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Dáil Éireann debate -
Thursday, 9 Jul 2009

Vol. 688 No. 1

Local Government (Charges) Bill 2009 [Seanad]: Second Stage.

I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."

I am pleased to open the debate in the Dáil on the Local Government (Charges) Bill 2009. The purpose of the Bill is to give effect to the Government's budgetary decision to introduce an annual charge on non-principal private residences. The Bill sets the charge at €200 and liability for it will fall, in the main, on owners of rental, holiday and vacant properties. This will broaden the revenue base of local authorities. The proceeds of the charge will be paid to, and retained by, local authorities and it will take effect in 2009 and continue to apply in subsequent years. It has been a long time since a new source of local funding has been made available to local authorities. The Indecon review of local government financing recommended that the sources of local government funding should be extended by a contribution in respect of non-principal private residences, and the Bill gives effect to the Government's budgetary decision in this regard. Furthermore, local authorities should not be disproportionately dependent on central Government funding and, for this reason, the importance of the Bill outweighs the level of revenue it will generate. The existing revenue base of local authorities is very narrow by international standards.

There is a now a measure of consensus that our economy, and especially our tax revenues, has been overly reliant on activity in the construction sector. The decline in the yield from transaction taxes such as stamp duty, capital gains and value added tax on property has been a major factor in the imbalance in our public finances which the Government has had to address. The correction has been sharp and painful and more needs to be done. The €200 charge on non-principal residences is one of the measures taken to close the gap between expenditure and revenue but it should be seen as more than simply a measure to raise additional revenue. It is a new type of revenue stream that will generate a stable yield and will not be subject to the volatility associated with the transaction based property taxes.

The Bill is a relatively short and straightforward legislative measure. Essentially, owners of non-principal private residences will be liable to pay to the city or county council an annual charge of €200 in which a relevant property is located. Liability arises each year on a point in time basis. Ownership of a relevant residential property on a specified day, known in the Bill as a liability date, gives rise to the requirement to pay the charge. My colleague, the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, intends to designate 31 July as the liability date for 2009. In subsequent years the liability date will be 31 March and this earlier date will fit somewhat better with the overall annual financial cycle of local authorities.

The charge can be viewed as a type of self-assessment measure because it is for the owners of residential property, in the first instance, to assess whether they are liable to pay it. Given the relatively modest level at which the charge is set, it is very important to minimise the costs associated with its collection. Accordingly, city and county councils will not be required to issue bills or invoices to those persons who own property liable for the charge.

Nonetheless, the basis on which the charge will operate is relatively simple and straightforward, and it is generally easy to understand and administer. I do not anticipate that those persons liable to pay it will be under any confusion on this point and my Department and local authorities will mount an information campaign to advise people of their responsibilities in this regard. In addition to the normal sanctions involving a fine on conviction of an offence, the Bill incorporates a late payment fee which should act as a real incentive to pay the charge by the due date.

From a drafting perspective, the Bill takes as its starting position a universal liability for residential property in respect of the charge. It goes on to exempt certain buildings and owners from this liability. To put it another way, it identifies what is not liable within the totality of residential buildings rather than taking as a starting point buildings and owners that are liable. By far the most important exemption relates to principal private residences. Owner-occupied residences account for 70% of the entire housing stock. The more important of the other exemptions include property which is let directly or indirectly by local authorities or voluntary housing bodies for social housing, property the subject of shared ownership arrangements with local authorities and certain heritage properties. Other exemptions to the charge are provided for persons who, in process of changing house, own two residential properties for a short period, residential properties owned by charities and certain discretionary trusts and a spouse having an interest in a property after a divorce or separation agreement and who does not reside there but the other spouse does.

We had a helpful and constructive debate in the Seanad on the Bill and it is fair to say that most of the discussion revolved around the exemptions from the charge. In the main, Senators advocated additional provisions to exempt more owners and properties from its scope. During the debate, the Minister undertook to table two amendments before this House and to report these back to the Seanad. One of these amendments will exempt a residential property owned by persons who by reason of long-term physical or mental infirmity have to vacate their principal private residence. The other relates to what are sometimes referred to as "granny flats".

