of this Act.".

Section 9, to which this amendment refers, deals with the locking in of contracts. We debated a similar amendment on Committee Stage. Will the Minister of State indicate whether he has had an opportunity to give this matter further consideration?

As the Deputy stated, we debated this matter at length on Committee Stage and the section was altered radically as a result of our discussions. Members may recall the high level of concern in respect of section 9 as originally drafted. However, our combined efforts on Committee Stage have helped to allay those concerns. I appreciate that Deputy Yates may, quite naturally, wish to review the position vis-à-vis section 9 at this point by means of the amendments he has tabled and I welcome the opportunity to reflect further on the section.

Section 9, as amended on Committee Stage, allows BGE, subject to the prior written consent of the commission, to enter into contracts with power stations commissioned after the passing of this Bill which have not acquired capacity rights under it. The section also removes the restriction on BGE contracting with the ESB for capacity or gas for existing power stations. In addition, the new subsection (4) will allow the Minister to lift the restrictions on BGE in relation to contracts for capacity if he or she is satisfied that such contracts would not jeopardise power stations selected for capacity rights under the Bill. I consider that the current text meets the various concerns raised by Members on Committee Stage.

The amendments proposed by Deputy Yates remove the commission's role in supervising new contracts between BGE and power plants commissioned after the passing of the Bill. I am not satisfied that, in the overall scheme of the Bill, it is appropriate to diminish the function of the commission in such a manner. The function of the commission in this section is to ensure that the rights of the selected persons are properly protected. In my opinion, that function ought to be retained. Moreover, amendment No. 18 seems to envisage that the Minister may become involved in BGE's contractual arrangements by means of section 11 of the principal Act.

Section 11 of the principal Act, as amended, envisages a situation whereby the Minister may give general directions on transmission to the board and, with the consent of the Minister for Finance, give general directives with regard to pricing policy. Even if I thought that, as a matter of policy, it would be good for a Minister to become involved in BGE's contractual arrangements, section 11 of the principal Act does not appear to provide an adequate legal basis for such intervention by a Minister in the day to day affairs of this semi-State company.

The amendments made to section 9 on Committee Stage addressed the very real concerns that existed at that point. The current text of the section offers most direct route to solving the earlier problems.

The Minister of State will recall that, on Committee Stage, I indicated that we should be supportive of CHP. Section 9 places a prohibition on Bord Gáis not to enter into any new contracts to provide gas capacity for the purpose of power generation, beyond the allocation envisaged in the Bill, until September 2004. I accept that there is a simple logic about that, but the position vis-à-vis CHP, which has tremendous advantages in terms of efficiency, is unclear as a result.

I only now realise that these points really apply to amendments Nos. 20 and 21 and I will raise them when we reach those amendments.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendment No. 18 not moved.

Amendments Nos. 20 and 21 are consequential on amendment No. 19 and they may be taken together by agreement.

I move amendment No. 19:

In page 15, between lines 35 and 36, to insert the following:

"(6) The terms and conditions specified in any statement referred to in subsection (5) and any contract entered into pursuant to subsection (6) or (7) shall not, save at the express request in writing of the holder concerned made to the Board and subject to the agreement of the Board, provide that capacity of the natural gas network shall be made available by the Board to the holder concerned, or that such holder would be required to accept or use or pay for any such capacity during any period other than the period specified in the regulations as being the period for which the relevant rights of the holder concerned are to be enjoyed.".

The points I raised in respect of amendments Nos. 17 and 18 relate to these amendments and I will allow the Minister of State to reply to them.

During the course of our discussions we uttered many superlatives in respect of CHP, which is a measure of the esteem in which that technology is held.

The board is seeking more than words.

The Deputy is correct. Small-scale CHP is excluded under the definition of generating stations.

What is the Minister of State's response to amendments Nos. 19, 20 and 21?

Amendment No. 19 proposes the insertion of a new subsection in section 10 to provide that the selected persons may not, in effect, be locked into a capacity with BGE, other than for the period set out in the regulations, unless the selected person so requests. Amendments Nos. 20 and 21 are consequential on amendment No. 19.

