Skip to main content
Normal View

Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 30 Nov 2005

Vol. 611 No. 2

Ceisteanna — Questions.

Computerisation Programme.

Enda Kenny

Question:

1 Mr. Kenny asked the Taoiseach if he will report on implementation of the e-Cabinet project; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [30006/05]

Enda Kenny

Question:

2 Mr. Kenny asked the Taoiseach the cost which has accrued to his Department in respect of the e-Cabinet project; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [30009/05]

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin

Question:

3 Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin asked the Taoiseach if a cost-benefit analysis has been carried out in respect of the e-Cabinet project; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [31427/05]

Pat Rabbitte

Question:

4 Mr. Rabbitte asked the Taoiseach the costs incurred to date in 2005 by his Department arising from the e-Cabinet project; his plans for further expansion or development of this project; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [31498/05]

Joe Higgins

Question:

5 Mr. J. Higgins asked the Taoiseach the cost to his Department in respect of the e-Cabinet project. [32463/05]

Trevor Sargent

Question:

6 Mr. Sargent asked the Taoiseach the cost to his Department of the e-Cabinet project; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [34052/05]

I propose to take Questions Nos. 1 to 6, inclusive, together.

I welcome the opportunity to report on the implementation of the e-Cabinet project within my Department. The e-Cabinet system developed by my Department was deployed for use by all Departments in June 2004 and has been working well since. The project has never been about gadgets for Ministers, rather about seeking to achieve a fundamental improvement in the efficiency of the process by which memoranda for Government are prepared, circulated and submitted. Since its initial deployment in 2004, a number of planned enhancements have been added to the system.

There are 5,400 civil servants registered to use the system. Each registered user has access rights appropriate to his or her responsibilities. As an example of the scale of the efficiencies that it has brought, in a 12 month period from November 2004 approximately 25,000 draft documents were securely circulated electronically using the system. Previously, each of these transactions would have involved a printed copy of the document being delivered by hand either within a Department or between Departments. Additional planned features of the system should be fully completed by the end of the year. Those will enable electronic circulation of Government decisions and for the management of briefing for Ministers on the system.

Apart from process benefits, e-Cabinet provides users with timely information on matters coming before Government. For example, Ministers can see the evolving agenda as each item is submitted to the Cabinet secretariat rather than needing to wait for the circulation of a printed agenda on Fridays. Electronic memoranda are presented in a manner that enables key information to be highlighted. These are just some of the qualitative benefits that the system provides.

The total cost of the project will be approximately €5 million, which is comfortably below the initial estimated cost of €6.45 million at 2001 prices identified in the feasibility study that was undertaken in advance of the formal decision to commence the project. That study highlighted the significant benefits that would arise from modernising the Cabinet business process and implementation of such a system. All development was guided by the goal of achieving value for money.

Already, the system, which is the first of its kind to join up the Government decision-making process from beginning to end, has attracted considerable interest from other Governments and international organisations. It was short-listed, along with four other Irish projects, for the prestigious European Commission e-Government Good Practice 2005 Awards, which were presented in Manchester last week. Finally, I want to take this opportunity to commend the Revenue Commissioners on their success in winning one of the awards for their Revenue on-line system.

I accept this is not about gadgets for Ministers, rather it is a genuine attempt to streamline and make Cabinet business much more efficient. Is the e-Cabinet project fully operational? It was devised by one company in 2003, reviewed by a second and assessed by a third. Is the Taoiseach happy that the security of the e-Cabinet project is as it should be and no one with technological and manipulative skills can hack into what is being discussed?

As it appears to be quite successful from the perspective of the Taoiseach's Department and the Cabinet, have the reports on the e-Government project been taken into account? In respect of the Reach element, reports indicate this will be disappointing unless the Government were to take serious action. Have recommendations been sent out that the e-Government project be dealt with in the same way as this project? Approximately €26 million has been expended, of which €18 million has gone to outside consultants.

The system is doing what it is designed to do. From a cost perspective, it has been completed at a substantially lower cost than estimated. It will be fully operational by Christmas and is at the last stages of enhancement. It has been fully operational but, along the way, a number of new capabilities and initiatives that people believed were beneficial to the system arose. I am advised that they will be finished by Christmas. The system is applied to all Departments and virtually all Government memoranda. When I asked I was told "all" meant over 99% with just a few that may come in late falling outside that. The system provides instant secure transmission within Departments.

In respect of the companies involved, like any other project of this complexity, it was necessary from time to time to engage a small number of additional contributors of specialist services. One of these, for example, arose from the need for independent security advice. Also, infrastructure needed to be installed and configured and a few website styles for viewing documents in electronic environments were designed. All these services were commissioned by the project team. The original report done by PWC included €825,000 for the project management but as I pointed out previously, that was undertaken by my Department so that cost did not arise.

The contract for software development with InVision Research Corporation cost €952,000. This does not include the cost of any change to enhancements I have mentioned. The main contractor was InVision Research Corporation which developed the software. The system is fully up and running.

I am not sure if the Reach project was more complicated but many more Departments were involved in it, including the Department of Social and Family Affairs and other Departments. It was far more complex in the range of challenges. It concerned Government memoranda and access to them. Work is still ongoing on this project across the range of Departments involved. I have not yet seen the latest report but I understand it is quite an intricate project. I have not been involved because the work is being carried out by a committee. Some officials of my Department are involved in it. They are hoping to overcome some of the difficulties but it is quite a complex system as it links many facets. However, they believe they can get on top of it.

