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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 11 Dec 2007

Vol. 643 No. 3

Road Safety: Motion.

I move:

That Dáil Éireann,

reiterates its concern on road safety and the continued loss of life on Irish roads;

recognises the impact the penalty points system has had on road safety;

notes with concern that the weaknesses in enforcing the penalty points system will reduce the impact of penalty points on driver behaviour;

acknowledges the severe strain the District Court is under in hearing fixed charge penalty cases; and

acknowledges the failure of the system when drivers on 12 points fail to voluntarily surrender their licence and continue to drive;

calls on the Government:

to bring forward legislation as a matter of urgency to reform the penalty points system that will ensure all fixed charge penalties are collected and enforced; and

to reform the system that requires legally disqualified drivers to surrender their licences and instead gives the Garda responsibility for collection of these licences.

May I share time with a number of Deputies? It is not a problem for the Minister.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

This important motion tries to bring to the attention of the Government and the country the good aspects of the penalty points system and the reduction in deaths thanks to road safety, but also the problems in the system causing serious and sustained difficulties for the Garda, the administrators of the Courts Service and people who comply with the law generally.

It is of concern that the Government did not see fit to accept the motion. We drafted it in such a way that we assumed the Government would want to understand the nature of the problems. Effectively, nearly 500,000 people have received penalty points since the system's introduction and it works well if people pay. If one pays within the first 28 days, there is a fine and penalty points.

We want to address the problems within the penalty points system. I welcome the Minister to the debate, although he has not heard everything I have stated. This side of the House welcomes the reduction in the number of road deaths and the fact that penalty points are being issued, but we are examining problems with the issuing of points and the way in which the courts system is gummed up as a result.

I wish to refer to a document from the Courts Service that explains the problems succinctly. From 1 January to 31 June 2007, more than 88,000 summonses were issued to people who had not paid in the first 56 days. If one does not pay within that time, it becomes an unstoppable process and the case must go to court. If one is late, one cannot pay outside the system and must go to court. When this document was drawn up, it was expected and anticipated that there were a further 20,000 summonses in the system, bringing the figure to above 100,000.

Of the summonses issued, nearly 44,000 were not served. For some reason, the Garda was unable to serve the summons on the individual or the summons, either issued through registered post or normal post, did not reach the appropriate person. There is a serious question for the Garda to answer in this respect. It is extremely busy and some of the 43,000 people to whom it tried to serve summonses were not at home or had moved address, but not all of them would have been unavailable. There is a clear issue in terms of the serving of summonses. If penalty points are to effective and universally applicable, it is not acceptable that 43,000 people were not served with summonses for not paying fines. The number of cases struck out by the courts amounted to nearly 24,000. Of the 88,000 summonses issued, those that resulted in fines and the imposition of penalty points amounted to 14,171, a small number considering the effort involved.

The Courts Service was clear in the opinion it expressed to the Department of Transport and has good, succinct and practical ways to deal with the issue. First, it proposed that after the 56 day period has elapsed, the case should be handed over to a private debt collection agency to pursue the outstanding fine. This would make a great deal of sense because the offence would be kept out of the courts, as the idea was to deal with these "minor" traffic offences, most of which involve speeding, outside the court system. If one does not pay within the first 56 days, there is no reason a private debt collection agency should not pursue the fine.

Second, the outstanding fines could be collected with car tax at the next car tax renewal as is done successfully in other jurisdictions. Third, we should increase the penalty points incurred if the fine remains unpaid. The default position should be that a fine is automatically imposed unless the person decides he or she wants a court hearing. The current position is that summonses must be issued even though the offender has no intention of defending the case. Putting the onus on the offender to indicate whether he or she wishes to have the case dealt with in court would declog the system.

According to the Courts Service, the District Court cannot sustain the work imposed on it. Much of the time of the Courts Service, the Garda and others is wasted by not getting a result. More than 60% of summonses issued in October 2006 did not result in convictions, representing a considerable waste of time for Garda, court and Courts Service staff and a waste of public money. When the proposed new system's privatised speed cameras are introduced and detection levels increase, the number of summonses will inevitably rise with no basis for optimism that the outcome will be any better.

According to the Courts Service, the District Court cannot sustain the level of prosecution of fixed penalty points. Waiting times in Dublin in particular are unacceptably high and the potential for further deterioration when privatised speed cameras are introduced is significant. There is a serious risk of cases being challenged for delays in prosecution simply due to the volume of cases in the system.

There is an urgent need for reform of the current legislation, which is not achieving its aim of keeping minor offences out of court. Members of the Oireachtas and the Departments of Transport and Justice, Equality and Law Reform should get together to solve this issue. There is no confidence in the system as it operates. This side of the House wants the Minister to take on board specific and important opinions, for which reason I am unhappy with the way the Government has amended our motion. Despite our tabling the motion in what we believed to be an acceptable manner, the Government cannot take it on board. There is arrogance at the heart of the Government's approach to the issue.

We support the penalty points system and the downward trend in road deaths, but we realise there is a fundamental error in the law. It is not working properly, particularly in respect of Garda time. Imagine the time and resources wasted by the Garda were it to serve 88,000 summonses and succeeded half of the time. Will the Minister speak with the people concerned and change the Act?

Of the 126,000 people who have committed offences but on whom penalty points cannot be imposed because they do not have driver licences, everyone acknowledges that a significant number are from the North. While I will not go into the previous debate, we must fast-track co-operation between the North and South jurisdictions, notwithstanding that the North is working on the legislation.

If we examine the statistics on the website www.penaltypoints.ie carefully, we notice certain things. Of the 1,900 penalty points issued for careless driving, 1,800 were issued to people without driving licences. Of the 671 penalty points issued for dangerous driving reduced to careless driving, 643 of the people involved did not have a driving licence. Importantly, of the 6,778 penalty points issued to people for not having insurance, 6,485 of those did not have driving licences. A significant cohort of people, therefore, do not obey the law in any respect. They do not have licences or insurance. They are careless drivers. They are a category of people we must go after much more effectively.

The Minister must effect an immediate change in the data available to the Garda at the point of interaction with the public. When the gardaí stop a car and key in the number to determine if the occupant has insurance, unfortunately, many of the insurance discs are forged. We need joined up thinking between the collective motor insurance companies and the Garda Síochána and I believe it is only a matter of connecting the Garda to the system. In that way gardaí will know immediately whether the driver has insurance. That would be an important step forward.

