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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 13 May 2003

Vol. 566 No. 3

Opticians (Amendment) Bill 2002 [ Seanad ] : Second Stage.

I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

This Bill seeks to modernise the Opticians Act 1956, as there have been no substantive amendments to it since its provisions came into force in 1959. There is now a pressing need to bring the current legislation up to date with the modern practice of optometry while advancing the interests of the consumer and ensuring that effective precautions are taken to safeguard public health. I hope it will therefore receive the full support of the House.

It is important that we remind ourselves of the context of the regulation of the practice of optometry in Ireland. The primary purpose of the 1956 Act was to protect the public by a number of legal mechanisms. Those qualified to practise or those who, at the Bill's introduction, were deemed to be experienced enough to practise, now had to be registered. There was a commitment to fostering continual improvement in the education and training of entrants to the professions. A set of rules was devised under the Act to control the activities of registered opticians and sanctions were put in place to enable the Opticians Board to discipline those persons who breached the provisions of the Act or the rules of the board as approved by the Minister for Health.

The development of legislation to regulate the practice of optometry was given impetus by the creation of the National Health Service in the United Kingdom in the 1940s. When the NHS was established, central professional committees were set up simultaneously to assess the applications of those who wished to be approved as service providers under the new system. In the case of the profession of optometry, some of those who applied had no formal training or qualification. They were therefore deemed by the central professional committees to have inadequate competence to act either as ophthalmic opticians or dispensing opticians in the United Kingdom. Consequently, an influx of persons who claimed to be ophthalmic opticians and who had been excluded from the National Health Service arrived in Ireland, where there were no barriers to their activities at that time. As evidence of those matters built up, the then Minister for Health and his officials accepted the need for legislation to ensure adequate standards of training and education for those entering the professions and controls on their activities and behaviour. The Opticians Bill was subsequently introduced in July 1955 and passed in 1956. Following the appointment of the first Opticians Board and the approval of the Minister for Health of the rules made under the Act, the provisions came into force in 1959.

I will examine the Bill's main provisions in detail. First, the title "optometrist" will be used in place of "ophthalmic optician". There is no issue of principle involved in the change of title. The amendment's purpose is to give a legislative basis to the use of the more modern title of "optometrist". During the Bill's passage through the Seanad, there was some confusion as to use of the titles "optician", "ophthalmic optician" and "optometrist". I would like to clarify that the term "optometrist" will replace any occurrence of the title "ophthalmic optician" or "registered ophthalmic optician" in the principal Act, while the term "optician" or "registered optician" will remain unchanged.

Sections 24, 25, 33 and 34 of the principal Act will be amended to provide that being of good character and not having been declared bankrupt are requirements for the registration of optometrists and dispensing opticians trained within and outside the EU. In addition, not having been prohibited or suspended from practice because of conviction for a criminal offence or serious misconduct in connection with the carrying out of professional duties will also be a requirement for registration for both professions.

Sections 24, 25, 33 and 34 are also being adjusted to provide for the registration of optometrists and dispensing opticians in different categories – those trained in the EU and those trained outside the EU. Those provisions will correlate with the terms of the EU directives on the mutual recognition of professional education and training, which were transposed into Irish law by SI 1 of 1991 and SI 135 of 1996.

One of the Bill's main provisions will be to deregulate the sale of ready-made reading glasses and provide for their wider and cheaper distribution. Under current legislation, only a registered medical practitioner or a registered optician may prescribe and/or dispense spectacles. In 1993, the Opticians Board adopted rules under which a registered optician could sell spectacles without prescription where the spectacles are intended to correct, remedy or relieve the condition known as presbyopia.

The Office of the Attorney General had previously advised that legislation to deregulate the sale of ready-made reading glasses was urgently required to avoid a potential liability in damages, should proceedings be instigated by the European Commission – as was proposed – and prove successful. My Department was subsequently advised, through the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Employment, that the Commission had decided to close the case. It is assumed that the Commission took that decision on the basis of our proposal to deregulate. However, under the current legislation, the potential for action to be taken by private citizens in the Irish courts remains. A case was heard by the High Court in December 2002 and a judgment is awaited.

With regard to the Bill, the specific details of how the sale of ready-made reading glasses will be deregulated are as follows. While section 49(1) of the principal Act, which regulates the sale of spectacles, will remain unchanged, its provisions will no longer apply to the sale of ready-made reading spectacles by unregistered persons. The Bill redefines "spectacles" to exclude ready readers, afocal sunglasses and afocal goggles and defines "ready-made reading glasses" separately. The separation of ready readers from the definition of "spectacles" in the Act has the effect of excluding them from the provisions of section 49(1). Contact lenses, with or without focal power, are included in the definition of "spectacles" and their sale will remain regulated.

Originally it was proposed that the sale of ready-made reading glasses should be subject to an age restriction and accompanied by the stipulation that clients must be advised that ready readers are not a substitute for normal eye examinations. However, after consultation and detailed consideration, it was decided that the above proposals would not be included because: it was realised there would be practical difficulties with enforcement among sellers not registered with the Opticians Board; the stipulations are not enforced in other EU jurisdictions; imposing a labelling requirement would place an unfair burden on the industry; and, while worthy, the proposals are not medically necessary.

The liberalisation of the sale of ready-made glasses already applies in the majority of member states of the European Union and should find favour with the general public. I note that the recent report carried out by Indecon International Economic Consultants for the Competition Authority welcomed my Department's proposals and stated that deregulation would lead to an improvement in competition and consumer welfare.

Since 1993, the Opticians Board has expressed concern over the lack of disciplinary powers to deal with allegations of professional misconduct or unfitness to practise against registered opticians. The current legislation provides two categories of fines reflecting the fact that certain offences under the Act are more serious than others. The amounts payable in the two categories are derisory by modern standards: for first offences fines are £20 and £10, and for second and subsequent offences the fines are £100 and £50, respectively.

It is proposed to provide for fines which range between €500 and €3,000. That will enable the board to apply reasonable discipline in an effort to ensure that those registered under the Act, as well as those commercial interests which may employ them, are obliged to behave in a manner which will contribute to the protection of the public by ensuring proper standards of practice and behaviour.