The three amendments are not necessary because the timeframe for the enjoyment of the exclusive rights to capacity will be specified in the Bill by virtue of amendment No. 1 to which the House agreed earlier. The statutory terms and conditions and BGE's terms and conditions, modified to take account of the statutory terms, should operate to preclude BGE taking advantage of the winners of the competition by locking them into a long-term contract or vice versa.

I consider that the detailed appeals mechanism to the commission and the independent arbiter of this process should be sufficient to prevent abuse by any party. I must emphasise that this appeals system, if required, is available to an aggrieved or concerned party before contracts are signed. Any changes to the terms and conditions of the proposed contract which may be necessary are made on the direction of the commission, again before contracts are signed. On the other hand, it does not preclude the parties, if both sides agree, from entering into the contract for a longer period than that envisaged for the guaranteed rights.

On the conclusion of the period whereby the selected persons have a right to capacity, they must compete equally with other participants in the power generation market for capacity in the BGE network or other gas pipelines which may have come into existence by that time.

Amendment No. 20, which is consequential on No. 19, proposes the insertion of text to allow disputes as to whether the terms and conditions of contracts, as modified by BGE to take account of the statutory terms and conditions, to be referred to the commission. I understand that disputes of this type may be referred to the commission under the Bill as drafted. That may be done, for example, in accordance with section 10(8).

Amendment No. 2, which is also consequential on No. 19, proposes the deletion of the word "nothing" in section 10(12) and its replacement by the words "without prejudice to subsection (6)". In the light of my comments on amendment No. 19, I do not consider amendments Nos. 20 and 21 to be necessary.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendments Nos. 20 and 21 not moved.

Amendments Nos. 22 and 23 are related and may be discussed together by agreement.

I move amendment No. 22:

In page 17, to delete lines 22 to 50, and in page 18, to delete lines 1 to 16.

I am always hopeful when I see one of my amendments grouped with one in the Minister's name, as is the case here. I hope the point I seek to make in this amendment will be met by amendment No. 23.

Deputies will recall the concerns expressed in regard to section 11 as originally drafted. A number of amendments were agreed on Committee Stage which render the bond requirements far less onerous and which, I believed, met our concerns. Under the current provision, I will have the facility to call in a bond in stages rather than on a single occurrence of failure to have the plant capable of exporting electricity on the commissioning date. This allows for a progressive calling in of the bond on a daily basis after the commissioning date. In addition, if capacity rights are forfeited or caused to be forfeited following the commissioning date, liability for bond payments will cease from that date of forfeiture. This will encourage any generator to whom capacity rights have been allocated and who may encounter serious trouble after the commissioning date which he failed to meet to trigger the forfeiture procedure at the earliest possible date.

Deputy Yates is proposing the deletion of the entire bond provision. I firmly believe the bond provision is necessary. This competition is being held in the national interest to ensure the security of our electricity supplies and the requirements outlined in section 11 reflect this fact. In effect, the section is a penalty clause to ensure that successful applicants fulfill their side of the bargain and complete all necessary work within the timeframe they specify in their applications. It is important to bear in mind that it is the applicants themselves who, when submitting their applications, specify the project time scale.

Further to our discussions on Committee Stage, I have tabled amendment No. 23 to include a provision that the bond shall not be payable in the event of force majeure. Consequently, the question of whether the bond is called in is very much in the successful applicants' hands. If these amended bond requirements were to be further diluted, the entire allocation process would be undermined.

I welcome amendment No. 23. I tabled an amendment on Committee Stage which stated "this bond shall only be payable in the event of failure to achieve the agreed targets for the first commercial operation, other than for reasons of force majeure”. I wrote the word “goodwill” in my notes in reference to this amendment.

I hope that was demonstrated to the Deputy's satisfaction.

Wicklow sweetness.

I intend to press my amendment nonetheless to show I fought the good fight but the amendments tabled by the Minister are actually more generous than mine. The formula £5 million x (C/100M) in section 11, where C is the rated generating capacity of the planned generating station expressed in megawatts and M is a megawatt, would result in quite hefty payments. A 400 megawatt plant would be liable to a £20 million payment. That is quite a lot of money; the Minister of State could have halved that formula without breaking his heart. We hope these bonds will never be called in and that everyone will perform satisfactorily. Can I take it that if, as we fear, this could lead to litigation, that would be a circumstance of force majeure?