Many of the people who go to court, and this aspect has been commented on by the Courts Service, get the penalty points but they must bring their driving licence with them when they go to court. The law is clear in this respect. Gardaí cannot take the licence from the licence holder. The obligation is on the licence holder to give it to the gardaí but in the case of many drivers — I do not know the numbers involved; the Minister might be in a position to ask his officials to determine exact facts in this regard — when they go to court and get their penalty points they do not give up their licences and therefore the penalty points cannot be applied. That applies to the issue my colleague, Deputy Mitchell, raised earlier about drivers who have gone over the 12 points but who do not surrender their licences, and the Minister cannot force them to surrender their licences until he changes the law. I understand the police in the United Kingdom can take the licence from the driver on the spot. We cannot do that here.

I ask the Minister to examine the motion again with a view to making fundamental changes in the law. He must consult with the key players — the Courts Service, the Garda, the motor insurance bureau and all the people concerned. I emphasise that all sides of the House should be ad idem on these issues. We should agree and go forward together because this is about saving lives, reducing injuries on our roads and safer driving. If nine out of every ten accidents in this State are caused by driver error we must get at the cohort of people who are thumbing their noses at the law. If it is a fact that of all the cases that go to court summonses are not served in respect of half of them and that penalty points cannot be applied to a significant number of people because they do not have their licences, we are not doing enough to address the problem, notwithstanding the progress that has been made.

We must get our act together on this issue. The Minister must put in place an efficient, effective core system that will ensure only serious cases go to court. The Minister called them, in respect of penalty points, mandatory cases. If it is a mandatory case it should go to court. If not, it should not go to court.

Under section 5 of the 2006 Act, there is a provision whereby if somebody is arrested for drunken driving and he or she is over the limit, they can be required to pay a mandatory payment on the spot. If the driver is slightly, but not significantly, over the limit the Minister has the power in law to put that person off the road and make him pay the fine without going to court. That would have a significant impact in terms of compliance with the law in that if someone is caught drink driving they are put off the road immediately and the case is kept out of court. It also saves Garda time in that gardaí can enforce the mandatory penalties and be in court for the serious offences.

This is an opportune time to raise the issue of penalty points. I thank my colleague, Deputy O'Dowd, for bringing this issue to the attention of the House.

Having read the details of the motion I thought the Minister would want to accept it. I do not know how long he expects to be in his position — I am sure he hopes to be in it for the next three or four years, all going well, but I guarantee him that——

——in that time most of the proposals by Deputy O'Dowd will become law because they make sense.

Deputy Noel Dempsey was not the Minister responsible for this area when the penalty points system was introduced but he was in Government. He will recall that at the time it put the fear of God in every motorist throughout the country, including me. It was the talking point in every corner of the country. If we do not put some restraint on people they will go crazy. The introduction of that system had a good effect for approximately six or eight months but why did it not have the same effect the following year? There was a good reason. The motoring public began to think they could get away with it and once that notion began to spread throughout the country, even more people decided it was worth taking the chance that they would not be caught. There is nothing unusual about that to anyone who has driven on the main thoroughfares from here to Cork, Galway or elsewhere at the maximum speed limit of 120 km/h. I have never been in a convoy where I was not passed out by other drivers many times before I arrived at my destination. If I was doing 120 km/h they had to be doing more. It appears that law is being broken every day of the week. That is not news to this House or to anyone. As soon as the speed cameras are operational countrywide, many more people will incur penalty points.

If my thesis is right, and I believe it is, many drivers now believe they have a better chance if they go through the courts. I believe that is the basis of Deputy O'Dowd's motion. It appears that as every month and year goes by drivers who have had penalty points applied for speeding are deciding to take their chances and go to court. I do not have time to outline the figures given earlier but I understand they have a 70% chance of a summons not resulting in a conviction. A total of 88,000 summons were issued in the six month period mentioned earlier but approximately 14,000 fines were imposed. The Minister will say in response that we will collect fines from over 40,000 but that is the problem. There must be a more clearcut way of collecting fines other than expecting the courts to do it. These recommendations are simple, and there is no constitutional reason that they cannot be implemented. If there is, the Minister must inform the House. He does not have a great history in introducing new legislation in this area, as seen with the new driving test arrangements. The Minister should note the Fine Gael Party is giving him the benefit of its knowledge and commitment to safer driving on the roads.

I commend Deputy O'Dowd on his presentation and recommendations for reforming legislation on the penalty points system.

All Members recall the dramatic and positive effect penalty points had on driver behaviour when they were introduced. People began to drive responsibly and reached their destinations safely, leading to a 20% reduction in road deaths by December 2002. From 2004 to 2006, all progress made was lost when road fatalities began to rise again. Why did people initially slow down and drive responsibly but then revert to speeding? They did so because there are too many loopholes in the implementation of the penalty points system. Careless and speeding drivers have a 50% chance, even if they are caught for speeding, of not having to pay a fine or of points going on their driving licences. Half of all speeding summonses have not been served and many of those served have been thrown out of court. Only one in three drivers surrenders his or her driving licence voluntarily.

While I understand there is a legislation issue, penalty points are not imposed on cars from Northern Ireland and other countries. If the present system is snowed under and unable to cope, what chance is there when the hundreds of new safety cameras are rolled out in 2008 and thousands more drivers will be caught speeding? The District Court system may collapse under an enormous volume of cases.

It is important that an education campaign is implemented to highlight the fact that these are safety cameras, not speed ones. This is the key to their acceptance when they are rolled out in several months' time. If only a few advertisements are released the week before they come on stream, the Minister will get it in the neck, as happened when he tried to implement the driving licence legislation over a weekend. The publicity campaign on safety cameras must be comprehensive. Safety cameras need to be placed on dangerous areas of the road network where a maximum number of lives can be saved rather than the soft targets of, say, 50 km zones.

A better attempt is needed to resolve this problem than that used to clear the backlog of driving tests. Today I spoke to an individual who applied for a job as a driver tester with SGS. The main criterion, he informed me, is to have had a clean driving licence for the past five years. Some testers who never did a driving test in Ireland have been employed by SGS to clear the driving test backlog. It means the numbers passed on the SGS test are higher than those tested by the Department of Transport.

