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Thursday, 13 Dec 2007

Vol. 644 No. 2

Adjournment Debate.

Health Service Inquiries.

I thank the Leas-Cheann Comhairle for affording me the opportunity to raise the matter. All children are vulnerable but particular safeguards are required for children with intellectual disability. The report I wish to raise is that of Dr. Kevin McCoy on the Western Health Board inquiry into the Brothers of Charity services in Galway, and it is disturbing for a whole series of reasons. One of these has not come to any serious public notice.

In March 1999 an inquiry team was put in place at the request of the Brothers of Charity to examine serious allegations of physical and sexual abuse of many children who suffered an intellectual disability and who had been cared for within institutions run by the Brothers of Charity in Galway. It is extraordinary that this commission of inquiry was appointed in March 1999 but by mid 2001 every member appointed to it had resigned. All that was left was the chairperson, and two of the people appointed to the inquiry by the Western Health Board had resigned by the middle of summer 1999.

It has taken an unacceptable period for the report to be published, some nine years from the initiation of the inquiry. If the victims of abuse had not been persons of intellectual disability, there would have been a public scandal a number of years ago and a demand for publication.

I want an inquiry by the Department on what happened with this inquiry team. Why had they all resigned by August 2001 and why was this not made public knowledge? Why did the chairman apparently struggle on and survive until January or February 2006 before resigning? Dr. McCoy, who finally completed the report, was given the task in spring 2004 of providing assistance and finally piecing together the information to allow a report to be published in November 2007.

In the context of serious allegations of sexual and physical abuse of people with intellectual disability, it is entirely unacceptable that it took this length of time to publish this report. I demand an inquiry into the manner in which the Western Health Board and later the HSE approached the task.

The report itself details yet another tragic litany of abuse but we are given absolutely no information. Despite taking almost nine years for it to be published, only 21 victims of alleged abuse were dealt with, although 135 residents in Brothers of Charity institutions have sought compensation through the redress board for alleged abuse of a sexual nature.

The report did not travel the distance and produce the comprehensive information it was obliged to. It contains a variety of recommendations, some of which have become familiar to Members because they are a mirror image of recommendations produced in other reports into the abuse of children in institutions. All that makes this different is that it applies to children who have an intellectual disability.

This report should have been published by approximately 2001 at the latest, and these recommendations should have been introduced long ago. I call on the Minister to ensure we have national standards put in place and inspections conducted in residential centres and community homes for children and adults with disabilities. This has been promised since the mid 1990s but nothing has been done.

There are currently 400 children with disabilities living in residential settings whose homes are not inspected and where there are no applicable national care standards. There are applicable standards for children taken into care under the Children Acts, as well as an inspectorate system. We do not have it for those who have a disability.

I want an accountable and transparent system which protects the children in this country. I call on the Minister to take the necessary initiative to give this the priority the Western Health Board and HSE in this case have failed to give. Will the Minister detail to this House the specific action being taken to ensure the detailed recommendations contained in the report will be implemented?

There is another extremely disturbing aspect of the report. Identified in the report not personally but by number are 18 people who engaged in physical and sexual abuse. Eight of them have since died, two have been prosecuted and eight have never been prosecuted. I want to know why prosecutions were not taken in those incidences.

I would like to posit a brief theory as to why this is the case. In the courts in October we saw a tragic case of a 20-year-old adult with Down's syndrome in circumstances in which allegations of sexual assault were taken against an individual. Those allegations were dismissed by our courts because the judge hearing the case took the view that the person suffering from Down's syndrome did not have the intellectual capacity to give evidence and deal with cross-examination. That court has laid down a ruling that creates a very serious problem. It indicates to predators that it is open season on those who suffer disability and cannot provide evidence in our court system. There is an urgent need to enact emergency legislation to address that issue and protect the people who are so vulnerable because they suffer from a disability. We are in breach of the European Convention on Human Rights in this area. It is reasonable to posit that no prosecutions were not taken against eight of the people, who, it is accepted, perpetrated sexual and physical abuse against intellectually disabled children referred to in the report, because the prosecution authorities feared the prosecutions would fail for the reason the prosecution failed in the case I have identified. I ask the Government to address the issue as an urgent matter to protect persons who suffer from disability.