I welcome the fact that the Minister of State has not over-diluted the bond issue. In fact, he has gone quite as far as he should in this matter. Had he gone any further, I would oppose his amendment.

If we had diluted the bond any further, it would have been meaningless.

Question, "That the words proposed to be deleted stand", put and declared carried.
Amendment declared lost.

I move amendment No. 23:

In page 17, to delete lines 36 to 40 and substitute the following:

"(3) The provision referred to in subsection (1)–

(a) shall provide that if the relevant rights of the person concerned stand forfeited under the provision of the regulations referred to in paragraph (a) or (b) of section 2(6) no amounts shall be payable under the bond referred to in that provision on or after the date of suchforfeiture,

(b) may provide that no amounts or, as the case may be, no further amounts shall be payable under the said bond if the reason for the generating station concerned not being capable of doing, on the date concerned or, as the case may be, at a time subsequent to the date concerned, the thing referred to in subsection (1) is due to force majeure.”.

Amendment agreed to.

I move amendment No. 24:

In page 18, between lines 16 and 17, to insert the following:

"12.–Nothing in this Act shall deny independent power procurers in the electricity generating market from being free to contract with new domestic Irish gas producers at some future date, by mutual agreement, should this be available from a source other than the Board at any time.".

The background to this amendment is very simple; it seeks to allow anybody who might find gas off the west coast to sell that gas and to ensure that IPPs and others would not be locked into a particular situation. The Minister of State said that he would consider this amendment prior to Report Stage. He made the point on Committee Stage that there was nothing in the Act to prevent what I am seeking happening but I would not be proposing the amendment unless someone thought that this matter needed to be clearly stated.

We undertook to examine this issue which we discussed at length on Committee Stage. This amendment proposes the insertion of a new section to the effect that nothing in the Act shall deny independent power procurers from buying gas from new domestic Irish gas production if such a supply of gas should become available from a source other than BGE. There is nothing in the Bill to prevent that happening should a new source of gas become available in Ireland or elsewhere. Accordingly, this amendment would appear to be unnecessary.

I had concerns about the wording of the amendment proposed on Committee Stage in this regard and I still have those concerns. The proposed amendment makes distinctions between new and existing gas producers, domestic sources and foreign sources and between independent power producers, such as the ESB, and other State-owned power producers. A text containing such distinctions would be discriminatory and inappropriate. Moreover, if the amendment were accepted and the Bill enacted, the proposed new section would become law and, notwithstanding the fact that it is unnecessary, it could fall to be interpreted by the courts at some future date.

I consulted with the Office of the Attorney General, as promised, and serious concerns were expressed about the possible impact an amendment of this kind could have on other provisions in the Bill. I reiterate that the amendment is unnecessary and that there is nothing in the Bill to prevent independent power producers buying gas from sources other than BGE should a new source of gas become available in Ireland or elsewhere. In that context, I cannot accept the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

I move amendment No. 25:

In page 20, between lines 13 and 14, to insert the following:

"(2) Section 32(3)(a) of the Act of 1999 is amended by the deletion of ‘High Court which leave shall only be granted where the High Court certifies that its decision' and the substitution therefor of ‘High Court or the Supreme Court which leave shall only be granted where the court certifies that the decision of the High Court'.".

Individuals, corporations and all forms of legal persons are entitled to access to the courts, up to the Supreme Court. I am advised that there is a mistake in section 32(3)(a) in the 1999 Act and that it has the effect of preventing access to the higher level of court. Under the amendment if the High Court refused an application to challenge a decision of the commission an appeal could be made to the Supreme Court. The Minister accepted this correction to the aviation Bill in the Seanad and I hope the Minister of State will do likewise on this Bill.

In support of Deputy Stagg, when dealing with the Electronic Commerce Bill there were two occasions when the Minister read out the reasons the amendment should be rejected and then said she was accepting it.

That is because she loves you, Deputy Yates. She will miss the Deputy very much. I know the high regard in which she holds him.

(Interruptions).

