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Dáil Éireann debate -
Tuesday, 20 Nov 2012

Vol. 783 No. 2

Topical Issue Debate

Ash Dieback Threat

I am thankful for the opportunity to speak to this very important issue. There has been much coverage in the news, both here and in the UK, about the emergence of a disease that is fatal to the ash tree. Ash dieback disease is known to kill 90% of the trees it infects. I know the Minister of State, Deputy McEntee, has done much good work around this issue so I do not wish to detract from that.

In Ireland there is a 90% sufficiency in native ash plants but we must import 10% of ash plants from abroad, and it is from these imported sources that the greatest risk to our native ash population exists. We must become 100% self-sufficient in the area. We have the capacity to orchestrate a horticultural programme to provide an import substitution with our native ash species. Another vital objective is the need to reduce the spread of this disease and protect the native trees, and we must build resilience in our natural forestry, encouraging everybody involved - farmer, landowner and industry professionals - to come together to protect what we have.

If we can slow its spread and minimise its impact, we will gain valuable time to find and isolate the native trees that have genetic resistance to the disease and restructure our valuable woodlands accordingly. However, in order to do this we must know where we currently stand in the fight against ash dieback. Perhaps the Minister of State will outline the current stage of the disease and if it has been found in mature trees as well as saplings.

Advice from scientists points to more difficulty in eradicating the disease if it is caught in older trees but this should not point to an end of the ash tree population. There is much evidence from Sweden of dealing with the disease, particularly through using genetics. Could we harvest our native wild ash and build up a database so that if we get into difficulty in future, we could call that database? The seed database exists in County Clare. The Minister of State might understand that as I come from Kilkenny, it is a major worry.

I very much share the concerns of my colleague. We may have fewer all-Ireland titles in Clare than in Kilkenny but we make many more hurleys. I do not know what that says about our hurling style or efficiency.

The Deputy's county has fewer all-Ireland titles than us as well.

Keep making them.

I hope we will continue to use them in matches with Kilkenny. As so many hurleys are made in Clare, it is an important source of revenue and employment. Deputy Phelan mentioned that there is a Seed Savers in Scarriff, my own parish. As Deputy Phelan brought it up I do not feel embarrassed about mentioning it. The Minister of State, Deputy McEntee, visited it with me and I very much encourage that work, particularly with the current threat to our ash plants.

One hurley maker in Clare employs six people and makes between 60,000 to 70,000 hurleys per year. There are several other hurley makers across County Clare from Tuamgraney, Ogonnelloe, Broadford, Kilmurry, Kilkishen and Tubber. As the Minister of State will know from his relatively recent visit to Clare, there is not a hedgerow in east or mid Clare which does not feature the beautiful silver bark of ash trees. I am very concerned about the threat posed by ash dieback and would like to hear how the Minister of State proposes to deal with the threat. It is both a threat to our biodiversity and employment in County Clare.

I thank the Deputies for raising this matter. No adult trees currently have the problem. The work we started in the past two weeks will continue for the next month or six weeks and will determine how we save Irish ash trees and become self-sufficient in ash by 2020. Much hard work lies ahead and members of the public, the National Roads Authority, the Irish Farmers Association and those who operate the agri-environment options and rural environment protection schemes, AEOS and REPS, have an important role to play in this regard. Of the utmost importance is the co-operation taking place between my Department and the Department of Agriculture and Rural Development in the North, which is headed by the Sinn Féin Minister, Ms Michelle O'Neill, MLA. The plant issue will be addressed on an all-island basis and both I and my Northern counterpart have given a commitment to act together. We need to take action now because the danger presented by Chalara fraxinea, also known as ash dieback disease, is much greater in June and July when spores spread. Last week, acting on instructions from the Department, inspectors commenced a process of inspecting every imported ash tree. The Department's traceability systems mean we have the capacity to identify the location of nearly every ash tree imported under the AEOS or REPS. My officials had a good meeting with representatives of the Irish Farmers Association this morning and on Thursday representatives of the National Roads Authority will provide us with information on where it has planted ash.

We know what must be done and it is our intention to ensure that every ash tree imported since 2007 is accounted for. Those plants for which records cannot be provided will be destroyed. The Department is carrying out tests and inspections are taking place.

I now propose to provide the official reply. I thank the Deputies for raising this important matter. Chalara fraxinea poses a major threat to ash plantations throughout the island and those forest industries which rely on the ash species for their business, most notably, the hurley making sector. With 3% of the national estate under ash and 10% of all new planting made of ash species, my Department took swift action to address this threat. I assure the House that it is doing everything possible to protect one of our most important native species. Chalara fraxinea has spread rapidly across much of Europe, with the majority of European countries where ash is present reporting dieback. Since 2008, the Department's forestry inspectorate staff have been carrying out surveys to monitor and determine the disease's status in Ireland.