The amendments to section 48(1) concern the administration of drugs. Section 48(1)(b) of the current legislation places an absolute prohibition on the prescription and administration of drugs by a registered optometrist who is not also a registered medical practitioner. However, in modern optometry practice it is not possible to conduct a proper examination of the eye without dilation of the pupil, which requires the use of mydriatic drugs. One effect of such drugs is to freeze the accommodation of the eye, that is, to reduce the eye's ability to change focus. In practice, optometrists are interpreting the 1956 Act to mean that the use of such drugs is lawful, since the principal Act refers to the administration of drugs whose purpose is to paralyse the accommodation of the eye. Optometrists contend that paralysing the eye is not the purpose but the effect of their professional activities, an application, perhaps, of the old moral principle of direct and indirect effect.

It is now proposed to remove the absolute prohibition on administering drugs. Rather than permitting unrestricted access to drugs, the following additional changes are being made in conjunction with the deletion of subsections 48(1)(a) and (b) to allow optometrists to carry out their professional function while stopping short of facilitating their medical treatment of an injury or disease of the eye. Article 14 of the Medicinal Products (Prescription and Control of Supply) Regulations 1996 will be amended simultaneously with the Bill's enactment to ensure that opticians will have limited access to just three diagnostic drugs. The drugs in question are for topical application only, and they cannot be injected or taken orally. Optometrists will not have the authority to prescribe or supply those drugs. In other words, they will not be for resale and they may not be given to the patient. The regulations will also stipulate that optometrists may only use those drugs in the course of their professional practice.

Optometrists will therefore be unable to carry out therapeutic treatment, as they will not be permitted access to therapeutic drugs. Control of the use of certain medicines by opticians will be put clearly within the remit of the Minister for Health and Children and will safeguard against future use of potentially dangerous drugs.

Furthermore, in the revised section 48(1)(c), there will be a continued prohibition on diagnosing diseases. It is proposed to introduce an amendment to that subsection which will state that, if an optometrist suspects the presence of a condition or a disease which requires medical attention, he or she will be obliged to inform the patient and recommend that the patient consult a registered medical practitioner.

I would like to emphasise that there is now a statutory obligation to refer under current legislation. The new requirement for the referral of patients to medical practitioners where injury or disease is suspected will be indicative of best practice.

The question of striking a balance has not been easy to resolve, and there have been extensive consultations with the opticians board and the College of Ophthalmologists. At a meeting with the college in February, the President outlined the difficulties which many ophthalmologists had with the use of the word "treatment " which was originally in section 12(b)(4) of the Bill. I subsequently gave an undertaking to have my Department re-examine this area. Having examined the subsection in question and having consulted with the Office of the Chief Parliamentary Counsel to the Government, I proposed an amendment on Committee Stage of the Bill in the Seanad to delete the words “or treatment of the eye” from section 12(b)(4), which was accepted.

The decision to proceed with the provisions allowing optometrists to use certain drugs in the course of their professional practice was influenced in part by the fact that the UK General Optical Council permits the use of drugs by optometrists for diagnostic purposes and is proposing to extend their provisions to allow optometrists to use drugs for therapeutic purposes also. The UK College of Ophthalmologists has accepted the General Optical Council's decision on diagnostic drugs.

This Bill is intended to open up competition in terms of the deregulation of the sale of ready-made reading glasses, but it also has a strong element of health and safety built into it, which is indicative of best practice. I have recognised from the start that unanimity on the issue of the use of drugs by optometrists would be very difficult to secure. There are those who would wish to see a more restrictive approach and those who would wish to see a more liberal approach. However, I hope that the Department's previous concessions will enable a level of compromise, if not consensus, to be reached. I am pleased to introduce this short Bill in the Dáil. I commend it to the House and look forward to hearing the views of Deputies.

I thank the Minister for his presentation and welcome the opportunity to speak on this important though, in the context of the problems besetting the health service, probably not most urgent issue. It is the first health legislation to come before this Dáil. It seems rather surreal to be discussing it in the context of other more pressing issues – health cutbacks, hospital strikes, the ending of the disabled person's grant, cutbacks in all areas of community care. Nevertheless, I realise this legislation has been promised for a very long time and I welcome the opportunity to speak to it. It amends the Opticians Act 1956 and is an attempt to update legislation in the area. Without question, there have been significant changes and advances in the whole field of optometry since the 1950s. It is only right that our legislation should adapt to accommodate these changes.

The explanatory memorandum talks about modernising the legislation. In some areas the Bill modernises the law. However, in other areas it constitutes a welcome return to old practice. The change in the name to "optometrist"– the Minister has given a history of the reason – is something optometrists very much favour. In some sense this can be seen as formalising a name that is already in use to some extent. I hope that finally deciding that this is what they will be called will end confusion rather than cause further confusion as it becomes the standard title for practitioners, because for many people an optician is an optician and they will not change their minds, for some time anyway, merely because we say it is something else.

I welcome the changes to sections 24, 25, 33 and 34 of the principal Act to ensure that registered optometrists, trained both within and outside the EU, are people of good character and have not been declared bankrupt or prohibited or suspended from practising because of a conviction for a criminal offence or serious misconduct in connection with the carrying out of their professional duties. These changes are a very welcome safeguard for consumers and will ensure that they receive the best professional service. That is an essential requirement in any health related service.

The Act is also amended to allow for the registration of opticians trained both inside and outside the EU. That is also a positive development in line with our commitments under EU directives which were transposed into Irish law. It is a positive development which will open up the field further to professionals from outside the State and from outside the EU.

The financial penalties have also been updated. In the context of the financial penalties which will be used as a disciplinary measure by the opticians board, should we not change the name of the board as well as those to whom it applies? These monetary penalties will give greater clout to the opticians board to tackle anybody accused of professional misconduct or unfitness to practice. This is welcome and will give the board the opportunity to safeguard the good name of the profession and guarantee the public the best service. The fines that were in place were laughable – £12 to £20 for a first offence and £50 to £100 for second and subsequent offences. These would have no impact whatsoever. The new fines, spanning from €500 to €3,000, will be something of a financial deterrent, will give greater protection to the consumer and ensure that the best possible standard of practice is upheld in the professional-patient relationship.

The main focus of the Bill, and the reason the Bill is before us, is to deregulate the sale of ready-made reading glasses which, I am happy to tell the House, I am wearing, having purchased them across the counter outside this State. It is long over due and very welcome. My only concern is that the definition of spectacles in the Bill to exclude ready-made reading spectacles, afocal sunglasses and afocal goggles does not mention ready-made reading spectacles which are also sunglasses. I do not know if, by implication, they are included. Perhaps the Minister will let me know before Committee Stage because if they are not I would like to deal with it by way of amendment. It is a small matter, but there is no point in leaving it out. If the intention is to include ready-made reading spectacles which are also sunglasses, I want to ensure, by naming them separately, that they can be excluded from the definition of spectacles.

