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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 4 Oct 2007

Vol. 638 No. 5

Land and Conveyancing Law Reform Bill 2006 [Seanad]: Second Stage.

I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

Notice taken that 20 Members were not present; House counted and 20 Members being present,

I am very pleased to have the opportunity to introduce the Land and Conveyancing Law Reform Bill 2006 in this House. At the outset, I want to put on record, and pay tribute to, the significant contribution made to the process of statute law reform in this country by my predecessor in office, Michael McDowell. This Bill is but one of many initiatives he took during his period as Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform to update and modernise our laws in order to bring them more into line with modern conditions and meet the needs of the 21st century.

I am pleased to say the Bill received broad support from all sides on its way through Seanad Éireann and I look forward to a continuation of that broad support in this House. Also, the very detailed explanatory memorandum accompanying the Bill has been updated to take account of the various amendments agreed in the Seanad.

This Bill is major reforming legislation and it is the outcome of an innovative joint law reform project, launched in 2003, between my Department and the Law Reform Commission. Indeed, I had the pleasure in November 2004 of addressing a conference in the O'Reilly Hall at UCD on modernising Irish land and conveyancing law. The conference had been organised as part of the extensive consultation process which followed completion of the first phase of the joint project.

The Bill is undoubtedly a technical and complex piece of draft legislation but the comprehensive reforms contained in it will bring many benefits for private individuals and businesses alike in the years ahead. It is important to appreciate that, in all modern economies, an efficient system of title registration and transfer is essential for economic growth and is one of the key factors identified as essential in the development of prosperous economies in the modern world.

Much of our current land and conveyancing law dates from the 19th century, while certain parts of it have their roots in far distant feudal times. This Bill is poised to bring it into the 21st century. I want briefly to explain the context of the preparation and publication of this Bill. The main purpose of the Bill is to engage in a comprehensive reform and modernisation of all our land and conveyancing laws. It does so by repealing, in whole or in part, the numerous pre-1922 statutes which make up our land and conveyancing code and replacing them, where necessary, with updated provisions more suited to modern conditions.

This Bill is part of a larger reform programme which includes the reforms already enacted in the Registration of Deeds and Title Act 2006. That Act established the Property Registration Authority with a mandate to promote and extend registration of title to land and it has also updated land registration procedures and processes. The ultimate goal of the reforms contained in last year's Act and this Bill is to pave the way for the introduction of a comprehensive system of electronic conveyancing of land, i.e. eConveyancing. Given the scale and ambition of this Bill, a strategic and research-intensive approach has been adopted by my Department and the Law Reform Commission from the outset of the project. The first phase involved the screening of the numerous pre-1922 statutes with a view to identifying those which could be repealed without replacement and, secondly, those which needed to be updated or replaced with provisions more suited to modern conditions. The results of this exercise were published in the Law Reform Commission's consultation paper, Reform and Modernisation of Land Law and Conveyancing Law, in 2004.

Publication of the consultation paper was followed by an extensive consultative process, including the conference to which I referred earlier at which distinguished experts in land and conveyancing law from this country and abroad discussed future reform options in light of experiences gained from reform initiatives in comparable common law jurisdictions. Valuable submissions were also received from representative bodies involved in the conveyancing system and from other relevant stakeholders.

The third phase of the project involved preparation of draft legislation to give effect to the Commission's definitive reform proposals following completion of the consultation process. The report entitled Reform and Modernisation of Land Law and Conveyancing Law, published in July 2005, contained the text of a draft land and conveyancing Bill. With the agreement of the then Attorney General, the former Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Deputy McDowell, subsequently wrote to the President of the Law Reform Commission suggesting that, given the unique collaboration and expertise involved in the project, finalisation of the text of a Bill for publication could best be achieved through the good offices of the commission and the continued involvement of those already closely associated with the project. The commission readily agreed and the Bill before us has been prepared by a drafting group which has continued to meet under the aegis of the Law Reform Commission.

Before proceeding, I want to place on the record of the House my sincere thanks, and that of Government, to the President of the Law Reform Commission, Mrs. Justice Catherine McGuinness, her predecessor in office, Mr. Justice Declan Budd, and the other commissioners for their enthusiastic commitment to, and support for, the joint project. I want also to thank Professor John Wylie, the foremost expert in land and conveyancing laws of these islands, for his input and sustained interest in the project and Mr. Marcus Bourke, former Parliamentary Counsel, who assisted in the drafting process. Finally, I acknowledge the input of the Law Reform Commission's substantive law working group which brings together many of the stakeholders and experts in the land and conveyancing law area.