Ash plants and wood with bark imported from countries where the disease is known to occur constitute the most likely source of infection in this country. Approximately 200,000 ash plants and 1,600 cu. m of roundwood ash for hurley manufacture are imported per annum. My Department confirmed the finding of the disease at sites in counties Leitrim, Galway, Tipperary and Meath, all of which come from one consignment of ash plants. The Department responded by cutting and burning the entire batch last month. We are aware of the possibility that other consignments of infected material could have made their way into the country and departmental officials are currently carrying out an extensive nationwide survey of forests planted with imported ash. Legislation was also introduced to deal with the threat of further occurrences of the disease from imported material. On 26 October legal measures were introduced to prohibit the importation of plant material from ash dieback infected areas. These measures, which were introduced by ministerial order, took effect immediately. Until that point, a voluntary import moratorium had been in place by forest nurseries. Further legislation, which took effect on 6 November, restricts ash wood movement.

On the supply of ash wood for hurley making, it is estimated that 2,100 cu. m of ash wood is required per annum. This equates to approximately 360,000 hurleys. Coillte, the State forestry board, supplies roughly 400 cu. m of this material, while the private sector provides a further 100 cu. m. The remainder, amounting to 1,600 cu. m is imported. In terms of output, hurley making is worth between €6 million and €8 million per annum to the economy and it is clear that supply is a major concern for them. To help alleviate any potential supply problems, my Department has been in contact with Coillte, which has agreed to bring forward harvesting schedules for ash. It will also work with its counterpart in the United Kingdom with a view to securing additional supply. Incidentally, the Deputies opposite need not be concerned that County Meath will take any hurling crowns.

On the specific questions regarding the establishment of a DNA database for indigenous ash plants, Ireland has begun to collect some information on forest genetic resources as part of its national forestry surveys. It is intended that gene conservation strategies and programmes for specific tree species will be further developed. In this regard, a gene conservation strategy for ash has been introduced. However, we must be mindful of the risk of this disease becoming established in Ireland and consider the development of breeding programmes for Chalara fraxinea resistant Irish ash trees. While we do not know what level of resistance Irish ash will have to the disease, experience from countries where the disease has been identified suggests there is some natural resistance in some ash trees. Breeding programmes, therefore, have the potential to improve species' resistance. We must think ahead and try to future proof our ash plantations from this disease.

I assure forest owners who have been directly affected by Chalara fraxinea that the Department will continue to provide the technical support necessary until the matter has been fully resolved. Department officials are also examining the options available in terms of re-establishing the affected plantations and restoring them to their condition prior to the confirmation of the presence of Chalara fraxinea. I intend to closely monitor the position and take whatever steps or measures are necessary to protect this important species.

Every member of the general public will be asked to co-operate in our efforts. We intend to have identified within ten days the location of every imported ash plant. This will be achieved with the assistance of the farming community, National Roads Authority and forestry section of the Department. We have much work to do and, as I noted, the next three months will be crucial.

I thank the Minister of State for his comprehensive reply. I am pleased to learn that we will be self-sufficient in ash by 2020. The idea that it will be necessary to use plastic hurleys in Croke Park is repugnant. However, we may still be able to beat the opposition, even with plastic hurleys.

I was contacted by a concerned constituent who owns a sizeable ash plantation of 46 acres. Planted in 1992, it has been described by Teagasc as one of the largest broadleaf forests in the country. Are plans in place to compensate such farmers in the event that it becomes necessary to destroy their forests?

It is clear from the figures cited by the Minister of State that more than one quarter of the hurleys manufactured here are made in County Clare. This issue is, therefore, a source of considerable concern for hurley makers.

They must be sending them to County Kilkenny.

We are certainly not sending many to County Mayo.

We do not want their diseases.

I played hurling reasonably well and would have a game with the Deputy if he wishes.

While the country should be self-sufficient in ash by 2020, hurley makers will have to import ash in the meantime. I understand from the regulations introduced by the Minister on 7 November that any imported ash will have to be squared so as to remove entirely the rounded surface or be free of bark and have a water content of less than 20%. These requirements will impose considerable additional costs on hurley makers who will have to be given a subsidy if they are to avoid imposing these costs on consumers, that is, young boys and girls who play hurling and camogie. Deputy Ann Phelan asked whether a subsidy will be made available for ash growers. Will a subsidy be made available to hurley makers to avoid them passing on additional costs to consumers?

Bark is one of the means of spreading ash dieback disease. Firewood, much of which is imported, is not subject to the same level of documentation as ash plants imported for the purposes of making hurleys. Ash could be present in a large bundle of mixed woods, for example, or ash residue could be present at the bottom of a shipment of firewood. How will this matter be monitored at ports of entry? I commend the Minister on taking an all-Ireland approach to the problem.

I will respond to the questions in reverse order. The importation of timber for firewood is being dealt with at the ports. Last year, permission to unload a full shipment of firewood was refused and we required a supermarket to withdraw from its shelves material on which bark was present.

The same will apply to all supermarkets, stations and even people selling from the back of lorries. We have the manpower at the ports.