I recommend the motion to the House.

I do not envy the Minister, Deputy Dempsey, in having to take over road safety. The regime is riddled with problems and loopholes. The penalty points system and the fixed charge system are prime examples of how not to do State business. The system was introduced in haste by the then Minister for Transport, Deputy Brennan, in 2002. No administrative or available technology systems were put in place which could have made it work. Neither were financial or Garda personnel resources given over to the system. No changes were introduced into the court system to deal with the large increase of cases that would result from the roll-out of the system. Most significantly, no Minister was put in charge of implementing it. It was split between the Departments of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, Justice, Equality and Law Reform and the Garda. I take some comfort from the Minister for Transport taking departmental control of the national vehicle and driver file, NVDF.

Deputy O'Dowd has again brought this motion in Private Members' time because of concern for public safety on the roads. The concept behind the penalty points system of penalising in an incremental way is a good one. The concept of punishing bad driving behaviour and rewarding good can only bring about an improvement in driving behaviour if the system imposes a penalty. The current system has reversed this with bad driving behaviour being rewarded and good punished.

The poor eijit who accepts his penalty points and pays his fine is punished. The driver who does not care takes his or her chance with the courts and is rewarded, as only one in six cases ends up paying. With such great odds one would want to be a fool not to take them. Up to 50% of offenders have already come to this conclusion, not bothering to pay their fixed charge for penalty points. Ultimately the system will collapse as people realise there is no point in paying a fixed charge. All expectations of improved road safety will be gone if people do not get the penalty points they deserve.

Many drivers caught speeding never receive any fine because they do not appear on the NVDF or their cars are not taxed in Ireland. Too many people are getting away with breaking the law. Everyone driving on our roads, regardless of where they come from, must obey the rules of the road. This is not happening.

The court system is in disarray. It should be seen as the final penalty and last resort. The idea behind the fixed penalty was to penalise bad drivers while keeping the matter out of the courts. The opposite is the case as the chances of getting any penalty from a court are slight. The courts are distracted from the work they should be doing. I foresaw this in 2006 when I warned of the dangers of clogging up the courts with the existing penalty points before bringing in the camera system, if that ever will be brought in. It seems to have had an extraordinarily long gestation. If it does come in I estimate that there at least 500,000 extra cases will go to the District Courts each year. The court system will collapse under that kind of strain.

A fundamental principle of human behaviour is that human beings act rationally and in their own interests. If that is the case they will not pay fines for penalty points because it does not make any sense. More and more people will die on the roads unless we reform the system which we have an opportunity to do.

When the penalty points system was introduced people feared the effect it would have on their insurance premia and the loss of their licences. As time went on it became apparent that the system was flawed. When any system is introduced it should be possible to review it, identifying its flaws and strong points.

This motion seeks a general review of the system and to fine tune some points. Even the Government amendment recognises that mandatory blood alcohol testing has decreased the number of road accidents. Some weeks ago Opposition Members put forward an agreed motion seeking mandatory testing at all accident sites.

The courts have been identified as the way out of paying fines and accruing points. Summonses are not being processed and are not coming to court. The amendment seeks to impose a greater onus on the court system by recognising that people have that option. The only option to consider is that when speed cameras catch someone speeding, or committing some other offence, the onus is on the owner of the car to prove categorically that he or she was not driving. This can happen between husbands and wives or brothers and sisters, in open insurance policies. That should be the only situation in which one can make a case and give demonstrable proof that it happened.

There is a perceived inequality between drivers with Irish driving licences and those from other parts of the world. Even on the N11 in Wicklow one sees non-national drivers, with left-hand drive cars, effectively on the wrong side of the road. There is a perception that people who do not comply with basic standards of road safety and are not even aware of the rules of the road are being allowed to drive yet they cannot accrue penalty points.

If people are prepared to say they did not receive the summons the judge is not in a position to say that they are wrong. The Courts Service has written to us with some suggestions, saying that this is a problem. It has also outlined a problem in collecting licences which have accrued 12 points. Only one in three of those affected surrender their licences voluntarily. The onus is on the individual who receives two notices but 81 have not surrendered their licences. They know they are getting away with it. People are manipulating the rules to suit themselves, as it is human nature to do.

The Minister for Transport is the person who introduced the levy on plastic bags which had to be increased recently because the 15 cent charge was losing its effect. I ask him to consider this motion and support it.

Up to this morning 316 people had been killed on Irish roads this year, which is shocking. According to the recently published Road Safety Strategy, the 333 road deaths in the year between June 2006 and June 2007 equates to approximately 80 deaths per 1 million of the population. In the UK, this figure is 50 deaths per 1 million. A driver is therefore 60% more likely to be killed on an Irish road than on a road in the UK.

A driver on an Irish road is more likely to be killed than one in Malta, the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, the UK, Switzerland, Denmark, Turkey, Germany, Finland, Northern Ireland, Iceland and France. Most research suggests that the main contributory factors to road accidents are alcohol and speeding. I recognise the efforts of the Garda Síochána and the Road Safety Authority, RSA, to educate drivers and enforce drink-driving legislation. Based on today's figures, the members of the Garda Síochána enforcing drink-driving legislation, coupled with the advertising campaigns of the RSA, can take credit for the 34 lives fewer lost this year when compared with last year. Although we have not yet reached the end of the year the figure for 2006 was 350, whereas this year to date it is 316.

How can we make Irish roads as safe as those in the UK, the Netherlands, Sweden and Norway? According to the RSA, excessive speed is a contributory factor in one in three road accidents. We have been promised a more vigorous approach to speed limit enforcement and a roll-out of mobile cameras in 2007. Will the Minister announce the introduction of the speed cameras in the few weeks remaining before the end of the year? Whatever about the enforcement, the roll-out of the cameras will be a major factor in convincing people that speed will not pay. The Garda Síochána do not have enough resources to cover the roads and enforce the traffic and other laws but the speed cameras will hopefully make people conscious of their responsibility.

I read the following article in the Irish Independent on Saturday last:

A loophole in the system used to administer traffic offences is allowing thousands of motorists who have been caught speeding or driving without a seat-belt or using a mobile phone to escape unpunished.

