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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 30 Nov 2000

Vol. 527 No. 2

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Tax Code.

Derek McDowell

Question:

2 Mr. McDowell asked the Minister for Finance if his attention has been drawn to the recent report from the NESF which stated that 20% of householders got 80% of the benefit of the tax individualisation arrangements introduced in budget 2000 and that if individualisation is continued as planned, 98% of the benefits would go to the top 20% of householders; his views on the accuracy of these figures; if he will proceed with further tax individualisation proposals in the 2001-02 budget; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [28063/00]

The policy development of widening the standard rate tax band has been debated at length in the House and elsewhere since budget 2000. The Deputy will be aware that part of the context for the policy changes with respect to band widening that I introduced in budget 2000 was the Government's target that at least 80% of taxpayers should not be subject to the higher rate of tax. In my statement on budget 2000, I pointed out that one of the chief problems with the taxation system was the low level of income at which single people became liable to the top rate of tax and that single people who were on incomes less than the average industrial wage were paying tax at the top rate.

The aim of the initiative, on completion, was to reduce the percentage of taxpayers on the top rate of income tax to 17%, or 12% if exempt cases are included. The Deputy will also be aware that the policy of establishing a single standard rate band for all individual taxpayers was supported by the social partners in the Programme for Prosperity and Fairness. The social partners also support the target that at least 80% of taxpayers should not be subject to the higher rate of tax.

I understand that the NESF report to which the question refers deals with the alleviation of labour market shortages, it does not concern taxation matters as such. However, the report, in its references to taxation, indicates "support in principle for moving to more individual taxation". It also acknowledges that widening of the tax bands is in itself progressive. To complement band widening, as part of an overall tax reform package, the report suggests that measures be adopted for those on lower incomes and-or all taxpayers equally.

The data, as quoted in the Deputy's question, on the distributional impact of the band widening does not coincide with what, I understand, is contained in the NESF report on the alleviation of labour markets shortages. It is noteworthy that the data in the NESF report was produced using the ESRI's SWITCH system. The output of that system depends on the parameters and assumptions that are input into it. I am not aware of the parameters or assumptions used by NESF to generate the output. The Deputy will understand that it would not be appropriate for me to outline at this stage the measures that are to be included in my Budget Statement on 6 December next.

The Minister correctly pointed out that the NESF report basically deals with labour market shortages. The report states that the home carer's allowance has introduced a new distortion which aggravates the problem of labour shortages by providing a disincentive for a second partner to take up paid employment. Will the Minister comment on that observation?

I have read chapter 6 of the NESF report which is due to be published shortly. That chapter supports the policy of widening the standard rate band and it also makes the case that further measures should be taken at the lower end of the scale and for all taxpayers generally. It further states, quite correctly, that the introduction of the home carer's allowance negatived somewhat the benefit of the widening of the standard rate band which I undertook in last year's budget. I explained at the time that I took that route on foot of a commitment in the Fianna Fáil manifesto. I brought forward the change one year earlier than originally envisaged.

Does the Minister accept that the allowance is a serious disincentive to work?

This policy has been welcomed widely in Europe and, in light of the debate on last year's budget and the fact that people now have a greater understanding of it, here at home. As I progress down this road, the incentive to work will be increased. However, it is fair to say that the NESF report refers to other measures being taken also.

Does the Minister dispute the figures in the NESF report which suggest that investing this amount of money in reducing taxes was seriously regressive? He seems to cast aspersions on the ESRI switch model.

No, I do not. I understand that 20% and 80% are not the figures in the final report. The Deputy is quoting from figures widely reported in a Sunday newspaper so I am not blaming him for that. The report contains a good analysis of the widening of the standard rate band although the report is about the labour market shortages and not about taxation. The report welcomes the widening of the standard rate band in principle and also refers to the extension of the home carer's allowance and other ways in which the taxation system could increase participation in the labour force. It is all there and it is well worth reading.

I cannot help remarking that the Minister, in giving his response, used the past tense a number of times. I understood this was ongoing Government policy which we could expect more of.

The Deputy must await the budget next Wednesday.

May we see a copy of the report?

It will be published shortly. It will be so well leaked there will be nothing new in it.

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