The provision of additional exemptions from taxation measures can give rise to a kind of domino effect. Providing an additional exemption from the charge may seem entirely reasonable in itself but can give rise to pressure for more exemptions catering for circumstances different to, but not wholly dissimilar from, the original one. There can be a tendency for an incremental extension of exemptions to a point where the revenue stream from the charge starts to be eroded significantly.

The Government has always taken the view that an annual charge of €200 is a relatively modest one. Against this background, I cannot see that the charge will represent a heavy burden on those required to pay it. This is not to say that there is no case for any exemptions from the charge but simply to make the point that a €200 annual charge is unlikely to be a serious burden for owners of property. The point has been made that the level of the charge may be increased in the future. I do not intend to comment on this except to state that apart from an adjustment for inflation any change in the level of the charge will require primary legislation and cannot be increased without reference to the Oireachtas.

It has been stated that the ideal taxation measure is equitable, simple and robust. The Local Government (Charges) Bill scores well under the criteria of simplicity and robustness. It is simple and cost effective to administer, and it will be simple to understand and comply with. It will generate revenue on a continuing basis and will not be subject to the volatility we have come to associate with transaction based property taxes. In this sense, it is sufficiently robust to cope with varying economic conditions while maintaining a stable yield. It has to be acknowledged that the Bill does not include a valuation-based component, something which would have made the measure very much more complex and difficult to administer and comply with. As against this, I again make the point that the amount of the charge is relatively modest at €200, and should not cause those liable to pay it any great difficulty.

The Bill provides that the charge shall be paid to county and city councils with an estimated annual yield of €40 million. However, census and other data suggest that there may be 400,000 properties in the State liable for the charge. The annual potential yield could, therefore, be higher than estimated at present. However, like any new taxation measure, knowledge of the actual yield will only come with experience of its operation in practice. Given the data sources available, it is likely that, initially at least, collection levels from rental properties, of which there are about 200,000, may be higher than from holiday homes and vacant residential properties.

For reasons of efficiency, the smaller towns and boroughs that are rating authorities — those that levy and collect commercial rates — will not be involved in this exercise. However, they will receive a payment from their parent county council based on the yield from the charge related to properties that are located in the town area. Provision is also made for the costs of collection of these charges to be retained by the parent local authority. This ensures that all local authorities who have revenue raising powers will benefit from the introduction of the charge.

In the event of non-payment of a charge for which a person is liable by a certain date, a late payment fee of €20 will apply for each month or part of a month for which the charge remains unpaid. An unpaid charge and any associated late payment fee will be a charge against the property in respect of which the liability arose. The rolled-up amount of a late payment fee should not be underestimated, and non-payment of a charge for a period of five years will result in a liability of more than €4,000 when account is taken of the charges and the late payment fees. I want the message to go out as clearly as possible to those who are liable to pay the charge that it will be much simpler and much less expensive to pay the charge when it falls due rather than to attempt to evade it, especially in terms of resale of the property concerned.

Where a property liable for the charge is sold, the Bill provides that the new owner of the property will be liable for unpaid charges and late payment fees, and that these will remain a charge against the property for a period of 12 years from the date that they were incurred. This should prove a strong incentive for a purchaser's solicitor to ensure that all outstanding charges are paid before a contract to sell the property is executed. Local authorities will also have power to take prosecutions against owners who fail to discharge their liability to pay the charge. Prosecution will be by way of summary jurisdiction, and a court may impose a fine of up to €2,000.

Local authorities can delegate functions under the Bill to the Local Government Computer Services Board or the Local Government Management Services Board, or both. In practice, the computer services board will design and operate a web-site facilitating electronic payment of the charge and a database to record payments. It is likely that local authorities will delegate functions to the Local Government Computer Services Board on the overall operation and management of a web-site through which the charge can be paid, and a database recording payment of the charge and related matters.

Provision is made for data exchange between local authorities and the Private Residential Tenancies Board, PRTB, the Electricity Supply Board, ESB, and the Revenue Commissioners. This data should assist local authorities to identify properties liable for the charge. The PRTB holds data on rental properties and the ESB's information technology systems can generate data on residential properties where relatively low amounts of electricity are used, something which will indicate the possibility of a holiday or a vacant residential property. The Revenue Commissioners hold data on certain property transactions such as stamp duty, VAT and capital gains taxes.