The Bill also provides for modernisation of the legislation relating to optometry by clarifying that contact lenses are included in the definition of spectacles. That is very welcome. I do not know whether it is possible to do so here, but in other countries it is possible to buy contact lenses for cosmetic purpose to change the colour of the eyes. That is definitely something that must be done by way of prescription. It is not a safe practice and I welcome that it is not deregulated.

Some aspects of the Bill have a modernising effect, but the return to the ready-made reading glasses is a return to older practice. I am old enough to remember when ready readers were available. I recall that for people from the provinces an essential part of every trip to Dublin was a trip to Woolworth's to buy ready readers for a very small amount of money. We have seen the full circle in this matter and today's development is welcome. From the consumer's perspective the deregulation of the sale of ready-made reading glasses will allow for greater accessibility to them as well as making them cheaper. When almost every other aspect of the health service is becoming more expensive for people, there is at least one area where we can say something will become cheaper, and we have the EU to thank for that. The reason the Bill is before the House is that the EU threatened the Irish Government for not deregulating many years ago. It only withdrew the threat of taking legal action against the State when the Government agreed to introduce legislation. There was a great deal of delay with the result that a private citizen took a case. While it has been slow in coming it is welcome even at this late stage. I hope this will be the end of cases against the State in this area.

Public health concerns have been expressed on the issue of making ready readers more accessible to the public without the necessity of going to an optician or ophthalmologist and that this might result in people assuming they do not need to do regular eye tests as they get older. I appreciate that concern and there is a real danger that people will avoid having eye tests. Representations were made to the Minister to require the sellers of such glasses to carry a health warning saying that a person should attend for an eye test. The Minister has come out against that suggestion on the basis that it would be an unfair burden on the industry and also that it would be difficult to implement. I am inclined to agree with the case made by the Minister of State. It would be difficult to implement and would probably be unfair because there is a need for the test irrespective of whether one uses ready readers. Although it is age related the test is not the reason for getting the reading glasses. However, the two are not necessarily connected. There is a genuine concern here and the Minister should deal with it, as part of a health campaign, by drawing public attention to the need for regular eye tests, particularly after a certain age. That should be done either through the health boards or the health promotion units. Ongoing campaigns are part of health promotion and disease prevention. It would be unfair to impose that burden on one aspect of the industry as it would reach only the portion of the population who need glasses, not necessarily everybody who is at risk.

While the main purpose of the Bill is to deregulate, the Minister of State said one area of the Bill which is very controversial has to do with the removal of the absolute prohibition on the use of drugs by optometrists. The optometrists association has sought this change to the Act to allow them the use of diagnostic drugs to examine patients who present for primary care assessment. It made the point that national contracts with the Department of Social and Family Affairs and health boards require optometrists to carry out certain tests to determine the patient's need for vision care. It points out also that, in the course of their four year degree course, optometrists receive both academic and practical training in pharmacology and in the use of drugs. In short it considers that the use of those drugs are essential to enable them to successfully and professionally carry out their work. While there is nothing in the Bill which describes these drugs, I understand the Minister has stated that amendments to the regulation will allow for the use of three specific drugs for the purpose of examining the eye.

The ophthalmologist body and individual ophthalmologists have made strenuous representations to the Minister and me. Certainly they saw this as the thin edge of the wedge in permitting practitioners, other than medical doctors, the right to diagnose and prescribe for medical conditions. It may be that they misunderstood and assumed the right to prescribe was being given rather than merely the right to procure for use for the purpose of an examination. Whatever the reason, certainly they felt very strongly about it. The letter which the Minister received from his ophthalmologist representative on the opticians board states:

In the event of the proposed changes in the Act proceeding I would find it impossible to continue to act as your representative on the opticians board.

By any standards this is heavy stuff and I am sure this threat was not made lightly. It is a difficult call for a non-profession to make. I am conscious of the need to safeguard public health and I am also conscious of the need to ensure the public has easy access to services at minimum cost. I am also aware that health professionals – this is true of all professionals – zealously and jealously guard functions which they see as their own special preserve, simply because it has traditionally been so. I do not feel I am qualified to make this call. However, the Minister is obliged to make the call and I presume he has taken the best medical advice available. He has also stated that he has been particularly influenced by the UK model which permits the use of certain drugs to optometrists in the course of their professional practice and that this is supported by the UK college. While the Irish College of Ophthalmologists is affiliated to the UK college, it does not favour their use.

I note what the Minister said that as a result of an amendment in the Seanad he deleted the words "or treatment of the eye" from section 12(b). It is not clear whether that is acceptable to the ophthalmologists. Certainly from what I have heard they are not happy and their complaint still stands. However, it may be that they genuinely misunderstand the intent of the Bill. I would welcome a communication from the Minister on that issue before Committee Stage.

The other part of section 12 is bizarre. I assume it is sop to ophthalmologists or somebody who considers their feathers have been ruffled. On the one hand it states:

A registered optician who is not a registered medical practitioner shall not suggest by any written or oral statement or by any action that the registered optician has made or is capable of making a medical diagnosis.

On the other hand he is required, and now required by law, as stated in paragraph (b):

Where in the course of an eye examination, a registered optician. . . suspects the presence of a disease or condition of the eye, the registered optician shall inform the patient of this and recommend that the patient consult with a registered medical practitioner.

On the one hand there is a paragraph suggesting an optician is totally incapable of making such a judgment but on the other hand if he makes that judgment he is to take action immediately. In making it a legal requirement it places a legal onus on an optician. I have no doubt a registered optician would do that in any event. We are probably unnecessarily exposing them to litigation by making it a legal requirement, particularly when we have already adjudged in this same legislation that they are not capable of making that judgment.

Subject to the points I have made, and I would welcome feedback before Committee Stage, I welcome and support the Bill. I welcome the deregulatory nature of it, which is long overdue. I welcome also the provision to monitor and control the activities of ophthalmologists, that is control by the board of its own members. I welcome the Bill and support the Minister's efforts in this regard.

I understood this was minor legislation but when I saw two Ministers sitting in I began to get worried and thought I had missed something. Clearly, it is a minor Bill. It updates existing legislation that has remained as constituted since the mid 1950s. Its main relevance for the public is the deregulation and sale of over the counter glasses for every day use. It is a good development and I welcome it. It brings Ireland into line with other countries and facilitates the easy purchase and availability of what have now become basic items.