Regarding compensation, everything to date has been done voluntarily by farmers, growers and foresters. Those who supplied the plants have committed to reimbursing people with a different species. Ash will not be replanted on land that has been infected. Currently, there is no compensation. We will not wipe out any plantation unnecessarily and we will continue to pay the premiums to the ten sites in question. We will also pay for a new planting programme.

We met the hurley makers last week and will do so again. Since they are coming under pressure, counties Kilkenny and Clare might also be put under pressure.

Off the field.

The movement of ash is coming to a halt, but we have not discussed compensation. We are consulting the GAA. If everything works out and everyone does his or her bit, there will have been no mention of compensation by next March.

Local Government Reform

I thank the Ceann Comhairle's office for allowing me this time. The pair of recently published reports on local government reform and alignment are only policy documents. While they appear to be Government policy, they are not yet legislation. Given the fact that local government reform is urgently required, it is strange and even farcical that the two distinct processes of reform and alignment are proposed to be implemented in the same timeframe. Surely local government reform is necessary before local government can even begin to take on a different role.

Both reports acknowledge that city and county councils may find themselves short of the skills required to assume an enhanced role in the co-ordination and oversight of local and community development programmes. This is the third attempt by civil servants to move the development and delivery of local services and programmes away from the community and voluntary sector. There were county strategy groups in the 1990s, county development boards, CDBs, in the 2000s and a new quango, socio-economic committees, SECs, is proposed for the 2010s.

Disjointed thinking is manifest in the reports. While the report on alignment recognises that the CDB is not the appropriate vehicle for the alignment of local government and local development in line with the report's recommendations, no clarification is given as to why the CDBs did not work and, therefore, why the SECs should or could work. Maybe we should not be surprised with the approach's inconsistencies, as no local development people or, most importantly, volunteer members of the boards were on the steering committee that completed the report. I wonder whether any of the committee's members volunteer in their communities.

In terms of the local community and rural development sector, the alignment addresses a number of issues, first of which is effectiveness and efficiency. EU reports consider the Irish model to be the best in Europe. The second issue is democracy and insufficient local authority engagement or oversight. The report implies that there is no future role for community involvement in local democracy, yet local authority officials and councillors are on the boards. The local development sector values its interaction with local, national and international politicians in supporting local communities or families with business ideas, employment issues, community issues, etc.

The third issue is accountability. Local development companies are answerable locally to their boards of directors and nationally to the Departments and the EU. The Leader programme has seven layers of inspections. The fourth point relates to bureaucracy. Although it is not locally imposed or EU-advised, the Department's interpretation of EU rules is restrictive. The proposals have a number of good aspects, for example, countywide planning, which should help all communities and agencies, and the recommendation on improved interdepartmental work. Some Departments, such as the Department of Social Protection, have not been kept fully informed of developments or made an input into the documents even though they are significant stakeholders in the local development companies.

The reports imply that the new local enterprise offices, LEOs, will be responsible for all enterprise funding. Currently, local development companies deliver a significant range of enterprise supports, including Leader, mentoring and grants. The local and community development programme, LCDP, supports area enterprises, allowances, Skillnets, etc. Per the 2011 LCDP progress report, more than 5,000 business start-ups were supported by local development companies last year. Therefore, alignment would not assist enterprise. Rather, it would hinder it, as local development companies have a reputation for and experience of working with people from the ground up, particularly in rural areas.

I thank the Deputy for raising this important matter. The local government document that I recently published set out a range of reforms that would place local government at the heart of economic, social and community development. This includes facilitating enhanced alignment between local government and local and community development programmes and functions. Greater alignment is primarily about giving the citizen a better deal and providing better services for our communities in the most cost effective and efficient manner possible.

I established the steering group to study this issue. Its report acknowledged the key strengths of the local development sector, including the sector's closeness to the citizen and communities, its track record of leading social inclusion and local and community development initiatives, and the local knowledge and expertise built up by local development bodies in service planning and delivery.

The steering group also recognised that there were certain limitations to the local development model. For example, there can be a considerable administrative burden, there is a potential for duplication and overlap because of the complexity of the local development landscape, there are many different funding and reporting arrangements, and demands and hidden costs are associated with the requirement on various stakeholders to participate in multiple boards and structures at local level.

I am confident that the introduction of SECs in each local authority area, as proposed by the steering group and approved by the Government, will bring coherence to the range of local and community development interventions at local level. In the long term, these committees will assume oversight and planning responsibility for all local and community development actions. They will ensure a joined-up, cross-government, cross-sectoral approach locally with benefits for local and community development programming that the city and county enterprise boards, CEBs, have been unable to achieve.

With the phasing out of CEBs and a more central role for local government in local and community development, local authority staff will assume greater responsibility for the oversight and co-ordination of local and community development activity. These changes will free up local development bodies and their staff to concentrate on front-line service delivery. We need a greater focus in this regard and more sustainable programme administration costs to ensure that the local and community development structures that are in place are viable in the long run. The new arrangements that we are introducing will achieve this.