I thank the Deputy for raising this important issue. On Tuesday, 11 December 2007, the HSE published a report into allegations of physical and sexual abuse in the Brothers of Charity services in Galway, at the Holy Family School and Woodlands Residential Service at Renmore, Galway City and Kilcornan Residential Services, Clarinbridge, County Galway. The inquiry was established in 1999 when the Western Health Board and the Garda Síochána became aware of allegations of abuse within the Brothers of Charity services. Allegations were made in respect of a period between 1965 and 1998 by 21 clients at the Renmore and Kilcornan services against 18 people. Some 11 were members of the Brothers of Charity congregation, four were lay staff and three were former service users.

There was a serious delay in completing the report. It was initiated by the former Western Health Board in 1999 and no report was finalised until now. The HSE has apologised to the victims and their families for this delay. Dr. Kevin McCoy, retired chief inspector of social services in Northern Ireland, was commissioned in May 2006 to finalise the report.

Does the Minister of State know why the inquiry team resigned?

The report details terrible abuse suffered by some of the most vulnerable members of society. It is further evidence of how some of the most vulnerable people in society were badly let down in the past. On behalf of the Government, I reiterated on Tuesday the Taoiseach's formal apology to all those affected by abuse in institutions operated or funded by the State, including the Brothers of Charity services in Galway.

The HSE has advised me that the original inquiry team acted promptly in 2000 by notifying the Garda Síochána of all allegations of abuse and relaying all files and cases to them. I understand that two of those who are the subject of complaints received a conviction. The then Western Health Board and subsequently the HSE have worked closely with the Brothers of Charity in offering immediate support for those affected, follow-up for each individual client using the service, and follow-up for service users generally.

Regarding the number of cases investigated, it is important to bear in mind that only those who made formal complaints could be dealt with individually by the inquiry. While we understand that others may have applied for redress under the redress board scheme, their confidentially must be respected.

I understand that agreement had been reached between the HSE and the Federation of Voluntary Bodies to develop a programme to close all institutional or campus style residential services for people with disabilities and to relocate them to more appropriate community settings. The Woodlands Residential Centre was closed in 1984, and the Kilcornan Residential Centre is in the process of being closed. Residents will be relocating to more appropriate accommodation in the community as soon as possible. I also understand that agreement has been reached with the Federation of Voluntary Bodies to carry out a comprehensive national audit and review of client protection issues within disability services.

A number of important issues have been highlighted by the publication of this report. The delay in preparing the report is totally unacceptable. The HSE has already apologised individually to each complainant and did so again on Tuesday when the report was published. At the request of the Department of Health and Children, the HSE is developing protocols for the management of all future inquiries of this kind.

In addition, I have arranged to have an immediate inquiry carried out by an independent person into the causes of the delay in preparing this report. The person will be asked to report to me as quickly as possible. I am committed to ensuring that all residential facilities for people with a disability are independently monitored and inspected by the Health Information and Quality Authority. HIQA has commenced work on standards for designated residential centres for people with a disability which will form the basis for statutory regulations and inspections. In the meantime, I have asked the HSE to take all possible action to ensure the quality and safety of these services. The HSE recently published a formal guidance document on residential facilities for children and will do so in respect of adults early in 2008. The HSE will be making it a condition of funding under its service level agreements that the contractual arrangements between the HSE and agencies that provide disability service will include, for the first time, quality and safety measures to ensure that the users of a service can enjoy a rewarding and safe experience to which they are entitled.

Services for People with Disabilities.