Payment will be accepted on behalf of any local authority through a web-site designed and constructed by the Local Government Computer Services Board and which is broadly similar to the motor tax on-line system. The revenue accruing will be relayed automatically and at intervals to the bank account of the city or county council in whose area the property is situated. While payment will also be accepted locally in local authority offices, I would ask those concerned to use the website for their own convenience. This will minimise costs associated with the administration and collection of the charge.

Deputies are aware of the significant role which the local government fund has played in financing the local government sector since it was established in 1999. The fund is financed from a combination of an Exchequer contribution and the full proceeds of motor taxation. Total funding for 2009 amounts to €1.46 billion, which represents approximately 30% of local authority current funding. The fund comprises an Exchequer contribution of €417 million and the proceeds of motor tax, which is projected at just over €1 billion this year. In addition, local authorities will retain the full proceeds of the new pension-related deduction, estimated at €80 million in 2009, and the Exchequer contribution to the fund has been reduced to take account of the deduction. The new pension related deduction has, therefore, a neutral impact on local authority finances in 2009.

Local authority current expenditure amounted to €1.8 billion in 1997. This year current expenditure by the local government sector will be of the order of €5 billion. Local authorities were advised of their 2009 general purpose grant allocations in October 2008, which indicated an average reduction of 6.4% over the corresponding 2008 allocations. The general purpose grant allocation from the fund to local authorities for 2009 amounts to €935 million. These allocations have been reviewed in the light of the estimated income from motor tax in 2009 and the Exchequer contribution to the fund for 2009 as set out in the supplementary budget. This has necessitated a further reduction of 3% in individual allocations, and local authorities have been recently notified on the matter.

The €200 charge is estimated to provide some €40 million in income to local authorities. This will more than ameliorate the impact of the reduction of €30 million in general purpose grants to which I have just referred. I hope that local authorities will be proactive in carrying the charge into effect and that the yield from the charge will exceed what I regard as a relatively conservative and prudent budget projection.

A properly resourced local government sector is vital to local democracy but I want to take this opportunity to address another issue that is equally important to the local government sector. As Deputies will be aware, a Green Paper on local government reform has been published and a White Paper will be published after the Government has had an opportunity to consider the report of the Commission on Taxation. The Green Paper addressed a number of issues, including a proper balance of power at local levels between the managers and elected representatives; directly elected mayors; establishing town councils in towns that have displayed significant population growth; quality customer service; and expenditure limits at local elections.

My colleague, the Minister, recently announced that the first election for a mayor for Dublin with a regional mandate will be held during the summer of next year. The election of the Dublin Mayor in 2010 will fulfil, a year ahead of target, a key commitment of the Government's programme. In introducing a directly elected mayor for the region, the Government will be making the most significant change to local democratic leadership in Dublin since the foundation of our current system of local government in the 19th century. Dublin is both a city and a region. A strong, dynamic and sustainable capital is essential to the well-being of the whole nation, not just to the people of the city itself. Experience has shown that strong political leadership can bring a new dynamic to cities and their regions.

The new mayor will be elected by the people of the city and the three surrounding Dublin county councils — that is, the area which constitutes the existing Dublin Regional Authority — and will have the powers to set strategic policy for the region, to co-ordinate across institutional boundaries and to ensure that local activity is in tune with a coherent set of strategic regional policies and plans. A strengthened Dublin Regional Authority, chaired by the mayor, will support and complement the mayor's activities. The introduction of a democratically accountable mayor for Dublin, a position which personifies local government and thereby creates a new connection with the public, will capture the imagination of the people of the city. It should bring about improved strategic planning for the region, better services, greater integration and coherence, the enhanced use of resources, and a stronger local democracy.

Quality customer service is another issue addressed in the Green Paper. The efficient and effective performance of local government is of real importance to our citizens and to the welfare of our local communities. In that context, the transforming public services agenda will build on the local government modernisation programme which has taken place over the past decade or so, but will also represent a step change in regard to progress in this area.

Transforming public services recommends that local government structures should be drawn on to enhance public service delivery. The democratic legitimacy of elected councils is also recognised and should be maximised as a focus for consultation on the delivery of national services locally. The local government sector is a willing and able partner in this agenda and recognises that public sector transformation is an integral part of the solution to Ireland's current economic difficulties. In this regard, greater coherence and synergy between different levels of Government and of the public service are fundamental to more efficient and effective operation. The Department and the local government sector are working closely together to advance broad public service initiatives for a more integrated public service which can achieve better value for money and enhanced customer services.