I want to say a little now about the general subject matter of the Bill and to explain its scope and structure. Land is a finite and scarce resource and, prior to the development of a money-based economy, it was by far the most important source of wealth. Not only that, land ownership was a key determinant of social standing and political influence and power. It is not surprising, therefore, that those fortunate enough to own land often sought to ensure that it remained within the family from one generation to the next. Nevertheless, a new class of wealth emerged with the onset of the Industrial Revolution and barriers to the operation of a free market in land, which had already been weakened by the common law courts from the late feudal period onwards, were gradually dismantled. By the end of the 19th century, land was no longer regarded as a pre-eminent source of wealth and prestige.

The development of land law and conveyancing practices over the centuries reflects the tensions arising from this gradual transition from feudalism to a market-oriented economy based on industry and trade and the related processes of social change. In Ireland's case, there has been an added dimension. Much of our land law can only be understood in the context of our historical experience of confiscations and repossessions. Arrival of the Normans in the 12th century led to gradual introduction of the feudal system of land ownership and, at the beginning of the 17th century, to displacement of the old Brehon laws.

From the 16th century onwards, confiscation of land from the native owners was accompanied by successive plantations of English and Scottish settlers. The second half of the 19th century witnessed improvements in the rights of tenants and restoration of much of the country's agricultural land to tenant farmers under various land purchase schemes. While the Bill does not deal with the various land purchase Acts, a positive feature of that legislation is worth noting. Land purchase schemes provided loans for tenant farmers to purchase their holdings from landlords subject to annual repayments in the form of land purchase annuities. As these schemes involved the advancing of large amounts of public funds, it was considered that title to the lands in question, which formed security for the loans and which might have to be sold in the event of default, should be secured by means of registration of the title. That was the context in which the imperial parliament enacted the Local Registration of Title (Ireland) Act 1891, establishing the Land Registry and making the registration of title compulsory in all cases where land was purchased under the land purchase schemes. All of this land has remained within the registration of title system. The ongoing significance of the 1891 Act is that approximately 85% of land in the State, including almost all farmland, is now registered in the Land Registry. This is a sound foundation on which to complete the process of registering titles. I will return to registration issues later.

As the Title indicates, the Bill deals with land and conveyancing law. However, it is difficult in practice to draw a clear and rigid distinction between them. In general terms, land law deals with different types of ownership of land and the rights relating to each type of land while conveyancing law is more concerned with the transfer and disposal of land and rights relating to it whether by way of sale, lease, mortgage or other dealing. They are essentially two sides of the same coin and it makes good sense to deal with them in a single Bill rather than in separate sets of proposals.

Our current system of land and conveyancing law is a complex mixture of statutory provisions drawn from the historical influences of common law and equity. Successive layers of Statute law, the earliest of which dates back to the 13th century, include common law, namely, judicial rules developed over centuries in what were known before 1877 as common law courts, and equitable rights and remedies developed by what were known before 1877 as courts of chancery in response to shortcomings in the common law, have resulted in an unnecessarily complex code, much of which is difficult to apply to modern conditions. There is a pressing need to update and streamline this law in order to meet the needs of a vibrant market economy in the 21st century.

I want to stress that the Bill does not set out to codify into statutory form all our land and conveyancing laws. This would have involved attempting to distil and convert all relevant principles, judicial or legislative, into a common legislative code. Apart from the effort involved — such a project would have taken a considerable number of years — such a codification would inevitably increase the rigidity of the law and remove the flexibility and adaptability which is such a positive feature of our system. The ability of our courts to exercise their equitable jurisdiction in response to changing needs and circumstances is a valuable aspect of our system and needs to be preserved. Moreover, while every effort must be made to simplify the law and update its language, many words and terms of the law in this area have acquired a specific technical meaning and are used accordingly.