Does the Taoiseach recall when the e-Cabinet project was introduced at Cabinet that the Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, advised the system had been custom designed and built by the InVision Research Corporation which is based in the United States? Will he inform the House how much has been paid to that corporation in respect of its roll-out at Cabinet and whether there is an ongoing contract with that research corporation? While Deputy Kenny alluded to it in the course of his question, is the Taoiseach aware that the InVision Research Corporation is contracted by the United States Government to carry out the drafting and dissemination of intelligence information through its technological advances? Would that not give rise for some concern in respect of the confidentiality of Cabinet business? Can the Taoiseach advise the House the extent of access to Cabinet material that the InVision Research Corporation had over the period of the introduction and establishment of the e-Cabinet project?

InVision Research Corporation was the main contractor for the project. Its role was to develop the software applications and so it was fully involved in developing the software. A separate company did the work relating to security infrastructure. They are no different to our own major companies in that they win contracts wherever they win them. I have no concerns about confidentiality and security. The company must sign a confidentiality clause and there was nothing untoward. The company was fully involved in the design of the system. What was the Deputy's first question?

It was about the cost of payments to the InVision Research Corporation and whether it has an ongoing role?

No. Its role was to develop the software and it is not part of the ongoing project team, to the best of my knowledge. Its role was to develop it at the outset. The total cost paid to the corporation for software development was €952,000. This sum did not cover any of the smaller enhancements afterwards which it provided but these would not have cost that much. The contract came in well under its budget. I presume the company received something in the region of €1 million in total for its involvement.

Thank you, Ceann Comhairle, I have learned sufficient.

I am very aware of the talents of the Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach, Deputy Kitt, who is my constituency colleague. I am aware the former Minister of State in that position, Deputy Hanafin, would not be one of the slower members of the Taoiseach's Cabinet; that prize lies elsewhere. It is clear to me as a member of the Joint Committee on Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, which is reviewing the area of the development of electronic services and e-use in the wider Government circles, that it has failed. The experiment of having a Minister of State in charge of e-Government, a Minister responsible for developing the infrastructure and other Ministers looking at the development of uses, has not worked. It is clear from the work of the committee that we have failed to roll out the use of telecommunications in Government generally, particularly broadband and e-business, so as to encourage and stimulate the use of the infrastructure on which a significant amount of money is being expended.

Does the Taoiseach agree that if two of his brightest and best have not succeeded in developing this e-Ministry, perhaps because they are too busy with their other duties, and even if they succeeded with the e-Cabinet project, it is an indication that the general policy on the development of e-Government needs to be changed and this requires one Cabinet Minister to be given responsibility for the infrastructure and development of e-services across all Departments, particularly in the Departments of Education and Science and Health and Children and the Revenue Commissioners, which all communicate directly with the public? I have broadened out my question but I think it is valid in terms of the development of e-Government services. I contend the current way of doing business does not seem to be working.

The Deputy has broadened his question. There is a number of bodies involved. The Information Society Commission works within my Department and promotes the information society in the public domain such as schools. It ensures that people are not left behind in this area. The Minister of State, Deputy Kitt, and the former Minister of State, Deputy Hanafin, launched numerous programmes to involve active age groups, libraries and other services and these have been successful.

On the broader question, the Minister for Education and Science has taken responsibility for technological roll-out to the primary schools. The IT 2000 programme has completed this task and continues with the roll-out of broadband to primary schools and the programme has been a success.

The overall responsibility for dealing with broadband and the technology companies which will help in the rolling out of broadband and in achieving a better take-up of it lies with the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, Deputy Noel Dempsey. He is co-ordinating the whole project. It is disappointing that when broadband was first rolled out on a free basis, many companies took up the offer for the period when it was offered free but did not continue with it when the free period was over.

On the public service side, CMOD is the section of the Department of Finance which has a budget for promoting the more effective use of technology in Departments for some years. Various Departments have an allocated budget for projects approved by CMOD. This has worked very well. The Department of Social and Family Affairs has been an exemplary Department for many years in the use of modern technology, taking the number of its clients and its significant workload. Revenue has done a superb job. It was acknowledged last week in Manchester that Revenue is way ahead of most other countries in the technological services it provides. Unfortunately they have to take money from people so it is not the most popular service.

Other areas such as land registry and the register of births, marriages and deaths can be accessed in ten or 15 minutes by means of technology instead of waiting in a long queue. The Department of Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, has significantly improved its services. As I stated in my reply to Deputy Kenny, some bodies are grappling and struggling along the way. However, people are beginning to see the benefits of it.

The Deputy asked whether the services could be combined under one Minister. I do not think that is possible but it is important that people work together. We have emphasised that CMOD in the Department of Finance and the Department of Communications, Marine and Natural Resources should work closely together in this regard. I accept that point because that is the best way to get value for money, enhance developments and roll out the positive achievements. There is a need for close co-operation and compatibility with the type of software and hardware used. I accept those points because we are spending quite considerable resources within the Civil Service to try to meet this progress. As I stated, the Minister for Communications, Marine and Natural Resources, Deputy Noel Dempsey, is working closely with the industry on broadband. It is a priority of this Government to try to roll out broadband as extensively and as quickly as we can throughout the country.

Consultancy Contracts.