This is because they allegedly did not receive official notification of the offence in the post.

A senior garda inspector has warned that the issue was one of national importance . . . . Hundreds of cases have been dismissed from district court sittings as offending motorists claim they received no ticket in the postal system.

As a result, penalty points on driving licences are not being imposed and revenue for motoring fines is not being collected.

After dismissing four cases in a row recently at Limerick District Court, Judge Elizabeth McGrath expressed concern and asked what was being done to address the problem.

Inspector Seamus Gallagher of Henry Street garda station told the court, "There is an issue there and it is being looked into nationally." [Is it being "looked into nationally"?]

When a motorist is stopped by gardai for an offence committed while driving, he/she is told they will be given notice in the post in the coming weeks.

If a motorist fails to pay the fine within the time permitted, a summons is issued for a court appearance.

Dismissed

But hundreds of motorists are claiming that they never received notice of the fine and their cases are dismissed, effectively allowing them to get away with committing road traffic offences.

. . . . "The problem arises because when it comes to court proceedings we have to be able to prove that the person receives the fixed penalty notice and if a person is willing to state in court they did not receive it, the judge is in a predicament," . . . .

The Minister might make reference to speed cameras and the problem that arose recently in court cases in Limerick.

I move amendment No. 1:

To delete all words after "Dáil Éireann" and substitute the following:

"—reiterates its concern on road safety and the continued loss of life on Irish roads;

recognises the positive impact the penalty points system has had on road safety;

notes that the downward trend in road deaths has continued in 2007 and recognises that in the first 12 months of the operation of mandatory alcohol testing (August 2006 to July 2007) there has been over a 20% reduction in road deaths compared to the previous corresponding 12 month period;

supports the Road Safety Strategy for the period 2007-2012 in order to further reduce road deaths and injuries;

commends the Government on the sustained implementation of road safety measures such as the establishment of the Road Safety Authority, the roll-out of the Garda Traffic Corps; the introduction of mandatory alcohol testing, the introduction of a graduated driving licence system for learner drivers, the doubling of penalties for drink driving offences, the extension of the penalty points system, including the introduction of penalty points for mobile phone offences;

notes that at the end of October 2007, over 480,000 drivers have received penalty points with 93 drivers currently on 12 points resulting in six months disqualification;

recognises the rights of a person alleged to have committed a road traffic offence, liable to a fixed charge payment, not to pay the amount specified and to opt to have the case heard by the courts;

recognises that the amount of the fine on conviction for a road traffic offence is a matter for the court (within the limits set out in the Road Traffic Acts), as is the collection of such fines;

notes that the Road Traffic Act 2002 provides for the requirement of persons who have accumulated 12 penalty points to submit their driving licences to the licensing authority that granted the licence not later than 14 days from the date of notification; and

notes that the Road Traffic Act 2002 also provides for the offence of not complying with such a direction."

This amendment appears on the second supplementary Order Paper. I wish to share time with Deputy Frank Fahey.

I welcome the opportunity afforded by this motion to debate the issue of road safety. I appreciate the tone of the motion submitted by the Opposition and in particular the expressions of concern at the number of road deaths. The amendment is simply an attempt to clarify the many initiatives that have been taken and give details of those that will continue to be taken in the coming years.

I welcome Deputy O'Dowd's contribution to this debate, much of which was based on a submission to the Department of Transport made by the Courts Service in response to the Department's statement of strategy. The Courts Service made suggestions relating to fixed charge penalty offences and other areas highlighted by the Deputy. I assure him that we will consider them carefully, as we do all suggestions from the Courts Service, the Garda and so on, and will include some of them in the next road trafficBill.

The question of why our penalty points system is different from that of the UK and whether this is a constitutional matter was raised. There is a constitutional element to this subject that relates to the constitutional right of every citizen to go to court. In the UK a person can indicate if he or she wishes to go to court but, because criminal offences are in question, our constitution sees that this right is automatically given. I am not yet sure whether there are options that would allow us overcome this matter but it is something we will examine in the context of the next road traffic Bill.

I will refer briefly to Deputy O'Dowd's point on drink driving and the law passed in 2006 to allow for administrative fines. I would welcome another debate in the House on this matter as such a move would ease pressure on Garda time, give more resources and so on. I spoke to Assistant Commissioner Eddie Rock about this on the day of the launch of the road safety strategy and my only reservation is that taking this route could signal that drink driving is acceptable. There are many merits to this suggestion for dealing with these offences, not least the freeing of Garda and court time.

It is the actual law.

It is in law but has not yet commenced in practice. We should think more about the other side of this matter because we initially introduced stiff penalties, including disqualification, that included a shame factor attached to having to attend court. We must be wary of sending the wrong signal on drink driving and must balance both sides of the argument because each has merit. This matter could be discussed in the Joint Committee on Transport before the next road traffic Act.

The penalty points system was extended with effect from 3 April 2006 featuring 35 separate offences, with use of mobile phones added from September 2006. Fixed charges now apply to almost 60 offences. The focus of the penalty points system is on driver behaviour and highlights safety issues such as those mentioned by Deputy Deenihan earlier, including speeding, failure to wear seat belts, dangerous overtaking and failure to obey traffic lights, stop signs and yield signs. This all focuses on driver behaviour.

It must be remembered, however, that a person in receipt of a fixed charge notice is not compelled by law to pay the fixed charge amount provided therein. Road traffic offences are criminal offences. Any person alleged to have committed a road traffic offence is entitled to have his or her case heard by the courts and the non-payment of the fixed charge amount is an indication by that person that he or she wishes to have the matter dealt with by the court. A person who opts to have the case heard in court is subject, on conviction, to an increased number of penalty points and is liable to a significantly higher financial penalty than if he or she had opted to pay a fixed charge notice.

Where a person has accumulated 12 penalty points and is to be disqualified from holding a licence for a period of six months beginning on the appropriate date, the Road Traffic Act 2002 specifically provides that he or she be directed to surrender his or her driving licence to the licensing authority that granted the licence not later than 14 days from that date. I understand that 93 people so far have reached the maximum number of points. Failure to comply with such a direction is an offence under the Road Traffic Acts. The penalties on summary conviction for the offence of failing to surrender a licence can result, in the case of a first offence, to a fine not exceeding €1,000 or, at the discretion of the court, to imprisonment for any term not exceeding three months or to both a fine and imprisonment. The enforcement of the requirement to surrender a driving licence as required by the 2002 Act is a matter for the Garda Síochána.