Consequently, the drafters of this Bill have had to bear in mind that changes in language could easily lead to confusion or, more seriously, have an unforeseen and unintended impact on substantive rights in land. It could also result in the abandonment of relevant case law and have other unintended consequences. Whereas we are making a fresh statutory departure, some old friends known to those of us who had to study them in law school will remain with us. This is essential for the accurate drafting of a measure of this type.

As the Law Reform Commission emphasised in its report, Statutory Drafting and Interpretation: Plain Language and the Law, while the use of plain language is desirable, this end should not be achieved at the expense of legal certainty, especially where certain words and grammatical constructions, though not in common use, have acquired a fixed and clear legal meaning. The Bill has five clear objectives: to update the law to accommodate modern conditions, to simplify the law to make it more easily understood and accessible to citizens, to simplify the conveyancing process particularly the procedures involved in order to reduce delays and associated costs, to promote extension of the registration of title system in the Land Registry and to facilitate the introduction of e-conveyancing of land as soon as possible. The Bill represents a substantial contribution to the process of regulatory reform including the repeal of obsolete and outdated statute law as set out in the White Paper, Regulating Better.

I do not propose to enter into great detail today in respect of the contents of the Bill, not least because it is accompanied by a comprehensive Explanatory Memorandum. Part 1 contains definitions of various terms used in the Bill and general provisions which are common in legislation of this nature. Section 8 repeals, in whole or in part, approximately 150 pre-1922 statutes listed in Schedule 2 and which stretch back over the centuries to feudal times. Part 2, comprising sections 9 to 14, deals with the fundamental provisions relating to the ownership of land. It contains important provisions which reform and modernise the ownership of land. In particular, it removes the remaining vestiges of the feudal system of landholding introduced by the Normans in the 12th century. For example, in so far as it survives, the concept of tenure, whereby all land was held from the Crown, is abolished. Also abolished are methods of landholding developed over the centuries to meet the needs of earlier times but which are no longer of relevance to modern conditions or will cease to have significance as a result of other provisions of the Bill. Examples include fee tails, where an estate was entailed to particular members of a family; fee farm grants, which were popular in this jurisdiction but not in others where one had, in effect, a perpetual leasehold; and leases for lives, an analogous Irish device where land was leased for a number of lives.

On the other hand, the Bill retains the concept of an estate in land which was also part of the feudal system but which remains a central and useful feature of the modern system of land ownership. The idea of dividing ownership according to different periods of time is what makes land ownership under a common law system so flexible. It is based on the fundamental principle that what is owned is not the physical land but rather an estate, giving substantial rights in respect of the land, such as the right to occupy and use it, or an interest, giving less substantial rights in it, for example, a right of way over a road on the land or a right to cut and take away turf or gather seaweed on a foreshore. The full ownership of any particular piece of land comprises these various estates and interests, including equitable interests such as those existing under a trust which has among its assets land. It is worth noting that Article 10.1 of the Constitution refers expressly to estates and interests in the context of natural resources.

How many of these various estates and interests will exist in respect of a particular area of land will vary from case to case. As I mentioned earlier, as part of its objective of simplifying the law, the Bill substantially reduces the number of estates which may be created in future. For example, it provides that the only legal estates which may be created or disposed of are the freehold estate, meaning a fee simple in possession, and the leasehold estate, meaning a tenancy in the modern sense of a relationship between landlord and tenant. It may surprise Members to learn that there is a great number of estates still recognised in Irish law, encountered infrequently but encountered all the same, which will be terminated on the enactment of this legislation.

Part 3 introduces a substantial simplification of the law concerning future interests in land and, in some cases, such interests in other property. Future interests are interests that do not vest in, that is do not come into the possession of, the persons entitled to them until a fixed or determinable future date, usually because the land or other property is vested in someone else in the meantime. The law in this area must strike a balance between the wishes of those who want to fetter the ownership of land for a period of time and the requirement of the law that land should be marketable and that interest should be realisable.

Part 4 provides for a radical simplification of the law relating to settlements and trusts of land. Currently, many settlements do not involve the use of a trust. Instead, the land is given by a deed or will to different persons in succession. Sometimes a trust is used instead and the land is given to trustees to be held by them on trust for the beneficiaries. The type of trust used may vary from one case to another. In some cases, the trustees may be required to retain the land. In others, the trust may require the trustees to sell the land at the earliest opportunity, invest the proceeds and hold those investments instead for the beneficiaries.