Enda Kenny

Question:

7 Mr. Kenny asked the Taoiseach the consultants engaged by his Department since June 1997; the purpose of each assignment; the projected cost and actual cost of each assignment; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [30010/05]

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin

Question:

8 Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin asked the Taoiseach the consultants engaged by his Department since 1997; the projected cost of each assignment and the actual cost; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [31428/05]

Trevor Sargent

Question:

9 Mr. Sargent asked the Taoiseach the number of consultancy contracts commissioned by his Department, or the boards and agencies under the auspices of his Department since 1997; the purpose and costs of each consultancy; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [31434/05]

Pat Rabbitte

Question:

10 Mr. Rabbitte asked the Taoiseach the number of contracts valued in excess of €50,000 awarded by him to outside consultants in respect of each year since 2000; the recipient of the contract in each case; the details of the work covered by the contract; the original estimate of the cost of the contract; the final amount paid in respect of each such contract; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [31497/05]

Joe Higgins

Question:

11 Mr. J. Higgins asked the Taoiseach the projected and actual cost of consultancy contracts commissioned by his Department since 1997; and the purpose of each assignment. [36866/05]

I propose to take Questions Nos. 7 to 11, inclusive, together.

I propose to circulate with the Official Report a table which gives details of consultants engaged by my Department since 1997. A second table to be circulated gives details of consultants engaged by bodies under the aegis of my Department during the same period. A third table gives details of the number of contracts above €50,000 in each year since 2000.

Every effort is made by my Department to minimise expenditure on consultancy services. However, where it is necessary to engage consultants in order to avail of their particular expertise or experience, the procurement of consultancy services is subject to public procurement guidelines and, where applicable, EU procurement rules and guidelines, with selection criteria geared to select the most economically advantageous tender. It is also our policy that in so far as it is possible, skills-transfer from consultants to departmental staff takes place as an integral part of all consultancy engagements.

The purpose of this is to increase the knowledge and expertise of departmental staff and to reduce and, if possible, eliminate future dependance on consultants in the areas concerned.

Table 1: Department of the Taoiseach.

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1997-2001

Mr. Noel Dorr

Personal Representative of the Taoiseach on the Carlsson Group

38,961

38,961

1998 (Phase 1)1999 (Phase 2)

St. John’s University New York & ESRI

A study to consider and evaluate the economic, budgetary and administrative impact of the introduction of a basic income system

34,283(Phase 1)97,521(Phase 2)

34,283(Phase 1)97,521(Phase 2)

1998/1999

William M. Mercer & Associates

Consultancy services in respect of the development of a Performance Management system for the Irish Civil Service

26,621

26,621

1999

Farrell Grant Sparks

Business Planning Templates

4,897

4,897

1999

PA Consulting

Audit of Year 2000 Contingency Plans

8,888

8,888

1999

Prospectus Consultants

Feasibility Study into the establishment of a training facility for IFSC companies

6,349

6,349

1999

Institute of Public Administration

Development and delivery of Phase 1 of the Department of the Taoiseach’s Career Development Programme

75, 232

66,723

1999-2000

Professors Rory O’Donnell and Paul Teague

To evaluate partnership at work in Ireland

50,789

50,789

1999

Deloitte and Touche

Business Analysis and Review of the Financial Management Function

46,691

46,691

2000-2002

PricewaterhouseCoopers

e-Cabinet Feasibility Study

152,094

152,094

2000

Drury Communications

Consultancy/PR services in respect of the development of the PMDS pack and supply of promotional material for launch event2

37,745

37,745

2000

Institute of Public Administration

Consultancy services in respect of development of Guidelines for Strategy Statements

4,916

4,916

2000

BFK Design Ltd.

Development and design of elements of the PMDS packs2

16,912

16,912

2001

Hay Management Consultants

Design and development of effective systems of feedback within the Performance Management and Development System (PMDS)2

45,774

45,774

2001

Dr. Jane Pillinger

Research Report on Equality Diversity and Quality Customer Service2

38,700

38,700

2001

Arthur Andersen

Management Information Framework

93,440

93,440

2001

Dr. Tom McCarthy, NUI Maynooth

Research for Consultation Document: Towards Better Regulation2

7,500

6,692

2001-2002

Sureskills

Windows 2000 implementation

147,908

147,908

2001-2002

Mr. Alex Matheson, OECD

Participation on Steering Group for the Evaluation of the Strategic Management Initiative2

14,014

14,014

2001

PA Consulting Group

Evaluation of the Strategic Management Initiative2

471,036

491,992

2001

Institute of Public Administration

Preparation of HR Strategy Guidelines document2

18,284

18,284

2001-2002

Oracle

Management Information Framework

229,623

229,623

2001

Deloitte & Touche

Value for Money Audit of Mobile Phone services

7,618

7,618

2001

IBEC

Review of Health & Safety

4,889

4,889

2001

Hosca Management Consultants

Consultancy services for carrying out an Employee Opinion Survey

12,168

14,613

2002

Octagon

IT Strategic Review

8,400

8,400

2002

Dr. Patrick Butler

Evaluation of Customer Action Plans2

32,000

32,000

2002

Prof. Philip Lane

Commentary on Better Regulation Submissions2

4,500

4,500

2002

Peter White

Consultancy regarding communications for the Civil Service modernisation programme

850

850

2002

KPMG Consulting (Bearing Point)

Implementation of a Human Resource Management System

88,000

87,695

2003

Watson Wyatt

Consultancy services for carrying out an Employee Opinion Survey

25,410

25,410

2003

Watson Wyatt

Consultancy services for carrying out an Employee Opinion Survey — further reports