I wish to raise the problem that seems to have existed for some time with the quantity and capacity of production from the NBPC, the National Braille Production Centre, in Cabra. A constituent has notified me of a difficulty. Her son who has a sight problem has not been provided with the books he requires. She has had a kind of Kafkaesque dialogue with a State-aided organisation in which trying to get information is like trying to get blood from a stone. From the reply to a parliamentary question I tabled, I understand that 146 clients are waiting to have Braille books delivered. Of those, 90 clients will have their books provided before Christmas. When I sent this information back to my constituent I got the following response:

We have been trying to get answers from the NBPC and have failed and have considered the FOI Act. Can you advise if the FOI Act would be a channel we could use to get information from the NBPC? We have also been in touch with the Equality Authority who have expressed an interest in our case. . . . . As you can see from the response to your question the number of outstanding Braille books is very high. These students are obviously waiting for their books since September which is outrageous. The NBPC kept telling us that we were an isolated case. [My son] received another 12 pages of one of his maths books last week (the order having been placed in early July), again some of the contents arriving too late for him to benefit from. He is still waiting for the remaining chapters which we have been told won't arrive now until next year. In relation to the orders outstanding for the other students I wonder how long ago they were placed.

In a separate note she communicated to me as follows:

[A] Visiting Teacher recently gave our family a demonstration in Braille production. Within minutes even my 13 year old was able to translate text to Braille on the PC and send it to an electronic Braille embosser, ready for [my son] to read. The process is so simple and straightforward that I cannot understand why the NBPC cannot produce enough books for so few students, and on time.

This is no reflection on the Minister who is present but I am sorry the Minister with direct knowledge of the area or the Minister of State is not here to reply to this matter. What is the problem and why has it taken so long for books to be produced? Partially sighted and blind students have enough disabilities to contend with in the context of their education. This should not be compounded by what seems to me to be inexplicable inefficiency from this body. I have no reason to doubt that modern technology linking computers to an embossing machine could produce these kinds of documents very quickly. People who are blind or seriously disadvantaged by a sight disability cannot get the books they require on order, even though the knowledge and data of their existence is well established.

Perhaps the Minister who is here on behalf of the Minister for Education and Science has an answer. Citizens of this State should not be treated by a publicly-funded organisation as if they were some kind of persons to whom information could not be given and should not be forced to resort to their public representatives asking questions on their behalf. If this Republic is to celebrate any kind of maturity, then surely we should treat citizens with respect and they should be able to get this information themselves.

I thank the Deputy for raising the question. I have noted carefully what he has said and he will find some interesting information in the reply.

The National Braille Production Centre was established in 2000 to provide blind and visually impaired pupils at first and second level with textbooks in Braille and other alternative formats. The National Braille Production Centre produces educational materials in Braille, large print format and text-only for children who are blind or visually impaired. It is an essential service to children and young people who are blind or visually impaired and without it many of them would not be able to access mainstream education or be able to undertake the junior and senior cycle examinations.

It is important that this service is adequately funded to enable it to meet the needs of children who are blind or visually impaired. The Department of Education and Science provides annual funding to the National Braille Production Centre of €867,000.

The National Braille Production Centre has expanded from a workforce of four in 2000 to 26 in 2007. The centre has achieved a huge increase in textbook production in the past seven years, with client numbers increasing dramatically from 17 clients in 2000 to 301 clients in 2007. The centre has advised the Department of Education and Science that it has delivered 95% of all guaranteed book orders this year.

The National Braille Production Centre operates under an agreed timeframe for book orders and deliveries. As high-standard Braille production for education is both time and work intensive — I have noted what the Deputy said about computers and I see a role for them — the timeframe ideally envisages orders to be placed as early as possible in an academic year for the following September. It is accepted practice generally that when a new title is transcribed, the book will be delivered to the student in volumes, unless it is a title that has been previously transcribed, in which case all volumes are available very quickly.

In the case of late orders or other unforeseen circumstances where a delay occurs in the provision of books, officials from the National Braille Production Centre, in conjunction with the parents of the pupil or student and the Department's visiting teacher service for the visually impaired, work together to establish solutions to provide the books in a timely manner. In isolated cases a delay might occur due to very late orders, for example, after May of an academic year for the following September, or difficult texts that require manual Braille input and diagram drawing, for example, Braille mathematics. Another factor in a delay is that during 2007, the National Braille Production Centre has advised that it experienced an unexpected increase in orders and client numbers.