The penalty points and fixed charge notice system, as provided for in the Road Traffic Act 2002, has been implemented by means of the Garda fixed charge processing system, FCPS, in the Garda Síochána. Essentially, the system has automated end to end processing of fixed charge notices within the Garda Síochána and provides electronic transfer of information with the other State agencies involved, in particular the Courts Service and the Department of Transport vehicle registration unit in Shannon.

There have been significant developments in the FCPS over the past two years and, in addition, the system also became fully integrated with the PULSE system in April 2006, thereby enabling the amalgamation of summons for the same person to be issued for the same court appearance date, thus saving time and resources for both the Courts Service and the Garda Síochána.

Further automation of the penalty points system was achieved in the first quarter of 2006 through the integration of the Garda FCPS with the Courts Service criminal case tracking system, CCTS, via PULSE. This allows for the electronic delivery of summons, applications for penalty point offences from the PULSE system to CCTS and details of scheduled hearing dates from CCTS back to PULSE. The Courts Service electronically transfers details of all in-court penalty point convictions to the Department of Transport for upload to the national driver file and the Garda Síochána keeps a copy for verification of driver data.

The Garda Síochána also receives regular notifications from the Department of Transport of drivers disqualified for having accumulated 12 penalty points. The principal aim of the system is to ensure effective and efficient processing of fixed charge and penalty point notices so that cases are dealt with as quickly as possible and in such a way as to free up valuable Garda resources for operational duties to the greatest extent possible. The majority of fixed charge notices, more than 70%, are paid on time and do not go to court. Some 500,000 of them have been issued.

My Department's national vehicle and driver file, NVDF, is critical to the administration of the penalty points system and its role can be divided into two areas of activity, namely, the issuing of penalty points notifications and the supply of NVDF driver extracts to critical stakeholders. My Department's office in Shannon receives an electronic file, normally on a weekly basis from An Post which is contracted by the Garda Síochána for the supply of computer services relating to the administration of the penalty points system. This file contains details of drivers and the penalty points offences committed by them, the number of penalty points to be imposed and dates relating to the offences. The data is validated against the core NVDF records and, in the case of successful matches, penalty points notification documents are generated. These are printed and posted to the drivers affected on the day following receipt of the file from An Post.

The notifications provide the driver with details of the offence, the number of penalty points applied and the number of points accumulated. In instances where a total of 12 points have been reached or exceeded, the driver is informed that a disqualification will apply for six months, commencing 28 days after the issue of the notice. I understand 93 such notices have been issued. The system also facilitates notification of expiry of points after three years in accordance with the provisions of the system. The core NVDF records are updated with the penalty points details, including disqualifications, and these are visible to and updateable by local motor tax office staff with on-line processing facilities directly to the NVDF.

The system also involves the provision of NVDF data extracts to assist other stakeholders in fulfilling their roles in the administration of the penalty points system. This includes An Post, the contracted agency responsible for processing payments for penalty point offences, which require access to NVDF data to validate both driver and driving licence details. An NVDF record extract which contains additional information on driver disqualifications is provided to the Garda Síochána. Special notations are used to highlight penalty points disqualifications and surrender of driving licences to motor tax offices.

In addition to these electronic arrangements, my Department issues a letter to the manager of the relevant motor tax office highlighting each instance of disqualification where the driver has reached or exceeded the 12 penalty point limit. A report based on NVDF data setting out the status of each disqualified driver, including the position on the surrender of the driving licence, is also generated each month and this issues to the Garda Síochána and the RSA.

It is an offence not to surrender one's driving licence within 14 days of receipt of a notification advising that 12 penalty points have been accumulated. The Garda receives a report setting out the status of each disqualified driver, including whether the licence has been surrendered. It is therefore a matter for the Garda to issue summonses and pursue those who have failed to surrender their licence.

I will bring forward legislation in 2008 to deal with various road safety issues. This will involve a review of the law relating to penalty points and driver disqualifications, taking account of whether the Garda requires any further statutory or legislative clarity to assist in the enforcement of these areas. The implementation of road safety measures has had a significant impact on the level of road deaths in recent years, but such measures will not work alone. Road users must take responsibility for driving behaviour and each of us can help to reduce the level of road deaths and injuries. The RSA, other Departments and agencies will implement a range of road safety initiatives as part of the next road safety strategy for 2007-2012, which should see Ireland approaching the best practice levels of the best performing countries in Europe. I commend the amended motion to the House.

I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak on this motion on road safety and to outline some of the initiatives that have been implemented by the Government and those that will be implemented under the new road safety strategy. Significant initiatives realised under the two previous strategies, particularly in the last two years, include the extension of penalty points and fixed charges, stronger legislation, mandatory roadside alcohol testing, greater levels of enforcement and the establishment of the Road Safety Authority. The number of fatalities as a result of road traffic collisions in 2006, at 368, was the second lowest rate in 40 years.

Progress continues to be made in reducing road deaths, and the priority attached to this has been underlined in the recent road safety strategy for 2007-2012, launched in October, which sets challenging targets for road death reductions. The overall trend in road deaths is downward. From a total of 411 in 2001, the figure for 2007 to date is 316. Tragically, 15 people have lost their lives on our roads in the first 11 days of December. Road deaths are tragic at any time of year but there is a particular sadness in the lead-up to Christmas. Despite the increased levels of road deaths in recent days, the number killed so far this year represents a reduction of 34 on the number of deaths on the same date last year. If the current trend is maintained, this year may show one of the lowest death rates for 40 years. The decrease in road deaths comes despite an increase in population, vehicle ownership and vehicle usage patterns.

