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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 11 Nov 2008

Vol. 666 No. 3

Adjournment Debate.

Job Creation.

I wrote to the chief executive of IDA Ireland last January, Mr. Barry O'Leary, requesting a meeting about the decision to put the Tralee-based company Telestone on the market, and about growing unemployment figures. In my six years in this House I have pointed out that Kerry and the south west have been neglected by IDA Ireland and by the Government. There is almost twice the national average of unemployment in my constituency. Mr. O'Leary and two of his colleagues met with Deputy Jimmy Deenihan, Senator Ned O'Sullivan and myself in Tralee in April. They accept that what we had been saying is true, and they also recognised that Kerry had many advantages in terms of the promotion of foreign direct investment.

The latest figures from the CSO show that in the past year, the level of unemployment in Kerry has jumped by 78%. These figures are not surprising, given the downturn in the construction industry. The overall level of unemployment in Kerry has increased from 6,144 in October 2007 to 10,259 in October 2008. In Tralee, unemployment has jumped from 3,045 to 4,518, which is an increase of almost 1,500 people. In Listowel, unemployment has risen from 1,038 to 1,843 in one year. This has also led to an increase in emigration, as people find it impossible to get work in the area.

The vast majority of people leaving the country work in the construction sector. Most young people over the last seven years got a trade and went into the construction sector, and the local economy was built on this sector, which was unsustainable. Young people are now emigrating to England, the US or Australia to seek employment.

More IDA Ireland investment should have been targeted to Kerry over the years. There should have been a level playing pitch for the people of the west. From the replies to many of my parliamentary questions, it is clear that very few IDA Ireland companies have been established in Kerry, despite the fact that we have a technology park and an institute of technology. IDA Ireland appears to be devoting little effort to interesting companies to come to the county.

As 21% of the labour force work for IDA Ireland supported companies, more people in Kerry are employed by companies established under the Leader programme. These companies have a 70% success rate. We need to see more emphasis put on ensuring that indigenous industries are promoted and supported. That is one way to help the current situation. We are close to a 15% unemployment rate in Kerry, given the rise over the last 12 months. Before that, we were running at twice the national average.

Coastal communities in the region have suffered greatly with the closure of the drift net salmon fishing industry. That has contributed to the decline in the economy in rural and coastal communities. We need to see support for indigenous industries. IDA Ireland needs to pursue a policy of positive discrimination towards counties that are badly in need of investment. The best of our young population are currently leaving the country to seek employment. That is not good enough. Other Deputies from the constituency have been highlighting the problems in Kerry and the west since 2002.

I await the Minister's response. I urge that political direction be given and that positive discrimination used to bring jobs to Kerry and other areas that are suffering at the moment.

I thank the Deputy for raising this matter on the Adjournment. The recent increase in the numbers on the live register is unwelcome and is an indication of the challenges that are now facing the labour market. The Government is taking specific measures to address these challenges and to ensure that job losses are minimised as much as possible. Our priority is to create the environment that will allow those who have lost their jobs to return quickly to the labour market. The enterprise development agencies, along with FÁS, are actively engaged in facilitating job opportunities in Kerry.

IDA Ireland is concentrating its efforts in the linked hub locations of Killarney in south Kerry and Tralee in north Kerry. IDA Ireland's strategy for Kerry has been to promote the county as part of an integrated region with access both to the county population as well as to the expanded population of both the mid-west and south-west regions. There were 16 IDA Ireland supported companies in Kerry at the end of 2007, employing approximately 1,838 people. Based on the strengths of the region, IDA Ireland is particularly targeting the ICT, international financial services and globally traded business sectors via its network of overseas offices and project divisions.

Due to the high value projects targeted by IDA Ireland, companies that decide to visit Ireland have more sophisticated business requirements. The key needs in determining where they will potentially locate tend to centre on the following criteria: a high quality business environment with access to a large population base; close proximity to an international airport and top quality road infrastructure to allow ease of access; proximity to other similar types of companies; and a location adjacent to a third level institution and in a business and technology park, with high quality office accommodation and telecoms infrastructure.