I have no intention of introducing arrangements that would be detrimental to Ireland's local development model. We have a strong record of delivering local and community development interventions and we want to consolidate that record on behalf of communities, not damage our standing in this regard.

With all due respect, the Minister's reputation for doing the right thing by certain sectors of society is questionable. He is doing away with fine, hard-working town councillors the length and breadth of this country who have served their communities well. Many are in his party. They will remember him well for what he has done to them.

I am quaking in my boots.

The Minister will be our next European Commissioner. He will not care.

Local development companies work closely with county councils, but they operate in a different manner, as acknowledged by the reports. The retention of their autonomy from councils or any State body in facilitating communities to articulate their needs is imperative. There is a vague statement to the effect that the role and functions assigned to SECs should reduce the need for State representation on the boards of a range of local development entities and-or allow the phasing out of certain structures. This appears to suggest that the Government or its civil servants want to retain local development entities to do the difficult work with communities, for example, the night work and the donkey work, while funding will go to local authorities or, to be clear, the local county managers.

The most devastating element of the proposals suggests that the bottom-up approach will be dismantled.

Volunteers will be disenfranchised, disempowered, disengaged, disillusioned and disgusted, and would most certainly walk. It will take some time for a strong and well-resourced local community and rural development sector to get going again but it will happen because Government will not stop the people on the ground from working to better themselves, their families and their communities. The approach seems to be that local government and the local authority are broken, so we must fix local development. If we kill the roots, the tree will die, and the roots of community development are the communities.

I salute all the people who work in local development in all the different schemes, whether rural social schemes or otherwise, and all the different community groups which organise people to work on the ground. They have served our communities very well. I hope that in his endeavours, the Minister will not break something which is working. He is trying to fiddle with this in the same way as he has done with the town councils. In the past the rural train network was dismantled and the tracks were taken up but people now see that was a mistake. People will look back on the Minister's record when he is in Europe and will remember what he did on the ground. If the Minister stayed away from this and left it alone, it would be fine. Unfortunately, he is the Minister and we have to let him do what he is going to do.

For a good while, Deputy Healy-Rae's father propped up all those policies he spoke about.

Deputy Hogan is the Minister now. He should not forget that.

I am glad Deputy Healy-Rae does not have responsibility now. Putting People First, the document I mentioned earlier, strengthens and refocuses the role of local government towards economic, social and community development locally. It is the Government's view that local authorities will have a central role in the oversight and planning of local and community development planning. I do not see the problem with that as the democratic input is important in every county, including County Kerry. I am sure Deputy Healy-Rae is happy that his brother is a councillor in Kerry Council County and will be able to be involved in the oversight and planning of the programmes to ensure they are focused and targeted in a way that-----

The Minister is very worried about us all of a sudden.

The alignment steering group recognised the importance of retaining the bottom-up approach, as do I. In spite of all Deputy Healy-Rae's protestations, there is no intention to remove that approach towards community development. If Deputy Healy-Rae looked at many of the community groups throughout the country, he would have to ask the question why there is such a divergence in administrative costs between the various groups. In some cases, the administration costs of some of our community development groups is 35% of all the funding going into them. That is not sustainable any longer. It should never have been the case. I want to see those particular costs devoted towards delivering front-line services for local people rather than building up a rather expensive bureaucracy. Substantial public funding is being spent on local and community development programmes. These programmes are not always sufficiently joined up to allow the most effective and efficient delivery of our services.

I assure Deputy Healy-Rae that rural development structures will continue and the community and voluntary sector will also continue to play a very important role in EU programmes, but they will be more aligned with local government in doing so and they will be more co-ordinated in their approach. The bottom-up approach, in spite of what Deputy Healy-Rae might say to the contrary, will continue under this approach.

They will be consumed by the local authorities.

Deputy Healy-Rae's brother will make sure they are not.

Crime Levels

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for allowing my colleague and me to raise this issue and I thank the Minister for being here to take it. In the past two months, in particular - the statistics will not yet show this - there has been a very serious increase in robberies and burglaries of houses, and I speak from my own experience in County Mayo. On this occasion, the practitioners are getting more brazen. At least four incidents have been brought to my attention in recent weeks. People were in their houses and the burglars either came in through the front and took stuff from the front of the house or through the back door when the residents were in the front of the house. As the Minister can imagine, this situation is causing grave concern throughout County Mayo.

There have also been a number of robberies of businesses. In one case, the robbery was the tipping point, although not the main reason, which forced the owner to give up. He could no longer carry on and, as a result, a viable business went bust. There has been an increase in robberies in recent weeks in all the towns throughout County Mayo. A number of empty houses along the N5, the main Mayo-Dublin road, where families were at work or were on holidays during mid-term, were broken into. It suggests a very prepared and organised group of people who were observing people's movements and people's houses. This is a matter of serious concern.