The law governing settlements and trusts has become very complicated. One reason is that while the Settled Land Acts 1882 to 1890 apply to settlements without any trust, usually referred to as a strict settlement, and trusts to retain land, they do not apply in the same way to trusts for sale. Part 4 clears up this confusion by replacing the Settled Land Acts with a single and much more straightforward trust of land scheme. An important feature of the scheme is that the legal title to the land will always be vested in trustees and they will have full powers of dealing with it and using it for the benefit of the beneficiaries.

Part 5 deals with powers relating to property, both land and personal property, especially powers of appointment. These powers are commonly used in family settlements and trusts where, instead of allocating property directly to named beneficiaries, the owner gives another person, called the donee of the power, a power to appoint, that is select from a group of potential beneficiaries, called the objects of the power, which of them are to be beneficiaries and in what shares.

Part 6 deals with the law relating to co-ownership of land, that is cases where the legal title to the land is vested in two or more persons concurrently. Two types of co-ownership remain common nowadays: the joint tenancy and the tenancy in common.

The distinguishing feature of a joint tenancy is the so-called right of survivorship whereby on the death of a joint tenant, that owner's interest ceases and the land becomes vested in the surviving joint tenants. This process continues until the land becomes vested in the last surviving joint tenant as sole owner and the co-ownership ends. That type of joint tenancy is convenient in the case of a married couple who have bought a house and who wish the house to be left to the surviving spouse in the event of the death of one spouse. It ensures that the surviving spouse owns the property. In the case of a tenancy in common, on the other hand, each tenant has a distinct but undivided share which can be inherited on that tenant's death by persons named in his or her will.

One of the important aspects of the law of co-ownership is the right of severance of a joint tenancy. Where a joint tenancy is converted into a tenancy in common one has severance. Unilateral severance by a single joint tenant is permitted under current law and it has significant consequences because it means the other joint tenants lose the expectation that one of them will, as the last surviving joint tenant, end up as the sole owner of all the land. In order to remedy this, the Bill prohibits unilateral severance of a joint tenancy without the written consent of the other joint tenants. This Part also updates the law relating to the partition of land by co-owners. When the co-owners of land disagree about the management of the property it is necessary to have a procedure for the resolution of their differences.

Part 7 provides for a substantial overhaul of the law relating to appurtenant rights. These are rights which are extremely common with respect to land and usually involve neighbouring landowners. They either permit one landowner to do something on a neighbour's land or entitle that landowner to prevent the neighbour from doing something on it. The most common categories of such rights are easements and profits à prendre and these are dealt with in Chapter 1. An easement is a right such as a right of way over neighbouring land or a right to light.

Although the categories of easement are generally regarded as settled, courts have made it clear that the existing list is not necessarily closed and new rights with similar characteristics may be recognised as changes in society require, for example a right to park a vehicle.

A profit à prendre is the right to go onto someone else’s land and to take from it something which exists on it naturally, such as the right to mine or quarry, cut timber or turf, graze animals on grass or fish and hunt wild game. Such profits are frequently enjoyed by a neighbouring landowner and are therefore appurtenant, but they can also be owned in gross, that is by a person who is not a neighbour and who may own no land other than the profit exercisable over someone else’s land. These rights have been the happy hunting ground of lawyers for centuries.

Chapter 2 prohibits the creation of rentcharges which is another type of right which may be owned in respect of someone else's land. It is a rent charged on land to provide an income or regular payments to the owner of the rentcharge. These used to be created in family settlements in bygone days in order to provide an income for members who were given no other substantial interest in the land, for example siblings of the family member, usually the eldest son, who was given a life interest in the land. Rentcharges are no longer common.

Chapter 3 provides for a new statutory system to deal with problems which frequently arise in relation to party structures, such as party walls and fences, separating neighbours. This is designed to regulate the rights of such owners, especially where a dispute occurs over repairs or works which one owner wishes to carry out. These provisions will also extend to situations where, strictly speaking, there may not be a party structure but the buildings are so close to the boundary line that work such as repairs cannot be carried out effectively without access from the neighbouring property. These provisions will enable one landowner to obtain a District Court works order permitting such access under certain conditions.