These requirements may not be fully met in many towns and this can be inhibit the attraction of overseas investment. In Kerry, as elsewhere, there is a need to mobilise initiatives and resources on a regional rather than on a purely local basis, in order to compete effectively with other strong regions, cities and countries.

IDA Ireland is also working closely with educational institutions in the region to develop the skills necessary to attract high valued-added employment to the county. It is also working with FÁS to provide guidance for those in the workforce who are interested in up-skilling. In Tralee, IDA Ireland is marketing Shannon Development's Kerry Technology Park. The institute of technology, located in the park, is providing a skilled work force for companies that wish to set up there. Enterprise Ireland has provided over €2 million in capital as well as other supports for the development of incubation facilities also located in the park. IDA Ireland continues to market all available land and buildings in the county, including its 12 acre business and technology park in Tiernaboul, Killarney.

New indigenous companies have also been established and have created new employment in the county. In 2007, an investment of €21 million was announced under the community enterprise centre scheme which will run from 2007 to 2009. It is expected to generate 330 new businesses and create over 1,500 new jobs. Enterprise Ireland will target funding at those communities in which job losses have been most acute. In September 2008, 70 new jobs were announced for Aetna in Castleisland. Earlier this year, it was announced that the Tralee-based company Donseed Limited is to invest €1.2 million to accelerate international growth. This investment will enhance the company's in house research and development and sales functions, and create 26 new high-value positions at the company over the next two years.

A full range of FÁS services to the unemployed is available in the FÁS offices in Tralee and Killarney, and these are further supported by a twice weekly clinic service in Cahirciveen, Castleisland, Dingle, Kenmare, Killorglin and Listowel. There are approximately 1,172 people currently participating in FÁS training programmes in Kerry, with 961 participating in community employment projects in Killarney and Tralee. The other programmes in the region include local training initiatives, supported employment, national learning networks and community training centres.

In response to changes in the labour market in 2008 and projections for 2009, the FÁS training centre in Tralee is currently finalising activity proposals next year. A new range of training initiatives will be rolled out for 2009, which includes a number of new short courses of approximately six weeks duration, which will be scheduled through contract arrangements at locations throughout County Kerry. These courses are aimed at providing additional skills to recently unemployed people with a view to equipping them quickly to re-enter the work force. It is envisaged that up to 300 training places will be available on these courses in Kerry.

An additional 1,000 places will be offered to the unemployed who wish to participate in self-financing evening courses. These courses will be offered at a number of venues in the county on Saturdays and on afternoons, as well as evenings. On-line training options using a number of learning supports will be available to approximately 700 people, with priority access for the unemployed. This measure will be facilitated by the new multi-media room, which was installed in the Tralee training centre in the middle of this year.

Approximately 100 traineeship places in specific skills areas are also planned between in-centre and outreach locations in Kerry next year. For those who have lost their jobs and also for those in employment, the importance of upskilling in the context of this economy's competitiveness is vital. The skills of our workforce will need to be able to adapt quickly to meet the challenges posed by a rapidly shifting global economic market. The participation of ever-greater numbers of our population in life-long learning is essential to ensuring that this country's economy remains adaptable against the background of the kind of economic challenges that we and most other developed nations are facing today. Through individually tailored training programmes, run both by FÁS and Skillnets, the Government is demonstrating its commitment to life-long learning for our workforce.

Taking all the above factors into account, it is clear that we are taking action to deal with the economic and employment challenges facing the people of Kerry and throughout the country.

Crime Levels.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for allowing me to raise this critical matter for the people of Limerick. I also thank the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform for attending the House for this Adjournment matter and for recognising how important the issue is. I express my deepest sympathy to the Geoghegan family on the tragic and brutal murder of Shane Geoghegan. He was a keen sportsman with Garryowen rugby club. This has been a very difficult time for the family. Shane is being waked tonight in Limerick and his funeral mass takes place tomorrow.