The Local Government (Charges) Bill is a fairly short and straightforward legislative instrument. The revenue stream to which it will give rise — while not insignificant at some €40 million annually — could not be described as large in the context of overall local government spending. Nonetheless, its importance cannot be measured simply in these terms. The Bill establishes a new funding source for local authorities, one that is genuinely local in that it derives from revenue raised locally and that will be expended for local purposes. By broadening the revenue base of local authorities, the charge can properly be described as a ground-breaking initiative. I hope it will receive a general welcome for that reason.

Arguably, it would serve the interests of local democracy still better if local authority members themselves determined, perhaps within certain limits, the level of the charge, as is the case for commercial rates. There may be scope to devolve other aspects of the charge to local authorities also. These are issues we may well revisit at a future date, and I welcome any views Deputies may have on these matters. I thank Deputies for their co-operation in facilitating early consideration of the Bill and commend it to the House.

I wish to share my time with Deputies Bannon and Deenihan.

Is that agreed? Agreed.

The Bill before the House, the Local Government (Charges) Bill, is probably the most confused legislation brought before the House by the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government since he took office. With no disrespect to the Minister of State, I am disappointed the Minister is not here to explain how he could have put such proposals to the Cabinet some months ago and have made such major mistakes with regard to the application of the charge that he must now amend these mistakes in the Dáil and Seanad. The Minister accused me, the Fine Gael spokesman on the environment, of being mischievous in raising issues relating to the elderly, but now we have amendments before the House in order to put into effect the concerns expressed by Fine Gael.

The disrespect shown by the Government to the people by rushing this important and far-reaching legislation, which creates a precedent with regard to property tax, through the Oireachtas is unacceptable. The decision to rush through a new property tax with only one day's debate is unprecedented in any parliamentary democracy. It seems always to hold true that every time legislation is rushed, mistakes are made. The Minister has made many mistakes in this legislation already and perhaps before the day is out, we will, in the short time available, have teased through some aspects of the Bill and have found other exemptions are required.

Glaring faults were immediately obvious in the Minister's proposals and this Bill is no different. The fact that such a Bill, with little or no thought put into it, can be approved by the Cabinet is very worrying. Fianna Fáil Cabinet Members clearly made no observations or submissions to the Minister on the legislation. The Cabinet has approved the Minister's attempt to put a property tax on the elderly who reside in nursing homes and on those who built granny flats to care for their elderly parents. It even allowed for a tax on mobile homes until it was forced into an immediate U-turn after the Minister got an earful from the Joe Duffy radio show.

The Minister will claim that it was never his intention to levy these taxes on the elderly and carers, yet that is what his legislation set out to do when it was published. How nobody in Government saw the blatant anti-elderly bias in the published version of the Bill is astonishing. One would almost believe that forces at work at the highest level of Government set out to make old people's lives more miserable. Of course, this is untrue.

The truth of the matter is that these ill-thought out provisions are the result of an incompetent Government. These mistakes are the results of its own actions. The Government is complacent and mistakes are made. One would wonder what mistakes will be made on serious legislation such as the implementation of the National Asset Management Agency if mistakes like these are made on such a short Bill.

Besides the attack on the elderly, there are other significant problems with this Bill. The inclusion of Bord Fáilte approved self-catering holiday homes is another example of the Government failing to see the bigger picture. Self-catering holidays are the backbone of the Irish tourism industry. These homes are not simply homes, but businesses. Bord Fáilte registered and listed homes already pay charges in the form of registration fees and other annual business charges to local authorities. The Fine Gael Party leader encouraged people to holiday at home in Ireland this year to keep money in the Irish economy. It is a bizarre display of inconsistency that the Green Party Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, who would be against excessive air travel, is now imposing an additional tax on the indigenous tourism industry. Self-catering homes will have little option but to pass on the cost to their customers, difficult and all as it is to get customers in the current climate.