14,520

14,520

2003

Grayling Gilmore PR Consultants*

EU Presidency Logo Launch & Public Relations Campaign

60,000

60,000

2003

Jacobs & Associates

Consultancy on regulatory reform policy2

12,947

12,947

2003

Professor Martin Cave, Warwick Business School

Consultancy on regulatory reform policy2

575

575

2003

Fujitsu Services

E-Cabinet Security Policy

15,730

15,730

2003

Lansdowne Market Research

Irish Civil Service — Customer Satisfaction Survey report2

36,000

36,000

2003

NGM Market Research

Communicating Change and Modernisation in the Civil Service report2

15,000

15,000

2003

Enterprise LSE

London School of Economics to provide training course for Irish Officials in relation to regulation2

50,820

38,879

2003

Carr Communications

Development and delivery of Phase II of the Department of the Taoiseach’s Career Development Programme

68,100

62,646

2004

Eurokom

Security Review

7,650

7,650

2004

Red Dog Design

EU Presidency Awareness Campaign

65,740

65,740

2004

Carr Communications

Disability Bill

12,147

12,147

2004

Good Practice Ltd

Tailoring of on-line toolkit for Department Intranet

33,350

33,350

2004

McCann Fitzgerald Solicitors

Research and preparation of report — Redress for Civil Service Customers2

45,375

76,894

2004

Watson Wyatt

Employee Opinion Survey

27,947

27,947

2004

The Design Consultancy

Step by Step Guide to the PMDS System

4,719

4,719

2004

Paddy Walley

Ingenuity Project

6,000

6,000

2004

Grayling Gilmore

PR re EU Presidency

21,023

21,023

2004

Red Dog Design

EU Presidency Posters

2,060

2,060

2004

David Donaghy

Day of Welcomes production

28,900

28,900

2004

Academic Conferences Ltd

ECEG Conference Management

36,300

36,300

2004

Jacobs & Associates

Preparation of report for EU Conference on Better Regulation2

18,876

18,876

2004

Dr Patrick Paul Walsh, Trinity College Dublin

Preparation of report for EU Conference on Better Regulation2

5,250

5,250

2004

HCM International

Research on the integration of the Performance Management and Development System (PMDS) with HR policies and processes2

39,930

Nil (ongoing)

2004

Zerflow

E-Cabinet Security Assessment

5,929

5,929

2004-2005

Goodbody Economic Consultants

Economic assistance to Departments/Offices piloting regulatory Impact Analysis2

21,780

21,054 ongoing

2004

RTE

EU Presidency Consultancy Services

35,256

35,256

2004-2005

Mercer Human Resource Consulting

Review of the Performance Management and Development System (PMDS) Evaluation results for technical and professional staff2

15,125

15,125

2004 & 2005

Des Geraghty

Promotion of the Affordable Housing Initiative

3,675

3,675

2005

IQ Content

Usability & Accessibility Review of websites

37,890

19,239

2005

Tansey, Webster & Co

Affordable Housing Proposal

9,680

9,680

2005

Hay Group (Ireland) Ltd

Business Plan Facilitation

3,876

3,876

2005

Pan Research Ltd

Customer Service Evaluation Report

6,313

6,313

2005

Enterprise LSE

London School of Economics to provide a training course for Irish Officials on regulation2

59,600

41,443

2005

Fitzpatrick Associates

Research Project on the Special Initiatives under Sustaining Progress

37,207

37,207

2005

Institute of Public Administration

Research in relation to mapping of regulatory framework2

21,780

13,310 to date

2005

Grant Thornton

Retention of Accountants on behalf of the National Implementation Body

60,000

Nil (Ongoing)

* Met from funds provided by Department of Foreign Affairs.

2 Costs met from Change Management Fund, administered by the Department of Finance.

Table 2: Bodies under the Aegis of the Department of the Taoiseach. - Information Society Commission

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

April 1998-2001

Edelman Public Relations

Engaged on a retainer basis to manage a communications and media strategy for the ISC

152,115

152,115

April 1998 to June 1999

The Learning Organisation

Cyril Drury an educational expert was engaged to assist the Learning Advisory Group in the preparation of a report on the non-formal environment for learning and information and communications technology

34,992

34,992

1998

Lansdowne Market Research

Appointed to carry out the Public and Business Survey

61,455

61,455

1999

MRBI

Research survey of the general public designed to establish levels of awareness of, and engagement with, the technologies associated with the evolving Information Society

35,951

35,951

1999

MRBI

Survey of Irish businesses to establish awareness of technology

23,814

23,814

July to November 1999

Edelman Worldwide

PR Consultancy for Netd@ys

66,026

66,026

November 1999

MRBI

Update of 1999 research survey to assess the impact of Netd@ys

12,214

12,214

2000

MRBI

Research into awareness and usage of information and communications technology amongst Irish businesses

21,332

21,332

2000

MRBI

Research into General Public Awareness and Usage of Information and Communications Technology 2000

32,355

32,355

2000

NW Labs

To examine the issues of convergency and the implications for telecommunications communications regulation for Ireland

26,977

26,977

2000

Centre for Research in Technology in Education

Research material for seminar

20,890

20,890

2000

Dunnion Partners

Development of Government websites review and report

4,609

4,609

2000

KPMG

Tax incentives & barriers to e working in Ireland

6,349

6,349

2000

Farrell Grant Sparks

Research into future needs for Ireland’s development as an Information Society

30,669

30,669

2001

Chapman Flood Mazars

Auditing services supplied for Equalskills initiative

19,600

19,600

2002

Chinook Consulting

Evaluation of Equalskills Initiative

18,165

18,165

2002

ElectricNews.net

Production of e-Government Ireland Bulletin

24,040

24,040

2002

Text 100

Messaging Workshop of ISC members

6,655

6,655

2002

MRBI

Business survey on attitudes to the Information Society in Ireland

28,740

28,740

2002

MRBI

General Public survey on attitudes to the Information Society in Ireland

56,628

56,628

2002-2003

Models Research (now Itech Research)