Like everyone else in Limerick, I was absolutely shocked at what happened. Shane was coming home having watched the Canada-Ireland rugby match on television when he was gunned down in a callous and brutal fashion by amoral and ruthless individuals. It defies logic and is a watershed moment which can never be allowed to recur. Some of the measures I am proposing may be difficult, but such measures are needed in difficult times. I am approaching it from the premise that we can never allow anything like this to happen again. A small minority of individuals in Limerick are destroying life for everyone else. There have been four gangland murders already this year in Limerick.

I am proposing that the Government establish an Anvil-style operation, as was done after Veronica Guerin's murder in Dublin. An assistant Garda commissioner should be appointed to head up a 24-hour armed surveillance unit to track these gangland criminals and ensure that they cannot move freely. A fully-resourced CAB unit should also be established in Limerick. We must get at the financial assets of such people, who must be prosecuted. In addition, a second judge should be appointed to the Circuit Criminal Court, which has a back-log of cases.

Some 40 people are currently in custody who are directly linked to criminal gangs in Limerick. Gangland membership must designated as a specific criminal offence. We should allow an assistant Garda commissioner or chief superintendent to provide evidence to a court, such as the Special Criminal Court. Everyone knows who is committing these crimes and we have to take these people out of circulation. Such action must be taken because they are creating a fear factor amongst the general public.

The Garda should be able to obtain exclusion orders in court in respect of these criminals so they cannot move into certain areas of the city. It is proving difficult to do this at the moment. There must be a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years for murder and ten years for possession of illegal firearms, without the possibility of bail. Many offences are being committed by people while out on bail. In addition, electronic surveillance of gangland criminals should be provided. Many of these crimes are being directed from prison. It is critical to extend to Limerick and other prisons the current pilot scheme in Portlaoise, blocking mobile phone coverage in such places of detention.

The witness protection programme must be put on a statutory footing and the right to silence must be qualified. It is critical that suspects cannot rely purely on the right to remain silent. Objections could be overcome by allowing videotapes of interviews in Garda stations to be used as evidence in court. This would ensure people could see when such people are remaining silent during questioning.

We need decisive action from the Government. Earlier today, the Taoiseach made vague statements, but the Government must provide a statement of intent. It must deal head on with gangland crime in Limerick. This can be done by providing an assistant Garda commissioner and a 24-hour armed surveillance unit in the city. It should be a specific criminal offence to be a member of a criminal gang anywhere in Ireland. An assistant Garda commissioner or chief superintendent should be able to provide intelligence and give evidence in a court, like the Special Criminal Court, to take these people out of circulation.

I sympathise with the Geoghegan family at this difficult time. We can never allow anything like this to happen again. The Government must come forward with specific remedies and actions in this regard.

I also appreciate the presence of the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform in the House this evening. I regret the fact that this discussion is so short, but we will have another opportunity to debate this matter. It is 11 years since the former Taoiseach, Deputy Bertie Ahern, promised that his Government would protect the people from gangland crime. He failed in this war, which the Government is losing. There have been 130 gangland murders in the past 11 years, but only 14 convictions. Despite the good efforts of the Garda Síochána, particularly in Limerick, this is an abysmal record nationwide. It is a poor conviction rate and too many innocent bystanders have lost their lives, the latest of whom was Shane Geoghegan, to whose family we extend our sympathy. The others include Brian Fitzgerald, Donna Cleary, Anthony Campbell, Darren Coughlan and Seán Boland. People are terrified, while criminals act with impunity, regularly handing down their own form of twisted justice.