The Bill is an attempt to address the many problems of local government finance. As such, Fine Gael accepts the principle of putting a charge on second homes, in order to assist local government financing. However, we are opposed to some of the details of the Bill. Many local authorities throughout the country are in significant financial difficulty due to the collapse of the building industry, business rates and development levies. The local authority in my area, Kilkenny County Council, had a €7 million income from development levies in 2008. It budgeted for €3 million in 2009 but the most recent target is €1 million. This is the extent of the difficulties with which local government is faced for the remainder of the year in carrying out much of the planned capital works that require development levy contributions to make them happen.

The Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government's tinkering with the car tax system last year contributed to the almost complete collapse of that industry and the resulting loss of tax for the local authorities. Galway County Council is reportedly losing a €1 million a week. This week, Sligo County Council stated it had no prospect of balancing its budget this year, and I have no doubt the same problems arise in many other local authority areas. Notwithstanding the economic difficulties the country is facing, after two years in office, the policy pursued by the Minister, Deputy Gormley, has contributed to many of the problems that are faced in the financing of local government at present. What will result is a drastically reduced level of service and the elimination of any meaningful impact on the capital programme, particularly for water and waste water services which are urgently needed in the context of meeting our deadlines for the water framework directive in 2015.

What has been the Minister's response to this financial crisis in local government? It is a tax on second homes that was put together without thought and then rushed into the Dáil today. In this time of emergency and crisis, it is not half-hearted measures that will get us through but wholesale reform of local government. The Minister has talked about local government in the context of the Green Paper and he promised we would have a White Paper by the end of 2008. He was not able to take the hard decisions and set out his programme before the local government elections in June of this year. He has talked big but his only real proposal for reform is to have a directly elected mayor of Dublin, on which we do not know the powers or the extent of the remit of the position. He is expecting us to buy and pig in a poke in regard to accepting this proposal without knowing what level of impact and power will apply vis-à-vis the management system in the four local authorities in Dublin and, more importantly, what meaningful impact this position will have on the welfare and well-being of the citizens of Dublin next year.

Any new tax measures for Dublin have been put off until the Commission on Taxation report is published. While I welcome the expected publication of that report in the coming weeks, this new tax to help pay for the failing "business as usual" model is a waste of taxpayers' money. It has been 15 months since the Government published the Green Paper and, although we want to see action on local government reform, we want a comprehensive White Paper published sooner rather than later because we are already seven months behind schedule.

What local government in Ireland, not just Dublin, needs is dramatic reform. Fine Gael has painstakingly set out its local government reform programme whereby we want to bring all of the various agencies in a locality together under the accountable remit of local government. Too many agencies are operating at arm's length from the State in local areas without any proper mandate at local government level. These are the kind of agencies that could make a meaningful impact in creating employment in many of our urban and rural areas if they were at the coalface of interaction, where they should be.

The Minister of State, Deputy Finneran, who was a member of a local authority, will appreciate that over the years there has been a massive centralisation of power in the hands of the Executive and central Government at the expense of local government. I do not agree with this and believe we need a programme of devolution that will give a meaningful role to the local councils. The only way this can be done is to devolve functions and responsibilities, and co-ordinate all of the agencies that are operating from various Departments through the local government system.

This new tax is supposed to raise €40 million but it has no hope of raising that sum in 2009. To begin with, we do not know the extent of the information that is available at local government level and we are relying on the Private Residential Tenancies Board, the Revenue Commissioners and the ESB. The Revenue is probably the body best equipped to know what is the registration of each property and it has the necessary powers and remit to be able to get that information. It could then transfer funds to the local government system. I do not accept the local government system will be up and running as quickly as the Minister anticipates in order to collect this amount of money in the current year. Instead of compensating for the €30 million reduction in the funding of the local government that was recently announced, we will make a bad situation worse in terms of the funding deficit at the end of the year. I put forward an amendment which suggests that the Revenue Commissioners should collect this tax in the first instance and until such time as the local government system is able to cope administratively with new taxation.

Fine Gael has published the details of its local government programme and the Minister should take them on board in order to ensure there is a vision for local government. We are often accused by Government of not coming forward with constructive suggestions as to how we could deal with many of the problems in different areas, although we on the Opposition side do this regularly. The document I have given to the Minister for his perusal is another example but the only response is that we are told to await the outcome of another report. It is time for action because the country cannot afford inaction. It is widely expected there will be difficulties in the next budget and that there will be a need for reform in all areas, so why not start now by ensuring we have a meaningful local government structure? We should not delay in issuing the White Paper for local government, including in regard to financing, on which difficult decisions will have to be made.