Chapter 4 remedies a long-standing defect in existing law. This is the limited enforceability of freehold covenants affecting land. Such covenants are frequently entered into when a landowner sells part of the land to someone else. The purchaser will often covenant to restrict the use of the land purchased and to undertake various positive obligations relating to building and repairs. Unlike leasehold covenants, which generally bind successors in title, freehold covenants are enforceable against successors in title to a limited extent only. In effect, only the burden of negative or restrictive freehold covenants passes to successors. In the 19th century many of the great estates in Dublin had their planning organised through the device of the restrictive covenant. It is not so common in our modern planning system. Those covenants are enforceable, but traditionally, positive covenants were not enforceable against freehold owners and will become so under this legislation. Chapter 4 changes the law substantially so as to bring the enforceability of freehold covenants, whether positive or negative, into line with that of leasehold covenants.

Part 8 deals with contracts and conveyances relating to land and replaces the conveyancing Acts 1881 to 1911, and various other pre-1922 statutes, with updated provisions more suited to modern conditions. It is designed to prepare the ground for eventual eConveyancing. This part also contains provisions for the interim period before a fully electronic and paperless system becomes operative. Until then, written documents and deeds in the traditional form will continue to be used.

Chapter 1 contains detailed provisions concerning contracts relating to land, such as contracts for sale. Chapter 2 deals with title matters, in particular deduction of title by a vendor and investigation of title by a purchaser. Chapter 3 deals with deeds and their operation, including the formalities for proper execution of deeds and the effect of particular provisions in deeds. Chapter 4 deals with the contents of deeds, in particular statutory provisions that can be read into them, while chapter 5 contains some general provisions concerning conveyancing.

Part 9 deals with mortgages. It contains a substantial simplification and modernisation of the law of mortgages. In particular, it assimilates the law relating to unregistered land with registered land, by making a charge the sole method of creating a legal mortgage. It also introduces provisions to ensure that lenders' remedies to enforce security are exercised only when appropriate. Part 10 deals with judgment mortgages and replaces with substantial modification the provisions of the Judgment Mortgage (Ireland) Acts 1850 and 1858.

Part 11 contains amendments to the Registration of Title Act 1964, while Part 12 contains miscellaneous provisions. The First Schedule contains consequential amendments to various statutes, while the Second Schedule contains repeals of numerous pre-1922 statutes. The Third Schedule sets out the different classes of covenants for title implied in conveyances under sections 77 and 78.

At this stage, I want to return to the issue of registration of title and say a few words about eConveyancing. The reforms to the substantive law set out in this Bill will, together with those already enacted in the Registration of Deeds and Title Act 2006, provide a sound foundation for future eConveyancing. However, the Law Reform Commission has concluded, and I agree wholeheartedly with it, that an efficient and comprehensive eConveyancing system can operate only in respect of registered land. For this reason, one of the key tasks given to the Property Registration Authority under the 2006 Act is to promote and extend the compulsory registration of title.

Compulsory registration of title applies at present in only six counties: Carlow, Laois and Meath since 1970, and Longford, Roscommon and Westmeath since 1 April 2006. Clearly, someone with a sense of humour made that order on 1 April 2006. Much remains to be done therefore and I expect the Property Registration Authority to address this key challenge with urgency and vigour.

Increased registration of title will in turn mean less need for, and eventual closure of the Registry of Deeds. It has served a useful purpose for 300 years but eConveyancing requires conclusive registration of ownership and that need cannot be met through the registration of deeds and the associated searches which must take place there every time a land transaction takes place. The Registry of Deeds is a valuable source of historical material and existing documentation must be preserved, and access to it ensured, for future generations. The archive of material that is available in the Registry of Deeds is very valuable.

Issues concerning multi-unit developments were raised in the discussions in the Seanad and are a major issue of property law in the public mind. It is important to recognise the important distinction between property management agents and property management companies. Agents provide property-related services under contract. Because they provide property services, management agents will, together with auctioneers and estate agents, be covered by the licensing system to be operated by the National Property Services Regulatory Authority. That legislation is currently being drafted in the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel. Property management companies, on the other hand, are established under company law and comprise the owners of units within multi-unit developments.