The Department's visiting teacher service for the visually impaired has a significant role to play in the process of ordering books or materials on behalf of a particular pupil or student. In 2006, a protocol dealing solely and exclusively with the provision of educational materials in alternative formats was agreed between the National Braille Production Centre and the Department's visiting teacher service for the visually impaired. The protocol was devised on the initiative of the visiting teacher service for the visually impaired and will be reviewed very shortly on the basis of current experience in its operation. Any amendments to the protocol will be put in place and communicated to all relevant interests, including parents, without delay following the review.

I wish to advise the Deputy that there is also an advisory board for the National Braille Production Centre in place which includes representation from parents and guardians and other interested parties, including the visiting teacher service for the visually impaired.

I thank the Deputy once again for raising this issue. I hope that by discussion and negotiation with the centre the problems he so well described will be resolved because I fully accept that being without books would be a huge impediment for any student.

I thank the Minister.

School Enrolments.

I welcome the opportunity to raise what I believe to be an extraordinary breach of the Irish Constitution, of international law and of the basic rights of the child and the urgent need to redress this breach. I refer to the imposition of conditions attached to student visas which are implemented by the Garda Síochána and which have the net result of depriving children of their rights. I will concentrate on two cases in the constituency which I share with the Minister present.

One case involves two parents, both of whom had paid very large fees to a third-level institution to do postgraduate studies. In one case the mother is continuing her postgraduate study in medieval history and the father has returned to the United States to continue his postgraduate study. Their child has been excluded from school, in flagrant violation of Article 42.4 of the Constitution which states, "The State shall provide for free primary education and shall endeavour to supplement and give reasonable aid to private and corporate educational initiative." This is not a qualified right; it is not confined to Irish citizens but is available to all children. In addition to the outrageous breach of Article 42.4, the woman involved has been told that she should provide for her child through private education. The only private education available to her is the Seventh Day Adventist school. This limitation on her choice is in clear breach of Article 42.3.1°. The Education Act 1998 is being broken and the Equal Status Act 2000, as amended in 2004 by the Equality Act, is being broken and the European Convention on Human Rights as introduced into Irish law as a binding form of law is being broken. The protocol to the European Convention on Human Rights shows the assurances to be quite similar to those in the Irish Constitution. Needless to say, the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child is being broken.

The Minister for Education and Science, in a reply to Parliamentary Question No. 741 of 11 December 2007, washes her hands of the entire situation by stating there is a clear process by which children are enrolled in school. She concludes the reply ominously and acknowledges, inter alia, “Indeed, under the Equal Status Act, schools may not discriminate in admission to schools except where this is necessary to maintain the religions values or ethos of the school.” Her conclusion to the reply shows the flimsy basis for the discrimination. She said:

The report of the interdepartmental committee on the internationalisation of Irish education, published in 2004, sets out a strategy with the objective of enhancing the attractiveness of Ireland as a quality venue for international students and increasing the numbers of students coming to Ireland to participate in further and higher education and training and in the language sector. It was envisaged that students from outside the EU-EEA and Switzerland, other than refugees and those with humanitarian leave to remain in the State, would participate on a fee paying basis.

In the course of the discussions leading to the report, the position of minors attending school for second level education was discussed, and the existing immigration policy that student visas should be allowed only in respect of attendance at fee-paying schools was confirmed, on the basis that to do otherwise would give rise to additional demands on the State.

This is being implemented at primary level without any legal basis in outrageous breach of the Constitution. In addition, the Garda is involved in its implementation because, as such parents arrive to have their visas renewed, they are being told that if they have children in State schools, they must withdraw them and send them to a private school. Will the Minister please respond to the specific questions relating to the breach of the Constitution and the European Convention on the Rights of the Child? On what basis does the Garda have powers to instruct that a child be taken from a public school? It has no such powers. All efforts at finding where responsibility may lie have failed. I have concentrated on this case by way of illustration but there is another involving people from a much less wealthy background who are in the same position with their child who was accepted at a school, the principal of which has written to me about it. The child has had to be removed from the school on the instructions of the Garda under threat of deportation.