In the meantime, there are programmes which require serious expenditure, such as the water services programme, on which the Minister has set out his stall and boasted of the extra money he has received in order to make the biggest single investment in water services in the history of the State. Now, however, because of the reduction in development levies at local authority level, we will not be able to start many of the anticipated projects this year. How will we achieve our objectives in regard to meeting the water services framework directive as drawn up by the European Commission by 2015 if there is no serious attempt to make the necessary investments in water and waste water services? If we do not do this, we will have to pay fines to the Commission which, as everybody would agree, is a waste of time.

In principle, I have no difficulty with charging a modest fee for second homes. We believe a service charge is required for provision of second homes in local authority areas. However, as one can see from the research, this will mean different things in terms of funding for different parts of the country. It will be welcome for some areas, particularly Dublin and the west coast, but the midlands will suffer disproportionately due to inactivity on the second home and holiday home front.

It is not appropriate that the self catering businesses which are approved by Fáilte Ireland, many of the them in the Minister of State's, area near the River Shannon, should be included as part of the process of levying the €200. With the best intentions and all the assurances in the world that this €200 charge will remain €200, we all know that once a charge is introduced, it does not always work out that way. At a time when we have many demands on programmes and demands by the Exchequer and the Minister for Finance for additional resources, the €200 could very quickly become €400 or even €500.

The principle has been accepted but the exemptions are important to ensure we do not penalise people who, through no fault of their own, have made investments and are paying tax in other ways and paying contributions through the local government system, including elderly people who live in the same area as their families. How the Minister could not see that this should be included in the exemptions is beyond me. I encountered another case today involving a 90 year old lady who has two family members living in apartments at the rear and the side of her house. Since the property is in her name the house and the two apartments at the side and rear will be liable for the €200 charge. These are unforeseen circumstances with which the Minister of State should be able to deal. The two family members are helping out to ensure the elderly parent can stay in the general vicinity of the family home rather than institutionalised care. These are the anomalies we must address in the legislation and I trust the Minister of State is open enough to deal with the matter as quickly as possible.

I welcome the principle of the Bill as Deputy Hogan has done. It has major implications for a county such as Kerry which has a very substantial dependency on tourism. According to the 2006 census there is a possibility of earning up to €4 million in the county through the charge on tourist accommodation. In the overview presented by the Oireachtas Library and Research Service, it was suggested that because of the amount of rental accommodation Dublin City Council could earn up to €14 million. Vast revenue earning opportunities exist for local authorities. Local authorities set rates and water charges. Although it is not contained in the Bill, would it be possible for local authorities to set their own charges on property? That may be a matter for the future but it is at least a possibility that local authorities could set their own charges depending on the conditions and the demands of a certain area.

I acknowledge the Minister has accepted some amendments. However I make a special case for the self-catering tourism sector, a very important part of tourism in counties such as Kerry with which I am familiar. I refer to a particular case, that of a person I visited last week. The man in question is concerned about this Bill and the imposition of the €200 tax. He pointed out that he already pays high registration fees to Fáilte Ireland, VAT on rental moneys received and his water is metered by the local council. He is required to have a BER, building energy rating, certificate. He advertises in self-catering magazines, marketing brochures and through web and printed media. He employs contract cleaners and facilities for visiting tourists which I saw including playgrounds, saunas and an indoor hot tub. The proposed charge will be another imposition.

Deputy Hogan has tabled an amendment which would exempt self-catering accommodation from this charge and I urge the Minister to consider it. The Fáilte Ireland survey of 2008 indicated that tourists in the self-catering sector add approximately €1 billion to local economies throughout the country. There are self-catering units throughout the country, including the midlands, and they are a very important vehicle for rural development. They provide very good value and bring tourists to areas they would not normally visit. My concern is the imposition of this charge together with the imposition of all other charges may encourage some of those involved to leave the business entirely. I realise it is only €200 but it may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. It might create a very negative reaction by some of those involved. The number of Fáilte Ireland registered and approved self-catering homes has been in sharp decline in the past two years. The exemption need not apply to every self-catering enterprise, only those which are registered. I wish to focus on this issue and I hope the Minister of State is listening to me. Such a measure would have two effects. It would encourage people to register and, as a result, there would be a higher quality product.