The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, Deputy Dermot Ahern, and his colleague, the Minister for Defence, Deputy O'Dea, have spoken on national television about sections 71, 72 and 73 of the Criminal Justice Act 2006, but those provisions are not working. They are unworkable. There have been no prosecutions taken since they were enacted and this is the most important legislation in the Minister's armoury. There have been no prosecutions taken, much less convictions recorded. What we need is 24-hour monitoring and surveillance of a type that again will require further legislation as adverted to by no less a person than the former Taoiseach, Deputy Bertie Ahern, more than a year ago. It has not happened. We are waiting for years for a DNA database and it has not happened. We really need new laws to prevent criminals from associating and operating in certain areas. Deputy O'Donnell referred to exclusion orders and we will have a chance to deal with that issue at a later stage.

I remind the Minister we need a mechanism to arrest and charge these people and take them out of circulation because too many lives have been lost. The adverse effects in terms of mayhem, destruction and murder on not only the people of Limerick but also the people of parts of Dublin and many parts of this country is such that what we have is simply insufficient.

Ultimately, when convictions are recorded and when judges hand out lengthy prison sentences, we have the situation as in Portlaoise in my own constituency where it is reported widely as fact, and this is not rumour, and mention has been made in court under sworn testimony, that these crime bosses and gang lords continue to operate their evil empires from behind prison bars. This is simply unsustainable. The mobile phone blocking technology in Portlaoise is not working, pilot scheme or no pilot scheme. It is not happening. We have referred to this issue over a long number of months as being——

It is in the Midlands Prison and it is working.

It does not matter where it is because it is still not working. The Keane-Collopy gang are in the Midlands Prison and the McCarthy-Dundon gang are in Portlaoise because these people are so vicious and so vile in the perpetration of their heinous activities that they cannot even be housed in the one security prison. I ask the Minister to act in this matter because the attitude to date has been far too laid back and far too blasé. What the people want is confidence in a system, and they do not have that currently.

I am grateful to both Deputies for raising this matter. When we discuss this issue on Thursday, we will have a better opportunity to consider some of the valid points raised by Deputy O'Donnell in particular. I do not accept that there is a laid-back attitude when one considers that this House passed significant legislation in 2006 and 2007.

Shane Geoghegan was a respected young man brutally gunned down in the early hours of last Sunday morning. This young man was a valued member of a close-knit community to which he contributed so much. His tragic death is a stark reminder of the callous disregard that some in the community have for human life. My deepest sympathy goes to his family and friends at this very difficult time.

There is nothing I can say which I would expect to console them in any way in their great loss. However, they are entitled to know that all the resources of the State will be used to bring the despicable cowards, the scum involved in this killing, to the justice which they deserve. This is not the time for political points scoring nor is it a time to pretend that there are instant off-the-shelf solutions which at a stroke can remove this type of evil completely from our midst. The fight against those involved in gangland crime is going to be long and must be waged relentlessly. I assure the House that this Government will continue to provide all the necessary resources, financial and legislative, to tackle the problem of gangland crime head on.

This morning, the Taoiseach and I met the Garda Commissioner to discuss general criminal justice issues and, in particular, the ongoing investigation into the brutal killing of Shane Geoghegan. We are determined that his murderers will be caught and put behind bars. The Commissioner briefed the Taoiseach and me on the latest developments in the intensive investigation under way in Limerick. He said that all investigative resources which are required to bring the investigation to a successful conclusion are available to the Garda Síochána. Subsequent to our meeting, the Commissioner travelled to Limerick to meet the regional assistant commissioner for the southern region, including Limerick, and the investigation team to discuss directly with them the progress of the investigation. The Commissioner confirmed that the Garda Síochána has at its disposal the laws and resources necessary for it to carry out its duties effectively in respect of this case and of the wider issue of criminal gangs in Limerick.

I assure Deputy Flanagan there is and has been 24-7 constant covert and overt surveillance in Limerick over recent years as part of Operation Anvil. We informed the Commissioner that any additional assistance needed, whether legislative or by way of resources, to deal with the Limerick criminal gangs will be provided. Deputies will accept that significant Garda resources have been put into Limerick and this has been acknowledged by the Opposition and by independent commentators. In the past year alone there has been a 12% increase in Garda numbers in Limerick, from 422 to 474, and a 43% increase since 2003.