What right does the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform have to impose conditions that contradict the rights of the child which the Minister for Education and Science acknowledged in her reply? The view of the Department of Education and Science is that it has nothing to do with the Minister, as she only deals with admissions. The attitude of the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform is that it is entitled to make this condition. My advice to the individuals involved — three in total, two of whom came to see me directly in Galway — is to seek legal redress immediately. It is appalling that a totally illegal set of actions is depriving children of their right to a primary education.

I thank the Deputy for raising this issue, which is a complex one. I reply on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Brian Lenihan, who unfortunately cannot be present. This provides an opportunity to bring additional clarity to what is a complex issue.

The child is entitled to an education; that is not complex. Under the Constitution, the child is entitled to be at school in the public system.

I will continue with the reply and explain the complexities.

The Minister acknowledges that at first sight there appears to be a contradiction between the policies of the two Departments. However, on closer examination this is not the case. The Minister is aware of the right of all children in the State to a primary education and supports it fully.

By ordering the Garda to refuse their parents' visas.

As a former Minister of State with responsibility for children, the Minister is particularly well informed on issues regarding children's rights. However, what is at issue in this instance is not, in essence, the right of a child to an education, which is not in dispute, but the rights and obligations of parents permitted to come to Ireland as students. In other words, while a foreign national child is entitled to free education while in Ireland, this in no way implies a right for them or their parents to enter the State for that purpose. All sovereign states have the right to determine who should enter their territory and the conditions attaching to that entry and residence. That is a basic feature of immigration systems and immigration law.

The Minister has no right to make conditions.

The Deputy should allow the Minister to conclude his reply.

In Ireland, the key section of legislation is section 5(1) of the Immigration Act 2004, which states: "No non-national may be in the State other than in accordance with the terms of any permission given to him or her before the passing of this Act, or a permission given under this Act after such passing, by or on behalf of the Minister".

The European Convention on Human Rights Bill enacted in 2003 supersedes it.

The Deputy should please allow the Minister to conclude.

Like those of other states, the Irish immigration system caters for various categories of migrant with different conditions applicable to each one. At one end of the scale, persons granted refugee status have extensive rights. High skilled workers also benefit from favourable conditions. Permission to remain in the State as a student, on the other hand, is a very limited form of permission aimed solely at facilitating the student to undertake a course of study. The student is expected to be self-sufficient during his or her stay.

And to be childless.

A concession has been granted to allow a student to do some casual work to help support himself or herself while here. The underlying principle regarding self-sufficiency is that the foreign national who is here on that basis would not need to avail of State funds or State-funded services, nor would any dependent family members allowed to enter the State require such State benefits. It is clear that having a child educated at the State's expense would be in breach of this requirement. However, an exception is made where the child is attending a fee-paying school on the basis that the parents are making a contribution to the costs involved.

The permission to come to Ireland is not independent from the conditions attaching to it. If students had the right to be accompanied by dependent family members who would be entitled to avail of State-funded services, it is almost certain they would not be allowed to enter in the first place.

Only childless couples.

The immigration authorities are encountering an increasing number of students coming to Ireland for the express purpose of having their children educated. This is an abuse of Ireland's hospitality and must be seen as contrary to public policy. To reiterate, it is not a question of a child's entitlement to an education——

It absolutely is, as the Minister knows well.

The Deputy must allow the Minister to conclude.

I do not agree with the Deputy. If I enter a country on express agreed conditions, it is incumbent on me to abide by them.

But the Minister has no right to limit the rights of a child, nor has the Minister, Deputy Brian Lenihan.

I appreciate Deputy Higgins's passion and interest in the issue but he must allow the Minister to conclude his reply.

The State has the right in cases where there are agreed conditions because a person comes and is accepted on those conditions.

Yes. The Deputy is incorrect. I have no doubt that if the person concerned brings the case to court, it will vindicate the position of the Government. To reiterate, it is not a question of a child's entitlement while here but rather whether the child and his or her parents should in the circumstances be here in the first place. I understand the immigration authorities are looking at the matter with a view to making an exception to cover the current school year so as not to disadvantage the children concerned in this case. This would be on a strictly limited basis and any adult student wishing to stay beyond the end of the school year would be required to adhere strictly to whatever conditions were in force at the time. I also understand the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform has general concerns regarding the operation of the student immigration sector and the level of abuse of student permissions and that it is his intention to outline policy changes early in the new year.