The charge does not apply to anyone paying commercial rates anyway.

Those who have self-catering units pay——

Not everyone pays commercial rates. It is a matter for the local authority.

I refer to those registered with Fáilte Ireland. The Minister of State and his official may wish to clarify the matter. The impression of the individual with whom I spoke, a very credible operator who does a very good job, is that he will be liable for the tax. This should be clarified.

Clearly the person is not paying commercial rates.

No, but he pays water rates. He is not paying commercial rates but he is registered with Fáilte Ireland. If the charge is introduced people will drop their registration with Fáilte Ireland, simply pay the €200 charge and this will lower the standard with which they must comply. I wish to focus on that issue and I hope the Minister of State will consider the matter seriously. It will be discussed on Committee Stage and I will have another opportunity to examine the matter then, but an exemption should apply to those registered with Fáilte Ireland. It would encourage people to register with Fáilte Ireland and raise standards.

This is extraordinarily disturbing legislation. Shockingly, one of its main thrusts seems to be yet another attack on the elderly. What appears on the surface to be legislation to impose a charge on second and holiday homes follows a pattern set by this heartless Government in its quest to restore the public coffers, which it criminally squandered in the first place. The Government is attempting to find any method possible to squeeze every last cent from those who deserve respect and comfort in their old age, not an assault on their purses.

I call on the Minister of State, who comes from my area——

This is nothing to do with the elderly.

——to close his eyes, not in the 40 winks manner described by my colleague, Deputy Lee, but to allow a mental image to form. I call on the Minister of State to imagine the lifestyles of the majority of our elderly citizens who are forced into nursing home care. The Minister of State should contrast that with the picture of the lavish lifestyles of our bankers, higher paid civil servants and the Galway tent brigade. Does it not disturb the Minister of State to dwell on these mental images? It should do so since he comes from a rural part of the country.

Even with my eyes firmly open, it is a contrast too great for me to bear. The elderly and vulnerable are usually extremely reluctant to leave their family home and go into institutionalised care.

This is nothing to do with the elderly.

The only thing that makes this more bearable is the thought that they might perhaps at some stage return home. It seems the Minister of State is now cruelly telling them that their home is not their home, that the nursing centre is their primary dwelling and their family home is merely a second home. This is in addition to 80% of their income due to go on care costs and 15% of the value of what the Government is, in certain circumstances, pleased to acknowledge as their primary residence, to be taken after their death. This, combined with the withdrawal of 20,000 medical cards from the over-70s, is a shameful record for this Government. It is appalling that legislation can be drafted which leads to a perception such as this, even if the action was never intended. The stress caused to the elderly at a time when they have earned a peaceful retirement is inexcusable, regardless of whether it is the Minister of State's actual intent to impose this charge.

The intention to include granny flats in the levy is equally disturbing. What Government would acknowledge the kindness of a person, who is prepared to give over a part of his or her property to accommodating an elderly relation, by imposing a €200 levy as a reward? Only one word springs to mind for such an action and that is "cruel".

Everybody knows they are not liable.

The Minister of State's constituents will meet him on the doorsteps on this one at the next general election and I hope that election comes soon.

The Deputy knows they are not liable. He is putting inaccurate information on the record of the House.

It is particularly puzzling when one considers the benefit to the State of having the burden of the provision of care removed. I am particularly concerned that this levy is being debated at this point when residential property tax and domestic service charges are being mooted. If these are imposed, will the elderly person in the nursing home then end up paying a treble tax on the house that is not being regarded as a primary residence, but rather a second home for the purpose of this legislation? This will in all probability become a residence for the purpose of the residential tax. The law may be an ass, but it is in the ha'penny place compared to the actions of the Government.

If one considers the rapid rise of the so-called registration fee for third level colleges which will amount of €1,500 this September, the introduction of a €200 levy, while unacceptable in the short term, has far more worrying long-term implications. The Government has a worrying record of stealth taxes, which is what this levy is. It is an attempt to make good the shortfall in funding for local authorities at the expense of the middle income earners, who as always will be hardest hit. Those who raised a mortgage to buy a place in the country, as opposed to a mobile home or a villa abroad, as a means of saving have invested heavily in the area into which they bought and they pay tax on the income if they rent the property.