My only quibble concerns the question of labelling. Like Deputy Olivia Mitchell, I believe that advising people on the need for eye tests should be included in the package of deregulation. It is the kind of public health information that should be disseminated and neither the Department nor any public health unit should be made responsible for it. It would be much better if those buying these items over the counter are advised of the need for eye tests by way of a simple labelling procedure. I am surprised it cannot be done. It is not easy to get the message across by using public health channels because much of the information disseminated in this way reaches the anxious healthy rather than those who need to receive it. We must widen the means of disseminating health promotion information. In this regard, this Bill is an opportunity missed, which is regrettable.

Opticians have sought changes for some time, including updating the fines for breaches of the legislation and clarifying the process involved in the sale of spectacles. The current penalties are hopelessly inadequate.

However, the general scheme relating to optical examinations works very well. I have a busy constituency office, yet I cannot recall anybody making a complaint about the optical service. There are huge numbers of complaints about the dental service, hearing aids for the elderly – some elderly are denied the chance to hear by way of hearing aid for weeks and even months – and artificial limbs. I even received a complaint from a cancer sufferer regarding his inability to get a wig. Many of these services, covering items that could make major differences to the quality of life of claimants, have not functioned at the point of access. Often supplies are inadequate or the bureaucratic arrangements are too penal, with the result that those requiring an item or a service are often unable to access them. By contrast, I have never heard of a complaint from those who need to wear glasses.

The Minister should clarify the points raised by the College of Ophthalmologists and the Association of Optometrists, especially with regard to their concerns about the types of drugs the Bill will allow optometrists to use while examining patients. There may be a turf war element to these concerns, but they need to be addressed. I received a letter from a practising optometrist dealing with the drugs that will be allowed for use. It states:

They have some very serious adverse reactions. They also should be used with special care on the elderly and especially on children. Caution should be taken with their use in certain conditions, such as cardiovascular, respiratory, genital, urinary and other conditions. They also must be used with caution in the presence of other drugs with which they can react. How can a medically unqualified person, such as an optician, be expected to use these drugs safely?

The letter then asks various questions about opticians, including their knowledge and expertise in administering these drugs. It goes on to state:

These are complex drugs and that is why the Irish Medicines Board has classified them as 'prescription only'. I think the Minister will leave himself and his Department open to further recrimination if he presses forward with these changes.

I support the current scheme, which was extended in 1999 and which has worked well. Medical card holders and some PRSI workers are entitled to free eye examinations and they also have an element of choice in terms of who they attend. It gives power to the patient to choose where they will receive care, which is satisfactory. In many areas, especially with regard to the public hospital service, public patients have no choice, especially those who are stuck on hospital waiting lists. They have no power to accelerate access to care and are often frightened to complain on the basis that if they do so they will be penalised and lose out in terms of getting treatment. It is very distressing for patients when they attempt to access care. We should, therefore, acknowledge those schemes that work well.

I understand this scheme has the lowest number of complaints in the Department of Social and Family Affairs, which is laudatory. The scheme requires that service providers do not discriminate, which is also very important. There are no waiting lists, from which the Minister could do well to learn. There is talk of all kinds of reform in the pipeline.

The Government is having difficulties bringing them ashore.

We await them with bated breath. In this instance there is a fundamental issue about choice and access from which we can learn.

The question of providing sufficient training to optometrists to administer and use these drugs safely is important. For example, what will be their role in the case of emergency? What happens if they are unaware of a patient's medical history or the medication they had taken? The Minister should advise on these and other safety procedures. Our concern here is with controlled drugs, in the sense that they are regulated by the IMB. It indicates that they cannot be used lightly. I am sure that is not the intention.

I expected that index linking of penalties would have been included when the Bill went through the Seanad. While it rightly provides for a major increase in the penalties, there is no provision to deal with the effects of inflation, which is currently running at an annualised rate of 4.3%. Will the penalties have to be increased to keep them in line with inflation? Surely it is much better to include an index linking provision in the Bill.

The Bill will ensure better access and provision for the public and better standards in terms of regulation of the professionals providing the service. That can only be to the good. There also appears to be a good transfer of information between optometrists, general practitioners and consultants. It is an indicator and a confirmation that the optometrist is part of primary care provision and should be seen as such in the same way as is a pharmacist. It is important we understand that primary care is about the provision of various services and supports which are sometimes in grave shortage. When I think of the inability of medical card patients to access speech therapy for their children, I am quite disturbed. It is deeply disturbing that children are growing up without being able to develop language to attend school and avail of education. A system in which people can access care when their eyesight is faulty is to be commended.

I ask for clarification of various points which have been made, but I welcome this Bill generally.

The general thrust of the majority of this Bill's provisions is to be welcomed as they bring deregulation and order to the Opticians Act 1956. The Bill rationalises optical treatment by designating ophthalmic opticians as optometrists as is the case in the United States of America. The deregulation of ready readers, including ready-made spectacles, afocal sunglasses, goggles and contact lenses, is another welcome and common sense development. It will ensure that these items are more widely and freely available which is consistent with EU practice. The Association of Optometrists of Ireland, while welcoming this development, does not consider the use of such aids to be a substitute for a full and thorough eye examination. These products should not be used for protracted periods.

The removal of the prohibition on the prescription and administration of drugs by optometrists is also overdue. They have practical experience of pharmacology as part of their training and they will now have an opportunity to put that training to practical use. Section 41C provides that optometrists will be able to inform patients of underlying medical symptoms or conditions which require medical attention. They will be able to recommend that a patient consults his or her general practitioner.

This Bill seeks to achieve best practice in the general area of optical care and nowhere is this more vital than in the case of children. Educational research has determined that 80% of everything a child learns is acquired through his or her visual system. The ocular channel is, therefore, extremely important in the acquisition of knowledge and merits top quality care during the early, formative years at school. It has been estimated that 16% of all children suffer from inadequate visual skills and up to 94% of such children have reading problems which were previously attributed to special educational needs but are now recognised as being caused by reduced visual skills. Many such children with gifted ability could only read with limited fluency with the result that their self-esteem wavered. Many children and adults were told that their condition was untreatable and that they would have to learn to live with binocular vision.

Fortunately, there is a treatment available, particularly in the United States of America, which has enabled many of the individuals affected to develop normal vision and binocular depth perception. This treatment is called vision therapy, vision training or optomic vision therapy. It can also be described as physical therapy for the visual system which includes the brain and eyes. Through a series of progressive therapeutic procedures, or eye exercises, patients develop or recover normal visual skills. Vision therapy has transformed the lives of countless children with visual defects and is an outgrowth of orthoptics, which literally means "the straightening of the eyes".