There is a high level of surveillance in place. Divisional 24-hour armed patrols, supported by the emergency response unit and the regional support unit established in September, supplement regular Garda patrols. Patrols are augmented by the deployment of personnel from outside the division as required. There are 27 gardaí on mountain bikes in Limerick. There is no greater concentration of such gardaí except in Dublin and Cork. The Garda Síochána continues to undertake a range of investigations and operations to curb organised criminal activity in the general Limerick area, concentrating on depriving the criminals of the profits of their criminality. This includes activity by local detective units in conjunction with locally based divisional asset profilers and the Criminal Assets Bureau. Last May, the Garda Síochána carried out searches of a wide range of premises as part of Operation Platinum, following which the CAB has sought a number of court orders. I am happy to have secured a 20%, €1.5 million, increase in funding for the CAB for this year.

This level of activity is having results, although, sadly, there are setbacks. To date in 2008 there have been five murders in Limerick, and persons have been charged in respect of two of these. Two of these murders have been by firearms and a person has been charged in respect of one of these. In the State as a whole, there were 18 murders in 2007 involving a firearm, compared with 27 in 2006, a reduction of 33%.

The Garda Síochána will continue to receive a significant level of resources. Thus, while a ring-fenced allocation of €20 million was provided this year for Operation Anvil, in spite of difficult budgetary circumstances, €21 million is being provided in the 2009 Estimates to enable the operation to continue with targeted disruption of serious and organised criminal activity in Limerick and throughout the country. I made it an absolute condition of my Estimate for 2009, even though I have fewer resources, to ring-fence €21 million for Operation Anvil.

There will be a continued increase in the personnel strength of the Garda Síochána. Its attested strength will increase to almost 14,900 by the end of 2009 from its current attested strength of 14,267. This will mean an increase of more than 1,100, 8%, over this year and next year. There are 1,100 recruits in training, and 400 new recruits will be taken on in 2009. These numbers will increase significantly the policing hours available to in excess of 1 million. While there will be a planned reduction in the overtime budget from €108 million in 2008 to €80 million in 2009, this will be more than offset by the increase in numbers. Civilianisation is also making significant strides. In the past 21 months, the number of civilians employed by the Garda Síochána has increased by 59% to 2,038, including an increase of 20% in 2008 to date.

Just as important as the resources available to the Garda Síochána is the effectiveness of the legal powers available to the force and the treatment which criminals can expect from the criminal justice system. There have been some assertions and suggestions which do not stand up to scrutiny. I say this with due respect. For example, Deputy Flanagan calls for a mandatory minimum murder sentence of 25 years. Our law already provides for a mandatory life sentence for murder. Prisoners serving a life sentence already serve very long sentences. The average sentence for this group has almost doubled. It was an average of 15 years during the years 2006 and 2007, compared with the decade 1975 to 1984 where the average was only 7.7 years.

The Minister is being selective.

It has progressively increased to an average of 15 years.

Over the past two years.

I want to assure the House that prisoners who are considered a risk to the public serve well in excess of the average of 15 years. I assure the House that no one who will come before me will get out before a considerable number of years — well above the average — in regard to murder for organised crime.

They have taken human life.

Life sentence prisoners are reviewed by the Parole Board on a number of occasions before any substantial concessions are recommended. Furthermore, they continue to serve their life sentence even when given extended periods of temporary release and can be returned to prison if they breach their conditions or if they pose a threat to the public. In considering such cases, my approach would not generally differ from that urged by Deputy Flanagan but a change in the law is not necessary.