Consultancy and report on inclusive Information Society Development

59,931

59,931

2002

Accenture

Consultancy and report on a National e-Payments strategy

155,334

155,334

2002-2005

Fleischman-Hillard Saunders

Engaged on a retainer basis to manage a communications and media strategy for the ISC

133,677

133,677

2003

Parallel IT

Electronic Document Management Exchange

13,613

13,613

2003

Sonas Innovation

Consultancy and report on Ireland’s Broadband Future

49,610

49,610

2003

DCU

Research on Perspectives of Information Society Thinkers

6,655

6,655

2003

ESRI

Analysis of General Public and Business Surveys 1996-2002

7,260

7,260

2004

Version 1 Software

Report on the assessment of the e-Health progress and potential benefits

48,400

48,400

National Forum on Europe

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

2002

Keating and Associates

Media Strategy and market Survey

6,278

6,278

2002-2005

Caroline Erskine

PR Consultancy

ongoing

188,628

2002-2005

Conor Joyce

PR Consultancy

85,568

85,568

All-Party Committee on the Constitution

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1999

IT Assist

Advice on e mail and internet systems

461

461

December 1997

Brian Murphy

PR — regarding launch of 2nd Progress Report

317

317

1997

Datapac

Installation of computer network

922

922

1997/98

Coakley/Laver

Study on the future of Seanad Éireann

1,270

1,270

1998

Dr Richard Synott

Research on Referendum

1,270

1,270

1998

Lansdowne Market Research

Research on Referendum Voting

6,914

6,914

1998

Gerard Hogan SC

Honorarium for legal drafting on constitutional amendments

3,073

3,073

1999

Laura Rattigan BL

Legal Research

1,663

1,663

1999

Frank Farrell In-house Services

Creation of a database to record public submissions on the Committee’s Reports

190

190

2000

Moss Technologies

Year 2000 Compliance

307

307

2000

Sureskills.com

IT support

3,687

3,687

2001

Gerard Hogan S.C.

Research on Referenda

480

480

2000-2001

Shelbourne Public Affairs

PR

16,837

16,837

2000

Sureskills.com

IT Support

3,687

3,687

2000-2001

Diarmuid Rossa Phelan

Legal research

6,200

6,200

2001

Richard Humphreys

Research on rights

16,349

16,349

2002

Seán de Fréine

Feasibility study

500

500

2002-2003

Donal Ó Maolfabhaile

PR Consultancy

11,600

11,600

Tribunal of Inquiry (Payments to Messrs. Charles Haughey and Michael Lowry)

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1999 to date

Baker Consultants

Design, implement and host a Web site

12,978

12,978

1999

Moss Technology Limited

Year 2000 compliance report and follow up

6,352

6,352

1999

Confidential

Legal consultancy in relation to the Moriarty Tribunal

7,536

7,536

2000

Confidential

Commercial research

3,851

3,851

2001

Ionet Ltd

Demonstration

107

107

2001

Moss technology

Report on Tribunal IT network and system

3,055

3,055

2003

Peter Bacon & Associates

Specialist Data

46,948

46,948

2004

Peter Bacon & Associates

Analysis and Advice

50,820

50,820

National Centre for Partnership and Performance

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

2001-2002

Bradley McGurk Partnership

Corporate Identity

25,242

25,242

2001

Woodgrange Consultancies

Irish Times 2000

7,999

7,999

2001

Bill Roche

Consultative Process and Strategic Planning

31,743

31,743

2001

Tom Neville

Guidelines on Organisational change

20,570

20,570

2001-2003

Bradley McGurke

Corporate Identity

1,116

1,116

2002

Options Consultancy

Information & Consultation Project

5,445

5,445

2002-2003

Options Consultancy

Learning Strategy

14,425

14,425

2003

Tom Neville

Employee Financial Involvement

30,949

30,949

2003

Paern Kandola

Competency Development

11,206

11,206

2003

ESRI

Surveys (Forum on the Workplace of the Future)

76,481

76,481

2003

Align Management Solutions

Health Strategy using a Partnership Approach

7,000

7,000

2003

Roy Greene

Scoping paper (Forum on the Workplace of the Future)

4,980

4,980

2003

Maria Maguire

Scoping paper (Forum on the Workplace of the Future)

26,988

26,988

2003

John Geary

Scoping paper (Forum on the Workplace of the Future)

5,600

5,600

2003

Align Management Solutions

Consultation paper (Forum on the Workplace of the Future)

1,400

1,400

2004

Brian Moss

Forum on the Workplace of the Future

9,600

9,600

2004

William Roche

Forum on the Workplace of the Future

13,1987

13,198

2004

Maria Maguire

Forum on the Workplace of the Future

13,673

13,673

2004

John Caden

Public Relations

83,445

83,445

2004

ESRI

Surveys (Forum on the Workplace of the Future)