A new road safety strategy for 2007-12 was published in October. The strategy, which provides for 126 actions or initiatives to be put in place over a six-year period, aims to reduce road deaths to no greater than 60 fatalities per million of population by the end of 2012, with demonstrable downward reductions in each year of the strategy. This equates to an average of 21 road deaths per month or 252 deaths per annum. The average number of road deaths per month so far this year is 28. The strategy also aims to reduce injuries by 25% and, by the fourth quarter of 2008, to develop a reliable database for serious injuries based on data from the health care system and insurance industry. In addition, the strategy aims to implement a safety camera network to provide in the region of 6,000 hours of enforcement per month to increase conformity with speed limits. Another objective of the strategy is to increase adult front seat belt wearing rates from 86% to 95% or better and to increase the adult rate of rear seat belt usage from 63% to 85% or better by 2012.

The strategy also identifies the need to legislate for and introduce a reduction in the legal blood alcohol level for drivers. The precise level to which it will be lowered will follow consideration of recommendations to be made by the RSA advisory panel to the RSA board in early 2008. Several issues will inform those recommendations, including known driver behaviour, past offending rates, analysis of data held by the Medical Bureau of Road Safety, enforcement practicalities and best international practice. Legislation will be required to implement a revised level, and the Minister for Transport will move rapidly to introduce appropriate legislation once the advice of the RSA has been received.

The Minister introduced new regulations in October to provide for significant changes in regard to driving licences and learner drivers. These changes included the replacement, from 30 October 2007, of the provisional licence by a learner permit to emphasise that the holder is learning to drive. From 30 October 2007, new applicant learner permit holders must be accompanied at all times by a driver who has held a full licence for the category for at least two years. New applicant learner permit holders cannot apply for a driving test for six months. Further changes provide that existing provisional licences will continue in force until their expiry date, after which the holder will be issued with a learner permit. From 30 June 2008, a holder of a second provisional licence or learner permit for a car must be accompanied at all times. They may, however, drive unaccompanied in the period up to 30 June 2008.

The existing rule that first, third and subsequent holders of provisional licences must be accompanied by a person holding a full driving licence, with no minimum period necessary, continues in force until 30 June 2008 and from 1 December 2007, a learner motorcyclist must wear the letter "L" on a yellow fluorescent tabard.

Since its establishment in September 2006, the Road Safety Authority has introduced a number of measures to reduce driving test waiting times. These include contracting SGS Limited to provide additional driving tests on its behalf. Over the last year or so, the average waiting time for a test has come down by about a third and the RSA continues to drive this down.

Following on the recent changes to the driver licensing provisions, the RSA has confirmed that all 122,000 applicants on the waiting list at the end of October will have been tested by early March 2008 and that by the end of June 2008 all applicants for a driving test will be able to get a test on demand, which is within 10 weeks. This does not mean there will be no waiting list at the end of June 2008.

In addition to these two commitments, the Minister for Transport has also requested the RSA to ensure that all 120,000 people who were holders of second provisional licences at the time the changes were introduced in October will have been offered a test before the end of June 2008. As we know, from that time these drivers will be required to be accompanied by a qualified driver, a requirement which applies to all other learner drivers in any event.

The national vehicle and driver file section of the Department of Transport, based in Shannon, is directly assisting the RSA in this particular objective. Achievement of this target takes into account the historical patterns of application and pass rates, as well as the significant spike in applications following the announcement of the changes.

The road safety strategy for 2004-06 committed the Government to the introduction of a form of roadside breath testing which would address in a positive way the problem of drinking and driving. Legislation was introduced in the Road Traffic Act 2006 to provide for an appropriate form of roadside mandatory alcohol testing in order to increase the chance of being breathalysed, and it provides an increased deterrent. The Garda has been successfully operating mandatory alcohol testing checkpoints since July 2006 and the increased deterrent effect is now reflected in the significant reduction in the number of road deaths since then.

The Road Traffic Acts provide that a member of the Garda Síochána may require a person in charge of a mechanically propelled vehicle to provide a preliminary breath specimen where the vehicle is involved in a road collision. Garda discretion in the use of preliminary roadside tests in such circumstances exists, having regard to possible injuries sustained. It should be pointed out that evidence of alcohol consumption is not a requirement in order for a garda to use the powers available.

The Road Traffic Acts also place an obligation on a person to provide a blood or urine sample in a hospital. This applies where an event occurs involving a vehicle which results in a person being injured, or a person claiming or appearing to have been injured, or where the person is admitted to or attends a hospital and a member of the Garda is of the opinion that, at the time of the event, the person had consumed an intoxicant. The definition of an intoxicant includes alcohol and drugs or any combination of alcohol and drugs.

The Department is aware that the Garda authorities have issued directions to the effect that it is expected that all drivers involved in serious road traffic collisions are tested unless there are overriding medical circumstances. The Government has recognised that there remains a serious substantial degree of public concern that, while acknowledging the medical aspect, some drivers involved in collisions may not be currently required to undergo roadside breath testing. The Department of Transport is engaging with the Office of the Attorney General to establish how the current legislation can be amended to achieve compulsory roadside testing of drivers involved in serious accidents subject to overriding medical circumstances.

There were two tragic accidents in Galway this week and it is my wish that we receive as quickly as possible the Garda reports on those accidents. It is vital the Government be made aware of the circumstances surrounding accidents which in many cases can be avoided.

I wish to share time with Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

I warmly commend our Fine Gael colleagues, Deputies McEntee and O'Dowd, for initiating this important debate. It was only a few short weeks ago that we were discussing the new road safety strategy and general road safety issues in the House. However, week after week and day after day we hear of more of the awful incidents referred to by Deputy Fahey.

The press reported the tragic deaths of seven people on our roads over the past weekend, including people killed in Rathangan, County Kildare, Galway city, Tyrellspass, Ballinrobe and Poles. This highlights the ongoing scourge of deaths on our roads and the urgent need to make road safety a priority of the Government. If the Minister did nothing else but try to make this matter the main priority of Government, as other states such as France have done, he will have done a service in his time at the Department.

For 2007, the tragic death toll is currently 316, according to the latest figures I received from the Garda national traffic bureau. It is better than the figure for last year at this juncture but it will finish up significantly over 300. It is possible the figure will match that of 2003, when there were 335 tragic deaths, although I hope it will not.