The provisions of the Bill amending the Electricity Regulation Act, 1999, provide that unsuccessful applicants may apply to the High Court for leave to apply for a judicial review within two months of the commission's decision. If the application for leave to apply for judicial review or the actual application for judicial review is turned down by the High Court there is an avenue of appeal to the Supreme Court on points of law of exceptional public importance. This amendment proposes to introduce an additional avenue of appeal to the Supreme Court. Obviously, this would create the potential for delays in the implementation of the allocation process if legal proceedings were to be initiated.

The measures proposed in this amendment are inappropriate in so far as the allocation scheme is concerned. An important element of this scheme is that it provides for certainty both as regards access to capacity and the important timeframe here within which litigation can occur. I am satis fied that the appeal mechanism available to unsuccessful applicants is sufficient for the purposes of this scheme. An additional avenue of appeal could lead to an unduly long delay in the scarce capacity being awarded which ultimately could threaten electricity supplies.

As has been mentioned by Deputy Stagg, I am aware an amendment of this type was accepted to the Aviation Regulation Bill, 2000. As a matter of policy I will examine whether such an appeal mechanism should be provided in the context of legislation which I will bring forward in due course dealing with the restructuring of the natural gas industry. That is the next one we will be talking about. In the context of the very narrow confines of this Bill and because of the importance of not having delays, I do not believe such an amendment is necessary.

I appreciate and understand the Minister's amendment. I am advised there could be a danger of a constitutional challenge because the Bill would limit the right of a legal person to access to the courts. That would delay the procedure even further and is one of the reasons I tabled it.

I was a little worried about the inconsistency involved.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

I move amendment No. 26:

In page 20, between lines 31 and 32, to insert the following:

"(3) The Commission may make recommendations to the Minister in relation to the business activities of the Board and the duty of the Commission to promote competition in electricity and gas and the Minister shall, in consultation with the Minister for Finance, take account of those recommendations in consenting to activities under subsection (1).".

This amendment seeks to amend section 17 which leaves BGE free to do almost anything it likes with the Minister's consent.

Or do nothing without it.

Yes. I notice in terms of photo opportunities there were no political figures at the press conference on the extension of its pipeline. That was rather politically gauche.

It is flexing its muscles for privatisation.

The extension of the gas pipeline is a very strong geo-political constituency issue and I was very surprised. If it was directly within the ambit of the Minister for Public Enterprise, Deputy O'Rourke, she would be out front and BGE would be well behind. The Minister is too soft on these issues.

The Deputy would not want me any other way. There is another side.

I am told the Fianna Fáil parliamentary party is soft. I propose to allow the regulator to become involved where BGE proposes to engage in activities that might not help the regulator to promote competition in the energy markets. The Minister always has the final say in terms of giving consent or not and the amendment simply allows the regulator to express a view and have account taken of it.

It is similar to amendment No. 27 which has already been debated. In the gas industry BGE has a monopoly and CER has a function, even if it is time limited, up to the time of full deregulation of the market. Will the Minister accept the amendment?

I urge the Minister to reject the amendment. Regulators have sufficient authority. We need to be mindful of the power of this House and keep as much of the power as people give us in this House. I repeat this ad nauseam. The Deputy accused me of having a phobia about it. The regulators are powerful enough already.

Deputy Stagg is consistent on this issue. He had something similar to say in a trenchant way on Committee Stage. Amendment No. 26 proposes to insert a new subsection in section 17 to allow the commission to make recommendations to the Minister on BGE's business activities, having regard to the commission's duty to promote competition in electricity and gas. It is proposed that the Minister should take account of these recommendations, in consultation with the Minister for Finance, in consenting to BGE's proposed new business activities.

Section 17 gives BGE additional powers and functions on the production, transmission and distribution of energy and other business activities, subject to ministerial consent. As I explained earlier, this Bill is intended principally to provide for a scheme to allocate scarce capacity in the gas network and take account of competition requirements in the implementation of the scheme. It is not the purpose to give the commission any other additional functions. It is my understanding the commission does not enjoy such powers in relation to any other entity in the energy sector. I am not aware why it should be given these functions regarding BGE.

The idea of the commission becoming involved with BGE proposals before they are approved would be to treat BGE differently from other players in the regulated energy sector. I see no justifiable reason for BGE to be singled out in this way. If BGE becomes involved in the energy market in a manner that is within the scope of the Electricity Regulation Act, 1999, then the com mission will have all the powers necessary to examine its activities in the same way as it may examine the activities of any other entity under that Act. I do not propose to accept the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Amendment No. 27 not moved.