28,785

28,785

2005

Maria Maguire

Forum on the Workplace of the Future

11,514

11,514

National Economic and Social Forum

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1998

Advance Organisation and Management Development

Consultancy work for the Forum relating to Project Teams

14,221

14,221

1999

Hay Consultants, D. Halloran and C. O’Connell

Social Housing

10,351

10,351

1999

Anne Clarke

Local Employment Services

8,386

8,386

2000

Agtel

Social Housing

38,092

38,092

2000

NI Housing Executive

Social Housing

7,389

7,389

2000

Hay Consultants

Labour Shortages

2,920

2,920

2001

Kieran McKeown

Lone Parents

6,223

6,223

2000

Anne Clark

Lone Parents

4,400

4,400

2000

NUI Maynooth

Lone Parents

7,927

7,927

2000

Goodbody

Draft opinion on National Anti-Poverty Strategy

3,143

3,143

2000

UCD (Equality Studies Centre)

Draft Opinion on Equality issues

18,056

18,056

2001

Tamarron

Work on NESF Report No. 23

5,079

5,079

2002

ESRI (Emer Smyth)

Early School Leavers

3,892

3,892

2002

Eithne Fitzgerald

Older workers

3,600

3,600

2002

Jerry Sexton

Older workers

15,392

15,392

2002

ESRI Survey

Older workers

15,730

15,730

2002

ESRI Questionnaire

Social Capital

12,342

12,342

2002

Ann Clarke

Older workers

3,282

3,282

2003

Mary Murphy

Child Income support paper

1,440

1,440

2004

Ita Mangan

Co-op

3,030

3,030

2005

Colm Harmon

Early Childhood Care and Education

6,323

6,323

2005

RAND Europe

Evidence Based Policy Making Seminar

£6,737stg.

£6,737stg.

2005

WRC Consultants

Creating a more inclusive labour market

15,094

15,094

2005

Patricia Quinn

Cultural Citizenship

15,150

15,150

2005

Eustace Patterson

Creating a more inclusive labour market

4,292

4,292

National Economic and Social Council

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1999

Dr John Sweeney & Dr Kieran McKeown Social and Economic Research Consultant

Preparing background documents for Strategy Report

14,365

14,365

1999

Dr John Geary Michael Smurfit Graduate School of Business UDC

Preparing background documents for Strategy Report

5,333

5,333

1999

Dr Richard Boyle Institute of Public Administration

Preparing background documents for Strategy Report

5,377

5,377

1999

ITG Computers

Testing equipment for Year 2000 compliance

3,285

3,285

2001

ESRI

Research re Strategic review of Tax and Welfare system under PPF

12,697

12,697

2001

Síle O’Connor

Research for reports 107 & 108

6,984

6,984

2001

J Visser

Paper for Report No 111

13,069

13,069

2001

Indecon Consultants

Regional Development in the North West

21,202

21,202

2003

Edgeworth Organisational Consultants

PR Consultancy

1,200

1,200

2004

UPE Consultancy Ltd

Housing Workshop

7,139

7,139

2004

Kathleen Scanlon

Housing Workshop

889

889

2004

Bill O’Herlihy Communications

Professional Services for NESC’s 30th Anniversary Conference

3,779

3,779

2004

Katholieke Universiteit

Housing Workshop

3,147

3,147

2004

Professor G. Meen

Housing Workshop

1,538

1,538

2004

Bill O’Herlihy Communications

Professional Services for EESC Conference

3,025

3,025

2004

Intl. Org. for Migration

Consultancy fees for NESC Migration Policy Study

119,692

119,692

2005

O’Herlihy Communications

Professional Services for media coverage of housing report

4,273

4,273

2005

Ms Bernadette Andreosso

Consultancy fees for “Ireland & Globalisation” Strategy report

7,000

7,000

Campus & Stadium Ireland Development Ltd

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

Up to December 2000

PricewaterhouseCoopers

Feasibility studies

602,906

Up to December 2000

McCann Fitzgerald

Legal Consultancy

13,346

Up to December 2000

Wilson Hartnell

Public Relations

70,531

Up to December 2000

RIAI

Architectural consultancy

19,046

Up to December 2000

Deloitte & Touche

Tax Consultancy

15,872

National Millennium Committee

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1999

BDO Simpson Xavier Consulting

Detailed assessment of a proposal for a Millennium Tower (the old Jameson chimney at Smithfield in Dublin)

6,299

1999 to 2001

Peter Owens DDB

Advertising/information campaign

413,047

1999 to 2001

CMS Marketing (Century Merchandising)

Public Relations Work

392,883

1999 to 2001

Pembroke Communication

Public Relations Work

107,350

2000

Irish Film & Television Network

Millennium Event Guide

31,491

1999 to 2001

Fusio Limited

Design, set up website

26,362

1999 to 2001

BFK Design Limited

Design of the Millennium Logo, put the logo on disc for use by authorised bodies, and to create large backdrops for use at various Millennium launches

41,372

Referendum Commission (operated in 1998)

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1998

Drury Communications

PR Consultants on the Northern Ireland Referendum

2,367,098*

*(of which €141,731 was media consultancy management fee; the balance was sub-contractor/supplier expenditure via media consultants)

Communicating Europe

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1997

International Music Event

Europe Day Concert

34,854

1997

Patsy McArdle

Production of Euro link column

9,523

Local Development (Transferred from Taoiseach’s Vote in 1997)

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1997

Keating & Associates

Operational Programme for Urban & Rural Development

20,617

1997

Goodbody Economic Consultants

External Evaluation of Operational Programme

75,975

1997

EPS Computer Systems

Computer System for Local Development

35,831

Western Development (Transferred from Taoiseach’s Vote in 1997)

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1997

Brendan McKenna

Updating Aran Islands

1,521

1997

Centre for Adult Education

Public Services in Rural Areas

12,697

Devolution Commission (Transferred from Taoiseach’s Vote in 1997)

Year of Contract

Supplier

Purpose

Estimated Cost

Total Expenditure

1997

Lansdowne Market Research

Survey on Attitudes to Local Government

62,523

Table 3: Number of Consultancy Contracts above €50,000.