I thank the Minister.

What about the Garda powers?

If somebody is not adhering to the conditions attached to his or her presence in the State, the Garda has a right to intervene.

It has no powers in this area.

The Deputy must be a better lawyer than the Minister.

The Minister and the Deputy are both well aware of the rules regarding the conduct of these debates.

I wish to explain matters to my constituency colleague.

I appreciate the efforts to stimulate and continue the debate.

Planning Issues.

Níl ach triúr Teachtaí Dála as Gaillimh here agus tú féin, a Chathaoirligh, sa Chamber anois. It is with a certain reluctance that I raise this matter on the Adjournment. I had tried by various diplomatic means and telephone calls to resolve the problem but I seemed to be getting deeper into the problem rather than solving it. I am glad to see opposite the Minister, Deputy Ó Cuív, who may be able to assist.

I had contacted the Department about this and got a great deal of conflicting information. Last week I was told that this man's appeal against proposed designation of a quarry area in south Connemara was closed on 23 August last. That could not be possible because I have here a letter dated 23 August which the man received on 27 August, stating that in order to progress his request to have the lands removed from the SAC a scientific assessment of the lands in question must be carried out and, in another sentence nearer the end, asking him to confirm his agreement to an inspection by contacting the office by 4 September 2007.

The man replied to the Department by letter on 30 August 2007, stating that he would give Mr. O'Donnell and his assistant permission to enter his lands, but that he must be informed of when they would come. The man finally got a letter on 11 September acknowledging receipt of his letter of 30 August and stating that the issues he had raised were currently under consideration and the NPWS would write to him in due course. That would clearly indicate to me that the file could not have been closed on 23 August because there was ongoing correspondence between the NPWS and the land and quarry owner.

A letter received by the client in October 1997 stated that where restrictions arise compensation will be paid and wished to emphasis that a service is not anti-development, and that the service would not object to the man's proposals to renovate some existing house on his property — which he does not intend to do — and has no desire to interfere with the working of his quarry. That seems clear to me. As this quarry was pre-1963, its owner must have it registered under section 261. He fulfilled this requirement and has his quarry registered. It is No. 81 on the register in Galway County Council. A letter from Galway County Council to the land and quarry owner on 16 September 2007 stated that the planning authority deemed his quarry to be unauthorised solely on the basis that it was in an SAC.

It is clear to me that this should be an ongoing case. The owner of the quarry has made many efforts to have this matter resolved, including a meeting in the National Parks and Wildlife Service office in Letterfrack on 11 May last with Mr. O'Donnell, and the Minister would be familiar with that also. The man left that meeting thinking that the matter was resolved but here we are, six months later, and the matter is not resolved. I hope there can be a solution to this problem.

I want to pose a few questions that the Minister might be able to answer. Although it is not his brief, it was formerly his and he might be able to answer the questions anyway. Why was this man's quarry included in the SAC designation when it was not necessary to be protected by designation for any scientific or vegetation value included in the Wildlife Act? Why were all other quarries in Connemara either not included in, or taken out of, the SAC by virtue of the fact that they were operating quarries which were deemed to have no scientific value, and this quarry — from my knowledge of it — has certainly no scientific value?

When the National Parks and Wildlife Service sent proposals to Europe for designation of SACs, the reason given for not using CPOs on privately owned lands was there would be active consultation with individual landowners, compromise to be reached with landowners and compensation to be paid if the landowner was compromised.

The owner of this quarry and his family have suffered considerable stress and financial hardship as a result of this ongoing problem. There seems to be no solution to the problem of withdrawing this man's quarry from designation as a SAC so that he could continue to supply material to Galway County Council, as he had done prior to its being designated as an SAC. Ba mhaith liom freagra ar an gceist seo a fháil ón Aire ar son an fear as Ghaeltacht Conamara agus a chlann.