This Bill will permit opticians and optometrists to practise in a more professional and effective manner. It achieves an appropriate balance in the vitally important area of optical treatment. I welcome and support the legislation.

This legislation is long overdue according to people I have spoken to, many of whom are opticians. They see it as a tidying up exercise. I welcome the Bill though I have a number of questions to put arising from my direct experience as a sufferer from myopia. Over the years, I have experienced different types of optical aids going back to the old days of very thick glasses. I used hard contact lenses, gas permeable contact lenses as they were known, soft lenses, daily lenses and even monthly lenses. Huge strides have been made to assist people who are short sighted. Only recently, I purchased swimming goggles which are fantastic. Anyone who is short sighted will tell one that it can be a nightmare to be without glasses even in a swimming pool as it can be impossible to recognise someone just a few feet away.

From my experience I am aware that when contact lenses were introduced people used them who should not have. They suffered as a consequence which was obvious from their red eyes and inflammation. I thought at the time that their opticians should have told them that they could not wear contact lenses, but many were being sold and people insisted on wearing them for vanity reasons etc. We talk about safety and penalties, the substantial increase in which I welcome, though they should be index linked. I would be very interested to know how many cases have been brought for misconduct and I ask the Minister to supply the information. What sort of misconduct is addressed? If improper advice is given about the type of lens which should be worn or whether lenses should be worn at all, is that misconduct?

There have been tremendous advances in laser treatment which we see being advertised more and more. Is this treatment being carried out by ophthalmic technicians, or optometrists as we now call them? Does the person carrying out the treatment have to have a medical background? I did not see that touched on in the speech of the Minister of State, which I read. It is important that we know since drugs are administered in the course of laser treatment. After the procedure takes place those drugs have to be taken orally.

The procedure is carried out a great deal in Deputy Gormley's constituency.

So I understand.

I hope the procedure is not carried out by opticians.

It is not. There may be opticians who are qualified, such as ophthalmologists. This area needs to be addressed in the legislation and I ask the Minister of State and his civil servants to examine the matter.

I do not know if the Minister of State has looked at the Irish version of the Bill's Title, but the board was originally called Bord na Radharcmhastóirí. Does the Minister of State have the Irish versions of "optometrist" and "ophthalmic optician"? There is an overlap and the Irish may not be specific.

As a consumer I have a statement to make on costs. The frames one purchases from opticians' shops can vary in price and some, particularly the more fashionable ones, are extremely expensive. However, the exact same frames are sold for much less on the Internet from the US and elsewhere. Again, this is a case of rip-off Ireland and it seems a little bit of a cartel is operating. While we are talking about deregulation, perhaps we should deregulate frames too so that anyone can sell them. Why does it have to be a specific group of people who are overcharging?

The Government always expounds the merits of deregulation, how it is consumer friendly and how the consumer benefits. If that is the case, let us have real deregulation, whereby one can buy frames, although not lenses, in Dunnes Stores. Will the Minister of State consider such a measure? Overall, I welcome the Bill and the advances that have been made.

I attended a fascinating lecture on genetics and evolution which explained the survival of the gene for short-sightedness by the fact that we are no longer hunter-gatherers. If we were, short-sighted men would not get a mate because we would not be good providers. Therefore, I thank God for the advances we have made. I look forward to the Minister of State's replies.

During the last Dáil session, the Minister for Health and Children said that his colleague, the Minister for Finance, and the Department of Finance could not see the bigger picture on health. Perhaps it would be appropriate, given that we are dealing with the Opticians (Amendment) Bill, for the Minister for Health and Children and his colleagues, the Ministers of State at the Department, to recommend to the Minister for Finance that he get his eyes tested or at least remove the blinkers.

Maybe his vision is too acute.

Does the Minister of State think so?

The Minister for Finance has great peripheral vision.

Does he enjoy 20:20 vision?

In hindsight.

He certainly does not have foresight.

I welcome this Bill which is timely and necessary as it reforms and updates optometry legislation in the State. The 1956 Opticians Act regulated the practice of optometry as well as the education, training and qualifications of ophthalmic opticians. Much has changed since the provisions of the Act came into force in 1959 and the profession itself has expanded greatly, as has scientific knowledge and technical expertise. As a user of these services, I welcome such advances. I will not comment on Deputy Gormley's remarks at the end of his contribution – the least said about that, the better.

The range of products available is much wider but there is a need for better choice, as Deputy Gormley pointed out and, where appropriate, the freer competition which many Deputies favour. This must be understood in the context of the protection of public health and safety. We cannot have a free-for-all situation. Rather, protections, guidelines and regulations must be built in.

Apart from substituting the new title "optometrist" for the current term "ophthalmic optician" and providing for adjustments in registration of optometrists and dispensing opticians, the Bill's two main provisions concern ready-made reading glasses and the administration of drugs by optometrists. The deregulation of the sale of ready-made reading glasses is, by and large, a welcome development.

In his Second Stage speech in the Seanad, the Minister for Health and Children pointed out that it was originally proposed that the sale of ready-made reading glasses should be subject to an age restriction and accompanied by the stipulation that ready-readers are not a substitute for normal eye examinations. The Minister said that it was decided, after detailed consultation and consideration by a wide range of opinion, not to include these stipulations. Can the Minister of State elaborate on who was consulted and how wide a range of consideration was given? I am alarmed by the reason given by the Minister, which was that it was not current practice within the European Union. When did we lose our sense of introducing and spearheading best practice ourselves? What problem is there in the two critical areas of age restriction and, more particularly, the importance of emphasising the fact that ready-made reading glasses are not a substitute for normal eye-examinations? Surely that wise and good advice should have been incorporated and may yet be. We should advocate, encourage and provide for best practice in this regard.

I dispute and find it difficult to understand the Minister's contention that a labelling requirement would "place an unfair burden on the industry". This is a profitable industry, in which manufacturers spend millions of euro on advertising their products annually and provide a growing budgetary allocation for this. The proposal to advise people that ready-readers are not a substitute for normal eye examinations is reasonable and good advice and is by no means a restrictive requirement on the manufacturers and those involved in this industry. It would be useful to provide this advice to the public.

There is always a danger that people could take short cuts with their health and we are all probably at fault in this regard at some point in our lives. Some of us take risks with our health, yet are quick to offer advice to others. However, where fees for optometrists and the costs of prescription glasses are high, there is always a danger that people might not seek regular and necessary check-ups. I am overdue a check-up, so I make this point from personal experience and practice as it is something I need to address.