Year

Department of the Taoiseach

2000

1

2001

4

2002

1

2003

2

2004

2

2005

1

I thank the Taoiseach for including the tables.

One of the most expensive contracts issued by the Department of the Taoiseach in recent years was the €500,000 spent on the evaluation of the strategic management initiative in 2001. That is a significant expenditure in any event. What recommendations from that particular consultancy report have been put in place to justify that level of expenditure? What sort of recommendations were made in that evaluation that have since been implemented? I will wait and see what the tables that the Taoiseach will circulate will show.

As the Deputy will be aware, the work of the strategic management initiative, which really commenced in 1992, was centred in my Department for the entire Government area. It was not just for my Department.

That report started the work on the financial management in Departments, on the human resources management in Departments and on many other guidelines that have been set out for various systems' improvements in Departments. There were not people in the Government system who were capable of dealing with that. I have listed a breakdown of the various initiatives that happened under that but, by and large, it was to try to improve the modernisation and change management agenda across a range of Departments. The Department's modernisation programme represented some of those costs and related to the implementation of modernisation initiatives, but the costs went mainly on the modern financial management and the human resources management systems. There were some other ones, including performance management and development systems. It has proved to be highly successful. We now have very modern financial management systems.

The reason for outside engagement in this was the move to accrual accounting, which we had not got in Departments previously. Up until then the entire system operated on a cash basis. The moves in recent years to develop an accrual accounts system make it far more modern. They make it similar to that which would probably apply in industry, but it was always done previously on a cash basis where one had the carry-over rather than the accrual system.

Equally, there have been substantial savings. Up until we introduced, a few years after 2001, the human resource management system, issues were recorded but one did not have the ability to get the breakdowns and the information on staffing and costs, expenditures on telephones, allowances and such issues which are now built into the HR system. That has proved to be very effective in my Department and I am sure right across the system. The work that was undertaken over the years on this has now proved that we have a very modern financial reporting system.

Does the Taoiseach's Department, and indeed all Departments, operate a standard scale of fees for consultancy work? Is there a tendering process operated for such work in the same way as for Government contracts? Is there a particular threshold over which his Department is obliged to put consultancy work out to tender? Can he tell us whether there has been any comparison done between comparable in-house work in Departments and consultancy secured labour in order that we would have some idea of the cost benefit analysis, the standard of the work, whether the competency exists within the Department and whether it is necessary to opt for consultancy work?

The procurement of consultancy services in my Department is subject to the public procurement guidelines of the Department of Finance and they are set out in the Guidelines for Engagement of Consultants in the Civil Service of 1999. There have been some amendments to those, but not many. Procurement of outside expertise in the public relations field is also subject to public procurement guidelines as set out in the 2004 Department of Finance publication and the Public Procurement Guidelines Competitive Process, which replaced the previous Department of Finance guidelines entitled Public Procurement 1994 Edition — Green Book. That is the basis by which all contracts are governed. Any contract must fulfil those regulations, and the section, the Accounting Officer and the financial people in each Department must satisfy the arrangements as set out in those documents.

In addition, the procurement of these services is also subject to the applicable EU procurement rules and guidelines. Since early this year additional guidelines have been specifically put in place for communications consultancies and that is now incorporated into the Cabinet handbook. Most recently a number of new measures were announced which will contribute to improving the management and value for money aspects of consultancies, and the Deputy will be familiar with those.

On the Department of Finance guidelines for engagement of consultants, the way we operate these in my Department is we try to avoid needing consultants in the first place, if we have the expertise within the Department. As I mentioned on IT, we managed to do without them totally because we were lucky enough to have people with third level qualifications in this area who were able to form a project team. This is not always the case.

A consultant transfers skills or expertise to an organisation, which either does not possess these in-house or requires an independent evaluation assessment to be made. These are the two circumstances in which we would get outside consultants: where we do not have the relevant specialists in the Department and where we think the work concerned requires an independent evaluation of the way we are doing it, or where it is questioned and we believe, for internal audit or other purposes, that maybe there is another way.

Work done by outsiders is often not considered to be consultancy. A definition in the 1999 regulations states that the engagement of non-permanent staff to carry out the work of the office, where it is staff substitution, is not consultancy. If there are contracted services, the purchase of ongoing and essential routine services for a specified period, maintenance and so on, these are not consultancy. Neither is expenditure on software development from analysis to implementation because this involves developing the system, not consultancy. These are the definitions.

The Deputy makes a good point. When we employ consultancy for a particular purpose we try to fully engage the staff of the Civil Service in the work involved so that when a similar job arises, perhaps in another section, at least the civil servants will be familiar with procedures. This also has attractions for civil servants as regards training. We try to avoid replicating consultancy work in different sections and paying for it all again. The Deputy makes a valid point, and certainly in my Department what is being done cuts down on expenditure. The figures from my Department indicate that we do not use very many consultancies for this reason.