As regards participation in a criminal organisation, this is already an offence since the introduction of the Criminal Justice Act 2006. Any person who participates in, or contributes to, any activity of a criminal organisation is guilty of an offence. Our law provides for trial without jury. Where it is considered necessary to secure the effective administration of justice, a case can be heard before the Special Criminal Court on the recommendation of the DPP, to whom the power is available.

We have already made clear our intention to proceed with legislation which is intended to provide a clear statutory basis for particular forms of existing Garda surveillance operations and allow for the use of the results of surveillance as evidence, which should be particularly useful in counteracting gangland activities. There is already since 1993 a clear legislative basis for the authorisation of telecommunications intercepts. Heads of a Bill on covert surveillance have been prepared and circulated, and it is my intention it will be submitted to the Government next week with the request for approval to draft a Bill. I am also proceeding with other criminal justice legislation measures, such as allowing for the creation of a DNA database. In circumstances where there is a contraction of Exchequer funding, I was delighted to be able to earmark €18 million for the new DNA database and the new forensic science laboratory to follow on from the legislation we will be bringing forward.

I keep the witness protection programme under constant review and any funding that is necessary for the programme is made available. The Garda Commissioner has reservations about putting the programme on a statutory basis, as had the previous Commissioner. The question of whether the witness protection programme is statutory or otherwise is unlikely to affect the willingness of witnesses to come forward. What we have to recognise is that the willingness or otherwise of witnesses to come forward is dependent on a wider range of factors than simply the level of protection the Garda can offer a witness under the programme, still less whether the programme is statutory. It has to be recognised that in many cases possible witnesses simply do not wish to leave the area where in many cases they have lived all their lives and where their family and friends also live.

Another issue is with regard to the abuse of the right to silence, which Deputy O'Donnell raised. It is already the case — we dealt with this recently in this Chamber — that the law provides that inferences may be drawn at a person's trial from the fact that a person remained silent when asked a question by an investigating garda. Inferences can also be drawn from a failure to account for marks, objects and so forth, and from a failure to account for being at a particular place. In addition, since last year inferences may be drawn from a failure to mention during interview certain facts that are later relied on at trial by the defendant.

As well as a high and unceasing level of front-edge activity, community policing is a very important part of the Garda response and such units have been increased in strength in Limerick. CCTV cameras are now working constantly in most of the major estates in Limerick.

There is now a total of 90 community gardaí in the city. More broadly, Limerick southside and northside regeneration agencies have launched ambitious plans for action on an unparalleled scale to lift the disadvantaged areas of Limerick out of the cycle of disadvantage and despair.

There is no Government funding to tackle crime.

The Limerick City Joint Policing Committee was one of the first to be established and is working well, and gardaí are working closely with the local authority and other members of the committee. The Government is determined to provide the Garda with the resources and legal tools it needs to tackle the challenges of criminality which we saw demonstrated in Limerick last weekend.

On the wider issue, the House will recognise that many significant initiatives have been taken, aimed at the regeneration of communities in Limerick. I would ask all those involved to overcome this dreadful setback and continue their efforts to bring hope to the people of Limerick. We cannot allow the evil deeds of a few to thwart the will of the vast majority.

Army Barracks Closures.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for affording me time to discuss this matter which is of the utmost importance to County Longford, namely, the urgent need for the Minister for Defence to reverse his decision to close Connolly Barracks, Longford, in light of the adverse effects on the economic viability of County Longford which will result from the loss of 180 full-time jobs and approximately 160 reservist positions and the disruption which will be caused by the proposed relocation of Army personnel and their families, who are an integral part of our local community in Longford.

There is one aspect of this closure that bothers me more than anything else. In the presence of Deputy Peter Kelly, the Minister, Deputy Willie O'Dea, gave assurances that the barracks would not be closed and Deputy Kelly vowed on a number of occasions that, as long as he was a Deputy, the barracks would remain open. This strikes me as a double act of the greatest possible hypocrisy — I make no apology for saying so.