I move amendment No. 28:

In page 23, between lines 31 and 32, to insert the following:

"(6) The compulsory purchase powers granted to parties other than the Board in this Act shall not be a basis for undermining any existing powers of Bord Gáis Éireann in relation to the laying of pipelines.".

This amendment was requested by BGE. It retains a legalistic fear that the way this is set out in terms of a level playing pitch between it and new operators, if there is a legal challenge to the legislation its powers will be threatened. The Minister said he had legal advice to the contrary. I cannot see that it has any negative knock-on effect.

This is not an academic matter because we now see they will greatly expand the pipelines and it is possible that they may engage in a joint venture if Corrib comes ashore. It would be a pity if there was a legal challenge, say, to Premier Transco. If the red tape is wrong a state of paralysis might occur. They will obviously have legal people looking at this Bill and will get legal advice on it. The Minister of State owns the company, so he might think of its best interests.

I support the amendment, but the briefing for amendment No. 26 and the briefing for this amendment obviously came from opposing sides.

Never before was such consultation given to all of us on legislation. I understand this amendment proposes that the extension of BGE's compulsory purchase powers to private operators shall not undermine the existing powers of BGE in relation to the laying of pipelines. I am not sure this amendment would necessarily achieve what I understand to be its objective.

I could not put BGE in a different and more favourable legal position than other companies operating in the natural gas sector. To do so would be incompatible with Community law. It might even undermine the creation of a level playing field for BGE and private operators as proposed by the Bill. I am aware of the issues underlying the proposed amendment and that there is concern in some quarters that a court challenge by a private operator to the exercising of these powers could affect BGE. The Gas Act, 1976, sets out elaborate procedures for the acquisition of land. The functions are divided between the Minister and BGE and this gives the system a built-in system of checks and balances. This position will not change with the extension of these powers to private companies.

The Bill as presently drafted does not provide that applicants automatically obtain compulsory purchase powers; applicants will only be able to avail of such powers after I have given my consent in relation to the construction of a pipeline – in other words, after there has been full public consultation on the application and environmental impact statements. The procedures of the 1976 Act have withstood the test of time. They will continue to apply and I am not aware of any reason why the extension of the compulsory purchase powers to private operators, in accordance with these procedures, could undermine BGE's position.

For those reasons I do not propose to accept this amendment.

When the Minister of State's political career is over he might consider taking up a career as a number one batsman; he has kept a straight bat for every ball bounced at him.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Bill reported with amendment and received for final consideration.
Question proposed: "That the Bill do now pass."

I sincerely thank my colleagues opposite, particularly Deputies Yates and Stagg. There was terrific co-operation on this and we could easily have missed out on putting the legislation through in the limited time we had available. But for the co-operation forthcoming from colleagues we would not have put it through and that could have had serious implications for electricity supply in the future. I appreciate that co-operation very much. It might not have seemed possible to pass the legislation in the given timeframe, but I got wonderful co-operation and I appreciate it sincerely. I wish Deputy Yates well in his elevation to a new portfolio. We will miss him.

I thank the Minister of State for his kind remarks and for his flexibility, in so far as his script allowed it. He stretched it to the absolute limit and I appreciate that.

I wish the legislation and the CER well. I hope this Bill does not end up in court with unsuccessful applicants litigating against it. A genuine attempt has been made to ensure that there is enough gas for new electricity operators. The electricity legislation involved over 200 amendments, so there has been substantial liberalisation. I thank the Minister of State's officials also. On two occasions they have been very courteous and helpful in briefing us as to the import of amendments, allowing us, in the public interest, allowing us to strip away some of the vested interests.

I thank the Minister of State for his kind personal remarks.

I thank the Minister of State and his officials for bringing forward a much improved Bill. The democratic process of debate in the House, particularly on Committee Stage, has had the effect of improving the Bill. The Minister of State saw the improvements required and made those improvements. That is how it should be. It was dealt with in a non-partisan way in the public interest and we have a good Bill.

Question put and agreed to.
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