One initiative my Department takes which costs money but gives value is that it encourages staff to embark on further education through night classes. The fees are paid and they are given time off. This helps to build up expertise within the Departments. There is always the danger that they may transfer from the Department, but it is preferable, at least, that they remain in the Civil Service system.

Given that the Book of Estimates submitted in recent weeks indicates less money in each category on consultancy expenditure for every Department, does the Government expect to make less use of consultancies in the coming year? Is this recognition that there has been an overuse of consultancies in the past? Given that parliamentary questions have been answered to the effect that since 1998, across all Departments, there have been more than——

This question refers specifically to the Department of the Taoiseach.

I am getting to the Department of the Taoiseach.

I would prefer if the Deputy would come directly to it.

There have been 3,000 consultancies in general by the Government. The Taoiseach has indicated earlier that we will be supplied with tables to indicate how that applies specifically to his Department. We have not been given the answers as regards overall cost. Without the House having the tables directly before us, will the Taoiseach at least tell us beforehand the number of consultancies that have applied to his Department and the overall cost?

The number is 70 consultancies across my Department, effectively for a nine-year period. That is about an average of eight per annum. A good number of those relate to the change management agenda under CMOD, as indicated in my answer to Deputy Kenny. Some of those are paid for by them as well as the performance and development issues. Some of them relate to the period for the year before and during the EU Presidency. In departmental terms there is not a great deal. In the social policy area, surrounding social partnership issues in the main, there are eight. On independent evaluations — the point I was making to Deputy Ó Caoláin — there are two. The Civil Service modernisation programme, which is the big one, accounts for 28. There is only one for IT, namely, the one I spoke about in my answer to Deputy Kenny. In training and career development there are three. In ICT there are three, seven for the Presidency, seven under the heading e-Cabinet and four that do not fall into any of these categories. Money spent over the period amounted to €2,818,388. Most of these projects would have involved enhancements, improvements and developments.

It is the task of every Department to determine whether it is overusing the system. I hope my Department does not. However, at least there is some focus to the effect that if it happens, it occurs sparingly and under the two categories I have mentioned: either to enhance an existing system or develop a new one; or where an outside appraisal is required. The more internal staff who can do the work the better. My Department is not large, with just over 220 people working in it. However, we try hard not to become involved in consultancies unless something meaningful is required. A fair degree of thought is put into that.

The next batch of questions on social partnership is important. The House would not do them justice in the time available, so I had better think of something to ask the Taoiseach about this list.

Does he believe this is the nature of modern government? Even though this does not relate to a line Minister and it is his Department, there are pages and pages of consultancies. Is it unreasonable to expect that some of the work indicated should be discharged by civil servants employed by the State or is this the way of the future? There are literally pages and pages. Some of them are quite mysterious and I have no idea what they are about. Under the Moriarty tribunal heading one finds €50,000 paid to Peter Bacon & Associates for analysis and advice. I do not know what that is about. There are two separate items under the same heading that indicate the supplier is "confidential". I do not know what that is about. There are things such as €50,000 to the London School of Economics, for the provision of a training course on regulation. I do not know what that is. Perhaps the Taoiseach did not pay his fees at the time or something.

I want to ask, in particular, about the parliamentary reply given to the House by the Minister of State with responsibility for transport, Deputy Callely, where he said in respect of the recent advertisements in which he featured so prominently: "The advertisements in question were commissioned by the Dublin Transportation Office as part of a public information campaign——

That matter does not arise out of this question which refers specifically to the Department of the Taoiseach.

——for Operation Freeflow." I asked the question in terms of the Taoiseach's responsibility for the code of practice for office holders.

The matter does not arise out of this question.

In a subsequent letter to my colleague, Deputy Shortall, from the Dublin Transportation Office, it is made clear——

I would prefer if the Deputy did not pursue that line. It is totally out of order. The Deputy is aware that there are many ways open to him to raise this matter, but not out of this question, which refers specifically to the Department of the Taoiseach.

It is clear to the DTO that the Minister of State intruded himself uninvited——

I ask the Deputy to resume his seat and allow the Taoiseach to answer his legitimate question.

I know that it is unbelievable that the Minister of State might do such a thing. Does the Taoiseach have a view on this?

I ask Deputy Rabbitte to resume his seat.

As stated, there have been 70 consultancies over the period in my Department and I have given the breakdown. It represents an average of about €300,000 per annum. I have outlined most of the work involved. I do not have the details of some of the smaller projects and have just given the information on the larger ones. However, when the full schedules are available, I shall be pleased to answer questions or get further information as regards individual projects.

Deputy Rabbitte's general point on whether it is now a trend that more consultancies are being employed across Departments is valid. My Department is relatively sparing in this regard. We use consultancies where the expertise is not available within the Department; where something additional is involved, as was the case with the EU Presidency, the change management agenda where someone is brought in to advise, or where an independent assessment is needed, as has happened in only a few cases.

On the Deputy's question as to whether there are more consultancies, with regard to the level, scale and examination of decisions made, whether by the House, Oireachtas committees or the outside world, increasingly, public servants, including those in my Department will consider getting the assessments and the analysis of would-be experts. The Deputy and I might often argue whether they are experts. I detect that people are becoming more protective and are watching what they do to a greater extent than was the case some years ago. Whether that is good is open to debate, but it is happening. It is not that the money is wasted, but the nature of decisions and the fact that we have an increasing number of regulators with whom Departments find themselves in debate mean that Departments must be armed with more sophisticated replies than they believe they can produce. The complexity of our work and its sheer size with the complexity of its examination have led to a different position than has previously been the case.

Top
Share