Local gardaí are doing their best but they do not have the resources to deal with this. Earlier in the year the Minister established Operation Fiacla as a Dublin and commuter belt response, but it needs to be expanded. We need something similar to the traffic corps where gardaí can respond very quickly to such situations because there is a trend which shows that some areas are being targeted over two or three days. A number of houses in an area are done over a number of days, so a group seems to be spending time in an area or else it is locally based.

I have spoken to local gardaí but their hands are tied in terms of resources. The Garda Commissioner will appear before the Joint Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality tomorrow and Deputy Niall Collins will raise the issue with him. There is a fear in communities as we come into the darker period of winter and people feel unprotected. We need to address this as a matter of urgency. Has the Garda Commissioner consulted the Minister or has the Commissioner brought it to his attention? I know from talking to colleagues from all parties that this is a problem throughout County Mayo, in particular in the past two months.

In the context of the budgetary discussions which the Minister is having, would it be possible to consider a scheme where people installing security facilities in their houses, whether an alarm or a lighting system, would get some sort of tax credit towards that installation? It would promote employment and a little sense of security in people's homes.

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for selecting this issue because it is topical and was on the front of today's Irish Independent as a result of yesterday's report on the Probation Service and recidivism. On a number of occasions, the Minister has quoted the CSO crime statistics in defence of some of the policies he is pursuing - for example, the closure of Garda stations and the resourcing of An Garda Síochána. That is fine but he has not quoted some of the statistics in substantiating his argument. For example, we have seen an increase nationally of 10.3% in burglaries over the past 12 months. We have seen an increase of 43% in thefts against the person and an increase of 93% in cash-in-transit robberies. The majority of those crimes are being committed in the greater Dublin area.

Unfortunately, behind every statistic is a story of a victim and a family. It is important we put it in context. Of the 28,000 burglaries which took place nationwide in the past 12 months, just over 11,000 of those took place in the greater Dublin area. We need to focus on that and hear from the Minister on yesterday's report on the Probation Service. We were told that in excess of one third of people assigned to the Probation Service by way of sentencing or repaying their debt to society, in particular in the Dublin area, re-offend while under the stewardship of the service. I think the Minister described that in his press statement yesterday as interesting. The victims of crime, in particular in the Dublin area, want to know what the Minister or, indeed, the Government has in mind when it comes to the redress of crimes. The victims must be centre stage.

The main issue people are bringing to our attention - there are many aspects of the resourcing of An Garda Síochána which we could debate at length - are the response times of an Garda Síochána. That is critical.

I refer to other organisations outside of An Garda Síochána and the joint policing committees. Yesterday, Dublin City Council launched a campaign to raise awareness that most burglaries in the Dublin area happen between the hours of 5 p.m. and 10 p.m.

Does the Minister feel a little usurped by that or is he happy that local authorities must now get involved to try to promote awareness for dealing with these issues? Will the Minister comment on yesterday's report, particularly the fact that a large number of people who are under the direction of the probation service are becoming serial re-offenders, especially in the Dublin area?

I thank the Deputies for raising these important matters. The latest official crime statistics from the Central Statistics Office show, despite what the Deputies say, that the incidence of most types of crime is falling. This reflects well on the work of An Garda Síochána. Nevertheless, the Garda Commissioner and I remain concerned about the incidence of burglary, which has shown an increase in recent times.

I therefore welcome the progress being made under Operation Fiacla, which is running for 12 months initially with effect from February 2012. The operation is the subject of regular monitoring and review by senior Garda management and is focused on identifying and targeting gangs involved in burglaries around the country so as to disrupt their activities and bring them before the courts. Deputy Calleary suggested that Operation Fiacla is focused on the Dublin area. That is not true; it is focused on the rest of the country. One of the difficulties we have is individual gangs burglarising in different part of the country by using our very good and sophisticated road network, allowing them to access areas that in previous years they would have little possibility of accessing or escaping from them.

Operation Fiacla is intelligence driven, and specific burglary initiatives have been implemented in each Garda region to target suspected offenders. In the Dublin area this is given effect through Operation Acer, with Operation Aimsir running in the western region. As of 19 October 2012, almost 2,500 persons have been arrested and over 1,400 persons have been charged as part of Operation Fiacla, reflecting the very substantial efforts being made to tackle this problem by the Garda. These operations are backed up by good community policing and crime prevention advice which An Garda Síochána is in a position to provide throughout the country. An excellent example of this is the recent launch of the "Home Safe Home" campaign initiated by An Garda Síochána in Dublin and supported by the Dublin city joint policing committee, JPC. This campaign advises homeowners on a range of simple but important home security measures. I commend and acknowledge this type of co-ordinated and collaborative effort being made by the Garda, the local authority and others on the JPC, working with the support of the local community. I am very appreciative of the efforts of all concerned in this important and timely campaign.