The Government actively encouraged people to buy rural properties. Does the Minister of State, Deputy Michael Finneran, not realise that the countryside is awash with unsold properties? This is particularly evident in my own county of Longford and also in County Roscommon. These properties are becoming derelict and will soon be a blot on the landscape. This is the result of the sham Government schemes which have led to the destruction of the countryside, particularly our small villages. Many of the developers responsible for the rash of now unsold or unfinished estates were in bed with the Galway tent guys. Second-home buyers who fell for the Government spin are now being rewarded by the imposition of this levy. Ironically, if they had merely bought a mobile home they would be exempt. This is a farce as some mobile homes are worth far more than small rural properties and yet, due to public outcry, they will be exempt from taxation. The public are flexing their muscles as they realise that the louder they shout, the easier it is to get the Government to do a U-turn. This happened on Joe Duffy's show only two weeks' ago.

There is a bit of a show on here as well.

As the Government has cut over 3% annual funding from local authorities, it sees second-home owners as the fall guys to take the hit and make good the deficit. I realise the position is extremely difficult for many local authorities with the picture becoming increasingly one of debt and rapidly rising bills.

Another area I would like to see the Minister of State reconsider is the imposition of the levy on the owners of rented properties.

The Deputy has only half a minute left.

In the interest of fairness, this charge should be levied at least equally between the owner and the tenant. The tenant has absolute rights over the rented property and the services provided and, therefore, the tenant should be responsible for payment of at least a percentage of the charge.

Thank you very much, Deputy Bannon. I am afraid the Deputy has used his time.

There is huge anger being voiced right across the midlands. It would be wrong of me, as a public representative from a rural constituency, to let this go.

I call Deputy Ciarán Lynch.

There is huge anger being voiced by the farming community.

I think the Deputy has had enough time.

It is the keening at the wake for our national industry, put to death by this Fianna Fáil-Green Party Government ——

What section of the Bill is that?

This legislation is another example of the lack of joined-up thinking which is graphically highlighted by the Fianna Fáil-Green Party Government on a daily basis.

I ask Deputy Bannon to have a little respect for the Chair, please.

Shame on the Minister of State.

I wish to share my speaking time with Deputies Joanna Tuffy and Martin Ferris.

Listening this afternoon to the Minister of State's contribution on Second Stage, to Deputy Phil Hogan and to the Joe Duffy show last week, one would have a certain degree of trepidation as to what will happen here in the House this afternoon. There is a significant difference between what is a good idea and what is good government. We have witnessed this in a number of proposals from the Minister, Deputy John Gormley's Department to date. It was proposed that self-detonating a nuclear device in Ireland would become an illegal act and it would incur a fine of €5,000 if a nuclear bomb was set off in the State. This is one of the proposals coming from the Minister.

Not so humorously, last year, the method for VRT registrations was changed. This had a significant and very damaging impact on the motor vehicle trade. Everybody knows that people buy their cars at the start of the year. The introduction of a change in the taxation regime in the middle of the summer had a direct impact on the sequencing and purchasing of new cars. There is a direct correlation between the Government's policy on VRT and the situation in the motor trade. The Government policy is not entirely to blame but it came at the beginning of a difficult period for the motor industry and there is no doubt that the figures in that year relate to the management of the VRT taxation system.

Last week, along with other Members of this House and people right across the country, I listened to the Joe Duffy show. This was legislation carried out on the airwaves. The Minister's intention does not seem clear. The Bill in its initial draft was specific with regard to mobile homes. This was not a misinterpretation or some ambiguous reading or misreading of the Bill. It was a stated fact that mobile homes would be included as part of this new charge. I await the Minister's reply this evening. What is the intention behind this charge? Is it a second property tax? If so, is it a form of indirect taxation? If it is taxation, questions must be asked about its equity and fairness.

I dispute Deputy Bannon's argument. A mobile home depreciates in value from the moment of purchase and will never appreciate in value because it is six sheets of aluminium or steel which will depreciate over a period of time. Regardless of how bad the property market is now, a small property will always appreciate over the long term. One is not comparing like with like. Properties, by definition, have a leasehold or some form of deed of title.

Debate adjourned.
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