As in other areas, many people who are not covered by the general medical services scheme will fall into the income gap between those who qualify for the GMS scheme and those for whom the costs of regular examination and prescription glasses are not prohibitive. That gap takes in quite a number of people in our communities and I urge the Minister of State to reconsider this matter. I have no difficulty with the provision that removes some of the restrictions on the administration of drugs by optometrists. Optometrists will now have limited access to three diagnostic drugs. This seems both sensible and necessary for the practice of their profession. However, I note that in Senator Henry's contribution to the Seanad debate on this issue she raised a number of concerns about this provision. It would be useful if in the Minister's closing remarks he addressed some of these concerns regarding the removal of restrictions on the administration of drugs by optometrists. Perhaps the Minister already intends to do this, but it is important that we have additional information.

A report published earlier this year by the consulting firm Indecon stated, regarding optometry, that as in other professions, including medicine and dentistry, certain restrictive practices had led to a poorer service for the public. There are restrictions, for example, on the numbers entering the profession, which does not allow for free competition. This is also the case in other areas – indeed, my colleague Deputy Connolly and I have referred to the restrictive practices of the consultant representative organisations of various faculties, colleges and institutes in recent years. We must recognise that the lack of accountability in optometry is similar to that of the all-powerful hospital consultants. I welcome the Minister to the debate: this is something that he and the Minister of State, Deputy Lenihan, and their colleagues will have to grapple with at some point – the powerful position of the representative bodies in the area of medicine, particularly in dentistry and obstetrics, whose key and primary interest is their profession rather than the service they provide and the needs of service users.

The report recommended that the Opticians' Board should have a patient representative, as indeed should apply to Comhairle na nOspidéal, which I am sure the Minister is dealing with. Was it considered, in drafting this legislation, to provide for the presence of a patient representative on the board? It is not contained in the Bill. Would the Minister now accept an amendment to allow for the inclusion of a patient representative on the board? In all these areas we need service user representation. This board is no different to any other in the whole raft of health service provision. I urge favourable consideration of such a proposal. I ask the Minister to consider the various points I have raised and I look forward to his response.

I welcome the opportunity of speaking on this important Bill. The Bill amends the Opticians Act 1956, which has been in existence for more than 45 years. There are five main aspects of the legislation. Firstly, it deregulates the sale of what are commonly known as ready readers. This will provide for their wider and cheaper distribution. Under current legislation, only a registered medical practitioner or a registered optician may prescribe or dispense spectacles. The Opticians' Board in 1993 adopted rules under which a registered optician could sell spectacles without prescription where they were intended to deal with the condition known as presbyopia. This section of the Bill is necessary under EU legislation. The redefinition of the word "spectacles" under this Bill will exclude ready readers, afocal sunglasses and afocal goggles. This will mean that members of the general public will be able to buy glasses to correct presbyopia across the counter, as is the case in most EU member states. This is a most worthwhile development and I warmly welcome it.

The retitling of ophthalmic opticians as optometrists and the registration of optometrists is also in line with EU regulations. The registration of the profession is to be welcomed. Obviously, registration carries responsibilities, so the monetary penalties for professional misconduct need to be updated and brought into line with modern expenses. The section dealing with this reflects modern values. This will enable the board to apply reasonable discipline to ensure that those registered under the Act are obliged to behave in a manner which will contribute to the protection of the public by ensuring proper standards of practice and behaviour.

When this Bill was debated in the Seanad, it emerged that there had been considerable discussion between the Minister and the College of Ophthalmologists in relation to the use of certain drugs in the examination of the eye. The Minister has engaged in widespread discussions with all interested parties and has taken on board many of the fears and worries expressed to him by those bodies. It is important to state that the use of drugs by optometrists in the treatment of eye disease is still prohibited under this Bill. Optometrists are unable to carry out diagnosis or treatment of eye disease as they will not be permitted access to therapeutic drugs. In addition, there will be a continued prohibition on diagnosing disease. A provision is included whereby an optometrist, where he or she suspects the presence of a disease that requires medical attention as a result of his or her examination of the eye, will be obliged to inform the patient of this and recommend that the patient consult a registered medical practitioner. This is indicative of best practice as it is in line with provisions in other countries such as the UK.

There is not unanimity among ophthalmologists in relation to the use of drugs by optometrists in the examination of the eye. Some ophthalmologists to whom I have spoken did not see a problem, but the official line from the College of Ophthalmologists, in extensive representations to the Minister, was that it had problems in this regard. To achieve unanimity on this issue would be very difficult, but the Minister has obtained a good level of compromise, taking into account the best interests of the patient, who is after all the most important person in the health service.

The use of drugs by optometrists to examine the eye so that a patient can benefit is good practice. Modern practice is such that the dilation of the pupil is necessary to obtain a view of the fundus. The use of certain drugs, such as cyclopentolate hydrochloride or oxybuprocaine hydrochloride, is very important in the performance of this function. Their use in the context of the Bill will be of major help to optometrists in the performance of their jobs. I am not saying that these drugs are trivial, but their use in the restricted situation of examination of the eye will be of great benefit to the patient. It is important to remember that optometrists do have a knowledge of pharmacology and the professional knowledge they possess can be utilised in the examination of a patient's eyes.

This Bill places a statutory obligation on optometrists when they detect a problem to immediately inform the patient that he or she should seek further medical advice. This Bill brings in extra protections for the patient in the form of these statutory obligations on optometrists. I warmly commend the Bill to the House.

I welcome this Bill which is long overdue. Prior to the introduction of the principal Act there was deregulation, but the area was over deregulated at that time. However, matters have moved on during the past 50 years. There is a need for deregulation of the sale of what are known as ready readers. Such deregulation should ensure there is more competition and that people will be able to purchase reading glasses at a cheap price. One can purchase a pair of ready readers for between €5 to €8. I bought a pair for approximately £5 at a show some three years ago. They were being sold here at that time, although I was not aware that there was a need for deregulation to allow for the sale of them.

An interesting point was raised by the previous speaker concerning the deregulation of the sale of frames. In this context, can one purchase the lenses only and use one's own frames? In my experience the frames are one of the most expensive elements in the purchase of glasses. One can be charged quite heavily for frames. I am sure the Minister of State has some information on that.

I welcome the re-examination and updating of fines under the legislation. What was value for money 50 years ago is not anything like the value for money there is today. A £10 or £20 fine in the 1950s when probably the average weekly income was between £5 and £7 contrasts to the way inflation has increased. Therefore, it is necessary to update the level of fines. The level of fines rendered the sanctions useless and, therefore, the principal Act useless in that sense.