If it was possible to tonight put in place measures to save the 20 or possibly 30 other lives which could be lost over the next three or four weeks, this House would have an absolute responsibility to take those measures almost as emergency legislation. I agree with the Minister in that motorists must accept a large amount of personal responsibility for their driving behaviour but the Government has, through its 11-year life, been appallingly slow to adopt an appropriate range of targeted measures to tackle speeding and other irresponsible driving behaviour. This was especially true until about a year and a half ago. There must be fundamental political leadership on the issue.

Even with the announcement in the budget last week of an additional €11 million for the RSA for testing, the figure is perhaps insufficient for the task it must complete in bringing about a ten-week waiting period for driving tests. I had previously noted that there was a divergence between the budget's target for the driving test on demand and what the Minister has repeatedly stated.

As the Fine Gael motion indicates, there are many question marks over the current operation of the penalty points system which the Minister, Deputy Dempsey, must urgently address. There may have been a heightened sense of road awareness and safety with drivers on Irish roads in the immediate aftermath of the introduction of penalty points and random breath testing, but these initial positive effects unfortunately appear to be starting to wear off. A renewed campaign is urgently required.

In that context I warmly welcome the premiere of the Road Safety Authority's safety film and action "Crashed Lives" which will be launched by the Minister. I also noted with pleasure over the weekend that the distinguished journalist Charlie Bird, along with his colleagues Samantha Libreri and Dympna Moroney, was awarded the overall news broadcast award for their series on road safety at the Law Society's justice media awards.

That series was very valuable in trying to change driver behaviour, especially Charlie Bird's visually shocking piece filmed when he drove to work in RTE from his home. He travelled just below the legal speed limit and could see car after car overtaking him and sailing into the blue yonder towards Dublin. The speed limit on the road in question, the N11, was being flagrantly broken again and again. That is characteristic of many of our national roads and motorways. Unfortunately that behaviour then goes on to secondary roads, like the famous roads in your constituency, a Cheann Comhairle, such as the road from Castletown to Kenmare, with which I am very familiar. On that very narrow road, people try to maintain high speeds totally inappropriately.

The Courts Service has rightly been extremely critical of the current method of dealing with motoring offences and has claimed that the system is simply not working and is clogging up the courts. Garda figures show that up to 50% of all motorists still fail to pay fines for offences such as speeding and the non-wearing of seat belts and that only 50% to 60% of traffic fines are being paid. Fixed penalty notices are issued to motorists in order to keep them out of court. However, in the first six months of 2007, the Courts Service reported that 88,000 summonses in respect of fixed charge offences came before the courts. The Courts Service has stated that urgent changes are necessary. While I welcome what the Minister has said, clearly we urgently need to bring forward the legislation on the payment of fines.

The Courts Service has suggested a number of alternative methods for the collection of fines for motoring offences, one of which I would not agree with as it includes a reference to private debt collectors. However, we could examine other strong mechanisms which could be effective. The Courts Service has also suggested the collection of motor fines should be considered at the same time that motorists pay their annual motor tax charges. The Minister has got his hands on the national vehicle file from the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government. It should be possible for the national vehicle file to interface with the Courts Service records so that people applying for motor tax would not be allowed to renew unless their fines are paid. In other words, the penalty points on a person's licence should be increased if he or she has failed to pay the fine by that time. There is considerable scope to expand the role of the national vehicle file. I would like to know if the Minister is preparing such a Bill and if the heads are ready yet.

Shocking figures were released to me last week by the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform — Members might have heard Deputy Gilmore raising the matter in the House. These figures revealed that 110,000 warrants are outstanding from the courts, including more than 36,000 outstanding bench warrants, which is a very serious indication of a major failure in the administration of criminal and civil justice. In reply to Deputy Gilmore, the Taoiseach indicated that only approximately 20 warrants were outstanding at any one time. However, that was certainly not the case. It makes a mockery of the court and legal systems.

A few weeks ago another report indicated that up to two thirds of drivers who accumulate 12 penalty points are not voluntarily giving up their driving licences as they are legally required to do. It is clear that the penalty points system is not operating effectively enough and if that continues, the system will be totally undermined. The Minister should bring the legislation before the House early in the new year and let us pass it.

One of the key objectives of the penalty points system was to tackle speeding on the roads. We need to consider some innovative measures in this regard. There are strong indications that speed is a fundamental factor in most road crashes. I have asked whether it would be possible to use limiters. We need to consider certain cars which are imported into this country and which have gauges showing they can achieve speeds of twice or three times our maximum speed limit. Why do we need such machinery in this country? It seems to be totally against the spirit of our legislation. I put the point to the SIMI that the Minister should take a proactive role with car manufacturers at European level. Our market for new car sales at 200,000 vehicles per year is sufficiently large and attractive for manufacturers, including the market leaders such as Toyota, Ford etc. that they should heed some of our requests like the need for a wiper on the rear windscreen of saloon cars, which most makes do not have. We should demand very safe vehicles and we should not put up with vehicles which crumble or are dangerous.

In August, it was reported that 108,000 out of 440,000 drivers who committed an offence liable to penalty points since their introduction in 2002 did not get any points put on their licences because they do not have Irish driving licences. This is one of the key problems the Minister needs to address, particularly regarding drivers from Northern Ireland, but also regarding drivers from eastern Europe and the UK. Earlier today, the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Transport discussed how we would manage electronic tolls for people with foreign licences. In the next three or four months the Minister needs to take a very proactive role in this matter.

Mr. Conor Faughnan of the AA has asked for the instigation of a non-Irish driver licence file to be held alongside the national vehicle driver file and the Minister should take such an initiative. I commend Fine Gael for tabling this timely motion. I commend Deputies McEntee and O'Dowd for pursuing the issue in the Dáil. In some ways it is the most important issue for us to pursue. I know the Ceann Comhairle would take a leading role in anything the Dáil could do to ensure that for some of our citizens, who are now possibly leading happy lives, excited at the rest and enjoyment that comes at Christmas and the new year with family and friends and in our case with our supporters in politics, that type of atmosphere is not utterly destroyed by a tragedy in the family following a car crash. We should take a very proactive role in this regard.