Ba mhaith liom buíochas a ghlacadh leis an Teachta as ucht an cheist seo a ardú liom anseo tráthnóna. Tá súil agam go ndéanfaidh an fhreagra a dtabharfaidh mé beagáinín soiléiriú ar an gceist. Mholfainn don Teachta comhairle a thabhairt don duine úd an cheist seo a phlé leis an lucht pleanála agus le muintir na Roinne chomh luath agus is féidir.

I thank the Deputy for raising this question and I am happy to respond on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government. As Deputy McCormack will be aware, special areas of conservation, SACs, are proposed for designation under the European Communities (Natural Habitats) Regulations. These regulations provide a mechanism for designation and protection of important ecological areas in Ireland as part of Natura 2000 — a network of protected sites throughout the European Union. These sites protect Europe's most important and rare nature.

There is a open and objective system of appeal for any landowner if he or she objects to his or her land being designated. In fact, I and my colleague, former Deputy Síle de Valera, were involved in introducing this. The Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government operates a two-tier objection process. The first stage, an informal assessment of the objection, is carried out by departmental staff. This assessment will usually require a site visit. If an objector is dissatisfied with the outcome of this assessment he or she may have the case referred to an independent appeals advisory board for a formal hearing. This board consists of representation of both landowner and conservationist interests and will review the scientific merits of the inclusion of the land within the SAC. On completion of the assessment the board makes a recommendation to the Minister.

The SAC site in question, the Connemara Bog Complex, was first proposed for designation in March 1997. These proposals were advertised in the local press and landowners identified by the National Parks and Wildlife Service, NPWS, were notified directly in writing. In September 1997, the gentleman referred to lodged a written objection to the inclusion of his lands within the SAC. However, it was not possible to process his objection as he requested extensive information in advance, which was neither available nor appropriate.

As a result of an agreement between the Government and farming organisations in 2004, in the context of the national partnership talks, the Connemara Bog Complex SAC was one of 26 sites re-proposed for designation in December 2006. As in 1997, these proposals were advertised in the local press and known landowners were notified directly in writing.

The gentleman in question again submitted a written objection to the inclusion of his lands in the SAC. Despite extensive correspondence and meetings with senior Department staff, it again was not possible for the Department to secure his unqualified agreement to process the objection. Following a written warning on the 23 August 2007, the gentleman did not agree to an unconditional assessment of his land and therefore his objection was closed in September. He was verbally notified of this and will be notified in writing in the coming days.

Ireland's designation process must be completed in order to complete its list of SACs and provide finalised boundaries for all SAC sites. Ireland could incur large EU fines should we be unable to finalise objections in a timely manner. In this context, the Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government has given commitments to the European Commission that outstanding objections will be processed without any unnecessary delays. Against this background, the Department must strictly adhere to the normal procedures for dealing with objectors who are unwilling to co-operate with the objections process. In such cases objections are deemed to be closed.

Under certain circumstances it is possible for development to be carried out within an SAC provided this development does not have an impact on the scientific integrity of the site. This is vital information as there is a major misunderstanding with regard to this point. The Department is always happy to discuss proposed developments and activities with landowners. In other words, if an activity does not have an impact on the SAC, although I accept the Deputy's point about the quarry, it is possible to get permission. It is open for the gentleman in question to apply to the local authority for planning permission for the development. The Department would then be referred to for input as a statutory consultee. However, it is also open to him to discuss with local Department staff the details of his proposed development and the type of works that would be acceptable in an SAC.

As the Deputy is aware, there are many misunderstandings about SACs. A proposed development is not automatically refused just because it is in an SAC. In addition, just because an activity for which one has permission is to be carried out in an SAC and is a notifiable action, this does not necessarily mean it is refused if one notifies it. Thus, I suggest that the Deputy's constituent, who is also a constituent of mine, engage with the relevant authorities to try to resolve the matter and to find a way forward that does not affect the SAC but maintains its integrity while allowing him to continue his activities. I think that is what the Deputy is looking for. I encourage the constituent to follow the process clearly outlined in the reply from the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government.

The Dáil adjourned at 5.30 p.m. until 2.30 p.m. on Tuesday, 18 December 2007.
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