Issues relating to such developments and, in particular, the operation of property management companies were discussed at a conference organised by my Department and the Law Reform Commission earlier this year. The conference provided an opportunity for a discussion of the wide range of issues identified in the commission's consultation paper on multi-unit developments. The consultation paper makes it clear that solutions to the difficulties arising in relation to property management companies will require action across a broad range of areas, including company law and consumer protection law. These companies are subject to the provisions of company law and its enforcement mechanisms, including the Companies Registration Office, CRO, and the Office of the Director of Corporate Enforcement, ODCE, and the National Consumer Agency, NCA. I look forward to the final report of the Law Reform Commission because it will provide a foundation on which we can develop the necessary amendments to the legislation that regulates these corporate entities.

In recognition of the complex nature of the difficulties, and the cross-cutting nature of many of them, the Government has established a high-level interdepartmental committee to assist in the development of a coherent and comprehensive legislative response. The legislation relating to the auctioneers and the providers of services to those in multi-unit developments is already being drafted. I await the report of the Law Reform Commission. The key task of the committee is to identify the legislative and administrative actions to be taken on receipt of the Law Reform Commission's definitive recommendations for legislative reforms in its forthcoming report on multi-unit developments. The commission will publish this report later this year following completion of a consultation process.

I intend to bring forward certain amendments on Committee Stage to respond to issues raised and suggestions made during earlier Seanad discussions. In the meantime, I commend the Bill to the House.

I thank the Minister for his comprehensive overview of this technical, nevertheless, important legislation, a measure that represents the greatest upheaval in conveyancing law in more than a century, perhaps with the exception of the Registration of Title Act 1964.

This Bill is much more than technical reforms of practice and procedure. In essence we are witnessing the end of the feudal system. Originally a vassal could not move abode, marry, work or die without some charter of approval and acknowledgement from a superior. The feudal system relied heavily on the concept of separate estates in the same land with the crown holding the ultimate superior interest. Land registration as it has evolved, results in a simple title sheet being the land certificate, as we know it. The title sheet held in the registry can be accessed manually and comprises one sheet of paper or it can be accessed electronically, which is the objective of the legislation. Moreover the title sheet should be able to record burdens and charges as well as changes in ownership by way of electronic transaction. The ultimate objective must be that deeds could be digitally created and signed and day to day conveyancing will become no more than a mere mechanical exercise. That is not to say that one can move from the Registry of Deeds to an electronic keyboard without acknowledging the remarkable course of land ownership in our history.

The Fine Gael Party welcomes the introduction of this Bill and there can be no doubt that if any area needs reforms it is the law on conveyancing and property. We have long been campaigning for legislation such as this and we support it. We will examine the detail of the Bill and table amendments on Committee Stage.

I am aware that the former Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Mr. Michael McDowell was the driving force for this legislation since 2002 when he was the Attorney General. I pay tribute to him for taking on this very difficult but important undertaking. I acknowledge also the major contribution of Professor John Wylie, perhaps the leading expert on property law in Ireland. I can see his hand in the drafting of the Bill and I know from inquiries that he has been the leading hand in this legislation along with an expert team of lawyers and researchers that form the land law working group in the Law Reform Commission. It is a complex area of law. Even the report of the Law Reform Commission does not make easy reading. There remains very much a job in conveyancing for the "plain English" brigade. While much progress is being made with this legislation, it is still heavy, complex and extremely difficult to peruse in any way that can be clearly understood. We have a duty as legislators to ensure that wherever possible our legislation is straightforward, understandable and comprehensible to the ordinary citizen so that nobody is excluded from the process of legislation produced by the Oireachtas.

Everybody will welcome the end of terms such as "fee tail", "fee farm grant", "estate pour autre vie”, “the rule in Bain and Fothergill”, terms that mean nothing to lay people. None of us will miss the 150 statutes that will be repealed with the passing of this Bill into law, for example, the Maintenance and Embracery Act 1634 or the Clandestine Mortgages Act 1697.

I felt very inadequate while the Minister was speaking but I am really lost now.

It is indicative that land registration is complex, reflecting the various changes in our history. In my constituency until recently land registry legislation and the bulk of the deeds that still form the day to day practice of conveyancing describe lands as being situate in the heart of County King's if it is on the Offaly side or in the heart of County Queen's if on the Laois side. Approximately two years ago the Land Registry, by way of practice direction, decided not to issue any new deeds or folios in the former royal names of the counties. Nevertheless, many bank vaults and safes throughout the constituency still hold original deeds with Queen's County and King's County, even though numerous transactions may have taken place up to the mid-1990s.