Having regard to the preclusion of the treatment of any disease of the eye under the existing legislation, the provision that minor procedures can be dealt with such as the removing of dust from an eye is welcome.

I am aware the Minister is anxious to move the Bill quickly through the House. I do not want to delay its passage nor do I want to repeat what previous speakers said. I welcome the Bill.

I am pleased to welcome this Bill. It is good, however, I would insert one caveat and I ask the Minister of State to accept an amendment in this regard. One can buy these glasses already made up in a shop in England or other EU countries as previous speakers said. One simply finds the glasses that suits one and buys them. However, such glasses should carry a health warning in the same way as a packet of cigarettes carries one. I am not saying that wearing a pair of these glasses would be as dangerous as smoking a packet of cigarettes. However, it could be if one put on a pair of these glasses and ended up in the ditch. This is quite a serious issue. The vision one has from wearing a set of these glasses is one's view on the world. It is important that this system works.

The Bill is good and I understand what it covers. However, because a measure is right for the rest of Europe does not mean it is right for us. People pay a good deal of money to purchase spectacles. There needs to be a qualification on the deregulation of the purchase of these glasses. A health warning should be given on the purchase of them to the effect that they are only a substitute pair of glasses but no substitute for a proper examination by a qualified eye specialist and that one should be suitably attired with spectacles with lenses that best suit the condition of one's eyes.

These glasses are intended for the treatment of presbyopia. We all get to that stage and I am at that stage now. I never thought I would be. I always had great sight, but I now wear glasses. I cannot see a stem without them. If I were on my way to Dublin and discovered I had left my glasses at home, I could buy a substitute pair in a pharmacy.

Everybody's eyes are different. Therefore, the glasses that are suitable for one person may not be suitable for somebody else. It is simple to purchase a pair of custom made spectacles, but they will not do the job they should. The sight in my two eyes is different. My eye defect through getting older and my lenses getting harder and less pliable means that I cannot adjust them or contract them as much as a younger person. It is part of my mortality and my getting older. The manifestation of that is that I have to wear glasses.

One's left hand is different from one's right hand and one right eye is different from one's left eye. Therefore, one's lenses are also different. These glasses are made to a set strength of lens, but I guarantee the Cheann Comhairle that one of his eyes would have a different lens requirement from the other if he suffered from presbyopia or an older person's vision problem and that ready made glasses are not the answer.

The sale of these glasses should have a health warning to the effect that one should seek a professional eye examination at an early stage. There is an opinion that one can buy these glasses in a pharmacy and that they will be a substitute pair of glasses, but they are not a substitute for a proper eye examination. It is in the interests of everybody to know that.

Regulation such as this is good if it is in the public interest. There are many others areas in which we could have regulation as regards the operation of many non-medical practitioners. There have been sad cases as a result of people practising without regulation even in my own area. I hope there will be the same interest in regulating unqualified practitioners as there is in regulating the sale of spectacles or whether one can buy them in a shop without a prescription. This measure is welcome, but such regulation must be extended across the board.

This is a short Bill. Many Members have not had too much to say on it. It is an important measure but there needs to be an amendment to it to the effect that such glasses are no substitute for a full eye examination. I welcome the Bill with that caveat and I will table an amendment to that effect.

I am glad of the opportunity of addressing the Bill, the object of which is to amend the Opticians Act 1956 to deregulate the sale of ready readers. I strongly support the views of Deputy Cowley in the debate. When discussing the issue of opticians and ensuring consumer rights and the rights of people, especially those with eyesight problems, it is essential that we do not forget that thousands in the State are visually impaired. It is up to us as a State and society to provide the resources and services at the best cost to these people.

It is important where children with a visual impairment are concerned that we do not accept that they must travel outside their area to avail of services. I refer specifically to young children who are visually impaired and must travel more than 100 km from their homes, families and friends to avail of services that will improve their quality of life. I do not accept that because it is unfair.

When the disability legislation is presented to the House and the debate on it commences, we must take into account the thousands of children, young people and adults with a visual impairment who have a right to services and resources. It is unacceptable that they must travel away from their homes and families to avail of these services. We have seen examples of good practice in other countries and we should examine them because they show the way forward. When discussing this legislation we should never lose sight of the fact that there are people who need these services and should have them as a matter of right.

The Bill is progressive legislation. I am concerned that, if we are to involve ourselves in the area of deregulation, we remain conscious that professionalism must be retained in caring for people's health and eyesight in this case. We must have professionals and people we can trust. A situation cannot be allowed to develop where people are not treated properly and with respect. We must highlight this issue in the context of the legislation and ensure people are properly cared for.

I welcome section 2 which amends the definition of spectacles to exclude ready made reading spectacles and afocal sunglasses and goggles and clarifies that contact lenses, with or without focal power, are included in the definition. Sections 3 and 4 provide for opticians to be retitled optometrists.

The legislation does not involve staffing or financial implications, which is worthwhile. It is important when dealing with finances that we remain conscious of the sections of legislation that refer to financial or staffing implications. There is an ongoing debate on the spending of public money. When targeting resources and funding, we must ensure that people, the consumers, especially the visually impaired, receive the maximum benefit. I welcome the legislation.

I appreciate the broad and substantial welcome the House extended on Second Stage to this legislation which allows for the liberalisation of the market in respect of certain items and the modernisation of the law governing the operation of this profession. There was broad agreement on those two points.

Reservations and detailed points were made which would be better considered on Committee Stage, but I hope to address to the best of my capacity the different issues raised in the course of the debate. I am conscious of my lack of knowledge. I noted the vast majority of speakers had to use spectacles, something I have never had to use.

It will come in time.

Perhaps, but I have been blessed so far. I thought of blind Milton when I listened to Deputy Gormley speak about his difficulties.

Deputy Olivia Mitchell inquired about section 2(b) and the definition of “spectacles”. This states that the definition does not include afocal sunglasses or similar articles. That clarifies the point the Deputy raised.

I referred to sunglasses that were also ready readers. I will clarify it at a later stage.

It is clear enough from that subsection but it can be teased out on Committee Stage.

One of the issues raised in the debate was the use of drugs by the profession. The compromise at which the Minister has arrived is that certain drugs can be used for diagnostic but not prescriptive purposes. My impression from what Deputy Mitchell said was that this did not go far enough whereas Deputy McManus was concerned it would go too far. There was some divergence in the opinion expressed on that.