Similar supports are available throughout the country, with An Garda Síochána working closely with Community Alert, Neighbourhood Watch and other local groups to provide crime prevention advice and assistance. Only last week I visited the offices of Community Alert and Macra na Feirme in Clonmel and saw the very good work they do. I particularly welcome local authorities adding their voice through the joint policing committees and others to ensure that the general public provides the degree of home protection they must provide for themselves. All too frequently burglaries occur in locations where there are either no alarm systems or people have alarms but do not turn them on, or windows are left open and provide easy access to those on the prowl in search of houses to burgle.

With regard to the situation in Mayo, I am aware of reports of a number of recent burglaries and suggestions that these incidents appear to be linked. This is precisely the type of scenario which Operation Fiacla is designed to tackle and I have every confidence that Garda management is responding effectively. While the incidence of crime is generally lower in rural than in urban areas, I am conscious of the deep distress which burglary and similar crimes can cause to householders in rural areas and the broader impact it can have in terms of fear of crime in our communities.

I am confident that Garda efforts co-ordinated under Operation Fiacla are making the desired impact and this should be reflected in forthcoming crime statistics. I hope it will also be reflected in the Mayo area in dealing with the difficulties Deputy Calleary described. Ultimately, in dealing with these issues I rely on the operational decisions made by the Garda Commissioner. I believe we will discover in 12 months, when looking back on Operation Fiacla, that it has proved to be successful. Many of those who are currently charged are awaiting their appearance in court. The Deputy will understand I must be careful in what I say about that but I hope those appearances will result in convictions being obtained where appropriate and appropriate sentencing decisions being made.

The Government's commitment to supporting the Garda is underlined by my recent announcement of €3 million funding for new Garda vehicles. This will provide an additional 170 new vehicles which will greatly enhance Garda capacity to provide an effective policing service throughout the country. All of these vehicles should be in service by the end of January and a considerable portion of them should be in service by December. It is the Government's intention to ensure that front-line services are maintained at the highest level possible through the most efficient use of resources. The Commissioner has my full support in this regard and I have every confidence that he and every member of the Garda Síochána will continue to deliver an effective police service in both rural and urban areas.

When I have my further two minutes to speak I will respond specifically on the issue Deputy Collins raised regarding the report published yesterday by the Central Statistics Office.

I ask the Minister to engage with the Garda Commissioner on the situation in Mayo. The incidence has greatly spiked in the last few weeks. We are probably ahead of the figures.

Second, I draw the Minister's attention to the remarks by Judge McLoughlin in Castlebar District Court last week in which he pointed to what he perceived as a difficulty with sentencing. He observed that a defendant who was charged with three counts of burglary was due to appear subsequently in Swinford District Court on two further counts and in the previous weeks had been sentenced to 23 months in prison after pleading guilty to seven counts of burglary. The judge observed that the defendant "went on a crime spree" in such a short period to ensure that he could only receive the maximum of 24 months when all the cases came before the court in the same period of time. The judge put the court into recess and examined what sentence he could impose. He sentenced him to one month additional to the 23 months sentence which was imposed in Galway, and a ten month term to run concurrent with the 24 month sentence.

I am aware the Law Reform Commission is reviewing sentencing policy at present, but this is something on which the defendants and criminals appear to be very well versed. Ultimately, however, it is the person whose house has been burgled who must suffer the consequences. Again, I ask the Minister to engage with the Garda Commissioner about the situation in Mayo, which I believe is ahead of the figures. I welcome the allocation of cars. I called for that when I held the justice brief. I hope the Commissioner knows where to send them.

The Minister mentioned Operation Acer, which has had a degree of success in the Dublin area where it is being trialled. Is it intended to roll that out to the greater Dublin area and to the commuter belt? To date, approximately 200 people have been convicted and a further 380 are due to appear before the courts arising from that operation. It is important to convey the message to people living in the greater Dublin area and in the commuter belt that this operation will continue. Will the Minister address that? Can it be replicated in other larger cities such as Limerick, Cork and Galway, outside the areas where Operation Fiacla is currently under way? I referred earlier to response times, which is a critical issue in investigating crime. The Minister referred to the road networks. The road network being so enhanced affects the greater Dublin area because criminals are so mobile these days.

On the management of the Garda Síochána fleet, I accept that the Minister has allocated an extra €3 million which will purchase approximately 170 vehicles. However, that has been described to me as merely a sticking plaster by some quite senior members of the Garda. Does the Minister believe there is merit in having a five year capital budget framework for An Garda Síochána to allow for proper fleet management? We are in fire fighting mode in terms of managing the Garda fleet. Cars are involved in accidents and being written off and cars must be decommissioned when they reach 300,000 kilometres. The effectiveness and efficiency of the Garda are being diminished by the lack of adequate transport. There is merit in considering the introduction of a five year capital budget that is ring-fenced for the provision of vehicles. What are the Minister's views on that?