The Registration of Title Act, to which the Minister referred, dealt with compulsory registration. From early 1970 Counties Laois, Carlow and Meath were counties where, if Land Registry land was the subject matter of a conveyance, registration in the Land Registry was compulsory. I do not know why this was never extended in the manner in which I am sure was intended in the Registration of Title Act. Had compulsory registration been extended from 1970 onwards, the Minister's task in introducing electronic conveyancing would have been far simpler because with the various transactions and changes in ownership over that time significant easing of the system might have taken place. However, it was not. It is really only in the compulsory registration counties that the registration of title is incorporated in the issue of a single land certificate and this has made significant changes and has very much eased the burdensome nature of conveyancing by having just title incorporated in the Land Registry.

A reading of the Second Schedule to the Bill, which lists the repealed statutes, shows us just how archaic the law in Ireland in this area has been. When we have to abolish statutes that were previously in effect since the time of Edward I, we know that it is long overdue. The Statute De Donis Conditionalibus is finally leaving us for good. The Statute Quia Emptores 1290, and the Illusory Appointments Act 1830 will go, in the same way, into the bin of history. It never ceases to amaze me that we continue to rely on archaic laws and statutes that not only predate the State, but date back to the 12th and even the 11th centuries. The sooner we, as legislators, deal with that, the better for clarity and expediency.

I pay particular tribute to the Law Reform Commission for all the work it has carried out on this issue. I have immense regard for the commission as it is a body from which I believe many of our State agencies and State-sponsored bodies could learn a valuable lesson. Under the Honourable Mrs. Justice Catherine McGuinness of the Supreme Court, as President of the commission, and her only full-time colleague, Ms Patricia T. Rickard-Clarke, the Law Reform Commission has successfully implemented a programme of research and investigation into the law that is second to none. Its rate of delivery of sound, considered and detailed reports on areas of important law reform is admirable. Equally, it is infinitely valuable to us as Members of the Oireachtas. It is important that we place on the record our thanks to it for its great work.

The objective of legislators and conveyancers is similar notwithstanding the technical and complex nature of the conveyancing practice. It is to make the process simpler and more straightforward that it might be clearly understood by the consumer. To achieve this goal much of the archaic terminology must be replaced by concepts that are more easily understood. Making the process more consumer friendly will also incorporate the most welcome feature of cutting costs and delivering a better service for better value.

I pay tribute to the staff of the Land Registry. I am pleased to see examiners of title consulted in the process. Some of what passes across the desks of examiners of title is extremely complex and difficult. It conjures images of examiners of title with wet towels around the backs of their necks and the door locked to the outside world as they go through the various statutes dating back to the 13th century.

The explanatory memorandum must be one of the most complex and detailed this House has ever seen. I am not sure to what extent the House will debate this archaic treatise. I am not sure whether I have the stomach for it. Thank God for Professor Wylie and friends who are guiding us in this legislation and upon whose advice, expertise and guidance we are very much reliant.

They will make sure the next generation of text books is accurate.

In essence the Bill reduces the number of estates or varying degrees of ownership to two. This will provide a more definite and certain concept of land ownership. The two basic types of ownership will remain freehold or fee simple interest and estate with absolute freehold interest with or without encumbrances, and leasehold, a type of tenancy with covenants and conditions restricting absolute freedom to enjoy the benefit of ownership. There will be no more fee farm rents or fee farm grants, no more lease for lives renewable forever and other lesser known but very complex degrees of ownership.

The process of change and simplification will reduce some of the mystique attaching to title and ownership. This will make matters clearer for the consumer and save money as the time involved in the conveyancing transaction will be considerably less. Only a few years ago we were told that three solicitors were necessary to complete an independent house transaction, one for the vendor, one for the purchaser and one for the financial institution. We were told, similarly to what we were told in regard to bus conductors, that the system would not work without the three lawyers and the three sets of fees. Some years later we record very few difficulties, with the purchaser's lawyer certifying title to the financial institution and undertaking to register the bank's interest on a marketable and unencumbered title. The problems have been far fewer than was envisaged by Members of this House to some extent but more particularly by members of the legal profession.