Government hypocrisy was also evident when I was barred by the Minister, Deputy O'Dea, from attending a meeting to discuss the future of the barracks, to which he of course invited the two Fianna Fáil representatives for Longford-Westmeath. Such a lack of openness and transparency was rich but not unexpected coming from a Minister who last December attacked the tribunal's investigation of the then Taoiseach. It is obvious there is one law for the Minister, Deputy Willie O'Dea, and his pals in Fianna Fáil and another for everybody else. When he gets his own house in order and comes clean on that matter, he can lecture the people of Longford about their barracks, as he tried to do in the past couple of weeks.

The Minister's single-party meeting was held while Army wives protested in great numbers at the gates of Leinster House at his failure to consider their position. Why all the secrecy? What has the Minister to hide? Why was he scared to allow the elected Fine Gael Dáil and Seanad representatives to take part in these important discussions which failed to achieve a reversal of the shameful and ill-thought-out decision to close the barracks? Where were his words of bravado that assured the people of Longford the barracks would not be closed? What exactly are the financial savings made by closing this barracks?

It is unrealistic of the Government not to acknowledge the bigger picture. Furthermore, it is difficult to see how much savings can be achieved, particularly if a site of this size — up to 14 acres — will be put on the open market in the midst of a serious economic downturn. It is my strong belief that the economic savings made by the proposed closure will be minimal and non-cost-effective. This is without taking into account the human and social aspect of the proposal.

Perhaps a buyer has already been found for Connolly Barracks. If there is such a buyer, what plans have been made for the future of this historic premises? Government promises may be cheap to the Minister and easy to break, but when one considers the effects on a whole community, they are inexcusable. The closure of the barracks is the equivalent of the loss of two major industries to the county. The Minister is stripping Longford of its economic prosperity and its unique heritage, and destroying part of our heritage.

This is a savage cutback which will provide little in the way of revenue to the Exchequer given the downturn in the economic return from the sale of such properties, but it will devastate the economy of County Longford. According to PDFORRA, the closure will most likely see an increase in spending to upgrade barracks to accommodate those who are moved as a result of the closure. This is another example of the Government's lack of joined-up thinking. It decentralises and re-centralises on a whim, without full consideration of the consequences.

Connolly Barracks is an integral part of Longford town. It is situated on an historic site going back to 1619 and is at the same time a modern and vibrant working barracks that employs 180 full-time personnel and contributes more than €6 million per annum to the local economy. It was established as a cavalry barracks in the 18th and 19th centuries and was renamed Seán Connolly Barracks in 1922, when Seán Connolly and Seán McEoin drove the British army out of Longford. It took Deputy Peter Kelly and the Minister, Deputy Willie O'Dea, to drive the Irish Army out of Longford barracks in 2008. Why is the Government closing a vibrant working barracks which employs 180 full-time personnel and another 100 plus reservists, all of whom are members of our community and contribute to the viability of shops, hotels, public houses and other business in the area?

I plead with the Minister to reconsider this ill thought-out decision to close the barracks. It is important to a county that has been neglected by successive Fianna Fáil Governments. It has lost industry and jobs such as at Cardinal Health. The Government closed the courthouse in Granard. It nearly got its way in closing the courthouse in Longford town but for a Fine Gael motion at the county council which saved it. Will the Minister ask at Cabinet for this decision to be reversed? It will have a devastating effect on the entire community.

Thank you Deputy. I call on the Minister to respond.

I am disappointed that Deputies Mary O'Rourke and Peter Kelly who attended the recent meeting about the barracks are not in the Chamber tonight.

The Deputy is well over his time.

I would have hoped they would have supported my calls on behalf of the people of Longford in this matter.

I am taking this Adjournment matter on behalf of the Minister for Defence, Deputy Willie O'Dea.

The consolidation of the Defence Forces formations into a smaller number of locations is a key objective of the White Paper on Defence 2000. The dispersal of personnel over an extended number of locations is an impediment to essential collective training. It also imposes increased and unnecessary overheads on the Defence Forces in barrack management, administration, maintenance and security.