The Garda Síochána has approximately the same number of vehicles as it had at the height of the Celtic tiger in 2007. By the end of this year, we will have acquired more than 200 cars. Some 42 vehicles were acquired in the spring and 170 more have been purchased since. A considerable number of them will be commissioned and on the roads in December, with the remainder in January. I do not want to give the Deputies any advance news of budgetary matters but I assure them there will be a reasonably substantial sum available in 2013 for the acquisition of additional Garda vehicles, which I am relatively confident we will be able to purchase during the year. There is a perspective on this and it was not a once-off purchase. In the context of the financial legacy I inherited, and the difficulties we experienced, the reason we have €3 million for vehicles is efficiencies we effected during the year. My Department facilitated identifying that sum of money as being available and next year we will have a sum earmarked for purchases.

Operation Fiacla operates across the country while Operation Acer is focused on Dublin. Some 2,500 arrests were made under Operation Fiacla, with 1,400 charges brought. That accounts for the statistics to mid-October, and I presume that, by the end of this month, I will have new information.

Yesterday's report examined those who received an order in 2007. It related to those who were on probation simpliciter or who were the recipients of community service orders in 2007 and examined the extent to which they reoffended. Since 2007, a number of changes have been made, which I hope will show better results. One can look at these results in different ways. The Irish Independent looked at them in a particular way. For people disposed of, either put under supervision orders through the Probation Service or engaged in community service, the recidivism level was 37.2%. Considering the comparators of those imprisoned for the first time, the number who are recidivist over a period of two to four years is actually higher than that. One can look at the figures every which way. Unfortunately, when people are imprisoned or otherwise disposed of, there is no certainty they will not reoffend. This was the first time this type of research has been done. We need more information on recidivism from people who have been imprisoned.

The Minister is over time.

There was a high level of reoffending of those so disposed of who had committed burglaries. The higher category of recidivism was 47%, which meant 53% had not reoffended after that number of years. In the context of the number of people sent to prison or held in detention centres, including young people in the past who were in St. Patrick's institution, the level of reoffending was higher. It is not that these figures are something to celebrate, but they are indicative that when people are disposed of in alternative ways to imprisonment, we may reduce the level of recidivism to a degree.

Much more work needs to be done. The work reflects on those convicted in 2007, during the time when Deputies Calleary and Niall Collins and their colleagues were in the majority party in the House. I am not saying that as a criticism. It is important this work was done and we need to get our recidivism figures down further. Substantial work is being done in the Prison Service in the context of those sentenced to terms of imprisonment. Substantial work is being done by the Probation Service and I hope similar research is done in two or three years time, which may show a lower level of recidivism.

I want to say two more sentences. The case referred to by Deputy Dara Calleary is of interest. While I do not want to comment on an individual case, there are circumstances in which the District Court can decide not to hear a matter and to send it forward for trial in the Circuit Court, where a higher sentence may be appropriate. It is also a specific criminal offence to commit an offence while on bail. That can result in a separate prosecution to those that may have ensued for burglaries committed by someone when on bail for other offences. I do not know the circumstances surrounding the issue but, as a matter of principle, individuals on bail who commit offences should be prosecuted for having committed an offence on bail where prosecution is possible. We are looking at the bail laws and the additional reforms that can be introduced to ensure the public has greater protection when individuals are on bail pending charges being heard in the courts. It will ensure this type of offending does not continue to take place.

Home Help Service Provision

I thank the Ceann Comhairle for selecting this issue because Deputies routinely request Topical Issue debates. In the recent past, there has been considerable discussion about the provision of home care and home help. What constitutes home care and home help is very different in different parts of the country. What they have in common is that, in all instances, an elderly person or vulnerable adult is at the centre of the care provision. In 2011, the Law Reform Commission underlined the need for a legislative framework in home care provision. This arose in the aftermath of the investigation and report on Leas Cross, where vulnerable adults and elderly people in a private nursing home environment were subject to obvious abuse. The concern for vulnerable adults, elderly people, their families and home care providers arises in respect of standards, legislation, regulations, inspection, complaints mechanisms and associated penalties where there are obvious failures in the protection of vulnerable adults and old people.

Where would one find a person in a more vulnerable state than an old person at home, bed-ridden, unable to do anything, not exposed to any outside inspection and with no one passing by as someone in a nursing home would have? These people are totally dependent on the home care provider or the person coming in to provide a home care package. The vulnerability of the person can be exposed and exploited and there is an urgent need to ensure we are not just reacting to another investigation with another hidden camera, highlighting another element of abuse or worse, and dealing with the aftermath of someone found dead or seriously injured at home.

The programme for Government refers to this, and a Bill, which was a copy and paste exercise of what the Law Reform Commission proposed in its report, was brought before the House. In recent weeks, with public discourse on what home help is, how it is constituted, how people get medically assessed for it and its standards and assessment regime, it is urgently required not only to protect the elderly or vulnerable person but also for those who go into people's houses. I have a personal involvement in this. Are these people trained and qualified? Do they have the necessary competencies to deliver home care at the level the public health nurse or district nurse decides it is needed?