The Bill deals with so many different areas of land law that it represents a comprehensive review of the law concerning property in Ireland. I welcome particularly the proposed changes in the area of ownership in Part 2 of the Bill. Extraordinarily, until the passing of this Bill, at least in theory, Irish people will not own their own property in absolute terms. Despite the fact that we now hand over remarkable prices for houses and lands, when we buy a house we technically still owe fealty to the Crown for the ownership of that property. Essentially there currently exists no such thing as absolute ownership of land or property in this State. This Bill will finally redress that situation. The State will finally now be enshrined as the alternative to the British Crown in such matters.

Section 9 of the Bill, which will abolish feudal tenure, is long overdue and of some significance. There is perhaps room in the aftermath of the commencement of this Act for a further review of the terminology used in legal matters in general but specifically, as far as property is concerned, even now in this reforming legislation, Part 7 deals with appurtenant rights and profits à prendre, terms that are a far cry from the language we would like to see in this area with a view to demystifying land law for lay people. Similarly it is fair to say that a non-lawyer reading section 63 on escrows by corporate bodies might become a little confused.

The question of co-ownership was addressed by the Minister and the chapters dealing with it are interesting. They bring about some welcome changes that will have a positive, practical effect. At present, the distinction between joint tenancy and tenancy in common gives rise to confusion on the part of property owners. The right of survivorship, which is fundamental to the joint tenancy, while the next of kin and the relatives of tenants in common have inherent rights vested in them——

This is an important subject and due to the non-co-operation of the Government in the forming of committees, I wish to call a quorum.

Notice taken that 20 Members were not present; House counted and 20 Members being present,

We mentioned the changes in the law relating to co-ownership. Section 28 of the Bill will give the right to sever the joint tenancy in favour of a tenancy in common, with the result that right of survivorship may no longer operate on the demise of the joint tenant, provided that all the persons entitled to the joint tenancy down the line would be adequately notified. Notice and knowledge would be essential.

The amendment and repeal of aspects of the Partition Acts of 1868 and 1872 are welcome because the uncertainty and confusion that surrounds the current interpretation of these Acts can cause difficulties. There will now be a wider discretion vested in the courts to interpret the law and apply modern conditions and everyday eventualities to the concept of ownership.

Part 7 deals with easements and profits, in the main the right to light and support, rights of way, profits à prendre and the right to extract sand or stone, or cut turf. This can be extremely complex, as can be seen in the Midlands Circuit Court, where legal battles arguing the right to cut turf were taking place long before special areas of conservation or national heritage areas led to disputes over the turbary rights having less significance than heretofore. The extinguishment of such rights after 12 years of non-use is welcome as it will relieve the Circuit Court of the difficult task of interpreting rights between vexed and unloving neighbours, most of whom are members of the farming community. This will introduce an element of certainty.

The area dealing with party walls, boundary fences and, specifically, the enforceability of freehold covenants is important. There was great confusion given that negative covenants were only enforceable under law. The change, which is long overdue, going back to the Tulk v. Moxhay decision, will be enshrined in law at last so the positive and negative covenants will now both operate to the benefit or detriment of the land or the piece of paper governing it.

During the debate on the Registration of Deeds and Title Bill, we raised the issue of land registration and introduced amendments on Committee Stage to encourage movement towards the eventual registration of all lands in this country. This is the most important goal of all and with the enactment of this Bill, the Minister might consider focusing his attention on it. He mentioned that the system has now been extended to three more counties but there is a long way to go to ensure this long overdue measure of ownership can be taken into consideration in a consumer-friendly way.

I welcome the abolition of the creation of rent charges. The Bill clearly states that extant rent charges will now have the status of simple contract debts only. Section 47 of the Bill represents an important change. Similarly, in light of recent examples of fraud and questionable practices, the new protections for purchasers as laid down in section 57 are significant.

The Minister explained adverse possession and squatters' rights in another forum and they have been left out of the Bill pending a challenge in the European court. Notwithstanding this, the Minister should undertake a reform of the area now we have gone so far. The contractual position relating to the conduct of public auctions awaits new legislation and a regulatory framework to cover auctioneers. Will the Minister update us on the steps being taken towards regulating estate agents?

The Deputy has just under nine minutes left in the slot, but I must now ask him to move the adjournment of the debate.

Debate adjourned.
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