Go raibh maith agat as ucht an deis seo labhairt ar an ábhar rí-thábhachtach seo. Tacaím leis an mhéid atá i rún Fhine Gael. Is trua go raibh ar an Rialtas leasú a chur leis, mar ní dóigh liom go raibh aon rud conspóideach ann. Ba chóir go mbeadh muid in ann aontú ar ábhar chomh tábhachtach ag an am seo den bhliain. Ní raibh an rún, mar a leagadh amach é, ag caitheamh anuas ar an Rialtas, ach ag tabhairt tacaíocht dóibh siúd atá ag déanamh iarracht na bóithre a dhéanamh níos sláine do thiománaithe agus lucht úsáide na mbóithre.

The motion before us was obviously triggered by the Road Traffic Act 2002, which is the legislative basis for penalty points. Since we have already amended and increased the number of offences for which penalty points should be awarded to drivers from five to 31, it is appropriate for us to consider how the system is fully implemented. If teething problems exist, as identified in the Fine Gael motion, including the provision that drivers voluntarily surrender their licences, we need to address them. We need to tighten up the legislation to ensure that it properly reflects the desire of the legislators when they introduced the legislation in the first place.

The motion is not a criticism of the Government. It is a practical step that should have been embraced and taken on board by the Government rather than amended. We welcome the downward trend in road deaths as mentioned in the Government amendment. We agree that the sustained implementation of road safety measures such as those listed in the amendment are welcome. They need to be rolled out and fully supported to ensure that fewer families lose loved ones following tragic road accidents.

Penalty points in themselves are not deterrents. It is a combination of mechanisms that we have produced so far. There are issues we need to address. Some people are driving without valid driving licences, in some cases through no fault of their own. My father only noticed his ten-year driving licence was expired by two weeks when he was stopped on the road. The system should allow for a reminder notice to be posted out by the local authority when a ten-year driving licence is due for renewal. It would be worth the cost of the 55 cent stamp. God forbid, if my father had been involved in an accident on that occasion, he would not have been covered by insurance. It would have been a tragic outcome because he did not knowingly drive without a valid licence. A simple reminder would be a help.

I made the point recently in the House when we were dealing with issues to do with road traffic that there should be mandatory drug testing along with the mandatory alcohol testing in the case of road traffic accidents resulting in serious injuries. Given the number of people who have died in recent times as a result of cocaine and given the extent of the drug problem, it would be appropriate to consider testing. I refer in particular to the effects of cocaine use whereby those who have taken it believe they are invincible. They become more aggressive and drive faster. We must ensure this element of testing is rolled out if at all possible.

I hope the Minister and the Government will achieve their stated aim of reducing the waiting time for driving tests. For too long, people blamed the numbers of learner drivers as being the cause of accidents. I was not one of those who believed that it was just down to those who had not passed the test. Many accidents were caused by people who had passed the test and who were cocky or confident in their driving and who exceeded the speed limit. As the previous speaker said, speed, speed and speed is the cause of many of the tragic deaths and severe injuries resulting from car accidents.

Other issues need to be addressed. There are two jurisdictions on this island and we need greater harmonisation of speed limits and penalty points. A system is required to allow penalty points to be applied to drivers from outside the State. Drivers from the Six Counties who incur penalty points should suffer the same consequences as drivers here and vice versa. There should be an all-Ireland approach to this issue and an all-Ireland licensing system to ensure the same licence and same grading of vehicles. These are practical steps which can be taken in the two jurisdictions by means of the British-Irish Ministerial Council which has resumed its meetings. Mutual recognition of penalty points could be fast-tracked as there is agreement between all parties on the island that road safety is paramount.

It is currently an offence to drive on or across cycle tracks and penalty points can be applied. However, it is not an offence to park on a cycle track and this is not liable to penalty points. This is dangerous for a cyclist who may turn a corner and find a stationary car in the way.

Penalty points are currently applied to a driver who exceeds the speed limit by one or two kilometres. However, a driver who exceeds the limit by 30 km or 40 km incurs the same penalty points. I suggest a graded system of penalty points with additional points for those who are well over the speed limit. I have noted drivers who are well over the limit but they will be penalised the same as somebody who has exceeded the limit by one or two kilometres.

Tacaím leis an rún agus tá súil agam go mbeidh an Rialtas sásta an leasú seo a tharraingt siar agus déanamh cinnte go ndéanfar beart de réir briathar an rún atá os ár gcomhair.

I compliment my colleague for tabling this motion. The Government is not able to deal with the penalty points situation; there is no system for notifying people who are given penalty points. Many of my constituents were unable to pay their fines at the post office because the system had been computerised and had been moved on to the next section. A person should be allowed pay such fines. They must wait for somebody to call to the door. I understand 44,000 summonses have not been issued by the Department and something is very wrong.

The abuse of drugs has been talked about for the past week. Many people have been killed on the roads, not because of drunken driving but because of people taking drugs. I hope the Minister will respond tomorrow night and inform the House of the situation regarding testing for drugs. Has the Government clarified the legal position with the Attorney General? There is no doubt that some people have been killed on the roads because they have been high on cocaine. Given of the level of drug-taking, there must be hundreds of people in clubs and pubs who hop into cars and think they are Roy Rogers or whoever and that they can drive at 100 km/h when they are high on drugs. I want to know the up-to-date position. When will legislation be introduced to deal with this very serious problem?

The issue of foreign drivers has been raised on many occasions. They come from England, America and Northern Ireland. When will these people be prosecuted and when will penalty points be applied to their licences? When will there be an all-Ireland system so that people who break the law in this State will have penalty points applied to their licences in whatever jurisdiction they reside?

I live in a tourism town. Drivers from England and Northern Ireland break all the rules of the road. They do not care whether they are given tickets or penalty points because they know the Irish State will not be able to do anything. They park where they like and they do not seem to mind the parking tickets on their cars because they drive back to Northern Ireland, England and America and nothing is done about it. This gives the wrong example to those who obey the law.

Driving should be part of the transition year curriculum in schools. Young people could be taught how to drive. Anyone applying for a gun licence must be given clearance by the Garda Síochána. A car is a bigger weapon. More people are killed by cars than by guns. We should educate people at a young age and train them to respect a vehicle and the rules of the road. I hope driving will be taught in schools.

Since penalty points were introduced, people have changed their attitude and have changed how they drive. They know that if they do not drive correctly on the road there is a possibility that they will lose their licence. There is no doubt the penalty points system has worked.

Debate adjourned.
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