The consolidation process is designed to facilitate higher training standards, while also freeing up under-utilised resources and personnel for operational duties. The funding previously realised from the disposal of surplus barracks and properties has, together with pay savings——

What savings? How much will be saved?

Deputy Bannon, please.

——provided some of the resources required for infrastructure, training area development and equipment procurement. In this regard, the White Paper stated "the thrust of the Government decisions in the White Paper is based on their recognition of the necessity to enhance the equipment and infrastructure available to the Defence Forces". These barrack closures move the Government closer to achieving the vision of the Defence Forces set out in the White Paper.

While the closure of barracks and the sale of the properties have provided funding for investment, it was never the driving factor for the consolidation of defence infrastructure. The White Paper acknowledged the current spread of barracks gave rise to significant inefficiencies in manning and organisation that needed to be addressed.

Will the Minister furnish us with the figures for the savings made? No one on the Government side has told us what they are. What are the savings?

Deputy, please.

Moreover, as has been pointed out in many independent reports on the Defence Forces, the primary driver for barrack organisation and personnel deployment is the efficient and effective delivery of military capabilities.

As the Minister for Defence has said in response to many questions in the House, Defence Forces properties are kept under constant review in terms of addressing Defence Forces requirements and ensuring its most appropriate organisation, taking account of operational requirements.

The current plan has been put together in close consultation and co-operation with the Defence Forces general staff. It provides an overall package that will serve the needs of the Defence Forces into the future. The development and increased capability of the modern Defence Forces, when taken together with the improved security situation along the Border, has removed the rationale for having seven Border barracks and posts and provided this opportunity for consolidation of units in a smaller number of locations.

Connolly Barracks, Longford, consists of 14 acres of land in the centre of the town and has 130 military personnel and eight civilian personnel. The barrack was reopened specifically to provide for the requirement for Border security duties due to the Northern situation.

It was always open.

With the Good Friday dispensation and the welcome regularising of the security situation, the operational requirement to have troops deployed so widely in seven military posts along the Border no longer exists.

On the northern side of the Border, the chain of British military bases has already been removed. Closing the four smaller Border posts, including Connolly Barracks, Longford, and consolidating them into the existing larger units will provide a major benefit in terms of efficiency and effectiveness in Defence Forces formations and training.

The need to consolidate the Defence Forces has been signalled for many years. While Defence Forces personnel are understandably saddened by the closure of Connolly Barracks, they also understand the need for this action and know the benefits in military training and development to which the consolidation will give rise.

The military authorities have assured the Minister for Defence a range of available accommodation and facilities are in place and that any additional arrangements required will be in place by the time personnel will have to transfer to their new locations. A process of advising and assisting personnel moving to new locations is already in train. The military authorities advised staff on the details of the proposals on the day after the budget. The Army Chief of Staff has visited each of the barracks concerned to meet the personnel. Any staff concerns arising can be put forward through partnership and representative arrangements. The Minister has asked me to assure the House that any issues arising for both civilian and military personnel will be addressed in an appropriate manner.

Regarding Deputy Bannon's argument on the impact on the local economy, it is important to stress there will be no job losses. All the existing military and civilian personnel based in Connolly Barracks will continue to hold their jobs. The Minister and the Department of Defence do not expect any major negative economic impact on the local communities.

That is wishful thinking.

This is because most of the personnel serving in these installations live in the areas and will, based on previous experience with barrack closures, continue to do so, thereby minimising the impact.

The Minister accepts this was not an easy decision and obviously the Government's desire is to limit the adverse impact this relocation will have on personnel. However, the need to consolidate Defence Forces formations in a smaller number of barrack locations has been evident for some time. These proposals are designed to improve the efficiency of the Defence Forces organisation so as they can continue to discharge the roles assigned to them by Government more effectively.

The Dáil adjourned at 10.50 p.m. until 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 12 November 2008.
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