I was asked by Deputy McManus to clarify the issues regarding the use of drugs by optometrists. The Irish Medicines Board wrote to the Department concerning the proposed amendments to the Medicinal Products (Prescription and Control of Supply) Regulations. These amendments will permit registered optometrists to use three specified drugs – cyclopentolate, oxybuprocaine hydrochloride and tropicamide – in the course of their professional practice.

Concerns were expressed at a recent meeting of the IMB's advisory committee on human medicines regarding the training and ability of optometrists to be aware of the possible complications, the specific indications for use and to manage complications should they arise. The IMB has confirmed that it is within its remit to ensure that any prescriber or patient has appropriate information regarding the specific indications and side-effects of the drugs in question and that this information could be made available to optometrists in the usual manner.

All optometrists in the course of their four year honours degree course receive both academic and practical training in pharmacology and the use of drugs in the eye. The possession of diagnostic drugs in a practice does not mean they must or should be used on every patient. Clinical judgment must determine their use. This is in line with best practice and similar to the situation that has pertained in the United Kingdom for many years.

Is the Minister of State quoting the Irish Medicines Board?

I am quoting from the advice it gave the Department.

Is the entire quote from the board?

The outline of the qualifications and training of optometrists is not from the board. The last sentence is the view of the Department on the training of optometrists.

Deputy McManus extended a broad welcome to the legislation. I have dealt with the core issue which was raised, namely, the balance struck by the legislation at this stage between diagnosis and prescription. We are not introducing the principle of prescription for the profession in this legislation.

Deputies Connolly and Gormley welcomed the legislation in broad terms. Deputy Gormley raised a number of specific questions and, if Members bear with me, I will address them. He asked how many conduct cases have been brought before the professional regulation body. I do not have the statistics to hand but, if the Deputy wishes to obtain the information, it will be made available to him on Committee Stage.

Regarding the Irish title of the board, níl a fhios agam faoi sin ach b'fhéidir go mbeimid in ann an cheist seo a réiteach ar Chéim an Choiste.

Laser treatment is a medical treatment carried out in a hospital-based setting under the care of an ophthalmologist who is a registered medical practitioner. That is the regulation system that applies to that treatment.

The Deputy raised the issue of free competition. This is a liberalising measure and, as was pointed out by many speakers, balances have to be struck between professional regulation and liberalisation. That issue was also raised by Deputy Ó Caoláin.

Many speakers, including Deputies Ó Caoláin and Cowley, raised the labelling requirements and the extent to which a warning should be given. Deputy McManus also raised this issue in her contribution. Judging from the sense of the contributions that issue will be revisited on Committee Stage. The reason the Minister made his conclusion on this issue was the question of practical difficulties and the fact that other European Union jurisdictions did not have this requirement which would place an unfair burden on the industry. Deputy Ó Caoláin asked who was consulted about this question. The Opticians Board and the Association of Optometrists were consulted and the General Optical Council in the United Kingdom was also consulted. There were consultations with those bodies before a final decision was made by the Minister. It is a final decision which is subject to the views and deliberations of a committee of this House and from the tenor of the debate I have no doubt the question will be revisited.

Dr. Devins outlined the scientific basis of the compromise arrived at by the Minister on the question of diagnosis and prescribing. I cannot assist Deputy Neville in relation to frames. At present a member of the public goes to a dispensing optician to purchase frames. They cannot prescribe the lenses or even carry out the eye tests. It is unclear to me whether that makes any difference to the price and it is an issue that can be revisited.

It certainly does make a difference and that is the point I was trying to make as well. If we are going to have deregulation, why not sell the frames and the opticians can look after the strength of the lenses? The frames could be purchased at a much cheaper price at normal outlets.

Then they will charge too.

The Deputy should table an amendment on Committee Stage so that we can discuss it further.

That would be very popular with the opticians.

Deputy McGrath spoke about the importance of professionalism and the standards of the services that should obtain. I agree with him and that was the general tenor of the debate.

Deputy McManus and other speakers raised the issue of the fines and whether we have to freeze the fines in the Bill. The Opticians Board requested that provision be made for the periodic updating of fines by ministerial order. The Department had originally intended to include such a provision in the Bill. The advice from the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel is that increasing fines for offences is a matter for primary legislation. The Government has included in its legislative programme a Bill to provide for the updating and indexation of fines and related matters. The legal advice received is that a fine cannot be varied by the use of a statutory instrument: separate primary legislation must be enacted to provide for the indexation of fines generally in all legislation.

Why can it not be put into the Bill and refer to the consumer price index?

I am sure that has been done in other legislation.

I will raise that issue with the Department to see if we can accommodate the Deputy on Committee Stage. There is a stated intention in the programme for Government arising on foot of the Law Reform Commission report to provide in a general sense for the indexation of fines because it is a problem in legislation generally. There is apparently a constitutional objection to our enabling the Minister to vary the level of fine so it would require primary legislation. A specific provision could, if appropriately drafted, be considered in this legislation.

That is all the more reason to have it here.

The Indecon report was mentioned by Deputy Ó Caoláin. Areas of concern identified by Indecon include entry restrictions in the form of limited number of training places, controls on advertising, restrictions on the sale of ready-made spectacles or other visual aids and the composition and membership of the Opticians Board. The Indecon report is an interim stage of the Competition Authority's study of the professions. As the Deputy is aware, the authority will provide reports on individual professions in the following order: engineers, architects, dentists, optometrists, veterinary surgeons, medical practitioners, solicitors and barristers. I note that barristers are last on the list.

The Minister of State can tell why.

I have no interest there now. The authority plans to finalise reports on each of the professions during 2004. In each case it will publish draft reports for public comment before finalisation. On conclusion of the overall study, the authority may seek changes to existing practices and make recommendations for regulatory reform.

We are proceeding with the deregulation of the sale of ready readers in accordance with our Community law obligations. The other areas of concern referred to by Indecon will need to be examined by the Competition Authority in its reports before the Department can come to a final conclusion on them. I think I have dealt with most of the questions raised during the debate. I thank Deputies for their attention.

May I be permitted to interrupt briefly?

An Leas-Cheann Comhairle

Briefly, Deputy.

The Minister of State addressed the point about labelling. The age restriction could very well be a very important element because unfortunately, for a sufficient number of young people, spectacles are a fashion accessory. I am concerned at the availability of ready reader glasses for reading purposes without the application of some age restriction. I am concerned because damage can be done to young eyes quite unnecessarily—

Yes, indeed.

—and I think this merits some consideration.

That can be re-examined on Committee Stage. As with the labelling requirement, we went through the process of consultation on that issue and came to a similar conclusion but we can tease it out further on Committee Stage.

Question put and agreed to.
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