The Law Reform Commission report states that home care provision ranges from companionship to home care to complicated provision of home care, where a catheter bag needs to be changed, an incontinence pad needs to be administered or drugs need to be administered daily. There may be no family involvement. The State recognises that the best place for elderly people is in the home, if possible. Between now and 2041, the number of people over the age of 65 will double.

We also know that 95% of people over the age of 65 live at home. This is urgently needed and I impress its urgency upon the Minister. I know there is a legislative backlog and that many things have priority, but we had a referendum for one cohort of vulnerable people and we need to legislate for this group.

I thank the Deputy for raising this matter and apologise on behalf of my colleague, the Minister for Health, that he is not here this evening. He has a commitment that he has to keep and he asked me if I would respond to the Deputy.

Government policy is to support older people to live at home and in their communities for as long as possible. This is realised by the Health Service Executive through a range of community-based services such as mainstream home help and enhanced home care packages or by other supports such as meals-on-wheels and respite or day care. These services, often delivered in partnership with non-statutory agencies, are designed to be as flexible as possible to best meet the needs of individual recipients and their families.

Government for National Recovery 2011-2016 commits to developing and implementing national standards for home support services, which will be subject to inspection by the Health and Information Quality Authority, HIQA. New statutory regulation of this sector will have to take account of various issues, such as those raised in a recent report of the Law Reform Commission, entitled Legal Aspects of Professional Home Care. This, in turn, is a follow-up to its 2009 consultation paper, Legal Aspects of Carers.

Primary legislation and resources will be required for the introduction of a statutory regulation system for home care services. The question of possible changes to legislation, including regulation and inspection for home care services for older people, is under consideration. The Department is at present examining this matter in the overall context of the licensing of health care providers. Legislation is being prepared in this area, taking into account various recommendations of the Commission on Patient Safety and the Law Reform Commission. Various options are being considered, including the complex legal issues involved and the need to prioritise legislation across the social care area overall, including that relating to children and disabilities.

It is important to emphasise that statutory regulation or licensing is only one way of improving the safety and quality of services and that other measures have or are being taken to improve the standards of community service for older people delivered by, or on behalf of, the HSE. These are reflected in the HSE service plan 2012 and include a public procurement framework for home care services finalised earlier this year, with quality and screening requirements. In addition, various operational initiatives such as new national quality guidelines for home care support services and new national home help guidelines have been developed by the HSE. These various measures, taken together, have been designed to improve relevant aspects of HSE home care nationally, including non-statutory provision for care recipients under the auspices of the executive.

The Government has embarked on a major reform programme for the health system, the aim of which is to deliver a single-tier system where access is based on need, not income. A number of important steps will be achieved in a planned way, including regulation of the specific sectors I have outlined, and each of these will play a critical role in improving our health and personal social services overall.

I thank the Minister for his reply. I go back to what I said about the difference between home care and home help and the public and private provision of those services. In some instances, the man or woman who comes into an elderly person's house is paid about €9 per hour while the company that sends them in is paid up to €27 per hour. There is no standardisation across the board.

The Government, and the previous Government, were anxious to ensure this service be given out to a private provider in order that it would not be the State's problem. This is the State's problem, however, if we are providing the money for the service. Are the standards, assurances and quality being delivered to the people who need it? I recently saw a media report of a company dealing with vulnerable people in County Wicklow that is under investigation by the Garda. This is not the sort of thing we want to see happening in the future.

A fortnight ago, we had a referendum to enshrine rights for vulnerable children in the Constitution. Elderly people who are living alone are vulnerable adults. Some may be blind or deaf or have a learning difficulty. They do not have the luxury of having their point of view articulated in this House as often as they would like. This is critical, however. We cannot afford to wait until there is another Leas Cross, another hidden camera or, worse, someone is allowed to abuse his or her position so that a life is put in danger.

This is not just about protecting the service user. It is also about protecting the service provider, that is, the individual man or woman who is going into a house to administer care. The establishment of the new training agency, SOLAS, is an opportunity for the Department of Health to agree national standards in order that the service given to every single person, whether a child, a young vulnerable adult or an elderly person living alone, can be inspected by HIQA and the standard of care provided, whether publicly or privately, out of the State's purse is the same for all. This is something we should be trying to achieve.

On a personal level, I share the views expressed by the Deputy. There is a need to ensure individuals who are recipients of care at home are not placed in danger. There is a need to ensure the individuals providing that care are properly trained and adequately regulated. There must be a standardisation of the care provided, a uniform approach and proper regulatory oversight. I am willing to draw to the Minister's attention the comments made by the Deputy. I hope the reforms the Minister envisages and is working on can be put in place as soon as possible to address the many concerns the Deputy, quite properly, expresses.

National Vetting Bureau (Children and Vulnerable Persons) Bill 2012: Order for Report Stage ^

I move: "That Report Stage be taken now."

Question put and agreed to.

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